Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-18 Thread Flash Mel

Hey Andy, thanks for the reply.  What I was looking for was a help site that
talks about how to setup Eclipse properly.  I showed a buddy of mine my
setup and he said it wasn't right - too bad he didnt set his up, he works
with some real good flash devs that helped him out.  looking around at
screenshots of other dev's eclipse workspace and I'm realizing I'm way off
track with how to setup eclipse for use with my projects.

=\




On 7/14/06, Andy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of
sites below...

http://www.gotoandlearn.com/
http://www.ultrashock.com/
http://www.flashkit.com
http://actionscript.org
http://www.kirupa.com
http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/
http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php

I Hope this helps. -Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using SciTEFlash
forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of managing
my
projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.

ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to
setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but for
regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\

Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin
writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.

Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If
this
might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk.

Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.

fM.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-18 Thread Flash Mel

No Java unforunately.
I have the plugs for eclipse.  they seem to work well.  I just have my
projects setup all wrong.  using import com.mproject.somefile.as doesn't
work.  AND in the projects folder on the left i don't just see code files, I
see the .fla's the .swf's etc.  so I know i have something wrong here...

=\

osflash isn't very helpful.  i tried, but it doesn't go through and show you
how to setup a project.


fM

On 7/15/06, Ed Staub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Flash Mel,

I'm maybe one step ahead of you here. I was watching the responses, hoping
to learn something.
No such luck.

It looks to me like you probably come from a Java background - yes?

Here's what I THINK is true - hopefully this will provoke someone to
correct
me who knows more.  Take everything here with a grain of salt.

1.) The best Flash debugger for normal development is, unfortunately,
Macromedia's.  There are none in the Eclipse plug-ins.

2.) For unit testing, the most-recommended component seems to be
As2Unit.  I
haven't tried it.  It's only available in compiled form, which gives me
pause.  This seems to be the most-recommended package, but there are many
others.  One that appears to have quite a bit of momentum is AsUnit
(http://asunit.org/) - I'd definitely check it out.  If you find something
you like, please drop me a line.

3.) I didn't see which plug-in you're using.  I tried FDT, since several
sites will tell you it's the best plug-in for AS development, but have a
few
issues:

a. It's a commercial product - they want around $250 for it.  There's a
30-day trial
b. Nothing's been updated since last fall.
c. It has a problem with F8 library organization - it doesn't support the
automatic switch-in of F8 or F7 depending on context.
d. The web site is slow to the point of unusability - I think it is
severely
throttled.
e. Email bounces
f. Given the state of the website, I'd be scared to death to try to pay by
credit card there.

Based on all this, I switched to FlashDevelop (not Eclipse at all - it's
.NET, in fact!).  So far, so good - it's fast, slick, intuitive, and there
appears to be quite a bit of developer momentum in plugins, etc.

In trying to find out what's going on, keep a close eye on WHEN something
was recommended.  What was best a year ago often isn't the best now.

The site that seems most relevant to your questions wasn't on the list
another responder sent earlier.
   http://www.osflash.org

Good luck,

-Ed Staub






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RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-18 Thread Andy Stone
Yeah I was way off, sorry. After my post I realized what you were talking
about and installed it. I'm now researching how to integrate it with Flex
swfmill and MTASC to hopefully speed up my work flow. I hope you figured it
out. -A



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:12 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

Hey Andy, thanks for the reply.  What I was looking for was a help site that
talks about how to setup Eclipse properly.  I showed a buddy of mine my
setup and he said it wasn't right - too bad he didnt set his up, he works
with some real good flash devs that helped him out.  looking around at
screenshots of other dev's eclipse workspace and I'm realizing I'm way off
track with how to setup eclipse for use with my projects.

=\




On 7/14/06, Andy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of
 sites below...

 http://www.gotoandlearn.com/
 http://www.ultrashock.com/
 http://www.flashkit.com
 http://actionscript.org
 http://www.kirupa.com
 http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/
 http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php

 I Hope this helps. -Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

 Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using SciTEFlash
 forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of managing
 my
 projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.

 ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to
 setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but for
 regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\

 Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin
 writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.

 Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If
 this
 might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk.

 Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.

 fM.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-18 Thread Flash Mel

Hey Steven thanks, I'll check that as well!

m.

