RE: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread Palmer, Jim
Dave has it right - the only issue on browser dependency I've found was with
sending hefty packets via the xmlhttprequest... beyond the browser actually
supporting the call in the first place.

The biggest hurdle I found was the space character being presented as a "+"
character when using Safari.

Another bit - for debugging xmlhttprequest I found the "firebug" extension
for firefox to be very powerful.

--
Jim Palmer ! Mammoth Web Operations

> Yeah, pretty much. There's very little about using 
> XmlHTTPRequest that's
> browser-dependent. If you're doing anything significant with 
> the data you
> return via AJAX, that's where you're more likely to run into browser
> dependency issues, and this won't help with that.
> 
> Of course, one of the reasons for AJAX's current popularity 
> is that browsers
> are much more compatible than they used to be. We've been 
> writing apps that
> use the same sort of functionality for many years, but it's 
> only recently
> that you can do it without a lot of code explicitly to deal 
> with browser
> differences.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread Dave Watts
>  Lol. So the whole thing about their code eliminating the 
> differences between browsers is huey huh?!

Yeah, pretty much. There's very little about using XmlHTTPRequest that's
browser-dependent. If you're doing anything significant with the data you
return via AJAX, that's where you're more likely to run into browser
dependency issues, and this won't help with that.

Of course, one of the reasons for AJAX's current popularity is that browsers
are much more compatible than they used to be. We've been writing apps that
use the same sort of functionality for many years, but it's only recently
that you can do it without a lot of code explicitly to deal with browser
differences.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread hank williams


AJAX programming is not hard at all, as long as you know JavaScript and a
server-side programming language. There's no need to have your server-side
programming language return XML, either, so this is a solution in search
of
a problem.




Lol. So the whole thing about their code eliminating the differences
between browsers is huey huh?!

Thats funny. Well *they* seem to think they have done something really good.
At least they are amusing themselves. Of course I would love to hear their
defense.

Hank
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RE: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
AJAX is just a buzzword anyway.  The methodology has been around
forever.  

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RE: [Flashcoders] Fjax... does this seem ridiculous to anyone els e?

2006-06-23 Thread Dave Watts
> Of course I am not an ajax programmer, but if its as hard as 
> they say, and if it makes it easier for ajax programmers to 
> code then why not?

AJAX programming is not hard at all, as long as you know JavaScript and a
server-side programming language. There's no need to have your server-side
programming language return XML, either, so this is a solution in search of
a problem.

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