Re: [Flashcoders] Found an AS3 RegExp Bug.
Thank you benny. I can see how this works, but why does my pattern(/[^
\\]'/) does not?
Isaac Rivera
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On Jun 9, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Benny wrote:
var code:String = "alert('foo');";
code = code.replace(/'/g,"\\'");
trace(code);
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Re: [Flashcoders] Found an AS3 RegExp Bug.
Let me correct a paste mistake there:
THE FOLLOWING CODE:
var pattern:RegExp = /[^\\]'/;
var code:String = "alert('foo');";
code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'");
code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'");
traces: "alert\'fo\');"
Should it not trace: "alert(\'foo\');" instead?
Isaac Rivera
Technology Director :: Experience Design Group
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On Jun 9, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Isaac Rivera wrote:
The following code:
var pattern:RegExp = /[^\\]'/;
var code:String = "alert(\'foo\');";
code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'");
code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'");
traces "alert\'fo\');" instead of "alert(\'foo\');"
Isaac Rivera
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[Flashcoders] Found an AS3 RegExp Bug.
The following code: var pattern:RegExp = /[^\\]'/; var code:String = "alert(\'foo\');"; code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'"); code = code.replace(pattern, "\\'"); traces "alert\'fo\');" instead of "alert(\'foo\');" Isaac Rivera Technology Director :: Experience Design Group America Online :: New York City p 212 652-6308 :: c 347 342-2195 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Is AS2Unit a joke?
never mind...
adding a methodName:String arg to the constructor solved the issues.
Isaac
On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Isaac Rivera wrote:
I have not been able to get AS2Unit to report anything useful other
than the number of tests. It always reports "OK" no matter how
impossible or bogus my test is. It never finds anything wrong or
fails.
Case in point are the simple Name class below and its companion
tester (NameTester) class. Notice the last method in the tester
(testTestFails) is designed to fail.
Drop a AS2Unit instance on the stage, add the following code to the
first frame:
import NameTester;
var classes:Array = [NameTester];
and run...
I get:
...
Time: 0.001 seconds
OK (3 tests)
!!!
Now, perhaps I am not doing things right do to the fact that there
is NO DOCUMENTATION for AS2Unit that I could find other than the
article on FlashMagazine in which the methods to use for assertions
are enumerated... without argument signatures!!!
Anyone know how to get this "suite" to work, is it reliable?
Isaac
Class to test:
class Name {
private var firstName:String;
private var lastName:String;
private var middleInitial:String;
public function Name(firstName:String, middleInitial:String,
lastName:String) {
this.firstName = firstName;
this.lastName = lastName;
if(middleInitial == null) middleInitial = "";
if(middleInitial.length > 1) middleInitial =
middleInitial.substring(0, 1);
if(middleInitial.length == 1) this.middleInitial = middleInitial
+ ".";
else this.middleInitial = "";
}
public function getFirstName():String {
return this.firstName;
}
public function getLastName():String {
return this.lastName;
}
public function getMiddleInitial():String {
return this.middleInitial;
}
public function hasMiddleInitial():Boolean {
return this.middleInitial.length == 2;
}
public function equals(other:Object):Boolean {
if(other == null) return false;
if(!(other instanceof Name)) return false;
var that:Name = Name(other);
if(this.getFullName() == that.getFullName()) return true;
return false;
}
public function getFullName():String {
return this.firstName + ((this.middleInitial.length == 2) ? (" "
+ this.middleInitial + " ") : " ");
}
public function toString():String {
return getFullName();
}
}
Tester Class:
import Name;
import as2unit.framework.TestCase
class NameTester extends TestCase {
private static var FIRSTNAME:String = "Isaac";
private static var MIDDLEINITIAL:String = "";
private static var LASTNAME:String = "Rivera";
private static var CONTROLNAME:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME,
MIDDLEINITIAL, LASTNAME);
public function NameTester() {}
public function testGettersReturnCorrectValues():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME);
assertNotNull(testName.getFirstName());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getFirstName());
assertNotNull(testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getMiddleInitial());
assertNotNull(testName.getLastName());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getLastName());
assertEquals(FIRSTNAME, testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals(MIDDLEINITIAL, testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertEquals(LASTNAME, testName.getLastName());
assertFalse(testName.hasMiddleInitial());
}
public function testEqualsWorksCorrectly():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME);
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getFirstName(),
testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getMiddleInitial(),
testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getLastName(), testName.getLastName());
assertTrue(testName.equals(CONTROLNAME));
}
public function testTestFails():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertEquals("Carlos", testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals("Vi
[Flashcoders] Is AS2Unit a joke?
