Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Spiderman 3 === Worst movie ever

2007-05-07 Thread hank williams

Before we get flamed for being OT, I just want to get this in.

I think the movie was excellent, and I am, to put it mildly, an incredibly
picky movie eater.

But specifically. Two things stand out.

1. The evil spiderman is one of the funniest characters I have seen in a
long time. e.g. To silly girl next door: Yeah go make me some cookies with
nuts in them, and go get me some milk, and the white guy dorky guy who
thinks he's cool and kinda is but *reeely* isnt. Absolutely hilarious. Tobey
Maguire is an excellent actor.

2. The sandman is one of the most amazing special effects on the big
screen... ever. I think its the kind of thing that makes pixar look lame.
(and I dont think pixar is lame). I was in awe.

Hank


On 5/7/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Spiderman 3: So bad, I have to post OT on Flashcoders to warn my
colleagues to avoid it at all costs.

Never see Spiderman 3.  Ever.  Go your whole life without seeing it.  It
might be the worst movie ever made.  Seriously.  It was unbelievable how
bad it was.  Of the people who did not walk out, a huge amount booed at
the end (myself included).  Many people walked out.  I felt I should
have, too, and I have never walked out of a movie.  The theater was
packed at the beginning and maybe 2/3 full at the end.  There were more
scenes than I can count where you could hear the whole audience groaning
at how ridiculously stupid it was.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Announced

2007-03-27 Thread hank williams

It appear that flash CS3 is much more than flash 9 alpha. it has new
drawing tools, as3 components and lots of other stuff.

Hank

On 3/27/07, Hairy Dog Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My guess is that Flash CS3 is Flash 9... but that's literally an armchair
guess. Anyone out know if that is true?


-Original Message-
From: Russell Sprague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:13 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Announced

So is this the next version of Flash, or is it just Flash 8 with AS3
support?  It would seem odd to me if they released Flash 9 with out ever
having a beta.

Russ


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Re: [Flashcoders] apollo is in macromedia labs

2007-03-19 Thread hank williams

I would imagine you can write in actionscript too, albeit AS3, but still
actionscript.

Hank

On 3/19/07, dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Too bad its onely for Flex :)
I need it for flash

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Re: [Flashcoders] Site Check

2007-03-14 Thread hank williams

got all the way through.

On 3/14/07, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could I get some of you to check this site:

http://www.simon-mills.co.uk/test/

Some people are saying that it gets stuck at 1% or 2%. Can anyone confirm
this?

Cheers.

Adrian Lynch

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Gig

2007-02-04 Thread hank williams

while he probably should have said where he was, you certainly
wouldn't win many puzzle contests. 212 is NYC. Oh... Thats New York
City. In New York State ;)

On 2/4/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On-site? The real fun will be guessing where the site happens to be..

My guess is that it's not in Tahiti..  ;-)

- Original Message -
From: Alan Ruthazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:58 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex Gig


We have a very interesting project coming up where we'd like to bring in
a Flex developer to work a day or two per week on site and a day or two
per week wherever you work best (home, our office, your garage, etc...
sorry Tahiti's not an option.) Essentially we would be looking for a
fair amount of Flex support for about 3 months and perhaps much longer.
It will definitely be a creative project and intense so please contact
us if there's a good fit for you.



Thanks for the consideration - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at
212-481-9070 x





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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Gig

2007-02-04 Thread hank williams

On 2/4/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, but he didn't even mention a country and flexcoders is more than just
the USA.


Yeah, you're right. The 212 thing is not so obvious to non-US
residents. A much better way to do it than looking at the area code
would have been to look at the siite.com website :)


I'm not in the USA, so it wasn't really worth investigating further - there
was no prize to be gained for solving the puzzle!


But then, how did you know it was in the USA without investigating to
find out where it was. It seems your psychic powers trump your puzzle
solving abilities :)

Sorry. Feeling very mischievous this morning.

Regards
Hank


I've only just realised this is posted on flashcoders rather than
flexcoders..

Paul (here in the UK)

- Original Message -
From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Gig


 while he probably should have said where he was, you certainly
 wouldn't win many puzzle contests. 212 is NYC. Oh... Thats New York
 City. In New York State ;)

 On 2/4/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On-site? The real fun will be guessing where the site happens to be..
 
  My guess is that it's not in Tahiti..  ;-)
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Ruthazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:58 AM
  Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex Gig
 
 
  We have a very interesting project coming up where we'd like to bring in
  a Flex developer to work a day or two per week on site and a day or two
  per week wherever you work best (home, our office, your garage, etc...
  sorry Tahiti's not an option.) Essentially we would be looking for a
  fair amount of Flex support for about 3 months and perhaps much longer.
  It will definitely be a creative project and intense so please contact
  us if there's a good fit for you.
 
 
 
  Thanks for the consideration - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at
  212-481-9070 x
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Need a volunteer Flash Programmer

2007-01-31 Thread hank williams

On 1/31/07, nelson ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.swivelgames.com

that says it all.



Err.. excuse me, but what exactly does that say. Doesnt seem to
relate to the thread at all.

Hank


On 1/31/07, Gustavo Duenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, but my family don't get feed with the non-profit I cannot pay
 rethoric.

 Regards

 On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:26 AM, Swivelgames Support wrote:

  Hey, I am looking for some US based or English speaking Flash
  Programmers to help out with me on a small project. This is very small
  and non-profit. I cannot pay you, but if you have a website and
  information then I can add you to my contact page as a member in the
  project and add your website to the affiliates list.Heres what I
  need...I need a Flash Media Player with the following features:
  - A watermark that cannot be covered up in any mode (probably just a
  20height x 300width area at the bottom of the program so I can add
  alogo at the bottom using an external file)- 3
  modes:- Music mode: Mode with just the basic controls for
  music player and the list of songs on the playlist
  - Preferable height x width would be 115-130 x 300-350-
  Video mode: Just the video on bottom with the basic controls on
  top. - Preferable height x width would be 450-500 x
  450-500
  - Fullscreen mode: Music and Video, it will have the controls in
  the top left corner, small, and the playlist or the video in the rest
  of the screen - Preferable height x width would
  be... erm... Fullscreen? 100% x 100% xD- Compatible with M4A,
  MP3, WMA, M4V, AVI, and WMV audio and video files.- Compatible
  with M3U, XML(preferably), PLS, and any a short list of other
  common playlist files.
  - The text in the flash variable f should be used to load the audio,
  video, or playlist file using, say, ./load.php?file=$f or something.
  - This will give me the possibility of using a PHP to my advantage
  so I can use a MySQL DB to save video and music files and not worry
  aboutthe downloading and distributing of songs and
  videos illegally.- And a few others.I
  may or may not pay you, give me a wanted salary and I may give you
  commission, but I do not have money atm to give away. It would be
  great
  if someone could help me though, and I am looking for someone who can
  voluntarily help me through out the project when I need help.Thanks
  for your time, if this is possilbe thanks ALOT!And if I do end up
  getting money off this I might be able to try and find a way to pay
  you.Of course, as I said, all credit goes to you. You will be added
  to my Contacts page as a member of the projecteven if you will have
  nothing to do with me after this. You can add any info you want on
  the contacts page,including, email, name, location, job, resume,
  etc...
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Re: [Flashcoders] Need a volunteer Flash Programmer

2007-01-31 Thread hank williams

On 1/31/07, Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's the website of the one asking for volunteer work !



Is it that I cant read, or is it hiding somewhere on the page. Or is
this just some inside knowledge about swivelgames that I am not privy
to. Because I dont see anything on the swivelgames.com page about
asking for volunteer work.

Hank


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank
williams
Sent: 31 janvier 2007 15:44
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Need a volunteer Flash Programmer

On 1/31/07, nelson ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.swivelgames.com

 that says it all.


Err.. excuse me, but what exactly does that say. Doesnt seem to relate to
the thread at all.

Hank

 On 1/31/07, Gustavo Duenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry, but my family don't get feed with the non-profit I cannot pay
  rethoric.
 
  Regards
 
  On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:26 AM, Swivelgames Support wrote:
 
   Hey, I am looking for some US based or English speaking Flash
   Programmers to help out with me on a small project. This is very
   small and non-profit. I cannot pay you, but if you have a website
   and information then I can add you to my contact page as a member
   in the project and add your website to the affiliates list.Heres
   what I need...I need a Flash Media Player with the following features:
   - A watermark that cannot be covered up in any mode (probably just
   a 20height x 300width area at the bottom of the program so I can add
   alogo at the bottom using an external file)- 3
   modes:- Music mode: Mode with just the basic controls for
   music player and the list of songs on the playlist
   - Preferable height x width would be 115-130 x 300-350-
   Video mode: Just the video on bottom with the basic controls on
   top. - Preferable height x width would be 450-500 x
   450-500
   - Fullscreen mode: Music and Video, it will have the controls
   in the top left corner, small, and the playlist or the video in the
rest
   of the screen - Preferable height x width would
   be... erm... Fullscreen? 100% x 100% xD- Compatible with M4A,
   MP3, WMA, M4V, AVI, and WMV audio and video files.- Compatible
   with M3U, XML(preferably), PLS, and any a short list of other
   common playlist files.
   - The text in the flash variable f should be used to load the
   audio, video, or playlist file using, say, ./load.php?file=$f or
something.
   - This will give me the possibility of using a PHP to my
   advantage so I can use a MySQL DB to save video and music files and
not worry
   aboutthe downloading and distributing of songs and
   videos illegally.- And a few others.I
   may or may not pay you, give me a wanted salary and I may give you
   commission, but I do not have money atm to give away. It would be
   great if someone could help me though, and I am looking for
   someone who can voluntarily help me through out the project when I
   need help.Thanks for your time, if this is possilbe thanks
   ALOT!And if I do end up getting money off this I might be able to
   try and find a way to pay you.Of course, as I said, all credit
   goes to you. You will be added to my Contacts page as a member of
   the projecteven if you will have nothing to do with me after this.
   You can add any info you want on the contacts page,including,
   email, name, location, job, resume, etc...
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  LEFT AND RIGHT SOLUTIONS LLC
  1225 w. Beaver St. suite 119
  Jacksonville, FL 32204
  904 . 2650330
  www.leftandrightsolutions.com
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Need a volunteer Flash Programmer

2007-01-31 Thread hank williams

ahh... thanks. I was just really confused.

Hank

On 1/31/07, Martin Wood-Mitrovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it that I cant read, or is it hiding somewhere on the page. Or is
 this just some inside knowledge about swivelgames that I am not privy
 to. Because I dont see anything on the swivelgames.com page about
 asking for volunteer work.

its just from the email address of the dude who sent the request.

not really worth your time thinking too deeply about it.
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[Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

2007-01-09 Thread hank williams

It would be interesting, but I cant see what processor its using or
anything.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] which tool to 3d rotate image?

2006-12-28 Thread hank williams


 In that case have you considered just creating a box on the fly
 something like this:

 http://www.flashloaded.com/flashcomponents/3dbox/example3.html

This looks close.   But i'd like to use my own image.



Actually, you can use any image that you want with this component.

I acutally bought it a year or two ago. It works, but I found the API
difficult to work with. In theory it should be able to do *exactly* what you
want, but I gave up trying to get it to do what I wanted and the support
wasnt very good, other than that they were willing to refund my money, which
I guess was in the end good customer service at least.

But the point is that all the engineering to do what you want to do is in
there. You would just need to have serious patience.

Regards,
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Senior Developer Posisition

2006-12-20 Thread hank williams

On 12/20/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Reverse the math from London at $80K.

 NYC: $69K, SF: $52K
 Both of which are far less than what a senior level flash dev should be
 making in this market.

It doesn't work that way. You don't spend all your salary on rent,
food and restaurants. Computers, cars and so on typically cost about
the same as elsewhere in the country. And don't forget you (hopefully)
don't actually spend all of your salary, but save some for retirement,
which could be anywhere.



City to city cost of living calculations/comparisons usually take an average
and include all of those kinds of assumptions in them. Not that they are
perfect (nothing could be), but they do consider those issues.

Regards,
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java

2006-12-07 Thread hank williams

This sounds to me like the unix guys who, way back in the day thought
the gui was just a waste and the command line ruled.

I am not saying every interface needs 3d,  but 3d will be an important
part of ui's in the future. Take, for example, apple's time machine ui
in the upcoming version of OSX. It takes something really complicated,
and by making it 3d, makes it really easy to understand. There will
ulimately be whole new types of applications that require an
additional deimension of expression that will be enabled by 3d.

Regards,
Hank.

On 12/6/06, eric dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime
soon. That includes product items for the most part too.

- e.

On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That rocks.  I'm blown away.  I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
 IDE 9.  Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
 available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
 I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...

