Re: [Flashcoders] AIR native extension - Windows debugging

2014-09-08 Thread James Merrill
I was one of those Flash evangelists that fought the good fight against
HTML/JS/CSS for years And I can remember when the iPhone was launched
almost 8 years ago and everyone called it the death of Flash.

You can debate the merits of Steve Jobs' comments on Flash all day, but the
damage was done, 8 years ago.

In the last 2-3 years amazing things have been cultivated in JS/CSS/HTML5.
We now have two-way data binding with Angular, and responsive CSS to handle
all devices out there. We have something kind of like Starling for the DOM
called Reactjs. Building RIA's has never been easier, and frameworks like
Cordova allow them to be published to not only the web, but mobile devices
too.

There's been a ton of innovation with how we build websites and apps in
HTML, and things are getting more exciting with a stronger focus on
animation and interactivity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8TXgCzxEnw.
There's a  unified force in the community pushing new features for us
developers to use. I have to wonder how this compares to the Flash
community. Is Adobe adding new features? Are there new frameworks coming
out that redefine Flash development as we know it?

Flash does a lot of things very well, but I wonder how much longer can it
be relevant without major support from Adobe. I'm sure there's still jobs
out there for Flash devs, but I'd have to imagine the pool is getting
smaller.




On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk
wrote:

 That's really encouraging.
 Great!
 Thanks


 On 07/09/2014 02:13, Rick wrote:

 AIR app installs cross a billion - April 2014
   now powers almost a hundred thousand unique applications on desktops
 and mobile devices.

 http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2014/04/air-app-
 installs-cross-a-billion.html

 It's such a great platform still - I've been using it to make ios apps
 with good results. The weakness is how it is perceived. But clients do
 smile at the reduced developer costs and its great capabilities. If only
 adobe would hire an a-list PR firm to change the perception to match the
 reality.

  Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 20:18:12 +0100
 From: j...@easypeasy.co.uk
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR native extension - Windows debugging

 Good point.
 Thanks
 John

 On 05/09/2014 21:43, Henrik Andersson wrote:

 The problem here is developers not stating what runtime they use for
 their apps. What can be done is checking existing apps for obvious signs
 of the runtime. Shouldn't take long for someone to crawl the appstore
 and check all the apps for the fingerprint of the runtime.

 John McCormack skriver:

 There may have been some merit in Apple's battery argument since
 greater cpu activity, for Flash's vector format, might incur a greater
 energy cost.

 Although Flash is having a hard time I was thinking more of using AIR,
 which I think has more life left in it.

 The thing is, I have no idea how active developers are with app's
 delivered via AIR.
 Are there many AIR app's being produced?


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Re: [Flashcoders] AIR native extension - Windows debugging

2014-09-08 Thread James Merrill
Oh it is a spaghetti mix of code. But that's not necessarily evil.

Think about it this way, you're not really supposed to be mixing them, they
are supposed to be complimenting each other.

Your HTML defines your content, and that's it.
Your CSS adds fonts, colors, positioning, and simple interactivity, that's
it.
Your JS adds logic to your project.

So you're not actually mixing everything together, you're leveraging each
one to add an integral piece to your project. You may take on all these
jobs yourself, or you may not. Some companies have frontend developers who
do HTML/CSS and dedicated Javascript developers to only do JS. It's a
different way of thinking than using one platform for everything.

It can be unnerving trying to keep up with all of the new JS frameworks
that are constantly coming up, and even worse trying to integrate them all.
Trust me, I get paid to do it. Fortunately there's a massive community to
fall back on when it comes to troubleshooting.

If you're building Flex apps you'd definitely like Angular, which you would
use with Cordova to publish to iPad. Basically, Cordova is part of
Phonegap, which is a build system for deploying to mobile devices. Phonegap
will wrap your code in a native app with a web view, so it's essentially a
website being viewed in an app. Cordova is a javascript library that
exposes all the native APIs of iOS/Android, so now your app can do much
more than a website. I have used XCode on a Mac to test my Phonegap apps.
IIRC, the native wrapper isn't changing, only the internal HTML/CSS/JS, so
you don't have to compile like you would with a native app. I also used
this to my advantage by building parts of the app in-browser.