I have not been able to get AS2Unit to report anything useful other
than the number of tests. It always reports "OK" no matter how
impossible or bogus my test is. It never finds anything wrong or fails.
Case in point are the simple Name class below and its companion
tester (NameTester) class. Notice the last method in the tester
(testTestFails) is designed to fail.
Drop a AS2Unit instance on the stage, add the following code to the
first frame:
import NameTester;
var classes:Array = [NameTester];
and run...
I get:
...
Time: 0.001 seconds
OK (3 tests)
!!!
Now, perhaps I am not doing things right do to the fact that there is
NO DOCUMENTATION for AS2Unit that I could find other than the article
on FlashMagazine in which the methods to use for assertions are
enumerated... without argument signatures!!!
Anyone know how to get this "suite" to work, is it reliable?
Isaac
Class to test:
class Name {
private var firstName:String;
private var lastName:String;
private var middleInitial:String;
public function Name(firstName:String, middleInitial:String,
lastName:String) {
this.firstName = firstName;
this.lastName = lastName;
if(middleInitial == null) middleInitial = "";
if(middleInitial.length > 1) middleInitial = middleInitial.substring
(0, 1);
if(middleInitial.length == 1) this.middleInitial = middleInitial +
".";
else this.middleInitial = "";
}
public function getFirstName():String {
return this.firstName;
}
public function getLastName():String {
return this.lastName;
}
public function getMiddleInitial():String {
return this.middleInitial;
}
public function hasMiddleInitial():Boolean {
return this.middleInitial.length == 2;
}
public function equals(other:Object):Boolean {
if(other == null) return false;
if(!(other instanceof Name)) return false;
var that:Name = Name(other);
if(this.getFullName() == that.getFullName()) return true;
return false;
}
public function getFullName():String {
return this.firstName + ((this.middleInitial.length == 2) ? (" " +
this.middleInitial + " ") : " ");
}
public function toString():String {
return getFullName();
}
}
Tester Class:
import Name;
import as2unit.framework.TestCase
class NameTester extends TestCase {
private static var FIRSTNAME:String = "Isaac";
private static var MIDDLEINITIAL:String = "";
private static var LASTNAME:String = "Rivera";
private static var CONTROLNAME:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME,
MIDDLEINITIAL, LASTNAME);
public function NameTester() {}
public function testGettersReturnCorrectValues():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME);
assertNotNull(testName.getFirstName());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getFirstName());
assertNotNull(testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getMiddleInitial());
assertNotNull(testName.getLastName());
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME.getLastName());
assertEquals(FIRSTNAME, testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals(MIDDLEINITIAL, testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertEquals(LASTNAME, testName.getLastName());
assertFalse(testName.hasMiddleInitial());
}
public function testEqualsWorksCorrectly():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertNotNull(CONTROLNAME);
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getFirstName(),
testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getMiddleInitial(),
testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertEquals(CONTROLNAME.getLastName(), testName.getLastName());
assertTrue(testName.equals(CONTROLNAME));
}
public function testTestFails():Void {
var testName:Name = new Name(FIRSTNAME, MIDDLEINITIAL,
LASTNAME);
assertNotNull(testName);
assertEquals("Carlos", testName.getFirstName());
assertEquals("Vizcarondo", testName.getMiddleInitial());
assertEquals("M.", testName.getLastName());
assertTrue(testName.equals(new Object()));
}
}
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[Flashcoders] ScrollPane wont load contentPath ?