 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning  Organizational Effectiveness







 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Christian Giordano
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:54 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
 
 slangeberg wrote:
  Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
  1-2meg
  VM):
 
  http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
 
 Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
 graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
 almost the same.
 
 Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
 3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
 still waiting to make proper tests though.
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe and On2 VP7

2006-10-03 Thread hank williams

There are no announced plans for VP7 and I think it is unlikely there
will be any such announcements in the near future. When Adobe does
upgrade the codec, they could easily choose another video platform
entirely.

Regards,
Hank

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Does anyone know Adobe's plans on including On2  VP7 Vid codec on flv format? 
and Media Server 2.x?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe and On2 VP7

2006-10-03 Thread hank williams

I doubt it was money. Skype could afford vp7 but macromedia couldnt?
Actually I think macromedia (at the time) on the list said that the
license with On2 allowed them to have all of the on2 technology.

I think the issue was that vp7 came out after the software integration
work with the player and vp6 had already begun. And as I recollect it
would not have been easy to switch to vp7 because it worked
differently and they had a deadline.

Regards,
Hank

O

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At 06:51 AM 03/10/2006, Firstpixel wrote:
Does anyone know Adobe's plans on including On2 VP7 Vid codec on flv format?

Macromedia evaluated a number of video CODECs before settling on the
On2 VP6 CODEC.
I suspect that the main reason they didn't go with VP7 ( which was
available at the time )
was simply the licensing cost, On2 likely wanted a lot more money to
license their state
of the art CODEC.


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Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1

2006-10-01 Thread hank williams

On 10/1/06, Steve Wolkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Certainly from a developer perspective, Flashcomm seems to be dying.

@Hank - You really should back up an incendiary statement like that with more 
proof than a flakey listserv.


Steve,

My statement is not based on a flaky listserve, but the fact that no
one even seemed to notice for such a long time that is the indicator.
The fact that no one has mentioned anything about it here for a month
speaks for itself. There are other indicators of a slightly more
confidential nature that to me reflect this as well.

If flashcom had a thriving developer community then people would have
been screaming here for an alternative. They have not. With the
success of flash video, I am sure FMS is doing fine, but not with the
programming base.

Interestingly, a year or so ago, the flashcomm list was thriving, with
lots of questions and lots of activity. If you look at the activity on
the list, even before the list serve went down, days could go by with
no activity. Personally, I suspect the reason for this is the
elimination of a cheap entry level version. But what do I know. Well
what I do know is that FMS/FCS programming discussion has dried up.
That is a fact.

Regards
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 SDK on Macintel

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

flash 9 beta works on my mac.

Hank

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I tried the Flash 9 Beta on my MacPro to no avail... I assume that the Flex2
SDK compiler will fail also. Has anyone tried it? (I'm at work away from
that box or I would try it now)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 SDK on Macintel

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

Oh, well actually I have had problems with that, but I thought it was
because I am doing something a little out of the ordinary. But mostly
what I use it for is creating resources that I can use in flex.

I do get java errors when I try to run apps, but I always thought its
because the code was written for as2, so I thought the as3 compiler
was barfing because I was making f9 swfs. So actually there is a
problem. Oh, and I am running on a macintel.

Hank

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Thats so strange. My original Flash 8 Pro wouldn't launch after migrating to
MacPro, so I reinstalled it. Runs fine in Rosetta. I then downloaded and
installed the F9 Beta. Launches fine, but when I go to compile a AS3 SWF, it
crashes with a Java error. You are able to compile AS3 from f9 Beta while on
a MacIntel?

- e.

On 9/27/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 flash 9 beta works on my mac.

 Hank

 On 9/27/06, eric dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried the Flash 9 Beta on my MacPro to no avail... I assume that the
 Flex2
  SDK compiler will fail also. Has anyone tried it? (I'm at work away from
  that box or I would try it now)
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If it's not possible, it may also not be necessary...



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Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

But what are the alternatives to google adwords - particularly in the
flash world. Or are you just saying money  may not be necessary. Or
perhaps get money some other way? Bank robbery perhaps?

I still dont get it.

On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i.e.: find an alternative!

-Scott

On 9/27/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If it's not possible, it may also not be necessary...
 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

On 9/27/06, Ryan Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He is saying you may not need to use flash to read in the adwords and just
float a div above flash and put the google adwords in the div.




Every time this question gets asked, the answer is well you could do this...

But the question was has anybody successfully incorporated Google
Adsense Ads into their site.

It is of course, interesting to hear how people *think* they would do
it. But it is far different to speculate than to do it. And I
personally would love to hear from someone that has *actually tried*
to do it and what the issues they encountered were. The devil is in
the details. And as with all code, those details cannot be discovered
by just thinking about it.

Regards
Hank




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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

But what are the alternatives to google adwords - particularly in the
flash world. Or are you just saying money  may not be necessary. Or
perhaps get money some other way? Bank robbery perhaps?

I still dont get it.

On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i.e.: find an alternative!

 -Scott

 On 9/27/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If it's not possible, it may also not be necessary...
  
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

2006-09-27 Thread hank williams

That is funny!

On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How's this for an ironic twist? As I'm reading these posts about Google's
AdSense, when I spot a sponsored link (AdSense?) at the top of Gmail with
this link:

The Death Of 
Adsensehttp://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/iclk?sa=lai=BfzAVZpwaRZ7pMaPcwgHMhdy8AeTSgBuoyfyYAsCNtwGg_goQARgBIIaPgAIoCEiNOVDc1symBaoBOUFjY291bnRBZ2UxMjB0b0luZmluaXR5K05hbWVEZXRlY3Rpb25WZXJ0aWNhbFdvcmQrVmlld19DVrIBCWdtYWlsLmNvbcgBAdoBMGh0dHA6Ly9nbWFpbC5jb20vc3kydjZ4MWM2dDQxOGMwOTd0aHk3Y2JobHJ6cTdzMZUCGkswCqkCNprJ35DZvz4num=1adurl=http://www.wh01.co.uk/2006/09/21/the-death-of-adsense-part-two/-
www.wh01.co.uk - Disappointed with your Adsense check? Free report explains
why

Life is great!

-Scott

On 9/27/06, Ryan Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He is saying you may not need to use flash to read in the adwords and just
 float a div above flash and put the google adwords in the div.


 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank
 williams
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:34 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...

 But what are the alternatives to google adwords - particularly in the
 flash world. Or are you just saying money  may not be necessary. Or
 perhaps get money some other way? Bank robbery perhaps?

 I still dont get it.

 On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i.e.: find an alternative!
 
  -Scott
 
  On 9/27/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's not possible, it may also not be necessary...
   
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Uploading file using Flash and Java

2006-09-23 Thread hank williams

I dont know if you know about the bug/feature where flash sends two
messages to the server. The first one one is a blank message and the
second on is the real message. Adobe says they did this to make sure
that there is really a server there before sending. But it is totally
non standard.

There are also other differences between the way flash uploads and the
way browsers do. In order to make it work, I had to modify the server
side code. I used the upload code at servlets.com. Its quite good, but
I still had to play with things to get it right.

The bottom line is that flash upload is not very well done. There are
even bugs they knew about between 8 that they didnt fix for 9. So you
just have to think about upload as a custom function and something
where you can't rely on standards.

Regards
Hank

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Hi everybody,

I´m trying to upload an image file using a Flash form. The server script to
copy the file into the server is developed in Java.
The problem is that, when i invoke the upload method (fileUpload.upload(url),
where fileUpload is a FileReference object)
flash ouput says that file was opening (onOpen event is invoked) and that
transfer is completed (onComplete event is invoked).

The problem occurs in the server script:

I've got an error trying to get the MultipartRequest object. The exception
is: java.io.IOException:Malformed line after disposition: Submit Query

I'm printing the request header and i've found this: A normal header should
be like this:

  POST /handler.cfm HTTP/1.1
  Accept: text/*
  Content-Type: multipart/form-data;
  boundary=--Ij5ae0ae0KM7GI3KM7ei4cH2ei4gL6
  User-Agent: Shockwave Flash
  Host: www.example.com
  Content-Length: 421
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Cache-Control: no-cache

  Ij5GI3GI3ei4GI3ei4KM7GI3KM7KM7
  Content-Disposition: form-data; name=Filename

  MyFile.jpg
  Ij5GI3GI3ei4GI3ei4KM7GI3KM7KM7
  Content-Disposition: form-data; name=photo; filename=MyFile.jpg
  Content-Type: application/octet-stream

  FileDataHere
  Ij5GI3GI3ei4GI3ei4KM7GI3KM7KM7
  Content-Disposition: form-data; name=Upload

  Submit Query
  Ij5GI3GI3ei4GI3ei4KM7GI3KM7KM7--

but the REQUEST HEADER I'M RECEIVING is like this:

  POST /handler.cfm HTTP/1.1
  Accept: text/*
  Content-Type: multipart/form-data;
  boundary=--Ij5ae0ae0KM7GI3KM7ei4cH2ei4gL6
  User-Agent: Shockwave Flash
  Host: www.example.com
  Content-Length: 421
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Cache-Control: no-cache

So, the problem is that the header is incomplete. Does anybody know
what could be the cuase? what's happening?

Thank you very much
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-18 Thread hank williams

Thats interesting. I dont know many computer programmers that arent
passionate - degree or not. Of course I am not a useful statistical
sample, but obviously have had a different life experience.

On 9/18/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Of course, but it's quite rare. I'm not saying all non-graduates are
passionate about learning their trade either. More often than not being
passionate about what you do for a living is pretty rare...

!k

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Are both not possible?

On 9/18/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hear what you mean, as that has bit me in the ass a few times. I
honestly
 believe though that the people who learn out of passion, instead of
 requirement, end up with a better understanding in the end anyhow.

 !k

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  Exactly, and I'm skeptical of anyone who requires a CompSci
  degree for a Flash position because there isn't a single
  college degree for Flash programming.  ;)

 Comp Sci isn't about Flash programming, or Java programming, or {insert
 language flavor of the week} programming. It's not even about programming.
 My personal observation, however, is that people who have a comp sci
 background tend to make better programmers than those who don't. The best
 Flash programmers I've met, personally, have comp sci backgrounds, for
what
 that's worth.

 Personally, I don't have that background, unfortunately, and I have
 certainly felt its absence at times; there are a bunch of things I've had
to
 learn the hard way as a result.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-18 Thread hank williams

But it sounds like you consider having a family or other committments
mutually exclusive to passion or even continued learning. My
definition of passion did not require neglecting family though
certainly after hours work is generally an indicator of passion.

Personally, I know of several programmers that have a wife and kids
and who dedicate time to them, that I would consider passionate
programmers, though our definitons may be diverging. Personally, I
consider being a well rounded person useful in the context of
developing software for human beings. And though, right now I am
chained to my computer in a crunch to release a product, I dont
consider having a life to be a detriment to being passionate about
anything - programming included.

Hank

On 9/18/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just so we're clear, I don't mean they simply enjoy their jobs. I'm talking
about the guys who constantly learn, adapt and take their work home with
them on a regular basis. The guys who eat, breathe and sleep their jobs.

I've found that there are many guys fresh out of school who are like this
for the first 6 months to a year and than taper off. Than it's simply 9 to 5
and everything else is a waste.

If you know a lot of them, than you're living in a pretty unique place
compared to where I'm from. I'm pretty rigged into the industry here and
generally most of the guys couldn't even do that if they wanted to. They
have families or other commitments that infringe on their time.

Cheers,

!k

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Thats interesting. I dont know many computer programmers that arent
passionate - degree or not. Of course I am not a useful statistical
sample, but obviously have had a different life experience.

On 9/18/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course, but it's quite rare. I'm not saying all non-graduates are
 passionate about learning their trade either. More often than not being
 passionate about what you do for a living is pretty rare...

 !k

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 Are both not possible?

 On 9/18/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I hear what you mean, as that has bit me in the ass a few times. I
 honestly
  believe though that the people who learn out of passion, instead of
  requirement, end up with a better understanding in the end anyhow.
 
  !k
 
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   Exactly, and I'm skeptical of anyone who requires a CompSci
   degree for a Flash position because there isn't a single
   college degree for Flash programming.  ;)
 
  Comp Sci isn't about Flash programming, or Java programming, or {insert
  language flavor of the week} programming. It's not even about
programming.
  My personal observation, however, is that people who have a comp sci
  background tend to make better programmers than those who don't. The
best
  Flash programmers I've met, personally, have comp sci backgrounds, for
 what
  that's worth.
 
  Personally, I don't have that background, unfortunately, and I have
  certainly felt its absence at times; there are a bunch of things I've
had
 to
  learn the hard way as a result.
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] specifying type of an array contents?

2006-09-17 Thread hank williams

Also, if you dont want to go all the way to haXe, MTASC has added the
ability to indicate the type of an array. I forget the exact syntax,
but you put the type in a comment.

