Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
Is the latest version of swhx = 1.0.4? Scott On 10/19/06, Nicolas Cannasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://haxe.org/swhx While I think it's probably a decent OS product, it seems a little behind the curve at this point. When I inquired as to how I could change the icon for the executable, I was directed to hack the .EXE in a resource editor. You will be happy to know that latest version enables you to change the icon without such troubles ;) Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
Nicolas, How DO you change the icon? ;) Scott On 10/19/06, Nicolas Cannasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://haxe.org/swhx While I think it's probably a decent OS product, it seems a little behind the curve at this point. When I inquired as to how I could change the icon for the executable, I was directed to hack the .EXE in a resource editor. You will be happy to know that latest version enables you to change the icon without such troubles ;) Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
http://haxe.org/swhx While I think it's probably a decent OS product, it seems a little behind the curve at this point. When I inquired as to how I could change the icon for the executable, I was directed to hack the .EXE in a resource editor. You will be happy to know that latest version enables you to change the icon without such troubles ;) Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
What did you find in Director that was lacking in these other projector tools? Well, a fully featured programming language for a start :) It depends a lot I suppose on exactly what you are trying to achieve. Initially, some things can be more labour intensive in Director (for instance, full screen functionality will need to be coded rather than simply 'set'). Obviously though, once you've done it once... Director's MIAWs can be invaluable, especially if you are trying to build a 'desktop mate'. Although there are some differences, it is a very good cross platform solution. You can set title bar text and icon using Lingo. etc etc etc Mike mentions that you have to buy Xtras. This can be seen as a huge pro - any functionality that isn't currently available can be plugged in. Also, there are a *lot* of free Xtras available out there. Finally (on Xtras), if there isn't one available that provides the functionality you require, you can always roll your own. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: 18 October 2006 19:13 All you need with Director for OS level control is BuddyAPI. There is another extra to disable certain key combos (like CTRL+ALT+DEL, etc.) for kiosk purposes but the name of the xtra escapes me; Indeed. And if you are only going to use 2 of it's methods, you don't have to pay for the pleasure. FileIO Xtra is free and also provides a lot of system level interoperability. Steven - I don't think it's the one you are talking about, but I recently came across a nice (free) little Xtra - 'quitMsg', which intercepts quit events (escape, ALT+F4, close button), so allowing you to determine what happens when a user tries to quit. Make no mistake - it can be awkward, Director has a number of, erm, lets be kind and idiosyncratic behaviour traits that sometimes need to be allowed for and coded around (example - the 'resizeWindow'event handler fires when you restore down a window, but not when you restore up). On the whole though, I find it robust, extensible, and *fun* to work with! Cheers, Pete This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
Regarding mProjector: think it has quite a good support for system windows Is there an easy way to add min / max buttons to the window? By default it seems to come up only with a close button! Scott On 10/17/06, Adrian Ionut Beschea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used mProjector while developing an im chat client and I had little problems with it. Comes with loads of samples and support forum is prompt. I for one, think it has quite a good support for system windows and it's all synchonus meaning you don't have to add event listeners for anything. Not even when chooosing folders. Zinc is already as 3.0, though :-) slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know from reading this list that Steven is really into mProjector. I'm looking at acquiring a projector builder for Flash in our company. Our current task is to create executable CD apps / presentations, but it would be nice to have a system to create desktop apps (ala SpringBox), as well. How do people think mProjector stacks up against Zinc? Zinc seems to have better support for system windows, while mProjector seems more attuned to custom flash windows. Guess I'd like both, as we have corporate clients who'll want to see regular system windows containing the content. Sorry if this is off topic. Scott On 10/5/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: it would need to be a full screen projector file Why would it need to be a full screen projector file? mProjector's alpha performance on Windows is the best there is. http://www.thespringbox.com/ uses mProjector and has alpha transparency. If you want to be able to move something around the screen, you can move it around the screen by setting the window's x and y position. You don't need to make it a full screen application. If you want multiple things to appear in different places anywhere on the screen, you open up new mProjector windows and communicate to those using mProjector's API. It's all supported and well documented. You don't need to make it a full screen application to achieve those things. :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
The problem I found with Director is you have to go out and buy a bunch of Xtras to really achieve anything notable. Have you considered ScreenweaverHX? M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of slangeberg Sent: 17 October 2006 17:58 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc Peter, I had considered Director, as we have that here. What did you find in Director that was lacking in these other projector tools? Scott On 10/17/06, Blumenthal, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there's a *big* difference in price, but lately I've been coming back around to using Director for Flash based apps that need decent OS level capability... Pete This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Mike Mountain wrote: The problem I found with Director is you have to go out and buy a bunch of Xtras to really achieve anything notable. Have you considered ScreenweaverHX? Interesting. I hadn't seen that. Is anyone using this? http://haxe.org/swhx -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
