RE: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-12 Thread Sunil Jolly
Hi,

I would recommend ARP for this too. It's a bit tricky to use (at first),
but it will keep your code clean for sure and save you a lot of time.
There's a remoting example that you could adjust quite easily.

As for the moviecliploader, I try to use a single class to do all my
loading. I guess that's what you mean by a smart loader. 

Sunil
http://www.suniljolly.com

PS - Hi! I'm new to the list, I hould have joined a long time ago!

-Original Message-

Hi,

I would suggest looking at ARP or another Framework to handle your 
Service calls through a single interface which you create services for.

It is well documented with examples and OS so you should be able to 
get the hang of it quite quickly.

osflash.org/projects/arp

HTH

Glen

Richard Mueller wrote:

 I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very 
 heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service 
 connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in 
 the root timeline where any loaded move can access them.  The latter 
 would cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  But 
 by putting the Service connections in each movie would require imports

 needed for FR at the top..

 Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning 
 properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart loader?  
 Meaning use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag with

 zag.swf.  Or should I just accept, and get in the habit of using a zip

 loader and a zag loader separately, meaning each loader simply serve a

 specific function.

 Richard


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RE: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-12 Thread Richard Mueller


Well, the past 24 hours have been interesting to say the least.  I've never 
really written a class, yet I know a lot about them and understand them for 
the most part.  Before starting the project, I knew I was going to run into 
data access issues but didn't really have a solution.  I'd never heard of 
mvc until yesterday so thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I'm 
confident I can start building classes using the mvc pattern, however, I 
don't think I'm quite ready for something like ARP.  I think I'd be taking 
on too much and our development resources are almost tapped.  Or should I 
seriously reconsider using ARP, is it something I can easily implement 
later once I'm more confident with classes?



At  7/12/2007 Thursday 04:00 AM, you wrote:

Hi,

I would recommend ARP for this too. It's a bit tricky to use (at first),
but it will keep your code clean for sure and save you a lot of time.
There's a remoting example that you could adjust quite easily.

As for the moviecliploader, I try to use a single class to do all my
loading. I guess that's what you mean by a smart loader.

Sunil
http://www.suniljolly.com

PS - Hi! I'm new to the list, I hould have joined a long time ago!

-Original Message-

Hi,

I would suggest looking at ARP or another Framework to handle your
Service calls through a single interface which you create services for.

It is well documented with examples and OS so you should be able to
get the hang of it quite quickly.

osflash.org/projects/arp

HTH

Glen

Richard Mueller wrote:

 I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very
 heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service
 connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in
 the root timeline where any loaded move can access them.  The latter
 would cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  But
 by putting the Service connections in each movie would require imports

 needed for FR at the top..

 Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning
 properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart loader?
 Meaning use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag with

 zag.swf.  Or should I just accept, and get in the habit of using a zip

 loader and a zag loader separately, meaning each loader simply serve a

 specific function.

 Richard


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Re: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-12 Thread eka

Hello :)

An other framework it's VEGAS : http://code.google.com/p/vegas/

Install the framework   :
http://code.google.com/p/vegas/wiki/InstallVEGASwithSVN
The tutorials in english :
http://code.google.com/p/vegas/wiki/TutorialsVEGAS (in progress)
Examples in the svn repository of the project :
http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/vegas/AS2/trunk/bin/test/

My framework contains 4 extensions + 1 template framework + examples...

To manipulate Remoting connection you can use my RemotingService class, you
can find the examples of this class in the directory :

http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/vegas/AS2/trunk/bin/test/asgard/net/remoting/

(You must install vegas before test the .fla )

If you want understant the RIA structure with VEGAS you can install to AST'r
: http://code.google.com/p/astr/

AST'r is a template + samples to understand the implementations with VEGAS
(MVC, FrontController, Localization, Configuration, Process etc)

In Ast'r you can find a full example to use Remoting or local connection
(with Eden format)... I'm begin to write the tutorials of this examples this
week-end.

For me this tutorials are important to learn the mecanism to implement a
little or big application...

EKA+ :)

2007/7/12, Richard Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Well, the past 24 hours have been interesting to say the least.  I've
never
really written a class, yet I know a lot about them and understand them
for
the most part.  Before starting the project, I knew I was going to run
into
data access issues but didn't really have a solution.  I'd never heard of
mvc until yesterday so thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I'm
confident I can start building classes using the mvc pattern, however, I
don't think I'm quite ready for something like ARP.  I think I'd be taking
on too much and our development resources are almost tapped.  Or should I
seriously reconsider using ARP, is it something I can easily implement
later once I'm more confident with classes?