Regards
Hank

On 9/17/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/17/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a way to tell flash what types an array contains?

Not in ActionScript, unless you make some custom methods that access
it and check for the type at runtime.
In haXe, however, you can do just that. It can compile for FlashPlayer
6/7/8/9, into existing SWFs (or create them if you want): haxe.org
The for..in loop also works like you described, and it has some other
really nice features.

Mark
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

I am all for job postings, but I gotta tell ya, sometimes they just
say silly things.

4 years developing flash.
must know AS1 and AS2
Software development person (programmed before flash I presume)
Background in other languages and systems
Familiarity with design patterns
Good understanding of basic database issues
Not a position for an artist or designer.
Must be willing to relocate to Detroit area.

Ok, first of all, most people who have been doing flash for 4+ years
are artists or designers. Almost no serious programming was even
possible in flash before AS2 so by defining 4 years you are
essentially insisting that someone *not* be someone who has a
background in other languages and systems. I'm not saying they don't
exist at all, but it is such a silly requirement because it
inappropriately limits the pool. Of course insisting that someone be
an expert in AS1 is even more silly. Is this because their job will be
fixing someone else's 5 year old spaghetti code? Then the kicker is
that this person must be in the Detroit area or willing to relocate.

So in my mind, they are looking for the tiny pool of people that
studied computer science but were also interested in animation and so
dabbled in flash before it was real programmer ready and are willing
to move to one of the most depressed metropolitan areas in the US. And
I bet they wanna pay like 70-80k. Why cant people write intelligent
job specs. Oh and by the way I am not looking for a job I just find
this annoying that neither I nor any of the excellent programmers I
know (and I know quite a few) would qualify for this job.

I really wonder where some of these job specs come from.

Hank


On 9/15/06, swfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

iDashboards is one of the hottest software companies within Business
Intelligence dashboards (www.iDashboards.com). Our customers include
NASA, US Navy, Lockheed Martin, Johnson Controls and GE. We have an
immediate position for a Senior Flash Developer with 4+ years of
experience.

If being part of a leading edge and innovative software company
excites you, we have an excellent opportunity. We are seeking an
experienced Software Developer who has a strong background in
Flash/ActionScript. This is not a position for a Flash
artist/designer, but for a software development person. Must have a
thorough understanding of ActionScript 1 and 2, and how to write
efficient code. Should have a background in other programming
languages and systems as well. Should be comfortable with
multi-person development projects, and working with other people's
code.

Must be reasonably well-versed in object-oriented software. Needs an
understanding of XML, and its interface to ActionScript. Should be
familiar with SQL and have a good understanding of basic database
issues. Familiarity with design patterns is a plus, as is an
understanding of user interfaces.

OPPORTUNITY
You will be part of our world-class Software Team:
- Develop cutting edge enhancements to the existing software
- Work with other Flash developers and Server-side Development team

REQUIREMENTS
- Must have 4+ years experience in Flash/ActionScript and object
oriented programming
- Must have developed database driven rich-media Flash applications with XML
- BS degree preferred and good work references

The compensation plan is lucrative with a competitive base salary,
bonus and stock options. The company also offers excellent medical
and dental coverage along with 401K.

Please email your resume  a cover letter addressing your
qualifications. Qualified candidates must demonstrate verifiable
references to be considered. Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We will consider exceptionally qualified candidates from any where
within the US or Canada who are willing to relocate to Detroit
region. Our office is located in Troy, MI.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

I didnt say there werent any... but you are not exactly...er... mainstream.

As for your knowing *lots* of people, I suspect, having been around as
long as you have, you know *all* of them :) I'm only half kidding
here. before AS2 there were not exactly a bunch of people that fit
this spec and in such a small community of people they will likely
know each other. If you are looking for one of the what I suspect is
few hundred people who  have your qualifications and then you want to
move them to detroit you better be paying at *TON* of money. When you
have such narrow requirements, recruiting is a *nightmare*. (This is
not just conjecture).

The funny thing is I would rather have a guy with 10 years of C++ with
some Java and SQL thrown in, and two years of AS2, rather than 4 years
of AS. But thats just me.

Regards
Hank

On 9/15/06, Claus Wahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ok, first of all, most people who have been doing flash for 4+ years
 are artists or designers. Almost no serious programming was even
 possible in flash before AS2 so by defining 4 years you are
 essentially insisting that someone *not* be someone who has a
 background in other languages and systems. I'm not saying they don't
 exist at all, but it is such a silly requirement because it
 inappropriately limits the pool. Of course insisting that someone be
 an expert in AS1 is even more silly. Is this because their job will be
 fixing someone else's 5 year old spaghetti code? Then the kicker is
 that this person must be in the Detroit area or willing to relocate.

I have a software developer background (mainly C/C++), was studying CS
in university, and am doing Flash development for like six years now
(that includes well structured OOP AS1 development). I know a bunch of
people that are equally qualified. I honestly don't think they are
*that* off with their requirements.

They could have put that Detroit (or US/Canada) requirement in the
subject though.. ;)

(This is my first and last comment re: job postings on this list. Keep
'em coming, i don't mind)

--
claus wahlers
côdeazur brasil
http://codeazur.com.br
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

I built an entire suite of lead generation and call center applications for a 
mortgage company in Flash MX using AS 1around 5 years ago which was used on a 
daily basis by around 100+ employees. I'd say that took some serious 
programming and a real world app on a fairly large scale!


Ok, look, anyone can provide *one* example of anything, but one, or
even a handful does not disprove the rule. People wrote accounting
systems in Basic on S-100 computers in the 70's too. I wrote assembler
in the 80's for commercial products. So anything is *possible*. But
the fact is that the whole reason Flex exists is that Adobe couldnt
get much real software development going with flash. And even now,
though it is much better, there is still a dearth of comp sci educated
flash programmers. And most people that have been programming in flash
4+ years dont have a comp sci/structured programming background.

Again it doesnt mean there arent any. It just means there arent
*many*. I am a member of a flash programming study group in New York
City. And I havent yet met in our group a single other Flash
programmer with a comp sci background. (at least I dont think so - If
I have dont and you are him, please dont be insulted :) ).

Regards
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

Claus, Grant, Dave, Samuel, Jesse, Brandon etc. have been on this list since
I first joined up 6 or 7 years ago and posted several examples of
applications over the years to demonstrate the abilities of Flash. Heck even
I did a single large app with Flash 4 (Whatta pain!), 4 more with Flash 5,
and than a ton since with every other version...



The fact that you can name the pioneers (and I know who they are) is
an indication of how small the group is. A few hundred, heck even a
few thousand, is a **VERY** small number.  There are hundreds of
thousands (or perhaps millions) of people that are serious programmers
in Java that have been doing it for many years.


The one thing that I do find somewhat laughable is the necessity to state
that a CompSci background is important. For all intents and purposes, by
education I'm a designer. I spent a considerable amount of time and money
teaching myself programming theories and best practices. To say that I'm
unqualified is somewhat insulting considering the effort it took and the
passion it shows.



To be fair, I dont think they said this. I used the term to describe
the type of background they were describing. From my perspective it
doesnt require a comp sci degree, though most people without a fairly
disciplined background (self taught or otherwise) dont innately
understand a lot of concepts. But I certainly dont think you need to
sit in a classroom to learn this stuff.

Regards,
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

On 9/15/06, Aaron Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You guys haven't seen zombo.com, have you?



That is hilarious!

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

Steven,

On 9/15/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The fact that you can name the pioneers (and I know who they are) is
 an indication of how small the group is. A few hundred, heck even a
 few thousand, is a **VERY** small number.  There are hundreds of
 thousands (or perhaps millions) of people that are serious programmers
 in Java that have been doing it for many years.

Just because you've got a degree doesn't mean you know what you're
doing.  There are thousands of serious programmers out there with
degrees that are just mediocre.  That piece of paper doesn't mean what
it used to.



I dont mean to be rude, but er... what are you talking about. Please
read carefully this time.

quote myself
To be fair, I dont think they said this. I used the term to describe
the type of background they were describing. From my perspective it
doesnt require a comp sci degree, though most people without a fairly
disciplined background (self taught or otherwise) dont innately
understand a lot of concepts. But I certainly dont think you need to
sit in a classroom to learn this stuff.
/quote myself


That list of names isn't just a list of Flash pioneers, but talented
hard-working developers who continue to be some of the most influential
people in the business.  Some of them had no previous programming
experience before Flash and now they're some of the best Flash
developers in the world all without a piece of paper that says they sat
in a classroom on some campus for years and without knowing so-called
real programming languages.

Saying AS1 isn't real programming is, IMO, unfair.  Somebody programmed
a graphic adventure game in Flash 3 with inventory, etc. using a
turing-machine movieclip schema.  It must have been quite a challenge to
code but it indeed was programming, and probably smarter and better than
many people who code in AS2 today are capable of.



I am not saying that people who programmed in AS1 are stupid, and this
has nothing to do with fairness. The issue is whether, during the
AS1 era there were a substantial number of serious programmers. The
answer is no. You can take that as a personal afront if you want but
you dont need to. Its just statistics. It has taken a while to get
flash established as a platform. Even now, the flash programmer
numbers are weak relative to the market. The community is small. Back
then 99.9% of what was done with flash was banners and intro pages. Ok
maybe 98%. So you can quote all you want about the cool stuff in the
other 2% but it doesnt change the obvious reality of where the flash
world was in 2002.



I don't have a CompSci degree. I only ever took one programming class; a
one semester course for Director 3 at a community college taught by a
guy who wanted me to do everything in the score because he didn't really
understand Lingo.  The rest I've learned by doing, reading and, luckily,
being mentored.  If an employer doesn't want me because I don't have a
CompSci degree, it's their loss, not mine, because I know Flash better
than many people who claim to be Flash developers out there simply
because nobody told me what its limits or capabilities were, I found
them out for myself in order to make the impossible possible for
clients.  :)


Again please read before you write. It can be helpful. Just for
clarity again from a prior message...

quote myself
To be fair, I dont think they said this. I used the term to describe
the type of background they were describing. From my perspective it
doesnt require a comp sci degree, though most people without a fairly
disciplined background (self taught or otherwise) dont innately
understand a lot of concepts. But I certainly dont think you need to
sit in a classroom to learn this stuff.
/quote myself

Jeez.

Hank





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Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

On 9/15/06, Jason Rayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hank, you don't know what you are talking about. You may be late to the
party, but that doesn't mean that everyone was.


There are a lot of

people (not billions, but a good number)

Ah yes, a good number. Is that somewhere between zero and 100 million?

who meet/exceed YOUR

requirements who were working in Flash before AS 2 was an option.
Seriously, why do you think this list exists?


Oh, I forgot, it takes like zillions of people before you can get a
list going. Cant argue with that.

Why do you think AS 2

exists? Maybe the people in your flash programming study group in New
York City are there to learn from people like you, and the dozens of
Flash programmers with comp sci backgrounds in NYC don't attend your
meetings because your meetings are beneath them.



Nah.


I have zero interest in moving to Troy, MI, but those job requirements
are not unreasonable.


You're right. Not if you are uninterested in filling the position.

I would love to hear one person who is qualified say they are
submitting a resume and would take the job if offered. You havent said
you think you are qualified, but presuming for the sake of argument
you are, you have proved my point by saying that you arent interested.

Regards,
Hank

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash upload problems

2006-09-15 Thread hank williams

According to adobe, the double upload thing is not a bug. It was part
of the design. Supposedly to make sure that there is really a server
there before starting a big upload. It seems to me this was a
*horrible* design decision, but I guess its not a bug since it was
their intent.

But there are subtle differences between the way flash does things and
what is generally expected. I ended up using some server side upload
handling code from servlets.com but I had to modify it to get it to
work with flash. So I empathize with the backend guys that say they
cant get it working. Without server side changes I would have failed
too.

But the struts issue doesnt make any sense if the problem, as they
believe, is in the flash upload code. The bottom line is the flash
code is a little bit err... off. So if you want stuff to work ya gotta
tweak the server side code or not use flash.

Regards,
Hank

On 9/15/06, David Rorex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've had the same problem with the empty uploads, using PHP on the server.
For every file I upload, flash makes 2 requests, the first request with 0
data, and the second one with the actual file. I think it's been replicated
by many people. The solution is to just ignore invalid uploads on the
server.

-David R

On 9/15/06, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Muzak schrieb:
 
 http://www.osflash.org/pipermail/osflash_osflash.org/2006-February/007266.html
 
 *bookmark*
  This has nothing to do with Struts by the way. Struts is just a
 framework.
  http://struts.apache.org/
 
 :-)


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex and subversion don't play nice? - slightly OT

2006-09-10 Thread hank williams

Yes, thats how I use eclipse, with subclipse. I use it successfully
with java. Unfortunately, I cant even remember the specific errors I
was getting. I am very near to launch and I just had to pull the plug
on elipse with flex because it was getting in the way and time is of
the essence.