You could use Angular to structure your app in a MVC-like pattern, and then
use Phonegap to deploy it.

Also, I've switched to using Sublime Text 3 as my editor of choice, and I
can't recommend it enough.

Hopefully that helps!



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:04 PM, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk
wrote:

 James,

 I would prefer to avoid learning a handful of applications, if possible,
 though I did follow your link and subscribe to the channel. Thank you.

 It sounds such a spaghetti mix one has to learn before even attempting to
 write the app:
 JS + CSS + HTML5 +Angular +Reactjs +Cordova

 Flash Builder can publish an app straight to the tablet, how does one go
 about the with the combination you use?

 You used to be interested in IntelliJ - is that the IDE you settled on?

 On Flash Builder:
 Today I asked Adobe for the upgrade price to Flash Builder 4.7 Premium but
 the guy didn't know if was kept up-to-date as the CC version is.

 One Adobe's site the forum has one recent post and the rest are from weeks
 ago, so no clue there about what, if anything is happening.

 What IDE's are other people using?

 John


 On 08/09/2014 15:50, James Merrill wrote:

 I was one of those Flash evangelists that fought the good fight against
 HTML/JS/CSS for years And I can remember when the iPhone was launched
 almost 8 years ago and everyone called it the death of Flash.

 You can debate the merits of Steve Jobs' comments on Flash all day, but
 the
 damage was done, 8 years ago.

 In the last 2-3 years amazing things have been cultivated in JS/CSS/HTML5.
 We now have two-way data binding with Angular, and responsive CSS to
 handle
 all devices out there. We have something kind of like Starling for the DOM
 called Reactjs. Building RIA's has never been easier, and frameworks like
 Cordova allow them to be published to not only the web, but mobile devices
 too.

 There's been a ton of innovation with how we build websites and apps in
 HTML, and things are getting more exciting with a stronger focus on
 animation and interactivity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8TXgCzxEnw
 .

 There's a  unified force in the community pushing new features for us
 developers to use. I have to wonder how this compares to the Flash
 community. Is Adobe adding new features? Are there new frameworks coming
 out that redefine Flash development as we know it?

 Flash does a lot of things very well, but I wonder how much longer can it
 be relevant without major support from Adobe. I'm sure there's still jobs
 out there for Flash devs, but I'd have to imagine the pool is getting
 smaller.




 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk
 wrote:

  That's really encouraging.
 Great!
 Thanks


 On 07/09/2014 02:13, Rick wrote:

  AIR app installs cross a billion - April 2014
now powers almost a hundred thousand unique applications on desktops
 and mobile devices.

 http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2014/04/air-app-
 installs-cross-a-billion.html

 It's such a great platform still - I've been using it to make ios apps
 with good results. The weakness is how it is perceived. But clients do
 smile at the reduced developer costs and its great capabilities. If only
 adobe would hire an a-list PR firm to change the perception to match

Re: [Flashcoders] Pulling data from social media

2014-08-27 Thread James Merrill
Instagram uses JSON formatting for their API too. Depending on the data you
want to retrieve, you may need to use OAuth. Fortunately they make it
pretty easy.

Have you considered using PHP to fetch the data you need, and then convert
it from JSON to XML? It may be easier to deal with.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/856833/is-there-some-way-to-convert-json-to-xml-in-php


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:59 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Hi,

 So one else has any experience with Pinterest or Instagram?

 Thanks,
 John

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Re: [Flashcoders] Html coding: video for iPad and Flash on one page

2014-07-22 Thread James Merrill
://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/use-html-5-video-on-all-browsers/
  
  
  
   On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya 
   natavi.m...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I need play video only for iPad and other devices that does not
  support
   Flash. Does this code do that?
  