At  7/12/2007 Thursday 04:00 AM, you wrote:
Hi,

I would recommend ARP for this too. It's a bit tricky to use (at first),
but it will keep your code clean for sure and save you a lot of time.
There's a remoting example that you could adjust quite easily.

As for the moviecliploader, I try to use a single class to do all my
loading. I guess that's what you mean by a smart loader.

Sunil
http://www.suniljolly.com

PS - Hi! I'm new to the list, I hould have joined a long time ago!

-Original Message-

Hi,

 I would suggest looking at ARP or another Framework to handle your
Service calls through a single interface which you create services for.

 It is well documented with examples and OS so you should be able to
get the hang of it quite quickly.

 osflash.org/projects/arp

 HTH

 Glen

Richard Mueller wrote:
 
  I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very
  heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service
  connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in
  the root timeline where any loaded move can access them.  The latter
  would cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  But
  by putting the Service connections in each movie would require imports

  needed for FR at the top..
 
  Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning
  properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart loader?
  Meaning use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag with

  zag.swf.  Or should I just accept, and get in the habit of using a zip

  loader and a zag loader separately, meaning each loader simply serve a

  specific function.
 
  Richard
 

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[Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-11 Thread Richard Mueller


I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very 
heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service 
connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in the 
root timeline where any loaded move can access them.  The latter would 
cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  But by putting 
the Service connections in each movie would require imports needed for FR 
at the top..


Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning 
properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart loader?  Meaning 
use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag with zag.swf.  Or 
should I just accept, and get in the habit of using a zip loader and a zag 
loader separately, meaning each loader simply serve a specific function.


Richard




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Re: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-11 Thread Glen Pike

Hi,

   I would suggest looking at ARP or another Framework to handle your 
Service calls through a single interface which you create services for.


   It is well documented with examples and OS so you should be able to 
get the hang of it quite quickly.


   osflash.org/projects/arp

   HTH

   Glen

Richard Mueller wrote:


I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very 
heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service 
connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in 
the root timeline where any loaded move can access them.  The latter 
would cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  But 
by putting the Service connections in each movie would require imports 
needed for FR at the top..


Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning 
properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart loader?  
Meaning use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag with 
zag.swf.  Or should I just accept, and get in the habit of using a zip 
loader and a zag loader separately, meaning each loader simply serve a 
specific function.


Richard




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Re: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting MovieClipLoader

2007-07-11 Thread Muzak
More specifically, look for the ServiceLocator. It's a Singleton that houses 
all the remote services.
Then from anywhere in your app you can do something like this:

var service:Service = ServiceLocator.getInstance().getService(nameOfService);
var pendingCall:PendingCall = service.someMethod();
pendingCall.responder = new RelayResponder(this, resultHandler, 
faultHandler);

In an ARP/Cairngorm application you would normally do this from a Command 
class, rather than anywhere in your app.

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Cairngorm
http://cairngormdocs.org/
visual representation of a cairngorm app
http://cairngormdocs.org/cairngormDiagram/index.html

other mvc frameworks
http://puremvc.org/
http://www.model-glue.com/flex.cfm

Note that allthough most of them talk about flex, don't let that scare you, 
they're all MVC based and are very similar.

regards,
Muzak


- Original Message - 
From: Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Application Structure - Flash Remoting 
MovieClipLoader


 Hi,

I would suggest looking at ARP or another Framework to handle your Service 
 calls through a single interface which you create 
 services for.

It is well documented with examples and OS so you should be able to get 
 the hang of it quite quickly.

osflash.org/projects/arp

HTH

Glen

 Richard Mueller wrote:

 I'm building an application that is going to use Flash Remoting very 
 heavily.  I'm wondering how I should structure my Service 
 connections.  Should I put them in each(several) loaded movies or in the 
 root timeline where any loaded move can access them. 
 The latter would cause issues when trying to test each movie individually.  
 But by putting the Service connections in each movie 
 would require imports needed for FR at the top..

 Also, I'm new to using the moviecliploader.  I have a few functioning 
 properly, however, is it wise to try and create a smart 
 loader?  Meaning use one loader and zip when the zip.swf is loaded and zag 
 with zag.swf.  Or should I just accept, and get in the 
 habit of using a zip loader and a zag loader separately, meaning each loader 
 simply serve a specific function.

 Richard


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