Hank

On 9/10/06, Peter Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you have subclipse installed?

Peter


On 9/7/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I havent figured it out yet, but I had to stop subversion with flex
 because it just acted wierd and kept screwing up and preventing me
 from updating. But I didnt work hard enough to figure out exactly what
 the problem is. Sucks though.

 Hank

 On 9/7/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We've just started some as3 and flex projects and are having some pretty
  weird problems with Flex copying .svn directories and wreaking havoc.
 
  http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2006/02/subversion_flex.html
 
  After much head-scratching, we determined that this is what's happening
  to us. We put our 'htm-template' folder under version control  and the
  deployment folder was being 'converted' into the html-template folder
  when the .svn dir was copied.
 
  In another unrelated project we had our source folder replaced(!) with
  the html-template folder. While the first project we've got a grasp on
  why it happened and will simply not put html-template under version
  control, we're still uncertain as to why the src folder had its .svn
  folder copied into it. The one difference is that this is a flex
  project, and the first is a pure as3 project.
 
  Does anyone use subversion with flex? Have you had similar issues? What
  is good and what isn't good to put under version control?
 
  Thanks,
  Chris Hill
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex and subversion don't play nice? - slightly OT

2006-09-10 Thread hank williams

If you aren't using Eclipse, what are you using instead?



I mistyped. I am using eclipse just not *subclipse*. But I am not
using subclipse/subversion for my flex code, just my java code. I am
manually backing up right now, which is less than optimal. But I am
currently the only coder so it is less of a burden.

Hank


Peter


On 9/10/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, thats how I use eclipse, with subclipse. I use it successfully
 with java. Unfortunately, I cant even remember the specific errors I
 was getting. I am very near to launch and I just had to pull the plug
 on elipse with flex because it was getting in the way and time is of
 the essence.

 Hank

 On 9/10/06, Peter Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have subclipse installed?
 
  Peter
 
 
  On 9/7/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I havent figured it out yet, but I had to stop subversion with flex
   because it just acted wierd and kept screwing up and preventing me
   from updating. But I didnt work hard enough to figure out exactly what
   the problem is. Sucks though.
  
   Hank
  
   On 9/7/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've just started some as3 and flex projects and are having some pretty
weird problems with Flex copying .svn directories and wreaking havoc.
   
http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2006/02/subversion_flex.html
   
After much head-scratching, we determined that this is what's happening
to us. We put our 'htm-template' folder under version control  and the
deployment folder was being 'converted' into the html-template folder
when the .svn dir was copied.
   
In another unrelated project we had our source folder replaced(!) with
the html-template folder. While the first project we've got a grasp on
why it happened and will simply not put html-template under version
control, we're still uncertain as to why the src folder had its .svn
folder copied into it. The one difference is that this is a flex
project, and the first is a pure as3 project.
   
Does anyone use subversion with flex? Have you had similar issues? What
is good and what isn't good to put under version control?
   
Thanks,
Chris Hill
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Re: [Flashcoders] [JOB] Sr. Flash/AS Programmers (4), Los Angeles, CA | 70-125k

2006-09-07 Thread hank williams

Actually, Dave Watts (list admin) has said numerous times that job
postings are ok on flashcoders, so it seems to me beau is showing
plenty of respect.

Hank

On 9/7/06, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's good to know these jobs are out there, but there has to be a
better place for these posts than a coding list.  Plerase have some
respect.

Mike Britton
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Re: [Flashcoders] Job postings ok?

2006-09-07 Thread hank williams

lol.

Get a dictionary. Unethical is shooting someone, stealing, lying,
spamming, and perhaps other things you could educate us about.

Posting a job to a list where the administrator (Dave Watts), says
it's ok would not seem to qualify. Perhaps its unethical on
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but on flashcoders, posting jobs
has been deemed acceptable.

Hank



On 9/7/06, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

imho it's a distraction from the point of the list, which is coding,
and for this reason it's borderline unethical.  Just my opinion.

Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] Job postings ok?

2006-09-07 Thread hank williams

Can a FlashJobPosts list be started?  Job posts show us options, sure,
but they aren't about code, they are about jobs.



Sure a list could be started. But I doubt anyone except you wants
another list or wants to change anything.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex and subversion don't play nice? - slightly OT

2006-09-07 Thread hank williams

I havent figured it out yet, but I had to stop subversion with flex
because it just acted wierd and kept screwing up and preventing me
from updating. But I didnt work hard enough to figure out exactly what
the problem is. Sucks though.

Hank

On 9/7/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We've just started some as3 and flex projects and are having some pretty
weird problems with Flex copying .svn directories and wreaking havoc.

http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2006/02/subversion_flex.html

After much head-scratching, we determined that this is what's happening
to us. We put our 'htm-template' folder under version control  and the
deployment folder was being 'converted' into the html-template folder
when the .svn dir was copied.

In another unrelated project we had our source folder replaced(!) with
the html-template folder. While the first project we've got a grasp on
why it happened and will simply not put html-template under version
control, we're still uncertain as to why the src folder had its .svn
folder copied into it. The one difference is that this is a flex
project, and the first is a pure as3 project.

Does anyone use subversion with flex? Have you had similar issues? What
is good and what isn't good to put under version control?

Thanks,
Chris Hill
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Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread hank williams

i would like to know if this is rtmp or if they use red 5 ?!



I dont know, but you dont *need* DRM for purely streamed FLVs since
they dont sit in the cache. So I presume they are talking about
progressive download. But these guys always do quite a bad job of
describing what they do, therefore sucking every last bit of
credibility out of their offerings.


Regards
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread hank williams

They used a crypted scheme to prevent the users to get direct access to
the flv source.


Hmm... No one needs this. If it really is streaming, content providers
by and large are not concerned about encrypting streams to prevent
interception. Many major content providers already user FLV streaming
with flash media server so they are already happy with how things
work. If it really is streaming, it seems like another dumb idea from
these guys.

Regards,
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] ANN: Screenweaver HX - Version 1.0

2006-09-02 Thread hank williams

but you won't be able to write it all in

one language if you choose, nor will you be able to extend it how you
see fit.



Sure you will. They are including a browser engine which I assume will
be gecko. This means they will support a plugin architecture. Its not
the same thing as neko, but on the other hand it will easily support
lots of existing compiled code.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] ANN: Screenweaver HX - Version 1.0

2006-08-31 Thread hank williams

And if something goes wrong, then in all closed source softwares, EULA
prevent all kind of accountability anyway because software companies
don't want to get used for lost data - even if it was a bug in their
application. You'll of course get some kind of support, and hopefully
your bug will take a few weeks to get fixed, but in general when someone
ask for a bug fix in open source software, it gets fixed in a matter of
hours.



I dont want to argue the merits here because whether Nicolas is right
here about how quickly open source projects fix bugs, it is
irrelevant.

The reality is that the larger the company, the greater the liklihood
that they only want to buy from another large company. This is why the
whole market has moved from b2b to b2c. Consumers dont care about who
sold them stuff. Big companies generally care deeply. This means that
even well funded startups have had a hard time selling to big
companies in the last few years. This is why startups are now almost
exclusively focusing on b2c. Because individuals have the freedom to
think the way Nicolas would like people to think. Unfortunately
corporate sales is an entirely different, and much more painful
process.

Regards
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] ANN: Screenweaver HX - Version 1.0

2006-08-31 Thread hank williams

This is of course true. I am excited about swhx for my application. My
only point was that it is perfectly reasonable for someone to think
that his clients or customers would prefer something else because of
the large company mentality. But I do think lots of users will not
have any political issues with swhx and will make great use of it.

Regards
Hank

On 8/31/06, Edwin van Rijkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There's truth in what you guys are saying from a practical stance, I
think. But, it is equally true that there are successful open source
projects, that do get used by commercial companies for production
purposes. This is true for all sorts of projects, but especially so for
application development languages and tools.

Although probably having started out small, these projects succeeded in
growing larger over time. I presume as a result of a) the product being
very good, and b) because of enthusiast advocating the software even
though it meant swimming up-stream, in some regards.

Give SWHX a spin to see if you like how it works. If it's not your cup
of tea, leave it be - but if you like it, just try to use it whenever
you get the chance.

Edwin

Cliff Rowley wrote:
 hank williams wrote:
 The reality is that the larger the company, the greater the liklihood
 that they only want to buy from another large company. This is why the
 whole market has moved from b2b to b2c. Consumers dont care about who
 sold them stuff. Big companies generally care deeply. This means that
 even well funded startups have had a hard time selling to big
 companies in the last few years. This is why startups are now almost
 exclusively focusing on b2c. Because individuals have the freedom to
 think the way Nicolas would like people to think. Unfortunately
 corporate sales is an entirely different, and much more painful
 process.

 Right on Hank, that's exactly it.  As individuals we do have that
 freedom, which is why I praised SWHX from the start.

 Unfortunately the main points I brought up initially were lost in the
 banter..  I haven't actually rejected SWHX, or given up on it, I just
 can't see any reason to use it commercially over Apollo.  The fact is
 I'll probably use it a lot for my own little projects (in fact I've
 already started playing with it).

 As I said before, I can see a *lot* of strength in the
 Screenweaver/HaXe partnership.  I just can't see compatibility without
 HaXe being a focal point in the future.  Eventually Apollo and SWHX
 will drift apart, and due to the nature of my work I will always err
 toward Macrobe.
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RE: [Flashcoders] File upload : getting Flash to know the new name

2006-08-29 Thread hank williams

The way that flash file upload works you really need to think about it
a little differently.

The way I do it is to send a command to the server *before* I do the
upload, and I create a record for the upload in my database. This new
ID comes back to flash, and when I do the upload, I add the id as a
parameter in my upload call. So when the upload begins the upload
function on the server side sees the ID of the file and associates it
with the file that is being uploaded. If the upload is not completed
successfuly within a certain amount of time I delete the ID.

This is a bit more work, but it is, as far as I know, the only way of
allowing flash to know what the file that it has uploaded is.

Regards
Hank

On 8/25/06, Serge Jespers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey guys,

I'm doing a fileUpload in this project and in my PHP script, I rename
the file (make an MD5 from it).
I was just wondering how I can get Flash to understand this new
filename... Is this possible at all?

Thanks for your fast responses ;-)

Serge
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[Flashcoders] Cant access sound.id3 tags despite seemingly correct crossdomain.xml file

2006-08-20 Thread hank williams

I cant access my sound file's ID3 tags. My crossdomain.xml file is at
the root of storage.elroynetworks.com and all of my sound files are
there. But the the flash security system wont let me access the ID3. I
can of course access the sound.

Here is my crossdomain.xml

?xml version=1.0 ?
- cross-domain-policy
 allow-access-from domain=* /
 /cross-domain-policy

Any clues?

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] PRINTJOB HELL, PRINTJOB NIGHTMARE with several PAGES

2006-08-18 Thread hank williams

Yeah, I asked this question on Flexcoders but got no answer at all.
Any code would be greatly appreciated :)

The funny thing is this printing a block of multipage text seems like
such a basic thing but there are no examples in the docs and it seems
as thought this issue was never considered as a basic thing people
would need to do.

Regards,
Hank

On 8/18/06, Peter O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have the same problem as the original poster.

I don't suppose anyone can provide more info as a solution than Hans, or
Hans if you're there I would love to see some code.

What are flash mc dimensions to match an A4 page?  Doesn't it vary according
to screen resolution?

How can you efficiently fill a textfield to the point in which you know it
is completely full?

Cheers,
Pete


On 4/24/06, Van De Velde Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You get your text from the textarea and you do this:

 Dynamically attach a movieclip from the library with a preformatted
 textfield that exactly fits an A4 page (set movieclip to _visible = false
 to
 do it invisibly)
 and fill the textfield up with the text from your textarea until the
 textfield is full.

 Then you add to movieclip to the printjob and push the reference to the
 movieclip to an array.

 Cut the remaining text and fill up the next one...
 Create a loop of this to write out all your text.

 After all text is written out, you execute the printjob and remove all
 the movieclips with removeMovieClip by looping the array of movieclips.

 NOTE : this is easier than it seems.


 Been there, done that,

 Regards,

 Hans.




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of julian
 atienza
 Sent: maandag 24 april 2006 17:26
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: [Flashcoders] PRINTJOB HELL, PRINTJOB NIGHTMARE with several
 PAGES

 Hi.
 I wanted to Print contents of a long Scrollable textArea  with Flash, but
 it's a kind of nightmare.

 I tried to made a class to manage Printing (with a PrintJob object inside)
 ,
 and one empty swf that Creates Dynamically the TextArea and the Class to
 ManagePrinting, who feeds textArea with contents and scroll TextArea
 adding
 page by page contents.

