Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Ginneberge
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC Main problem that I see with the code that was posted is that it breaks a major MVC rule and teaches a real bad habit: Views shouldn't have any knowledge of Models

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-17 Thread Ross Sclafani
- Original Message - From: jchilc...@interactivityunlimited.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC Main problem that I see with the code that was posted is that it breaks a major MVC rule

[Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Ross Sclafani
From: Ross Sclafani ross.sclaf...@gmail.com Date: February 16, 2012 2:39:34 AM EST To: Cor c...@chello.nl Cc: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com, flashcoder...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MVC feel free to hit me up any time ill try to have time to respong none the less, this

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Beatrix Krümmer-Frau
perfect! Can I use this for my Flash students? Am 16.02.2012 08:59, schrieb Ross Sclafani: From: Ross Sclafaniross.sclaf...@gmail.com Date: February 16, 2012 2:39:34 AM EST To: Corc...@chello.nl Cc: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com, flashcoder...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Excellent job. I have one small point, on a practical level. For the views, in particular, I don't usually pass arguments to the constructor. It's not such a big deal for code-only examples, but in my flash world I mix my components between stuff created dynamically and things created in the

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread tom rhodes
traditional vanilla MVC tends to use composition like the example given, check out robotlegs if you don't like it :) then you inject dependencies instead of passing them around and everything gets a bit more loosely coupled... On 16 February 2012 11:46, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Andrews
On 16/02/2012 10:54, tom rhodes wrote: traditional vanilla MVC tends to use composition like the example given, check out robotlegs if you don't like it :) then you inject dependencies instead of passing them around and everything gets a bit more loosely coupled... It's not a question of not

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Andrews
On 16/02/2012 11:11, Paul Andrews wrote: On 16/02/2012 10:54, tom rhodes wrote: traditional vanilla MVC tends to use composition like the example given, check out robotlegs if you don't like it :) then you inject dependencies instead of passing them around and everything gets a bit more loosely

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread tom rhodes
um, Ross gave it i think dude. i didn't give any code examples :) maybe you missed the smiley after i said if you don't like it, perhaps shoudl have been a ;). what problems do you have using assets mad ein the IDE with mvc? On 16 February 2012 12:21, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Andrews
On 16/02/2012 12:04, tom rhodes wrote: um, Ross gave it i think dude. Yes, I posted a correction.. i didn't give any code examples :) maybe you missed the smiley after i said if you don't like it, perhaps shoudl have been a ;). what problems do you have using assets mad ein the IDE with mvc?

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Ross Sclafani
I have a fuller framework that details a view life cycle, subModels, a Controller tree, animated transitions on change() and more. The classes I wrote are just the simplest examples that I thought would get people started. I'll get the framework polished up and open sourced to Github if you guys

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Ross Sclafani
Absolutely. Good MVC should be taught at birth. Ross P. Sclafani Owner / Creative Director Neuromantic Industries http://www.neuromantic.com http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani 347.204.5714 On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Beatrix Krümmer-Frau birik...@hotmail.de wrote:

RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Cor
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ross Sclafani Sent: donderdag 16 februari 2012 14:28 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC I have a fuller framework that details a view life cycle, subModels, a Controller tree, animated

RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread jchilcott
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RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread jchilcott
: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC From: Cor c...@chello.nl Date: Thu, February 16, 2012 8:39 am To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Ross, And you did get people started. At least me! I am also very interested in your fuller framework. I don't wish to use the big frameworks as RobotLegs

RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-16 Thread Cor
Sent: donderdag 16 februari 2012 15:07 To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC (UGH... I hate RTF Web editors) RobotLegs is not a big framework at all. In comparison with most of the other frameworks out there, it's overhead is far far less than ones like Cairngorm, Spring