[Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that? -- James

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :) John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Kerry Thompson
Jason Merrill wrote: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Merrill, Jason
Jason Merrill wrote: A new version of AS3 will be nice, Jason Merrill did NOT write that, that was JAMES Merrill... easy mistake :) just wanted to clarify... Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Ima Newsletta
At last, Adobe showed us that is alive. Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto: When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :) John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Feb 22, 2012,

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Kerry Thompson
Jason Merrill wrote: Jason Merrill did NOT write that, that was JAMES Merrill... easy mistake :) just wanted to clarify... So he did. Sorry about that. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :) What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things that Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency Flash is being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool, animated website we do

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Merrill, Jason
Haha, no worries - when I first glanced at his post, I first thought, Did I write that? Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Kerry Thompson
James Merrill wrote: Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4? It's unfortunate that it will never happen. There was an ECMAScript 4 committee, but they disbanded 3-4 years ago. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Well as an example, I'm building 50 touchscreen applications that I then can port over to iPad and Xoom with minimal changes. eLearning apps, software simulation and much more. But then again, I don't build websites for the most part, I build full blown applications. I have a strong need for

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Creighton, Gerry
Except that you need a certain level of browser to handle HTML5. That's the bummer, it'll Take some time to get more people on board. -Gerry On 2/22/12 2:24 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote: When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :) What exactly are you

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Especially corporate America where they bulk still use IE 6 and their machines are locked down. THANKS IT! :) John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Creighton, Gerry wrote: Except

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
I'm going to play devils advocate here for a second. The whole browser compatibility aspect of HTML is diminishing, modern browsers are constantly updated without having to re-download them. In a couple of years, it won't be a problem. Another major concern of mine was seeing this site:

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Merrill, Jason
Have you tried building an interactive 3D environment in Javascript/HTML5? There is 3D capability out there, but most of the examples I have seen have been ports from C++ code. Just because there is a trend towards something, and it's possible to do something with a new tech, doesn't make it

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Matt S.
Fwiw, that site is actually a Flash/HTML5 hybrid, mostly HTML5, with Flash apparently handling the weak spots, eg video, audio etc. But yeah, even just judging the HTML-only elements that's a beautiful site. .m On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote: Another

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Henrik Andersson
James Merrill skriver: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Henrik Andersson
Henrik Andersson skriver: James Merrill skriver: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage being hardcore gaming. How

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Matt S.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.netwrote: If you ask me, Adobe needs to get the animation part back on track before the competition runs past them. Everything Adobe is doing suggests that they think that particular horse has already kicked the gate down and

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Ben Sand
We are building a full screen game with a novel interface and we need the power of Flash. My primary concern is not seeing any mention of Alchemy's successor on the Roadmap as we are hanging out for it's features. On 23 February 2012 05:50, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
I haven't personally tried WebGL. I have seen tests though that show it's faster than Flash. However, there aren't any major frameworks like we have for Flash Stage3D. I am sure that will change in time though. I don't know if it's a safe bet that Flash will win out over HTML5 with 3D. In regards

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Henrik Andersson
Matt S. skriver: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.netwrote: If you ask me, Adobe needs to get the animation part back on track before the competition runs past them. Everything Adobe is doing suggests that they think that particular horse has already

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Because they didn't start it. They just bought it. Flash is not personal to them, it's just a number, that is loosing. IMO Business is business, personal is personal. If it don't make dollars then it don't make sense!! Right!?! If I had anything to say about the future of flash, it would be,

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Henrik Andersson
Karl DeSaulniers skriver: If I had anything to say about the future of flash, it would be, sell it back to Macromedia if you can't fill the position. Adobe didn't buy Flash. They bought Macromedia. ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Ok, then sell it/give it back to the guys who started Macromedia. Thanks for the clarification though. Best, Karl On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Henrik Andersson wrote: Karl DeSaulniers skriver: If I had anything to say about the future of flash, it would be, sell it back to Macromedia if

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Henrik Andersson
Karl DeSaulniers skriver: Ok, then sell it/give it back to the guys who started Macromedia. It seems like they already have positions in the top Adobe management. http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidwadhwani.html

[Flashcoders] Robert McLaughlin/BRAD/Bombardier is out of the office.

2012-02-22 Thread robert . mclaughlin
I will be out of the office starting 02/22/2012 and will not return until 02/27/2012. Please contact andrew.luck...@aero.bombardier.com (514) 344-6621 x4-6606 for any pressing issues. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Oh! Then were doomed... My basic point is those guys had a great idea and it shouldn't die like this. If flash could rise up like it did back then, I believe it could rise again. But maybe it is time, since what it rose above is now catching up. Not there yet, but close second at least. (Or