Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use ofAdobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
Jason Merrill >> Doing something just for spite in the business world is not >> really all that smart. It may not be smart business wise, but when a someone attacks you so bluntly, its not bad form to stand up for yourself. Companies making decisions on whats most profitable (like Jobs & Adobe, sure) *tends* to be a bad thing for the consumer. Its this type of mentality that helps makes the United States a crappy place for consumers and a great place for business. If it were me running Adobe, I would try in some way to publicly humiliate Jobs and Apple through use of reason, logic, economics and most of all human relevance. Then, give them the middle finger and start acting like a real company should; with dignity, pride, honesty, and care for the products, services, and customers that make my business survive. ( Cause we all know Adobe has its own flaws) :) Ktu P.S. *odd thoughts* from a young individual, who happens to be an Apple hater. You and your iDrone can go play in the ocean, and when the rip tide sucks you in over and over again, you won't ask for help, cause you have an iDrone and don't need saving. Please, for my sake, mis-interpret what I am saying and why, so that you can bash me just like I bashed the Apple fanboys. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Mark Winterhalder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Merrill, Jason > wrote: > > What you may see happen is consumers getting tired of not > > having Flash on their iPhone and switching to an Android phone. > > Which is why I can't wait to see FP 10.1 and AIR on Android. If it's > done well, it will tear the technical-reasons veil right from Job's > face and consumers will begin asking questions. > > Instead of pulling CS for OSX, Adobe should try to port it to Linux > instead. I know that's easier said than done, but it would send a > strong signal, also to other companies, that Linux has become a viable > alternative. > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use ofAdobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: > What you may see happen is consumers getting tired of not > having Flash on their iPhone and switching to an Android phone. Which is why I can't wait to see FP 10.1 and AIR on Android. If it's done well, it will tear the technical-reasons veil right from Job's face and consumers will begin asking questions. Instead of pulling CS for OSX, Adobe should try to port it to Linux instead. I know that's easier said than done, but it would send a strong signal, also to other companies, that Linux has become a viable alternative. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use ofAdobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
>> Adobe should announce after cs5 that cs6 will be pc and linux only That would be cool. However, Adobe reacting by completely pulling its product line from Mac OS would have their stockholders in an uproar. Plus, as my co-worker Matt pointed out, Adobe themselves are primarily a Mac OS shop. They have a "deliver to as many platforms as possible" strategy - like you see with the Flash player on multiple desktop OSs and mobile devices. I think Adobe will throw some punches, as they have been, but they have to be careful, and pulling their Mac OS product line is not something you will see them do. Businesses are 99% motivated by profits. Adobe would never pull their Mac product line - it's a cash cow for them. Doing something just for spite in the business world is not really all that smart. That's why you see companies who are both suing each other and partnering on things, like Adobe and Apple have done in the past. What you may see happen is consumers getting tired of not having Flash on their iPhone and switching to an Android phone. But as for the Flash export to iPhone OS, consumers could care less what language it was built in, they just want a good product. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning & Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use ofAdobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
One of the links I read quoted someone in saying something like, Apple dictating you have to develop with Objective-C is like Microsoft saying you can only use MS Paint to do artwork. That's a little extreme, but from what I have seen of Objective-C as a language, I think there is some truth to that. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning & Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 5:39 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use ofAdobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler >> Peter Elst: >> http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers- >> this-time-its-personal/ > "apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal" > > It does feel personal: > 1. Apple want to lock you into their products. > 2. They can't force consumers, so they force developers. > 3. Their products have a lot of competition now. > 4. Apple versus freedom, is a no brainer. > > What to do? > > Write great apps with Flash. > > Don't buy an iPhone. > > John We have to forget iPhones. Good HTC are coming out. As it was said on another list, there should be a bunch of application developpers HEROES that get together and build this killer app the iphone won't have. Btw, what's your stence on Objective C dev for the iPhones/iPads. Do you really think EA, Ubi, Gameloft do develop their games using Objective C ? Cedric ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