 Problems:

 - The Scrolled area in Screen doesn't appeared to be the same than the
 printable area (each Page, i see repeated contents... why? i just don't
 know
 . IT's like the scroll doesn't scroll propertly).

 - Of course, sometimes, appeared incomplete text (with a cut at the
 middle)
 because i don't know any mechanism to avoid it at the moment.


 Somebody have any idea - the contents to print will be sometimes of 5 or
 6
 pages DIN A-4

 thanks in advance
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[Flashcoders] Getting info on flash lite for brew

2006-08-15 Thread hank williams

I know this is not the right forum, but I am wondering if there is a
list where people discuss flash lite and specifically for brew (which,
by the way for those of you who dont know, means mobile flash has
arrived in a *very* big way).

Specifically, in case anybody here knows, I am wondering if flash lite
brew will allow flash to download and play mp3 files.

Thanks
Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash lite - MP3 player

2006-08-15 Thread hank williams

On 8/15/06, Nick Gerig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Its not possible with the dev version of FL due to memory restrictions

I have made a 3gp audio player, but that's a bit of a hack really.


Is this true even using external device sounds

Regards
Hank


Due to FL memory limitations you can only really playback maximum 50% of
the available memory - which translates as 1mb in the dev version of FL2.

Hopefully when OEMs deploy the player they will add on some custom
functions or bump up the memory but that remains to be seen.


Cheers


Nick

justin blunk wrote:

 I apologize if this is not the right mailing list to inquire about
 this. Can someone tell me where I could find out some information on
 using flash lite, with respect to how a mp3 player could be put on a
 mobile phone? In other words, I have a mp3 player made in flash and
 was wanting to put this on a mobile phone using flash lite.

 Thanks for the help.


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Re: [Flashcoders] Moving from Flash to Flex

2006-07-18 Thread hank williams

Yes, it can all be done with flex, and personally,  I would recommend it.
The only down side to flex is that it requires flash 9. And obviously this
is a short term problem. For applications I dont think its much of an issue
since flash 9 automatically upgrades. I wouldnt advise advertising agencies
to switch just yet, but for RIAs I think it is the right thing to do.

Flex will give you lots of built in stuff that makes what you want to do
much easier. MUCH easier. Essentially, flex is just a big class library
built in flash. But it has been incredibly well thought out, and it gives
you a huge running start vs trying to re-invent all that stuff. The type of
product you are trying to build is what flex was designed for.

To get started, I would read the flex quick start on the adobe website. When
you are done (It should take a day or two to go through it as a good flash
developer) you will understand how to do the basics in flex. I have been at
it for about a month and while I would not consider myself expert yet I am
getting to be pretty good. I would also strongly suggest joining the
flexcoders mailing list. Everyone is very helpful.

Regards
Hank

On 7/18/06, blists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I am a flash developer, with basic understanding of OOP, but not very
in-depth. I've built a few flash apps in Flash MX and Flash 8, and now I
want to challenge myself and build a big RIA. I want to do it right
though,
from the start. Where should I start? Can anyone point me to some code
resources?

And should I be using flex now instead of Flash? I'm sure that question
has
been asked more than once, can someone point me in the right direction for
the answer?

The app I am building will be like an Home layout app. So people will be
able to drag and drop objects into a room, and resize, rotate and move
them
to create the room. The objects will all have their own set of properties
that can be edited to change color, shapes, etc. I have never built
anything
this complex. Where can I learn more about building these type of UI
components and how I should structure classes so that functionality like
drag  drop, resize, snap-to etc, can be shared between the UI components?
And can this all be done with Flex?

Any help or pointers in the right direction are appreciated. Thank you!!

BrookD


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers

2006-06-30 Thread hank williams

If you write any JSP/Servlets/J2EE stuff, be sure to check out WTP. It
makes life a lot easier. The deployment stuff is great.


That sounds great. I have a friend who uses netbeans and keeps teasing
me about how much better it is for this stuff. And of course I couldnt
switch if I wanted to, between flex, java, and C there's no way I
could use netbeans, but it sounds like their deployment stuff kicks
ass and I have been jealous.

If WTP makes this smooth, I need to switch *today*.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers

2006-06-29 Thread hank williams

yipeee!!!

On 6/29/06, Francis Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers
is now available:



http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/public_beta/



Francis

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers

2006-06-29 Thread hank williams

Hey scott, what is that callipso thing all about. I mean I went to the
eclipse site and there seemed like alot of kind of esoteric stuff. But
I am not sure. Can you explain?

Thanks
Hank

On 6/29/06, Scott Hyndman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Awesome.

This and the Eclipse Callipso release (which is compatible with Intel
Macs) makes this a pretty good week.

Scott

On 29/06/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yipeee!!!

 On 6/29/06, Francis Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers
  is now available:
 
 
 
  http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/public_beta/
 
 
 
  Francis
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers

2006-06-29 Thread hank williams

Oh ok. Thats interesting. I run eclipse on a mac and pc and hadnt run
into any problems on the mac yet. I am trying to transition to the
mac, but at the moment I can only do my java stuff there, which is a
bummer. I hope they can get their flex2 issues worked out soon.

So does the new eclipse not use SWT?

Hank

On 6/29/06, Scott Hyndman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's the simultaneous new version rollout of 10 Eclipse projects. A
lot of the projects are very cool, but the important one for me is
Eclipse 3.2. The current version of Ecilpse has some problems on Intel
Macs due to its reliance on SWT (which relies on native code). These
should be resolved in this new version.

I'm also looking forward to the new TPTP (a plugin for testing the
performance of applications, and not just ones that are written in
Java). It will not work on the Intel Mac, but since our servers are
not running OSX it doesn't matter. Support for the Mac is planned for
the next version too.

Scott

On 29/06/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey scott, what is that callipso thing all about. I mean I went to the
 eclipse site and there seemed like alot of kind of esoteric stuff. But
 I am not sure. Can you explain?

 Thanks
 Hank

 On 6/29/06, Scott Hyndman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Awesome.
 
  This and the Eclipse Callipso release (which is compatible with Intel
  Macs) makes this a pretty good week.
 
  Scott
 
  On 29/06/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   yipeee!!!
  
   On 6/29/06, Francis Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Flash Player 9 Public Beta for Apple Intel-based Macintosh computers
is now available:
   
   
   
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/public_beta/
   
   
   
Francis
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] FileReference and actionscript 2.0

2006-06-25 Thread hank williams

I am curious what those tricks are.

What I do is to ask the server for an upload code number before I upload
This upload code is associated with the given user and whatever the user is
trying to do. This is application specific. This creates a record in the
database, so that when the file is uploaded the server knows what it is.
Then I send the parameter as part of the upload URL. Additionally, I make
the upload codes time out. So if a code isnt used within a few minutes it is
no longer usable.

Regards
Hank

On 6/25/06, human ghaderyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanx david. I think I can do some tricks to return value after completion
of download.

- Original Message 
From: David Rorex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:21:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] FileReference and actionscript 2.0


On 6/23/06, human ghaderyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list
 I try to use FileReference class in a actionscript 2.0 project. the
 browse and upload methods work fine but it seems that this class
designed
 for AS 1.0 (???). I can't find any AS 2.0 sample and don't know what to
do
 for catching events . I think this class has bad architecture. for
example I
 need to put the uploaded file in database and return its ID to client.

The class works fine in AS2, you catch the events pretty much the exact
same
was as other built in classes (like MovieClip, XML, etc)


FileReference do the transfer by a POST but it seems that there is no way
to
 catch a response from server for this POST Action.

Correct, as far as I know, they did not give a way to recieve any data
returned from the server. All you can know is that the action completed.



any body has some experience to do the uplad with flash remoting?

You can't upload files from the user's local drive using flash remoting.

-David R
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Re: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread hank williams


AJAX programming is not hard at all, as long as you know JavaScript and a
server-side programming language. There's no need to have your server-side
programming language return XML, either, so this is a solution in search
of
a problem.




Lol. So the whole thing about their code eliminating the differences
between browsers is huey huh?!

Thats funny. Well *they* seem to think they have done something really good.
At least they are amusing themselves. Of course I would love to hear their
defense.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] peer 2 peer

2006-06-23 Thread hank williams

It is not possible. Flash cannot connect to another flash peer for security
reasons. First of all, flash cannot accept incoming requests to connect. It
can only generate connection requests.

It is conceivable that Apollo will do p2p, but if my recollection serves me,
I read that while they are considering it, it would probably not be in a
first release.

Regards,
Hank

On 6/23/06, Thomas Marbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi

has anyone tried making a peer 2 peer client via Flash?  Anyone care
to make an opinion about the possibilities or difficulties?

thanks

Tj

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

Honestly, I think most of the interesting stuff happens in flexcoders,
the as3 list, the open source lists for specific projects.

This *is* the newbie list now... by default.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not saying it's wrong at all, but just if you think it may be a newbie
type question then post it to the appropriate list. Otherwise what's the
point in having 2 lists?

My point really was that this list used to be more about posting
techniques, discoveries, neat tricks - or complex questions, bug
workarounds, undocumented features. We seem to have lost that and moved
on to a bunch of fairly easy to answer (just by googling or checking the
archive, or even god forbid the help docs/live docs) questions. Yes we
can filter them out, but I think they've devalued the core principles
behind this list - hence we seem to have lost key people. Then we end up
in a viscious circle...

M

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Jim Robson
 Sent: 12 June 2006 17:29
 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

 FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years, but
 there are still a lot of things I haven't done. I've built
 some complex apps, but they are business apps (functionality
 revolves around the basic CRUD) intended to be displayed in
 the browser on desktop PCs. So, for example, I've never built
 an app for the pocket PC, I've never built a game, and I've
 done very little with video. If I were to get a new
 assignment in one of these areas, then I might post a
 question that seems like a newbie question to some other
 people on the list. Is it wrong to post such questions? As
 ryanm pointed out, all you need to do is delete the messages
 that don't interest you.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

I  dont mean to offend anyone, but this *is* the newbie list - at
least in part. There is nothing wrong with that. I have never been to
the real newbie list, and would never make it there. Thats probably
true for most of the people who might answer a question (though I
honestly havent done much of that lately due primarily to workload).

But if you are looking for cutting edge stuff that many people
havent thought about before, this is probably no longer the place for
that. Does that make this list a bad place? No. Does it make the
people on it stupid? Hardly. But does it mean that over time you may
look other places for certain types of more advanced or specific
insight? I think so. I think that shows the growth of the flash
platform and nothing more.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Andreas Rønning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit.
The definition of what you find interesting does not have a damn thing
to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant
on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're
saying is you're complaining about the lack of FUN stuff on this list.

Let me tell you a little something about the fun stuff on this list. For
those of use that spend every day of the week doing things that aren't
fun, and aren't necessarily cutting edge, being swamped in dudes doing
shit that's out of your reach NOT because they are necessarily smarter




than you, but because they somehow find the *TIME* to do fun stuff, it
can be bordeline disruptive. I totally dig the fun stuff, but to say the
lack of it is what brings this list down to newbie level is arrogant
and shortsighted.

Elitist bs can stay in the flexcoders and as3 lists kthanks. If a
question is beneath you you got more problems than newbies. Nobody
demands that you answer, so whee, get off the list then.
This thread is bullshit of awesome intensity.

- A
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winter halder)

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

Mark,

I think a bit of confusion. It was in ken's posting, and he put your
name in the subject line. Dave then responded to ken, not you.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/13/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The list is still amazing once you weed out the
  RTFM/Googlables. I just wish that the moderators would do
  this job for us so the overall quality of the list could
  stay amazing.

 You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
 right?

Dave,

I'm well aware of that.
What I'd like to know, since you put my name in the subject line, is
where that quote is from. It certainly isn't from me and it's not from
the list. In fact, the word Googlables, while an interesting
creation, doesn't appear in my mail archives at all.
If you received it off-list, and it had my address as the sender,
please forward it to me with the header intact.

(And thanks Ken!)

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [Flashcoders] Littleloud: Flash Developer Position

2006-06-09 Thread hank williams

Its all about tone.

Hank

On 6/9/06, Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I dont see the problem with them keeping the job email short, and saying
get more info from our website?

Ettwein, Josh wrote:
 Heh.. That's exactly what I was just thinking. Wow...where do I sign up?
 :)

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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Littleloud: Flash Developer Position


 but you really shouldn't have had any problem finding that out by
 looking at our website.


 And these are the nice people you want to work for.  :)

 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions

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Re: [Flashcoders] How does goowy do it? (HTML in Flash)

2006-03-04 Thread hank williams
On 3/4/06, Alan Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 goowy is a desktop app right?


No.

 So they are probly using something like swfstudio or one of the other ones..

 They all let you embed a browser inside the app..