  
   2014-07-20 19:51 GMT+04:00 Micky Hulse mickyhulse.li...@gmail.com
 :
  
   On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:41 AM, natalia Vikhtinskaya
   natavi.m...@gmail.com wrote:
   I tested on Windows - just blank page. It seems  does not like
   style=display:none but I don't know another solition.
  
   I typically use:
  
   video poster=foo.jpg width=480 height=360 preload=none
   controls
 source src=foo.webm type=video/webm
 source src=foo.ogv type=video/ogg
 source src=foo.mp4 type=video/mp4
 ... Flash fallback goes here ...
   /video
  
   You'll have to change width/height to match video.
  
   This app is great for converting your source to diff formats:
  
   http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread James Merrill
I would really consider saying no to that request, and suggesting a rebuild
that uses modern web standards. There are a lot of web optimizations that I
would almost guarantee an export wouldn't consider... You'd definitely want
to be lazy loading a lot of those assets so the preloading is reasonable.
Ultimately, do you want to be refactoring and fixing AS3 code that Adobe
will hopefully support in the future, or dealing with loads of Javascript.
It's a tough choice :/


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can
 get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers,
 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now
 wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;)

 I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of
 things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come
 along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a
 direction.

 Thanks,
 John

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 Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason 
 jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

  New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas
 and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

2013-05-23 Thread James Merrill
I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
bunch of good programming subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5

As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson al...@cyberiantiger.bizwrote:

 I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
 under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
 development time.

 Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
 programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
 moved to a Facebook group.

 Cordially,

 Kerry Thompson
 On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, Bryan Thompson br...@swfmagic.com wrote:

  I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
  reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
 advantage
  of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
  like
  this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
  JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
  languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
  developer.
 
  Thanks in advance guys!
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread James Merrill
From my perspective as a former Flash Developer at an Ad agency, I can't
imagine us getting any more serious Flash work. These days we still use
Flash for banner ads, but that's it. We've tried using Adobe Edge to do
HTML5 banners, but it was an awful experience. I rest ALL of my blame on
Adobe for both of these situations, not the underlying technologies.

If you're betting on Adobe, you're going to lose. They've royally screwed
up how they handled this whole Flash fiasco in the last five years. I have
ZERO faith in their Edge HTML5 platform, and I suggest that you don't buy
the hype. Adobe makes good designs software, and that's it.

As AS3 Flash developers, we understand the complexities of RIA's much
better than your average Javascript programmer. We've been doing AJAX far
before it was popularized in mainstream web development. It was sendAndLoad
to us in AS2. We understand animation, interactivity, and user experience
much more than most. That's our strength, and it transcends Flash. A lot of
you may not believe me, but it's becoming a reality that you can make Flash
quality experiences in modern browsers.

As for coding HTML5/CSS/JS in an opensource IDE with Greensock JS, Angular,
or even Jquery, it's getting better. Javascript is not as elegant as AS3,
actually it's more akin to AS2... But progress is being made with new
releases of ECMAScript, and MV* frameworks like Backbone and Angular.

I miss the good ole days of Flash... But times are exciting as a web
developer, I've found some comfort in embracing the change.



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Newman capta...@unfocus.com wrote:

 On 5/8/13 2:20 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:

 Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on
 PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)?

 NME / haXe, or with a bit of additional work, Xamarin (with the various
 Mono ports) - or Unity3D - based on the same tech. There are dozens of
 C/C++ based cross platform frameworks as well - Cocos2D, MarmaladeSDK, etc.
 Some scripting engines, CoronaSDK, LoomScript, etc. I still think Flash has
 an edge (except maybe over Xamarin), but tell that to Adobe.