Anyone experienced ScrollPane Denial Of Service Attack? Two movies. In one in both I post MM's example. In one it works, in the second one nada. The second one is the project Fla in interested in working with of course. this.createClassObject(mx.containers.ScrollPane, "my_sp", 10); my_sp.setSize(320, 240); my_sp.contentPath = "http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/images/ image1.jpg"; The ScrollPane component is in the library. It shows on the stage, but no content. trace(this.my_sp); // _level0.my_sp trace(this.my_sp.content); // undefined trace(this.my_sp.contentPath); // http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/ images/image1.jpg Any insights? Isaac Rivera ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] File Exists - a better way?
Alright...
I have a minute now...
This may be an issue of semantics, but if what we want to know is
whether the file exists or not on an HTTP connection, then the only
way is to wait for the success boolean. HTTP servers do respond when
a requested resource is not available. This is the classic 404 HTTP
status. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing if the response
coming back from the server is the requested resource or an Error
type HTTP response until the response is downloaded and we can either
see the HTTP response headers (flash 8) or test the success boolean.
The only other possible condition is whether the resource requested,
existing or not, is available. By this I mean whether the connection
to the server was achieved and the request is processed in
"reasonable" time. This is where a time out comes in. I think time
out subjectivity can be minimized by testing for the first few bytes,
not whether the full response happens or not. There is a huge
difference if we give 10 seconds to get a full response to a 50K file
or the same 10 seconds to just test the first few bytes of the same
file.
In other words... if in 10 seconds you have not loaded a single byte,
then forget it, the response is either not coming or too slow. On the
other hand, if you did get a single byte on those 10 seconds, then
you are going to have to wait for the full response to find out
whether that response indicates that the resource exists or not.
Again, to that effect:
// code --
function fileExists() {}
function fileDoesNotExist() {}
var timeout:Number = 1; // 10 seconds...
var app:MovieClip = this;
var lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
clearInterval(app.interval);
if (!success) {
app.fileDoesNotExist();
} else {
app.fileExists();
}
};
var startTime:Number = getTimer() + timeout;
lv.load(url);
var interval:Number = setInterval(function () {
var loaded:Number = app.lv.getBytesLoaded();
if (loaded == 0 && getTimer() >= app.startTime) {
app.lv.onLoad = null;
delete app.lv;
clearInterval(app.interval);
app.fileDoesNotExist();
} else if(loaded > 0) {
clearInterval(app.interval);
}
}, 25);
// code --
This essentially tests whether a there has been no response in the
given timeout. If there hasnt it clears out. If on the other hand,
there has, it waits for the load to determine whether the file exists
or not.
I think only a simple server side proxy script, or perhaps even an
AJAX script, could bypass the hassle of waiting for the full response.
On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:53 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
Bart,
Firstly, I'm not sure why that's a reply to my posting - and
secondly, why would you want to do that..?
The original poster asked if there was a way of checking whether a
file exists sooner than waiting for the whole file to load. Your
solution loads the whole file via LoadVars - which would take the same
amount of time as loading it normally. My solution is a quick call to
a webserver and a few bytes worth of response - much quicker than
(say) loading a 250Kb file...
Ian
On 3/18/06, Bart Wttewaall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ian: "There's no Flash native hack as far as I know."
You can check (and cache while you're at it) any file by using
LoadVars:
var file:String = "anyFileType.exe";
var fileExists:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
fileExists.onLoad = mx.utils.Delegate.create(this, doCheck);
fileExists.load(file);
function doCheck(success:Boolean) {
if (success) trace("File "+file+" exists.");
else trace("File "+file+" does not exist.");
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] File Exists - a better way?
I backtracked on this thread...
I guess the questions are:
1) what are you trying to load?
2) what onLoad(success:Boolean) are you using?
Are you using the XML or LoadVars?
Assuming you are using the LoadVars, a more reasonable "timeout"
approach would be something like:
// code --
function fileExists() {}
function fileDoesNotExist() {}
var timeout:Number = 1; // 10 seconds...
var app:MovieClip = this;
var lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
clearInterval(app.interval);
if (!success) {
app.fileDoesNotExist();
} else {
app.fileExists();
}
};
var startTime:Number = getTimer() + timeout;
lv.load(url);
var interval:Number = setInterval(function () {
var total:Number = app.lv.getBytesTotal();
if (total > 4) {
clearInterval(app.interval);
app.fileExists();
} else {
if (getTimer() >= app.startTime) {
clearInterval(app.interval);
app.fileDoesNotExist();
}
}
}, 25);
// code --
On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Yotam Laufer wrote:
[Theres no "reasonable" amount of time on networked connections of
unknown hardware specs...]