 -aq


 On 3/4/06, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I think they might be using a variation on this idea (but I am not
  sure): http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=95
 
  _David
  Adobe
 
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
   Of Ramon Miguel M. Tayag
   Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:16 AM
   To: FlashCoders Programming
   Subject: [Flashcoders] How does goowy do it? (HTML in Flash)
  
   How do you put an HTML window within the Flash movie?  I
   thought it might be superimposed... but I'm not sure.
  
   --
   Ramon Miguel M. Tayag
   Managing Director
   Quirkworks
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Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted

2006-03-02 Thread hank williams
No, you are wrong :)

If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does
not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away.

Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not
an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I
think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA.

Regards
Hank

On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow
 the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need
 help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The
 problem would persist, am I wrong?

 M.

 On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting
  these prior projects.  Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of
  you have other early RIAs to add, please do so.
 
  Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery
 
  On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the
   time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind
   of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4.
  
   I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where
   I worked) was around before it (and still is)
  
   Alias
  
   On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote:
   
 Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's
 to be
 sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should
 appear to
 outstand the competition in financial strength.
   
Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of
the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since
that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from
getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question
that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty
confident Adobe could knock it down as well.
   
I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made.
   
Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so.
   
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
   
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted

2006-03-02 Thread hank williams
Actually DNA work, drug design, and all that kind of stuff is
incredibly important work that if not protected there would be no
motivation to do.

If someone discovers a gene after spending, say $500 Million, should
someone else be able to come along and spend $1 Million and compete
from the same starting line?

Patents protect innovation. The problem is that innovations, once
accepted by the public, often seem obvious and inevitable. Often they
just **seem** to be obvious, but are not. There are lots of obvious
things that dont catch on and vice versa. Broad acceptance is not the
same as obvious, but many dont understand that distinction.

If someone actually solves any of the biological mysteries that will
help us cure diseases and make life more comfortable, they absolutely
deserve protection.

Regards
Hank

On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Umm, hmm... The genes which comprise breathing should soon be patented then.

 Sighs* ( pun intended )

 M.

 On 3/2/06, Kenneth Kawamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is
  in bleach of the U.S. patent law!
  
  http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html
  
 
  Kenneth Kawamoto
  www.materiaprima.co.uk
 
  On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of
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Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted

2006-03-02 Thread hank williams
Nope. If you invent something and dont patent it within a year of
public disclosure, you loose the right to patent. By the time a patent
is issued for years or so have usually passed so other inventors that
did not file are out of it.

Regards
Hank

On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Understood Hank. Shouldn't it be possible for the 'true inventor' to patent
 their 'invention' once the patent is gone?

 I would research laws around patents, but hell, as important is this
 discussion, I have to get some work done today too.

 M.

 On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No, you are wrong :)
 
  If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does
  not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away.
 
  Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not
  an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I
  think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA.
 
  Regards
  Hank
 
  On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to
  bestow
   the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would
  need
   help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The
   problem would persist, am I wrong?
  
   M.
  
   On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting
these prior projects.  Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of
you have other early RIAs to add, please do so.
   
Here is the link:
  http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery
   
On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at
  the
 time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though.
  Kind
 of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash
  4.

 I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com
  (where
 I worked) was around before it (and still is)

 Alias

 On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote:
 
   Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if
  it's
   to be
   sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft
  should
   appear to
   outstand the competition in financial strength.
 
  Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge
  of
  the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees,
  since
  that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from
  getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any
  question
  that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty
  confident Adobe could knock it down as well.
 
  I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made.
 
  Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more
  so.
 
  --
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  RPSystems, Ltd.
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Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted

2006-03-02 Thread hank williams
lol.

Well said.

Hank

On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We appreciate your careful opinion, it's worth as much as reading the
 opinion of a man who's been huffing glue for six straight days. To my
 understanding, it is none of your concern, as is, you should not concern
 yourself, but you have, starkly, in self contradiction. In conclusion, it's
 probable that not only me is left wondering what it is you're doing right
 now.

 M.

 On 3/2/06, matthibcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Troy Rollins wrote:
 
  
   On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, matthibcn wrote:
  
   what you do oversea...lol...that is definatly your problem...i just
   dont care
  
  
   Thanks. We appreciate the sympathetic attitude among developers. At
   least do us a favor, while laughing. Show prior art.
  
   --
 
  Troy,
 
  if you think I am in the mood to discuss generic patents, I am not. This
  is unacceptable . period
 
  There are thousands of reasons ... share them or dont:
  http://ffii.org/index.en.html
 
  Regards
 
  Matthias Oesterle
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Re: [Flashcoders] Can anyone see my posts?

2006-03-01 Thread hank williams
Yeah, I used to answer lots of questions, but I just dont have the
time anyu more. This is probably also because it seems to me there are
more questions too.

Regards
Hank

On 3/1/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I get that feeling sometimes also- I console myself with the thought that
 the people answering questions are just as swamped as I am and are answering
 in between getting their own questions answered.  True or not - It's good
 for the self esteem.

 M



 On 3/1/06, James Deakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi All my posts get ignored was it something i said?
 
  James
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[Flashcoders] Does anything allow FLV(sorensen or vp6) to mpeg4 for IPOD

2006-02-28 Thread hank williams
I want to be able to take flash video and put it on a video ipod. Is
there any way to do this?

Regards
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Does anything allow FLV(sorensen or vp6) to mpeg4 for IPOD

2006-02-28 Thread hank williams
ffmpeg will create mpeg4, but I dont think it can read vp6. No one has
cracked or created an open or opensource version of a vp6 player. To
use mpeg, someone would have to licence or gain access to a vp6
player, which would then allow ffmpeg to re-encode the video. This
would probably, though not necessarily(deoending on On2's stance),
need to be a commercial product.

I guess I was just wondering if any such commercial products existed.
It seems to me not so great that flash video is a dead end. Given the
popularity of the ipod, a little transcoding goodness would be in
order.

Regards
Hank

On 2/28/06, Simen Brekken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hank williams hank777 at gmail.com writes:

 
  I want to be able to take flash video and put it on a video ipod. Is
  there any way to do this?

 If FFMpeg can't, nothing can :)

 http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/


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Re: [Flashcoders] Attn: John Grden

2006-02-03 Thread hank williams
hmm...

Does John Grden = Manuel Saint-Victor?


On 2/3/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It has not changed- You can email me at this address?

 Sorry- Been kinda swamped this week.


 M

 On 2/3/06, ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I emailed you offlist and didn't get a response, so I'm wondering if
  your email address has changed. Email me, I have a question for you.
 
  ryanm
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Attn: John Grden

2006-02-03 Thread hank williams
It  was a pascal snippet.

Hank

On 2/3/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/3/06, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hank williams schrieb:
   hmm...
  
   Does John Grden = Manuel Saint-Victor?
  
  
 
  you mean like John Grden === Manuel Saint-Victor ?
 
  seems not the case
 
  micha


 Good point Micha,

 I think Hank was setting John to be Manuel.  A typical syntax error, which
 might have evaluated to true in the end, and not to mention it would have
 been tough to debug. :-) Yikes, what a thought.

 Have a great weekend.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Player Version Penetration -- Comparison Stats

2006-02-01 Thread hank williams
Does anyone know exactly what differences there are between 7 and 8
that might make 8.5 adoption faster than 8 adoption? My recollection
is that there is some improvement in 8 in this regard, but I am not
sure.

Regards
Hank

On 2/1/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://web.archive.org/web/20040211234604/http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

 hth,
 mark


 On 2/1/06, Clive Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The recently published stats of Flash Player Version Penetration --
  http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
  -- certainly seem to indicate an impressive adoption rate for the Flash
  8 Player (e.g. 45.2% in the US, and higher in Canada and Europe).
 
  It would be interesting to see the stats for the previous versions in
  the first 3-5 months after their release. Even better, I'd like to see
  the stats for each of the previous two players in their first year. Then
  perhaps we could attempt a rough forecast of how long it might take the
  Flash 8 Player to reach critical mass (which, of course, will vary for
  different developers and clients).
 
  ::. clive
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 Hopes!

2006-02-01 Thread hank williams
There is a new open source language called haXe that has much of what
you are looking for. It is being written by the author of MTASC, the
open source actionscript compiler. It will compile down to code that
runs in a virtual machine on servers (like php), into flash, and into
javascript so that you can write client side ajax code in  an advanced
language. The idea of one language for these three targets is very
appealing. In any case you can check it out at haxe.org.

Regards
Hank

On 2/1/06, Kamyar Nazeri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  List,

 This is great that ActionScript is growing over time and with new AS
 version 3 many OOP concepts are now much easier to implement.
 Creating real encapsulation with new 'final', 'const', 'private' and
 'protected' keywords or true polymorphism with 'override' are great
 features, it was however inconceivable that a modern programming language
 like ActionScript would not use modern OO model, design and technique.

 I would like to share with you concepts that I think need to be
 resolved/added in a language like AS3 for real OO model:

 -Ugly and high risk use of _global is still part of AS3, I don't
 understand why creators of ActionScript made access to language elements
 like global Functions and Constants by placing them all in _global object
 (and I don't know what kind of object it is). Even worse, placing AS2/AS3
 packages and classes as sub-objects of _global when compiled can ruin the
 whole programming model!

 -Ain't inner classes play important role in modern languages like Java or
 C#? In fact they are part of AS language and *are* possible in AS1. I
 wonder why they have omitted inner classes as part of AS2/AS3? (it is only
 compile-time issue)

 -I've always said that 'method signatures' and what is referred to as
 'overloading resolution' should be part of the language so that we can get
 rid of ugly use of 'arguments' object or type checking within methods and
 I've bombarded macromedia wish-list with it, still no success;)

 -Maybe generic programming (that were introduced in JDK 5.0 of Java
 Specification) should be added in the language as they play an important
 role in OO and are desirable because they let you write code that is safer
 and easier to read than code that is littered with Object variables and casts.

 Any thoughts that we can share? Anybody from macromedia/adobe listening?


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Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand(exec, myprogram.exe) WITHOUT a projector?

2006-01-28 Thread hank williams
Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox
violation for the player to be able to execute an app?

Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but
isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work.
The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application.
That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would
imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash
without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to
access.

Regards
hank

On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible?  I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the
 FLash player, then do a save as projector.

 any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector?

 --
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Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Flash Programmer Needed (NYC)

2006-01-27 Thread hank williams
NYC means New York City.

Hank

On 1/27/06, Flash guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question: Where are you located?

 On 1/25/06, Lori Hutchek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Junior Flash Programmer Needed. This job is full-time. Part-time and
  contract will not be considered.
 
  Requirements:
  - Bachelors degree in Computer Science or related degree
  - Must have experience with Flash 8  MX 2004
  - Must know how to program using Actionscript 2.0
  - An understanding of OOP
  - Excellent communication  organization skills
  - Ability to learn quickly in a fast paced environment.
  - Familiar with XHTML, CSS (no WYSIWYG)
  - Knowledge of XML
 
  Pluses:
  - Experience with Video (FLV)
  - Knowledge of other languages such as ASP.NET, Java, and Javascript
 
  Job Description:
  SciMedMedia is seeking a junior flash programmer to help with the
  creation of our pharmaceutical applications. Job will include organizing
  and processing data for our pre-built applications; including debugging,
  upgrading, and maintaining each disk. Applicant should be a team player,
  be very well organized and be able to work in a fast paced environment.
  If you are looking to gain solid work experience with Flash, this is the
  job for you. Recent college graduates are strongly encouraged to apply.
 
  If interested, please send all responses to Lori R Hutchek, Director of
  Multimedia Development ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
  Thank you.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Copying a DataSet

2006-01-13 Thread hank williams
There is no such thing as passing variables by value in flash. Having
a language automatically create major system data structures seems
fraught with the potential for unintended consequences because of the
hierarchical nature of data structures which point to data structures.

 If you want to make a copy, you need to explicitly make a copy of it.
This is not actually so easy if you are not careful. What you really
want to do is create a new dataset and set the dataProvider of the new
dataset to the dataProvider of the old dataset. This will have the
effect of copying everything out of the old dataset into the new one.
The reason for this, which is not obvious, is that the dataprovider
field is really a getter function that copys data (value) rather
than copy's pointers or references.

Regards
Hank

On 1/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can I pass a DataSet byVal and not byRef?  I want to create a second DataSet
 to filter, sort, do some calculations, etc and leave the original DataSet
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Re: [Flashcoders] Copying a DataSet

2006-01-13 Thread hank williams
Yeah, I really meant there is no such thing as passing *complex*
variables in flash, for the reason I explained.

Hank

On 1/13/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Strings and Numbers are passed by val.  Can't remember what else is, though.

 - Original Message -
 From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Copying a DataSet


 There is no such thing as passing variables by value in flash. Having
 a language automatically create major system data structures seems
 fraught with the potential for unintended consequences because of the
 hierarchical nature of data structures which point to data structures.