 I wish Adobe was as enthusiastic about defending Flash as you are. That
 would go a long way toward convincing potential buyers, that the platform
 isn't going to evaporate tomorrow. As I said in another post - Flash and
 AIR are great tech, but Adobe's public support is nonexistent, which is
 sad, because it wouldn't take much.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread James Merrill
Thanks for the link Mike, it seems that CreateJS is definitely a step in
the right direction.

I'm still not sold on Adobe's EDGE suite though... I am afraid that I'll
always be skeptical of generated HTML after seeing Dreamweaver's design
view. I also know from experience that including Adobe Edge's javascript
libraries in filesize sensitive contexts will really limit your options.
These things make me worried that there may never be a competent,
visual-based IDE for HTML... which would be a major step backwards from the
glory days of Flash.






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 Nice to see you're still lurking, mesh :)

 CreateJS looks interesting and I've toyed with it a bit. Some of the new
 integration opportunities with Flash CC will be interesting to check out.
 However, it'll be primarily a toy and best for demo work until (and if)
 Adobe can create a clear professional solution for the development of
 creative application apps in HTML.

 Edge tooling doesn't cut it for robust, performant and maintainable code –
 at least not even close to the same ballpark as those in the space had with
 Flex/Flash. There's some interesting things going on there though.

 -j



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  Check out CreateJS:
 
  http://www.createjs.com/
 
  Includes the ability to export from Flash Pro.
 
  mike chambers
 
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  Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we
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Re: [Flashcoders] iOS picker component for AIR

2012-06-19 Thread James Merrill
Sid, you might be able to use Native Extensions to pull up the iOS picker.
I also tried to replicate the native picker with little success. I would
find it very hard to believe that a AS3 based alternative will work
smoothly, given the performance issues apparent in much simpler things in
Flash iOS.



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 Hi Ivan,

 Thanks for your reply, but i actually meant an different kind of picker.
 More along the lines of iOS native date picker component:
 http://www.techotopia.com/images/8/88/Ios_4_date_picker.jpg

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-24 Thread James Merrill
Have you guys given Adobe edge a try? It's like Flash MX, without easily
accessible fonts or drawing tools...

My fear is that handwriting HTML will always be cleaner and more structured
than using an IDE. Imagine building a robust web application with tons of
animation in Edge... It just seems impossible, where as Flash made it easy.



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote:

 +1


 On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Kevin Newman wrote:

  There is this idea that was articulated by an old timer - an ex-bank CEO
 - on Bill Moyer's show a few weeks ago, that companies and running
 companies used to be about product and solving customers' problems - great
 loan products if you are are a banker, or Flash and great tools if you run
 Adobe. But these days business culture has changed to be primarily about
 profit, to the point where you actually get Kudos for gloating about how
 much money you were able to stock pile this quarter, instead of what great
 products you created, or how many customers you satisfied.

 This is a sad state of affairs that affects more than just Adobe, though
 they seem to have slipped into that black hole of profit gloating just like
 so many other American corporations. And the CEOs probably get real social
 kudos for that money gloating at their cocktail parties.

 Personally, I'll stay focused on products and customers, and hope that's
 enough to help change the culture back. I'm pretty much at the bottom of
 the totem pole though. I can only hope these old ideas will see some kind
 of revival at that corporate board and CEO level of American culture.

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[Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash
anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage
being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that?



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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
 When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :) 

What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things that
Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency Flash is
being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool, animated website
we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously afraid to start
developing for mobile, because the second a client asks for some
functionality that requires Native Extensions to work, I'll be totally SOL.

Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4? It's
unfortunate that it will never happen.



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 At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.


 Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:

  When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :)

 John

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 Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
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 Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




 On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:

  
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.htmlhttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
I'm going to play devils advocate here for a second.

The whole browser compatibility aspect of HTML is diminishing, modern
browsers are constantly updated without having to re-download them. In a
couple of years, it won't be a problem.