And yet timeout times are set somehow... I think it's a subjective
decision.
I wouldn't do it like this, but if someone has to?
Yotam.
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Re: [Flashcoders] File Exists - a better way?
Theres no "reasonable" amount of time on networked connections of unknown hardware specs... Have you looked into onData instead? I believe it will allow you to know if the file exists bases on the first packet of the response. Isaac Rivera Senior Flash Developer Audience Programming, America Online On Mar 17, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Yotam Laufer wrote: If onload fires immediately with success==false then you know that there's no file, so why don't you wait for a reasonable interval and then if it's not fired than assume the file exists. not the best of solutions but should work. Yotam ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] updating the ide-players
You are assuming the player is updated and the IDE is miss-reporting the version. How do you come to this conclusion? Assuming the players are the same inside and outside the IDE, why do they report the correct version when run outside the IDE (i.e. clicking on a swf on the desktop and running a projector)? Since the property strings "8,0,24,0" and "8,0,22,0" are probably coming from the same sources no matter where you run the players from (unless Adobe hard-codes in the IDE the version of the player it releases the IDE with), my assumption is that there is a player not updated somewhere in the resources of the IDE. This is my concern more than the string itself. Isaac On Mar 16, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Michael Stuhr wrote: Fumio Nonaka schrieb: Thank you for your comments, micha and Isaac. I ran the uninstaller before installed the players. And all the players in the players folder in Flash 8 seem to be updated to 8.0r24. But only in the Test Movie, [List variables], getVersion() and System.capabilities.version return 8,0,22,0. I got the same result in Flash 8/Winsows XP (SP1). _ well if you check the file's themselves, and they say .24 i guess they're ok. it's annoying - even dangerous - that the ide states an older version, but i think we can live with that. btw: i suppose anyone who has some time left, to check their versioncheckers and update them so users are warned when having an older version. what do you guys think ? micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] updating the ide-players
That has nothing to do with this issue. The uninstaller removes the internet player, not the stand alone players. Running the uninstaller and then checking for the stand- alones confirms it. However, just to prove myself wrong and solve the issue. I did. Then re-installed. In any case, the stand alones and the internet plug in are all updated. Getting info on them confrims that they are version 8.0 r24. Running them outside the authoring environment also shows the correct version. BUT ON THE FLASH AUTHORING ENVIRONMENT trace(getVersion()) // 8,0,22,0 !!! Nothing has changed except now I wasted another 5 minutes on updating the players in vain! Why cant Adobe just provide a bug-free installer? I mean, they have been making Apple software for a long time. Isaac On Mar 16, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Michael Stuhr wrote: Fumio Nonaka schrieb: I installed the players on Flash 8/Mac OS X. While the plug-ins and the standalone players seem to be updated, getVersion() in the test movie returns 8,0,22,0, which is not new version of 8.0r24. Could any Mac users successfully update the Test Movie Player? _ have you uninstalled all players ? micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] More Player update problems...
Ok, not only I cant get the player in the authoring environment to update (it continues to trace "8,0,22,0"), but after replacing the projector players included in the macromedia downloads for mac: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/8/ sa_flashplayer_8_all_release.hqx and http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/8/ sa_flashplayer_8_all_debug.hqx When I export a Mac projector, the icon of the publised file is black and white, super pixelated and unrecognizable... ADOBE: INCLUDE INSTRUCTIONS ON YOUR UPDATE DOWNLOADS OR THE DOWNLOADS PAGE!!! There are a .rscr and a .data files in the downloads, but no hint as to where to place these. There are no originals of those to replace in the usual player paths and spotlight does not return an such file on the system. THIS IS FRUSTRATING. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME UPDATING A STUPID PLAYER. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Updating the authoring player.
Yesterday I got an ran the stand-alone updater for Mac. All 3 players
inside Macromedia Flash 8 folder have been updated. These are:
* /Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/SAFlashPlayer
* /Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/Debug/SAFlashPlayer
* Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/Release/SAFlashPlayer
Getting info on these shows version 8.0 r24. However, in authoring
environment:
trace(">> player version: " + getVersion());
produces: ">> player version: MAC 8,0,22,0" !!!