  If you want to make a copy, you need to explicitly make a copy of it.
 This is not actually so easy if you are not careful. What you really
 want to do is create a new dataset and set the dataProvider of the new
 dataset to the dataProvider of the old dataset. This will have the
 effect of copying everything out of the old dataset into the new one.
 The reason for this, which is not obvious, is that the dataprovider
 field is really a getter function that copys data (value) rather
 than copy's pointers or references.

 Regards
 Hank

 On 1/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can I pass a DataSet byVal and not byRef?  I want to create a second
  DataSet
  to filter, sort, do some calculations, etc and leave the original DataSet
  intact.
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[Flashcoders] How does flash lite 2.0 handle network access

2006-01-03 Thread hank williams
If I want to progressively download an mp3 and then play it, or I just
want to do an http access to grab some data does all of that work.

Thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] How does flash lite 2.0 handle network access

2006-01-03 Thread hank williams
Weyert,

I dont quite understand. I never use frames. So since all my code is
always in the first frame does that mean that for the life of my app I
could only make ten network calls no matter how long it was running?
That would be incredible. If so does this make it impractical to
check the network periodically?

Also, regarding MP3 I understand that if the handset doesnt play mp3
then it wouldnt work. But my main question is just about progressive
download. Is it something that is likely to work. And if so, do the
handsets have a web cache so that things downloaded once are
available?

I guess really what I am trying to figure ot is how feasable it is to
thing about building media apps for flash lite 2.0

Regards
Hank



On 1/3/06, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Hank,

 Flash Lite has a limit on the number of network requests, meaning you
 can only do five per frame and a maximum of ten (was four in 1.1)
 connections at the same time. You should be aware that this means all
 requests including XML.load() or loadVariables etc. The support of mp3
 totally depends on the the host. IF the host doesn't support it, it's a
 no go ;-)

 Yours,
 Weyert de Boer
  If I want to progressively download an mp3 and then play it, or I just
  want to do an http access to grab some data does all of that work.
 
  Thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] How does flash lite 2.0 handle network access

2006-01-03 Thread hank williams
On 1/3/06, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Hank,
  I dont quite understand. I never use frames. So since all my code is
  always in the first frame does that mean that for the life of my app I
  could only make ten network calls no matter how long it was running?
  That would be incredible. If so does this make it impractical to
  check the network periodically?
 
 Well, you are able to do ten simultaneously connections per frame as
 long the memory meets of the device. Keep in mind you are only able to
 do five network requests per frame. Also requests from the local file
 system of the phone counts as a request. The main reason was that these
 requests take up a lot of memory, a thing which is scares/rare on the
 mobile phone.The best thing is to use a altered version of the
 MovieClipLoader to queue requests.

Ok, sorry for being dumb here but I have to ask again. I only use
*one* frame. My code all lives in the first frame. There is never more
than one. So does that mean I get 10 network accesses and I am done -
no more network access ever? Or are you just saying I only have  10
**simultaneous** network accesses. Because 10 simultaneous network
accesses sounds like a lot. I dont think I ever do 10 simultaneous. I
dont think I ever do 5. So that would be fine.

Thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] How does flash lite 2.0 handle network access

2006-01-03 Thread hank williams
Yeah, that sounds right. But I dont know how you could play a sound
if it doesnt support mp3. I wonder what the baseline assumption is for
flash lite and whether you are supposed to be able to assume that the
sound class works normally, by playing mp3s.

Regards
Hank

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 Hi Hank,

 The Sound-class available and his loadSound and/or attachSound()
 methods, that means it supports progressive downloads, right? (Not sure
 at the moment I have the feeling I mixing terms, atm)

 Yours,
 Weyert de Boer

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Re: [Flashcoders] No Key.isDown() method in AS3?

2005-12-28 Thread hank williams
I would suggest reposting this next week when the adobe people get
back from vacation.

Regards
Hank

On 12/28/05, Joe Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I was going over the AS3 documentation and I've noticed that the isDown()
 property was removed for security reasons from the new Keyboard class.
 Is there another way of doing the same thing then? Are we now forced to use
 the event-driven onKeyDown()?

 Here's the page where I'm reading:
 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/migration.html

  
 If this is correct then it sounds like a real pain and possible
 reason for not using
 Flash altogether. I'm currently using isDown() for all sorts of game
 like applications
 including some which rely on several keys being pressed at once.
 Does anyone know whether the new KeyboardEvent object will let you do this
 and if not how do we go about telling Adobe that there's going to be a 
 problem.

 Cheers

 Joe

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Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?

2005-12-23 Thread hank williams
I think its a mac app.

Hank

On 12/23/05, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I downloaded the trial, but what's a .dmg file and how do I unpack it in
 Windows?  Couldn't find any info on their site - and double-clicking the
 file gives me an error - unrecognized file type.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason
 Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:42 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Faster code?
 
 Thanks.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul BH
 Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:31 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?
 
 this is the tool I meant - visDoc / ASDoc were these once the same?
 cant remember... Im having a slow day...
 
 http://www.visiblearea.com/visdoc/
 
 On 12/23/05, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where can I get ASDoc?  Google seems pretty ignorant of it - at
 least as
  a product or software tool.  Or is it an internal-only product
 Adobe
  uses?  Or is it simply a Macromedia standardized HTML format for
 help
  content?
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:flashcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL
  Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:56 AM
  To: Flashcoders mailing list
  Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?
  
  Oh yeah definatly.  Even though Natural Doc's syntax feels more
  straightforward, ASDoc definately has the most beautiful output
 that
  I've
  seen to date.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul BH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Flashcoders mailing list
 flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
  Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?
  
  
  1) I agree, that's why back to my earlier thing, I rarely
 comment
 -
  what ASDoc does do however is provide a way of displaying things
 like
  your method signature in a friendly HTML like manner, with a
 handy
  index down the side. When I do comment, it would be to explain
 some
  hackery, or something that wasnt obvious - within a function,
 this
  wouldnt get picked up, if it was something like a paramenter
 only
  being in an allowable range, I would comment that in a way that
 ASDoc
  picks up...
  
  2)Hehe if I couldnt do that, it would be nirvana-esque... I
 never
 said
  that this document wouldnt change - the key thing here is to
 make
 sure
  that the change is captured in one place and one place alone...
 ie
 -
  when business changes the specification, this is reflected in my
 unit
  tests (as they are one  the same document), and thus my test
 suite
  know about it straight away...
  
  On 12/23/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   1.  ASDoc just generates comments from your code.  If your
 code
  comments
   aren't up to date, neither is your generated asdocs.
  
   2. If you could coerce a client to sign a document saying that
  business
   requirements never change... hell dude, I'm hiring you
 fulltime
 to
  work
   for
   me!
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Paul BH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Flashcoders mailing list
 flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
   Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:31 AM
   Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?
  
  
   I'm so glad I opened such a juicy can of worms just before
 Christmas
  ;)
  
   I just want to throw one more thing into the mix before I
 dissappear
  off
   to
   numb
   my family reunion with hefty doses of alcohol...
  
   So, now I think my comments before about, erm comments still
 stand.
  I
   see comments differently to documentation, so I'll just add my
   tuppence to this and retire to eat drink  be merry...
  
   I think some (many)? people dont document because they cant be
  arsed.
   Why is this the case? We'll, again, I think it comes down to
  changing
   requirements, and the fact that I hate having the same
 information
  in
   two places, as at some point one will get out of date...
  
   How to manage this, and at the same time make your code easy
 to
   understand?
  
   This is how we are approaching it / looking to approach it...
  
   1) Documentation of individual methods within classes is done
 using
   ASDoc which gets triggered whenever a file gets checked into
 source
   control -- your documentataion is generated from your class
 file,
  and
   is *always* up to date with your checked in class file...
  
   2) We are looking into using a thing called FIT
 (http://fit.c2.com/)
   What this does is tie in business requirements with unit
 tests.
 The
   business (ie the client) basically write their specifications
 (or
  are
   assisted with it) in a word document. 

Re: [Flashcoders] Faster code?

2005-12-22 Thread hank williams
Jesse's comments about how his code is basically disposable (my word)
is interesting.

I think it reflects the nature of flash and its history.

For example I am working on a fairly complex project. I have been
working on it for more than a year. It has lots of pieces that
interact. And what happens is that I get one piece working. Then it
has to interact with another piece that I get working, so I have to go
back and fix the first piece. And so on. This also relates to ongoing
desires to improve the performance of code and to add features.

But what is interesting to me is every time I go back to a piece of
code I have to relearn it. I do try to comment, and each time I go
back, my comments get better because I see what I needed to comment
the last time I was in the code.

Basically, when I go back into an unfamiliar block of code, I find
myself often refactoring. It helps me to re-understand the code but
it also it has this funny effect of improving the quality of code. And
each time I do this I add or edit the documentation.

Of course I am writing primarily business logic and algorithms, not
screen display/UI code which is probably more disposable.

And I think this is my point. This issue really does depend not only
on the size of the project but the type of code it is. The closer you
are to the edge of the application, the less important documentation
is. Flash and even flex have typically been more UI code than business
logic which is often on the server. The more business logic that ends
up on the client, the more durable and less disposable the client code
will need to be.

In other words, as flash becomes a real software development platform,
real development methodologies will become more important.

Regards
Hank


On 12/22/05, ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Very well said Paul.  Couldn't agree more - mind you this is coming from
  a guy who still writes crappy code.  :)
 
 Don't get the wrong idea, I still write my share of crappy, last minute,
 hacked-together code. But I do try to at least drop a comment in there to
 explain why it's so ugly. ;-)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash is a single-threaded app? Maybe it's just the AVM? or...

2005-12-13 Thread hank williams
I cant share the full actual code because it is dependent on too many
things. I have tried to pull a snippet out and edit it to make it
understandable.

The idea here is that I have a block of data called
m_in_videoStorage_generic.items which needs to be processed. The
processing is too slow and I cant make it faster. I want it to happen
in the background. So I created an interval to do a little bit of
processing each time the interval is hit, and to broadcast an event
when all of the data is processed. This concept can probably be turned
into a generic class by passing in the function that gets periodically
processed. That function would just have to obey certain rules about
keeping track of how much it gets done each slice.

In the below code m_genericSyncOffset is how far we have gotten
through the array, and k_sliceSize is how many items to process in
each cycle through the array. So the key to my concept is being able
to break up long operation into a collection of more mamageable
chunks. Sometimes this is not possible, but often it is.

Regards
Hank

CODE:
---

private static k_sliceSize:Number = 10;
private static m_genericSyncOffset:Number;

private function syncGenericStorage():Void{
m_genericSyncOffset = 0;
m_genericStorageIntID = 
setInterval(this,syncGenericStorageSlice,1);
}

private function syncGenericStorageSlice():Void{

var generic:Array = m_in_videoStorage_generic.items;
var loopMax:Number = generic.length;
var i:Number;

if (loopMaxm_genericSyncOffset+k_sliceSize)
loopMax = m_genericSyncOffset+k_sliceSize;

for (i=m_genericSyncOffset;iloopMax;i++){
var item:Object = generic[i];

// *** PROCESS DATA IN generic HERE ***

}

if (i=generic.length){

//messageWire is just a class I created that is a type 
of event system
//if I want to notify some other piece of my system 
about a given
//even, I publish that even and anyone who is 
subscribed to that even
//is notified. This could be done with a standard event.

// pseudo code: m_messageWire.publish( tell system data 
is processed);

clearInterval(m_genericStorageIntID);
}
else
m_genericSyncOffset = i;
}

---

On 12/13/05, Meinte van't Kruis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sounds interesting, would like to have a peek at the code.
 Do you have it online somewhere to share?

 thx,
 Meinte

 On 12/12/05, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There is some truth to this, but parf of good architecture is about
  tailoring what you have to what you need. In my current application, I
  have a collection of data that needs to be processed. Under certain
  circumstances I actually get the dialog box about the app running
  slowly.
 
  So what I did was to make this data processing chunkable, and then I
  use setInterval to calculate pieces of it at a time. I was thinking
  about the concept of a separate swf but this turned out to be easier.
 
  So I guess my point is just that threading would be nice. I use it
  sparingly in my java side work. But I do find that it is generally
  possible to do what you want to do in a single threaded flash player.
 
  Regards
  Hank
 
  On 12/12/05, Meinte van't Kruis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I don't see how UI lock can be effectively solved using actionscript. It
   seems to me multithreading in AS would be very fancy, and anything fancy
   that isn't native just slows things down even more in my opinion.
  
   On 12/8/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
It scares me too, but so does UI lock, something that's been happening
to me a lot lately.
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash is a single-threaded app? Maybe it's just the AVM? or...