Another major concern of mine was seeing this site:
http://www.nikechosenseries.com/

That's basically Flash quality, with SEO, linking, native scroll, all the
goodies from HTML. Once it becomes easy to develop sites like that, I can't
see why using Flash would be better.




On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Creighton, Gerry gcreigh...@discmakers.com
 wrote:

 Except that you need a certain level of browser to handle HTML5. That's
 the bummer, it'll
 Take some time to get more people on board.

 -Gerry

 On 2/22/12 2:24 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:

  When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :) 
 
 What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things that
 Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency Flash is
 being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool, animated website
 we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously afraid to start
 developing for mobile, because the second a client asks for some
 functionality that requires Native Extensions to work, I'll be totally
 SOL.
 
 Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4? It's
 unfortunate that it will never happen.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ima Newsletta
 bignewsletter...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.
 
 
  Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:
 
   When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :)
 
  John
 
  John R. Sweeney Jr.
  Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
  OnDemand Interactive Inc
  Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
 
 
 
 
  On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:
 
 
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.html
 h
 ttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
 
  A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants
 Flash
  anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future
  usage
  being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that?
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

2012-02-22 Thread James Merrill
I haven't personally tried WebGL. I have seen tests though that show it's
faster than Flash. However, there aren't any major frameworks like we have
for Flash Stage3D. I am sure that will change in time though. I don't know
if it's a safe bet that Flash will win out over HTML5 with 3D.

In regards to development speed, Flash definitely kicks ass. It's
unquestionably faster to develop it, and AS3 is IMO, a superior language to
JS. This is what hangs me up the most. I want to use AS3 for Web
Development, but it doesn't look like that's going to be viable for much
longer.

Javascript doesn't support classes, but you can hack in public in
private variables by playing around with object scope. It's not a very
ideal situation.

@Matt
I should have pointed out that there are some Flash elements on that site.
The HTML page transitions are ridiculous though.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Merrill, Jason 
jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

 Have you tried building an interactive 3D environment in Javascript/HTML5?
  There is 3D capability out there, but most of the examples I have seen
 have been ports from C++ code. Just because there is a trend towards
 something, and it's possible to do something with a new tech, doesn't make
 it the best option. Most of my friends in the interactive space tell me
 while they can do most Flash like stuff in HTML 5/Canvas/CSS3/Javascript,
 it takes about three times longer than it does in Flash/Flex/Actionscript
 and they don't get the same OOP benefits when programming.

  Jason Merrill
  Instructional Technology Architect II
  Bank of America  Global Learning





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 flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of James Merrill
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:53 PM
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start
 learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

 I'm going to play devils advocate here for a second.

 The whole browser compatibility aspect of HTML is diminishing, modern
 browsers are constantly updated without having to re-download them. In a
 couple of years, it won't be a problem.

 Another major concern of mine was seeing this site:
 http://www.nikechosenseries.com/

 That's basically Flash quality, with SEO, linking, native scroll, all the
 goodies from HTML. Once it becomes easy to develop sites like that, I can't
 see why using Flash would be better.




 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Creighton, Gerry 
 gcreigh...@discmakers.com
  wrote:

  Except that you need a certain level of browser to handle HTML5.
  That's the bummer, it'll Take some time to get more people on board.
 
  -Gerry
 
  On 2/22/12 2:24 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :) 
  
  What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things
  that Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency
  Flash is being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool,
  animated website we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously
  afraid to start developing for mobile, because the second a client
  asks for some functionality that requires Native Extensions to work,
  I'll be totally SOL.
  
  Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4?
  It's unfortunate that it will never happen.
  
  
  
  On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ima Newsletta
  bignewsletter...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.
  
  
   Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:
  
When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :)
  
   John
  
   John R. Sweeney Jr.
   Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc
   Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:
  
  
  http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.h
  tml
  h
  ttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
  
   A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants
  Flash  anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with
  its future  usage  being hardcore gaming. How many of you
  guys/gals are doing that?
  
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