Is this an updated player error (i.e. someone forgot to change a
string and it reports incorrectly) or is there a player somewhere
beyond the scope of Spotlight that needs updating as well?
Isaac Rivera
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[Flashcoders] Authoring Test player version update?
Yesterday I got an ran the stand-alone updater for Mac. All 3 players
inside Macromedia Flash 8 folder have been updated. These are:
* /Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/SAFlashPlayer
* /Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/Debug/SAFlashPlayer
* Applications/Macromedia Flash 8/Players/Release/SAFlashPlayer
Getting info on these shows version 8.0 r24. However, in authoring
environment:
trace(">> player version: " + getVersion());
produces: ">> player version: MAC 8,0,22,0" !!!
Is this an updated player error (i.e. someone forgot to change a
string and it reports incorrectly) or is there a player somewhere
beyond the scope of Spotlight that needs updating as well?
Isaac Rivera
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[Flashcoders] clicking through an iframe on mozilla-based browsers ?
I happen to be trying to make this work for a flash movie behind the transparent iframe, but it could be anything interactive behind the iframe the problem is the same. On mozilla based browsers, the iframe prevents a click through it to whaever is behind, not so on IE/PC where the interactive content behind the iframe is accessible to the mouse. This seems to be true for Safari and Firefox for mac and pc. Any suggestions? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] When singletons go bad
I do not understand your implementation of this pattern.
Classically, in single-threaded environments like the flash player,
Singleton is implemented as below (using your nomenclature):
class MyManager {
private static _myManager: MyManager = null;
public static function getInstance(): MyManager {
if(_myManager == null) {
_myManager = new MyManager();
}
return _myManager;
}
private function MyManager() {
// constructor stuff here...
}
}
This works. I use it regularly.
The strange bit in your code is:
if(_myManager==null){
_myManager=this;
}
Since _myManager is a PRIVATE and STATIC property set JUST BEFORE
calling the constructor the FIRST TIME, why should the constructor
attempt to set it? Specially when it does so as an instance property
(ie. Not declaring the Class scope first as in:
MyManager._myManager = this;
What is the advantage of this block?
izk
On Feb 20, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Manuel Saint-Victor wrote:
Jesse,
Here is the getInstance that I am using
private function MyManager() {
// constructor
if(_myManager==null){
_myManager=this;
}
init();
}
public static function getInstance() : MyManager{
if(_myManager==null){
_myManager=new MyManager();
}
return _myManager;
}
I switched the name of the class a bit but everything else is
unchanged in
these two methods.
Mani
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
But we CAN see how it has so far gone with .NET. No official port for Mac. And that has been out for several years. Avalon will probably not be implemented for Mac at all. Nor other platforms (OSes) which means it will not be a realistic platform for web, as opposed to Flash... or Java. Isaac On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Weyert de Boer wrote: Yes, but it's not sure how the Avalon stuff will be implementated for the MacOSX. It's only known it will be implementated for Avalon. If I recall directrly it's not /even/ known which parts of Avalon _will_ be supported under MacOSX. Oh well, this is so 2006 ;-) No need to talk about this any further -- we just don't know it yet. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
I was answering a specific statement. Read Ryanm's entry, I believe it was quoted in my response. It stated that all platforms with IE7 would be able to consume Avalon web apps. Apparently IE7 will carry the .NET runtime as part of the application. There is no IE7 for Mac. Isaac On Oct 9, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Weyert de Boer wrote: You can't yet know how Microsoft will implementate Avalon for MacOSX :-) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
Microsoft officially abandoned IE development for the Mac with version 5.0.3, so Avalon apps will not be "consumable" from a mac. You PC developers need to be up to date on your own news. Isaac On Oct 8, 2005, at 7:48 PM, ryanm wrote: Yes, .NET web applications running on MS can be consumed from any platform, But I believe the point he was making was regarding Avalon apps. Isn't Avalon for developing desktop apps? That is the point I was talking about. Apps for Avalon may be delivered as desktop apps or as web apps, through IE7. Avalon apps may be delivered to any platform that has IE7 and the runtime, which should be available for Win, OSX, and probably some flavors of linux. So, no, it's not just for desktop apps, and not just for Windows. In fact, according to their marketing materials, it doesn't even have to be served from IIS. ryanm ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
