Re: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fontsfordifferent language sets

2007-07-19 Thread Dennis - I Sioux

Now i think of it..
I believe the character extending program works with indexes where you can 
place/draw the character.. to get the right index/spot where a new character 
should go in a font i believe we compared it with Arial.. the reason was 
that Arial was pretty complete.


Not sure what the program was called though.. (designer is on vacation 
aswell).. if you can't find any just give a call.. then i'll look it up for 
you.


With kind regards,

Dennis
Isioux

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fontsfordifferent 
language sets




Hey Michael,

For a big european platform i have a multilanguage application that has 11 
languages in it now.
English, Dutch, German, French, Spanish, Portugees, Italian, Polish, 
Swedish, Denish and for Norway.


I remember collecting info from sites like listed below:

http://www.unicode.org/charts/
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/csettables.html
http://www.biega.com/special-char.html
http://www.tony-franks.co.uk/UTF-8.htm

In flash 7 (was big project.. so mutch work to turn to flash cs :-D ) .. 
i'm using the following sets:

-Uppercase

-Lowercase
-Numerals
-Punctuation
-Basic Latin
-Latin I
-Latin Extended A
-Latin Extended Add'l


Mind that i'm not using the  -Latin Extended B.

So far we had no complaints with that not being enough characters..
Some fonts we had to extend though.. you got small programs for that.. 
easy enough to extend the special fonts you'r using.
Don't remember if we had to extend Arial though.. i believe it pretty 
mutch covered everything.

Don't know about Greek either though..

Hope this helps you along..

With kind regards,

Dennis
I Sioux




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From: Michael Ypes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fonts fordifferent 
language sets




By the lack of feedback do I take it that no one is knowledgeable on this
topic???

Any help would be appreciated or pointers to some information on this. I
can't believe I am the only person on this list that has had to make an
application for Europe!

I have searched myself but with no luck.

Cheers

M

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
Ypes

Sent: 18 July 2007 16:20
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fonts for different
language sets

I am implementing a multilingual site for all the European countries and 
I
am creating separate font libraries for which I will just load the right 
one
based on the locale. From what I can gather there are four main ones 
which

is Latin, Armenian, Cyrillic and Greek. The question I am asking is what
font sets do you embed for the particular language set. I am using the 
Arial

font as that tends to have all the necessary glyphs and have embedded the
characters as shown below. Now this works but I feel I am using a sledge
hammer to crack a nut as I am not sure what languages use which and
therefore I am embedding the latin into the other character sets which I 
am

assuming is not needed. Any help, advice or pointers to information
regarding this would be fantastic.

The font sets I am embedding are as follows - are these right, wrong or 
just

plain ridiculous??##!!

Latin language settings

-Uppercase
-Lowercase
-Numerals
-Punctuation
-Basic Latin
-Latin I
-Latin Extended A
-Latin Extended B
-Latin Extended Add'l

Armenian language settings

-Uppercase
-Lowercase
-Numerals
-Punctuation
-Basic Latin
-Latin I
-Latin Extended A
-Latin Extended B
-Latin Extended Add'l
-Armenian

Cyrillic language settings

-Uppercase
-Lowercase
-Numerals
-Punctuation
-Basic Latin
-Latin I
-Latin Extended A
-Latin Extended B
-Latin Extended Add'l
-Cyrillic

Greek language settings

-Uppercase
-Lowercase
-Numerals
-Punctuation
-Basic Latin
-Latin I
-Latin Extended A
-Latin Extended B
-Latin Extended Add'l
-Greek


Thanks in advance :)

Michael


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RE: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fontsfordifferent language sets

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Ypes
Thanks Dennis

This app needs 28 countries, i.e. the whole of Europe which is why we are
using Arial as it has the full character set needed including Armenian,
Cyrillic and Greek. It's just that I wanted to split it into its different
locales so that countries did not need to load in unwanted/unneeded font
sets. However I have just been informed that the company will need the latin
font set to a certain extent as they will want to include there
brand/product names which are all in latin. So for the other languages, i.e.
Cyrillic, Armenian and Greek I shall embed only the basic latin along with
Upper/Lower, punctuation and numerals along with their specific language
set. I am hoping that should cover it...

I did do a project a few months ago which got translated from English to
welsh and we had problems with the font. The font was a bespoke handwritten
font which did not have the welsh character of a y with a hat/circumflex
so if you know of a bit of software that enables you to extend a character
set then I would definitely like to know. It was an absolute nightmare
converting all that text into another font...

Cheers

M

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis - I
Sioux
Sent: 19 July 2007 10:51
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fontsfordifferent
language sets

Now i think of it..
I believe the character extending program works with indexes where you can 
place/draw the character.. to get the right index/spot where a new character

should go in a font i believe we compared it with Arial.. the reason was 
that Arial was pretty complete.

Not sure what the program was called though.. (designer is on vacation 
aswell).. if you can't find any just give a call.. then i'll look it up for 
you.

With kind regards,

Dennis
Isioux

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis - I Sioux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fontsfordifferent 
language sets


 Hey Michael,

 For a big european platform i have a multilanguage application that has 11

 languages in it now.
 English, Dutch, German, French, Spanish, Portugees, Italian, Polish, 
 Swedish, Denish and for Norway.

 I remember collecting info from sites like listed below:

 http://www.unicode.org/charts/
 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/csettables.html
 http://www.biega.com/special-char.html
 http://www.tony-franks.co.uk/UTF-8.htm

 In flash 7 (was big project.. so mutch work to turn to flash cs :-D ) .. 
 i'm using the following sets:
 -Uppercase
 -Lowercase
 -Numerals
 -Punctuation
 -Basic Latin
 -Latin I
 -Latin Extended A
 -Latin Extended Add'l

 Mind that i'm not using the  -Latin Extended B.

 So far we had no complaints with that not being enough characters..
 Some fonts we had to extend though.. you got small programs for that.. 
 easy enough to extend the special fonts you'r using.
 Don't remember if we had to extend Arial though.. i believe it pretty 
 mutch covered everything.
 Don't know about Greek either though..

 Hope this helps you along..

 With kind regards,

 Dennis
 I Sioux




 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Ypes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:26 AM
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fonts fordifferent

 language sets


 By the lack of feedback do I take it that no one is knowledgeable on this
 topic???

 Any help would be appreciated or pointers to some information on this. I
 can't believe I am the only person on this list that has had to make an
 application for Europe!

 I have searched myself but with no luck.

 Cheers

 M

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
 Ypes
 Sent: 18 July 2007 16:20
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Language expert on embedding fonts for different
 language sets

 I am implementing a multilingual site for all the European countries and 
 I
 am creating separate font libraries for which I will just load the right 
 one
 based on the locale. From what I can gather there are four main ones 
 which
 is Latin, Armenian, Cyrillic and Greek. The question I am asking is what
 font sets do you embed for the particular language set. I am using the 
 Arial
 font as that tends to have all the necessary glyphs and have embedded the
 characters as shown below. Now this works but I feel I am using a sledge
 hammer to crack a nut as I am not sure what languages use which and
 therefore I am embedding the latin into the other character sets which I 
 am
 assuming is not needed. Any help, advice or pointers to information
 regarding this would be fantastic.

 The font sets I am embedding are as follows - are these right, wrong or 
 just
 plain ridiculous??##!!

 Latin language settings

 -Uppercase
 -Lowercase