The problem I found with Director is you have to go out and buy a bunch of Xtras to really achieve anything notable. All you need with Director for OS level control is BuddyAPI. There is another extra to disable certain key combos (like CTRL+ALT+DEL, etc.) for kiosk purposes but the name of the xtra escapes me; it's been awhile. Other than those two, what else do you need? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
http://haxe.org/swhx While I think it's probably a decent OS product, it seems a little behind the curve at this point. When I inquired as to how I could change the icon for the executable, I was directed to hack the .EXE in a resource editor. Not that that is a deal breaker, but leads me to think that if such an essential feature of a system application tool is missing, what else was left out? ps. Editing the icon for the .EXE was a failure for me! I believe that ResEditor told me that I needed an XX-bit icon, which i was unable to create. Sorry - too much troubles. I like quick and easy!! Scott On 10/18/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Mike Mountain wrote: The problem I found with Director is you have to go out and buy a bunch of Xtras to really achieve anything notable. Have you considered ScreenweaverHX? Interesting. I hadn't seen that. Is anyone using this? http://haxe.org/swhx -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
I know from reading this list that Steven is really into mProjector. I'm looking at acquiring a projector builder for Flash in our company. Our current task is to create executable CD apps / presentations, but it would be nice to have a system to create desktop apps (ala SpringBox), as well. How do people think mProjector stacks up against Zinc? Zinc seems to have better support for system windows, while mProjector seems more attuned to custom flash windows. Guess I'd like both, as we have corporate clients who'll want to see regular system windows containing the content. Sorry if this is off topic. Scott On 10/5/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would need to be a full screen projector file Why would it need to be a full screen projector file? mProjector's alpha performance on Windows is the best there is. http://www.thespringbox.com/ uses mProjector and has alpha transparency. If you want to be able to move something around the screen, you can move it around the screen by setting the window's x and y position. You don't need to make it a full screen application. If you want multiple things to appear in different places anywhere on the screen, you open up new mProjector windows and communicate to those using mProjector's API. It's all supported and well documented. You don't need to make it a full screen application to achieve those things. :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
I used mProjector while developing an im chat client and I had little problems with it. Comes with loads of samples and support forum is prompt. I for one, think it has quite a good support for system windows and it's all synchonus meaning you don't have to add event listeners for anything. Not even when chooosing folders. Zinc is already as 3.0, though :-) slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know from reading this list that Steven is really into mProjector. I'm looking at acquiring a projector builder for Flash in our company. Our current task is to create executable CD apps / presentations, but it would be nice to have a system to create desktop apps (ala SpringBox), as well. How do people think mProjector stacks up against Zinc? Zinc seems to have better support for system windows, while mProjector seems more attuned to custom flash windows. Guess I'd like both, as we have corporate clients who'll want to see regular system windows containing the content. Sorry if this is off topic. Scott On 10/5/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: it would need to be a full screen projector file Why would it need to be a full screen projector file? mProjector's alpha performance on Windows is the best there is. http://www.thespringbox.com/ uses mProjector and has alpha transparency. If you want to be able to move something around the screen, you can move it around the screen by setting the window's x and y position. You don't need to make it a full screen application. If you want multiple things to appear in different places anywhere on the screen, you open up new mProjector windows and communicate to those using mProjector's API. It's all supported and well documented. You don't need to make it a full screen application to achieve those things. :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
Hi Scott, As I've said a number of times on this list, the problem that I've had with Zinc is that they've twice broken (different) features in the product with new releases - features that I've relied upon. And whole version numbers have passed before they've released fixes to those newly introduced bugs. Zinc/Multidmedia seem to have a philosphy of releasing lots and lots of new features without properly fixing existing bugs or any sort of decent regression testing. Don't get me wrong, it's a feature-full product. But if you don't need all those fancy features, I'd advise against going for it purely on the grounds of stability. Cheers, Ian On 10/17/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know from reading this list that Steven is really into mProjector. I'm looking at acquiring a projector builder for Flash in our company. Our current task is to create executable CD apps / presentations, but it would be nice to have a system to create desktop apps (ala SpringBox), as well. How do people think mProjector stacks up against Zinc? Zinc seems to have better support for system windows, while mProjector seems more attuned to custom flash windows. Guess I'd like both, as we have corporate clients who'll want to see regular system windows containing the content. Sorry if this is off topic. Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
I know there's a *big* difference in price, but lately I've been coming back around to using Director for Flash based apps that need decent OS level capability... Pete This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Projectors - mProjector vs. Zinc
Peter, I had considered Director, as we have that here. What did you find in Director that was lacking in these other projector tools? Scott On 10/17/06, Blumenthal, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there's a *big* difference in price, but lately I've been coming back around to using Director for Flash based apps that need decent OS level capability... Pete This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