On 7/14/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you liked SciTE, you should check out Flash Develop.

http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/

It launches in like 2 seconds and has tons of great features.  It's
still in development, but it's coming along nicely.  It supports all the
file types you edit when working in Flash.

Sorry for hijacking your thread.



BLITZ | Steven Sacks - 310-551-0200 x209

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Stone
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:41 PM
 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

 There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few
of
 sites below...

 http://www.gotoandlearn.com/
 http://www.ultrashock.com/
 http://www.flashkit.com
 http://actionscript.org
 http://www.kirupa.com
 http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/
 http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php

 I Hope this helps. -Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash
Mel
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

 Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using
SciTEFlash
 forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of
managing
 my
 projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.

 ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to
to
 setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but
for
 regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\

 Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can
begin
 writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.

 Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If
 this
 might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google
talk.

 Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.

 fM.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-15 Thread Ed Staub
Flash Mel,

I'm maybe one step ahead of you here. I was watching the responses, hoping
to learn something.
No such luck.

It looks to me like you probably come from a Java background - yes?

Here's what I THINK is true - hopefully this will provoke someone to correct
me who knows more.  Take everything here with a grain of salt.

1.) The best Flash debugger for normal development is, unfortunately,
Macromedia's.  There are none in the Eclipse plug-ins.

2.) For unit testing, the most-recommended component seems to be As2Unit.  I
haven't tried it.  It's only available in compiled form, which gives me
pause.  This seems to be the most-recommended package, but there are many
others.  One that appears to have quite a bit of momentum is AsUnit
(http://asunit.org/) - I'd definitely check it out.  If you find something
you like, please drop me a line.

3.) I didn't see which plug-in you're using.  I tried FDT, since several
sites will tell you it's the best plug-in for AS development, but have a few
issues:

a. It's a commercial product - they want around $250 for it.  There's a
30-day trial
b. Nothing's been updated since last fall.  
c. It has a problem with F8 library organization - it doesn't support the
automatic switch-in of F8 or F7 depending on context.
d. The web site is slow to the point of unusability - I think it is severely
throttled.
e. Email bounces
f. Given the state of the website, I'd be scared to death to try to pay by
credit card there.

Based on all this, I switched to FlashDevelop (not Eclipse at all - it's
.NET, in fact!).  So far, so good - it's fast, slick, intuitive, and there
appears to be quite a bit of developer momentum in plugins, etc.  

In trying to find out what's going on, keep a close eye on WHEN something
was recommended.  What was best a year ago often isn't the best now.

The site that seems most relevant to your questions wasn't on the list
another responder sent earlier.  
   http://www.osflash.org 

Good luck,

-Ed Staub




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[Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-14 Thread Flash Mel

Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using SciTEFlash
forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of managing my
projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.

ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to
setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but for
regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\

Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin
writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.

Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If this
might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk.

Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.

fM.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-14 Thread Andy Stone
There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of
sites below...

http://www.gotoandlearn.com/
http://www.ultrashock.com/
http://www.flashkit.com
http://actionscript.org
http://www.kirupa.com
http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/
http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php

I Hope this helps. -Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using SciTEFlash
forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of managing my
projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.

ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to
setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but for
regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\

Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin
writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.

Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If this
might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk.

Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.

fM.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)

2006-07-14 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
If you liked SciTE, you should check out Flash Develop.

http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/

It launches in like 2 seconds and has tons of great features.  It's
still in development, but it's coming along nicely.  It supports all the
file types you edit when working in Flash.

Sorry for hijacking your thread.



BLITZ | Steven Sacks - 310-551-0200 x209

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Stone
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:41 PM
 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
 
 There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few
of
 sites below...
 
 http://www.gotoandlearn.com/
 http://www.ultrashock.com/
 http://www.flashkit.com
 http://actionscript.org
 http://www.kirupa.com
 http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/
 http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php
 
 I Hope this helps. -Andy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash
Mel
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
 
 Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday.  I've been using
SciTEFlash
 forever and it has served me well.  But I needed a better way of
managing
 my
 projects and the projects of the other flash developer here.
 
 ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to
to
 setting up and testing movies.  Not just for class files either, but
for
 regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie.  =\
 
 Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can
begin
 writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!!  =]   One day soon.
 
 Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated.  If
 this
 might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google
talk.
 
 Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post.
 
 fM.
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