I would say all too common... when it comes to MS... On Oct 8, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Weyert de Boer wrote: :-) Always possible. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
I know that MS has stated that they would port .NET to ALL platforms. Let's see. Until there is an official, up to date, fully capable, Darwin port, there is an even better alternative than mono... JVM can be developed and deployed everywhere with community-approved products. Isaac On Oct 8, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Weyert de Boer wrote: Microsoft is planning to make a runtime available for MacOSX. That's what I read somewhere, though. The .NET runtime (only windows and freebsd) is not available for MacOSX but you can use the opensource alternative Mono (go-mono.com) and use that it. It works like charm even while its not feature complete. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
Yes, .NET web applications running on MS can be consumed from any platform, But I believe the point he was making was regarding Avalon apps. Isn't Avalon for developing desktop apps? That is the point I was talking about. Isaac On Oct 8, 2005, at 1:38 PM, ryanm wrote: I fail to see the relationship between the ".NET" part of the statement and the possibility of "cross-platform" part. .NET apps can be *consumed* from any platform. ryanm ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
Just to clarify, Vista is the new operating system, the stuff MS is doing is the Avalon framework which is edited using the Sparkle toolset/ide. However, Avalon is fully implemented in .NET so it is *possible*, though my guess is unlikely, to be cross-platform. I fail to see the relationship between the ".NET" part of the statement and the possibility of "cross-platform" part. Did I wake up in a different universe this morning? Has .NET been ported to anything not Microsoft? Are there known efforts other than a vague promise by MS? In my opinion as Java programmer, J programmers being tempted by .NET are missing the real point of Java. It would be like programming flash apps that make use of those few features available only on IE for PC--the whole point, unlike DTML for instance, is cross-everything in a medium (the webb) that is inherently diverse. In one technology, and a ubiquitous one, you can deliver all media and content, all wrapped up in a small and powerful little package, regardless of the diversity out there. But perhaps you meant, "cross-os" as in all the windoze flavors and versions. If I was a windoze user who makes windoze apps only for windoze desktops and servers, I would definitely be using C# and .NET, but then again... Isaac Rivera Although, MS has actually come up with quite a compelling tool. You basically get a flash-like tool with timelines and graphics (plus 3D), but with the entire power of the .NET platform. I have been a long-time Java fan, but with direction of .NET, I have been seriously considering making the switch. (And of course keeping Flash for the web stuff :) ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Kaptein Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:40 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 Reading this thread I am curious to know how MM sees the up and coming Microsoft Vista-platform. My feeling is that MS is basically -- again -- hooking up in the Rich Internet Applications area (as previously tried & done with their DHTML implementation, DataBinding and ActiveX controls). Though -- again -- Vista very likely only works (properly) on the MS Platform, they do introduce some cool 3D-like options to build GUI's and the performance seems to be OK. Peter == Peter Kaptein Instant Interfaces (www.instantinterfaces.nl) | MediaRijk (www.mediarijk.nl) Senior Technical Consultant 06 284 310 14 - Original Message - From: "Muzak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 There's no Flash 8.5 IDE. There's no upgrade to Flash 8. Flash 9 will support AS3.0 (alpha released in Spring 2006) Muzak - Original Message - From: "Mike Mountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 Mike Just to clarify. There is no update for Flash Authoring planned. There will be an early alpha of the next full version of authoring that includes ActionScript 3 support. This will be available in the spring. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great features and it's good that the 'flash platform' is moving forward. Reading between the lines - we'll have to pay for the 8.5 IDE, or are you taling about an alpha of the flash 9 IDE? - If it's 8.5 then great, like I'm going to be able to convince my manager I need to upgrade everyone in my team again. Adobe did the same with CS and CS2. Looking forward to Flash 8.75 and Flash 8.9 What was the reasoning behind not holding off the release and putting this in 8, or waiting and pushing it in 9? Should people who haven't yet upgraded to 8 hold off for the 8.5 upgrade? Will you still operate the same upgrade from any version policy? I need to carefully plan my software budget and you guys aren't helping. Cheers Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0
