With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to!

I understand what you're saying.
When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the 
mess that is JSP and Servlets.
That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8).
Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc..
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html

If you look at this project structure: 
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png
That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm for 
instance, but without the Command pattern.
There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation.

And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close to 
Flex' MXML:
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html

So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash?
Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language?


I hear ya !
I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm guessing) 
plugins will be a thing of the past.
Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a matter of: "we 
don't have a choice."

I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out HTML/JS web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And I'm sure I'm not the only one :)

The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to and 
not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML.
That'd be my wish for 2012 :)

regards,
Muzak



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Thanks Muzak,
Very interesting links!

However I said "easily" :-)
With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to!

In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the new 
devices.

So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash?
Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language?

So right now, I stay with Flash.

Happy new year to everyone.


Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto:
Sorry for the late reply..

With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps 
and ios apps?

Yup, except for desktop.

Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps.
Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps  with GWT yet.

Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need.

Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007.
http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html
The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has changed 
(improved) since then.

And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of 
development.
Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/
GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/
Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/
etc..

As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :)

regards,
Muzak




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