2005-12-12 Thread hank williams
There is some truth to this, but parf of good architecture is about
tailoring what you have to what you need. In my current application, I
have a collection of data that needs to be processed. Under certain
circumstances I actually get the dialog box about the app running
slowly.

So what I did was to make this data processing chunkable, and then I
use setInterval to calculate pieces of it at a time. I was thinking
about the concept of a separate swf but this turned out to be easier.

So I guess my point is just that threading would be nice. I use it
sparingly in my java side work. But I do find that it is generally
possible to do what you want to do in a single threaded flash player.

Regards
Hank

On 12/12/05, Meinte van't Kruis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't see how UI lock can be effectively solved using actionscript. It
 seems to me multithreading in AS would be very fancy, and anything fancy
 that isn't native just slows things down even more in my opinion.

 On 12/8/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It scares me too, but so does UI lock, something that's been happening
  to me a lot lately.
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and ASP.NET

2005-12-09 Thread hank williams
I am not a user so I am not an expert on flashorb. But as I understand
it, weborb is just the most recent version that, along with handling
flash remoting also does ajaxy stuff.  I believe the free version is
the standard edition. If you cant find the weborb, I think the
flashorb standard edtion is fine since all that weborb does is add
support for ajaxy stuff.

Regards
Hank

On 9 Dec 2005 17:54:42 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 between flashorb pro, flashorb standard and weborb and the fact their news 
 doesn't link to the item the news is talking about I was a little confused on 
 what to download, is weborb professional for .net the free thing ?  I could 
 find a weborb standard in the downloads section...

 grant

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 Sent: 12/7/05 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flash and ASP.NET

  www.flashORB.com  has a free .NET remoting product.
 
  Regards
  Hank
 
  On 12/7/05, Michael Appelmans  wrote:
   I need to create a Flash application for a small non-profit can't afford 
   the
   $999 price tag of MM's Flash Remoting gateway. Is there a third party
   remoting solution like AMFPHP that I could use? Essentially I need to read
   and write to an Access database on a Windows web host.
  
   Thanks for any suggestions and pointers to examples for this.
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-08 Thread hank williams
Of course, in thinking about this, with the new binary socket
functionality, midi control could all be done by just writing a simple
localhost to midi gateway. This would be pretty simple to do, and is
probably what is needed anyway to deal with different drivers etc. And
it makes total sense that if you want to control some local hardware
that you need to download a piece of software.

problem solved!!  :)

Regards
Hank

On 12/8/05, Martin Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is another side which would be great to open up.

 It would be amazing to integrate flash with MIDI controllers and audio
 software. I've thought of many interfaces to control audio which would
 be a lot easier to create in flash.

 Also i can imagine some amazing interactive work combining flash and the
 jazz mutant lemur.

 mmm, the lemur...

 http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php



 Jason Cunliffe wrote:
  oops, I forgot to include links to the I-CUBEX set of MIDI sensors
 
  http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/all_categories.php?osCsid=540ddd8aa0ac63e6fb8054c988afefd4
 
 
  and to Alcorn McBride Show Control equipment
  http://www.alcorn.com/products/showcontrol/index.html
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-08 Thread hank williams
Yeah, I guess you really dont need binary for this although it might
be a tad more efficient. But the data is really pretty low bandwidth
so a XML socket server would be fine. And you are right it would be a
nice to have in flash. Its just that I recently setup a small studio
and everything seems to need a driver. I just wonder how
comprehensive/seamless a system built into flash could be. I dont know
much about how midi works on the pc and whether the OS already has a
kind of internal midi bus so that app developers dont need to worry
about compatibility. If all that is already there then it could be
done in flash wihout any compatibility issues.

Regards
Hank

On 12/8/05, Martin Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sure, it can already be done without binary sockets using a simple xml
 socket based server which translates whichever protocol to and from XML,
 for instance theres already flosc, a flash / java solution for OSC
 communication, and the same idea can be done for MIDI...but it would
 just be nice to minimise the number of pieces in the puzzle. :)

 still, my main interest is still in getting better sound in flash itself.

 I agree with you in that i see no reason not to allow access to the
 sound buffer of flash itself. Its no different from writing bitmap data.

 thanks,

 Martin

 hank williams wrote:
  Of course, in thinking about this, with the new binary socket
  functionality, midi control could all be done by just writing a simple
  localhost to midi gateway. This would be pretty simple to do, and is
  probably what is needed anyway to deal with different drivers etc. And
  it makes total sense that if you want to control some local hardware
  that you need to download a piece of software.
 
  problem solved!!  :)
 
  Regards
  Hank
 
  On 12/8/05, Martin Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is another side which would be great to open up.
 
 It would be amazing to integrate flash with MIDI controllers and audio
 software. I've thought of many interfaces to control audio which would
 be a lot easier to create in flash.
 
 Also i can imagine some amazing interactive work combining flash and the
 jazz mutant lemur.
 
 mmm, the lemur...
 
 http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php
 
 
 
 Jason Cunliffe wrote:
 
 oops, I forgot to include links to the I-CUBEX set of MIDI sensors
 
 http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/all_categories.php?osCsid=540ddd8aa0ac63e6fb8054c988afefd4
 
 
 and to Alcorn McBride Show Control equipment
 http://www.alcorn.com/products/showcontrol/index.html
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-08 Thread hank williams
Well, its basically what tyler describes but using binary sockets
instead of xml sockets. The binary socket is just more efficient. I am
not sure what the issues are in implementing any of this since I am
not a midi guru, so I cant provide to much detail. Sounds like tyler
knows what he is talking about.

Regards
Hank

On 12/8/05, Jason Cunliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hank

 Can you expand on that idea please. Sounds interesting...

 thanks, Jason

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 To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:26 PM
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 Of course, in thinking about this, with the new binary socket
 functionality, midi control could all be done by just writing a simple
 localhost to midi gateway. This would be pretty simple to do, and is
 probably what is needed anyway to deal with different drivers etc. And
 it makes total sense that if you want to control some local hardware
 that you need to download a piece of software.

 problem solved!!  :)

 Regards
 Hank


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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I think midi support would be nice. In truth though, the question is a
little broader than midi. It would be great if there were a sandbox
safe way to access USB and/or firewire devices. Midi is but one. It
would need to work something like the way that the webcam access works
where the software asks the user if it is ok for the user to access a
given device.

I certainly think midi should be an important part of any such
initiative, but I see it kinda like giving us binary sockets. We need
the machine internal equivalent to binary sockets.

On another note I also think, particularly with the speed of 8.5, that
it would be great to give us direct access to the sound buffer. I am
not sure how fast 8.5 math will be but if you can do a good FFT we
could be making actual synthesizers and audio processors in flash. To
me that would be cool.

Regards
Hank

On 12/6/05, Tyler Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Flash Player has evolved through the ages to provide the most needed
 functionality.  Through each version there have always remained a few common
 goals.  What I have found is that:

 Flash is small -- from the player itself to the swf file format to the
 assets it is optimized to load, focus has been placed on small file sizes
 (this of course is not as apparent in many websites that are heavy in
 multimedia)

 Flash supports standards -- the player supports many web and multimedia
 formats standard in the industry, such as jpg, mp3 and xml

 Flash is interactive -- the players greatest strength is the dynamic
 behavoir through ActionScript to allow user interactivity

 MIDI, a music standard format that most computers support today, fits all of
 these categories (like a glove).  In fact there's an opensource project
 being developed to allow MIDI through Flash, though it requires an
 additional download and install to the user apart from the Flash Player
 itself (seen at osflash.org)

 I'd like to take a poll.  Do you think MIDI should be included in the Flash
 Player?  Why or why not?  I want both votes and opinions as I'll organize
 the results and send them off to Adobe, formerly known as
 Macromediahttp://www.macromedia.com.
 Please respond with some sort of opinion whether it's pro or con.  I'll list
 the pros/cons I can think of below (you don't have to read the rest of this
 email if you already have your opinion).

 A little more on MIDI:
 MIDI is a standard music format (some will argue that it's the
 onlystandard) that represents pitches and instruments to be played as
 a song.
 It's extremely small, being the vector of music, and has to be interpreted
 by a users soundcard.  Almost all computers these days support standard
 MIDI, though it sounds synthesized (especially on the voice and string
 instruments).  Some soundcards or additional software transform the common
 MIDI into amazing orchestrations, but most users don't have this advanced
 playback.

 MIDI pros:
 can be generated dynamically and played through a sequencer to allow
 complete on-the-fly customization of sound.
 very small in filesize
 supported by almost all soundcards
 numerous applications for the creation of MIDI songs (many are free)
 it's a standard that has been around for a long time (so there is a lot of
 support for it)
 a small implementation (wouldn't increase the Flash Player size by more than
 50K)

 MIDI cons:
 most people will have a more synthesized sound
 user experience isn't guarenteed to be consistant (for those with higher
 quality soundcards)
 as with all advancements, could make it really easy for developers to have
 annoying sounds playing on their sites ;)

 In short, if the Flash Player had a midi sequencer built in it would allow
 developers to create lightweight interactive music applications, such as this
 sheet music rendering application http://mediarain.com/musicrain or music
 creation applications.  It could also allow users to experience a website
 that contained sound effects or decent background music at very little
 bandwidth cost.  Formerly know as Macromedia has always been good about
 listening to the developer community and will surely make efforts to build
 the features we need, if we tell them.  This is your forum.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
 the 8.5 player already has an FFT (aka sound spectrum) function built
 in, but i think its buggy (this is what i have read, ive not tried it yet)


Are people currently trying to do sound related stuff?

Hank

 :)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
Thanks, but could you give me a little overview of what that is. There
is only code with no description.

Thanks
Hank

On 12/7/05, Robert A. Colvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.richapps.de/?p=23

 check it out..;)

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  the 8.5 player already has an FFT (aka sound spectrum) function built
  in, but i think its buggy (this is what i have read, ive not tried it
 yet)
 

 Are people currently trying to do sound related stuff?

 Hank

  :)
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I was just about to say it sounds like a browser, but with the ability
to capture apps and content sychronize data, work offline and keep
applets automatically up to date.

I think its basically central, but in a UI that looks more like a browser.

Regards
Hank

On 12/7/05, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by
  combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated
  runtime.

 How does this differ from a browser?

 M
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Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It
is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate
browser plugins for pdf and swf.

Regards
Hank

On 12/7/05, Chad Mefferd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gone are the days of a lightweight flash player.

 On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Mike Mountain wrote:

  Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by
  combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated
  runtime.
 
  How does this differ from a browser?
 
  M
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Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
Yex, it is apollo. I just didnt use the code word. But that is what I
am referring to.

Regards
Hank

On 12/7/05, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/7/05, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It
  is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate
  browser plugins for pdf and swf.

 it might be apollo, of which i know almost nothing about, but which
 apparently is swf+html and now possibly + pdf?

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Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
 I wouldn't call it a central tho. Hopefully the file size will remain
 small or only marginally increase.


The new client is called apollo. As far as I know it *is* the new
unified client that they are talking about that does flash + html +
pdf.

Apollo *is*, among other things, the follow on to central. This is not
a browser plug in but a stand alone environment.

Regards
hank



 Judah

 hank williams wrote:

 This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It
 is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate
 browser plugins for pdf and swf.
 
 Regards
 Hank
 
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 Gone are the days of a lightweight flash player.
 
 On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Mike Mountain wrote:
 
 
 
 Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by
 combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated
 runtime.
 
 
 How does this differ from a browser?
 
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[Flashcoders] Garbage collecting Sounds and NetStreams

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I have implemented a media player that plays a series of either sounds
or NetStreams.

I do not reuse sound or netStream objects  when I play a new one. Each
time a new piece of media is played a new corresponding NetStream or
Sound is created.

The problem is that it seems that even when there are no more
references to it, the sounds or NetStreams are not released. I say
this because every time a new piece of media is played, my memory
usage gets bigger. It doesnt ever seem to shrink.

So I am wondering if anyone is aware of any issues with releasing a
NetStreams or Sounds from memory.

Regards
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Re: [Flashcoders] Who wants MIDI in the Flash Player?

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I dont understand. Are you saying that raw sockets is a security
nightmare? or bytearrays?  or the sound buffer access? Raw sockets and
bytearrays are already in flash 8 so are you saying there is already a
security nightmare? Or are you saying that sound buffer access would
somehow tip the scales into a security nightmare? If so, how? It seems
to me that that is no more dangerous than giving developers direct
access to the screen display buffer which they now do already in flash
8.

Regards
Hank

On 12/7/05, ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Personally i would rather see a more open, low level approach to sound in
  the player upon which MIDI and other implementations could be developed.
 
 Normally, I am all about giving flexibility to the developer, but raw
 sockets + byteArray + laccess to the sound buffer would be a security
 nightmare. It's like a big welcome mat for viruses. I wouldn't hold my
 breath.

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