Just to clarify, Vista is the new operating system, the stuff MS is doing is the Avalon framework which is edited using the Sparkle toolset/ide. However, Avalon is fully implemented in .NET so it is *possible*, though my guess is unlikely, to be cross-platform. I fail to see the relationship between the ".NET" part of the statement and the possibility of "cross-platform" part. Did I wake up in a different universe this morning? Has .NET been ported to anything not Microsoft? Are there known efforts other than a vague promise by MS? In my opinion as Java programmer, J programmers being tempted by .NET are missing the real point of Java. It would be like programming flash apps that make use of those few features available only on IE for PC. But perhaps you meant, "cross-os" as in all the windoze flavors and versions. If I was a windoze user who makes windoze apps only for windoze desktops and servers, I would definitely be using C# and .NET, but then again... Isaac Rivera Although, MS has actually come up with quite a compelling tool. You basically get a flash-like tool with timelines and graphics (plus 3D), but with the entire power of the .NET platform. I have been a long-time Java fan, but with direction of .NET, I have been seriously considering making the switch. (And of course keeping Flash for the web stuff :) ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Kaptein Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:40 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 Reading this thread I am curious to know how MM sees the up and coming Microsoft Vista-platform. My feeling is that MS is basically -- again -- hooking up in the Rich Internet Applications area (as previously tried & done with their DHTML implementation, DataBinding and ActiveX controls). Though -- again -- Vista very likely only works (properly) on the MS Platform, they do introduce some cool 3D-like options to build GUI's and the performance seems to be OK. Peter == Peter Kaptein Instant Interfaces (www.instantinterfaces.nl) | MediaRijk (www.mediarijk.nl) Senior Technical Consultant 06 284 310 14 - Original Message - From: "Muzak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 There's no Flash 8.5 IDE. There's no upgrade to Flash 8. Flash 9 will support AS3.0 (alpha released in Spring 2006) Muzak - Original Message - From: "Mike Mountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash player 8.5 and ActionScript 3.0 Mike Just to clarify. There is no update for Flash Authoring planned. There will be an early alpha of the next full version of authoring that includes ActionScript 3 support. This will be available in the spring. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great features and it's good that the 'flash platform' is moving forward. Reading between the lines - we'll have to pay for the 8.5 IDE, or are you taling about an alpha of the flash 9 IDE? - If it's 8.5 then great, like I'm going to be able to convince my manager I need to upgrade everyone in my team again. Adobe did the same with CS and CS2. Looking forward to Flash 8.75 and Flash 8.9 What was the reasoning behind not holding off the release and putting this in 8, or waiting and pushing it in 9? Should people who haven't yet upgraded to 8 hold off for the 8.5 upgrade? Will you still operate the same upgrade from any version policy? I need to carefully plan my software budget and you guys aren't helping. Cheers Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Scroll pane first-click bug?
That might be true, but ScrollPane worked fine for me before and now it has at least 3 related bugs that are notorious and annoying. What did I do to get them? I reexported an application as version 7 in Flash 8! On Oct 6, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Michael Stuhr wrote: Isaac Rivera schrieb: A little further investigation: the mx.containers package in Flash 8 is not identical to the mx.containers package of Flash MX 2004 Pro. There are a couple of subtle differences in the ScrollPane.as classes for instance. These even include clear AS errors like moving a super() call from the top of the method (where it should be) to the bottom of the method! In any case these subtle changes impact enough exporting MX2004 applications that use ScrollPane in Flash 8 as version 7 that serious bugs are introduced. Not being able to use the arrow keys or the scroll buttons to go all the way to the bottom of the component is one. No scrolling of the contents of the ScrollPane when a single click under the scroll bar is executed is another. Backing up the ScrollPane.as and copying the one from Flash MX 2004 Pro over is enough to fix these. Those packages should be identical, if the product claims to be backward compatible. wow, that is of much help for bugtracking. but if i understood this coorect, MM changes some subtle things, so this might erase some bugs in v2 containers ? have you tested some ? micha ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
