Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
We've been running IE 7 Beta in our labs and we not experiencing any requirements to activate the ActiveX. Our experiments use the normal object/embed code approach and also the FlashObject (http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/) approach. Yet, we still haven't had a case where the activation was necessary. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Hi, Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] This among other things affect Flash very much, as Microsoft writes: Some windowed controls use Windows API functions, such as GetKeyState and GetCursorPos, to determine the state of the keyboard and mouse and then respond to the function results. For these controls only, a prompt appears before the control is run in Internet Explorer. To run the control, the user needs to click the button in the message window before the page loads. After loading, the control will not require activation. At present, the following controls have this behavior, but the vendors are working on new controls that would not have this behavior. * Virtools™ Web Player from Virtools SA * Macromedia Shockwave Player™ from Adobe Systems Inc. * QuickTime™ from Apple Computer, Inc. When loaded from external script files, these controls do not display a prompt. This page[2] also addresses, how you should properly embed ActiveX in the future to circumvent this warning. I do not see anything on the Adobe/Macromedia sites addressing this issue - but an update to the latest player will probably come soon. Just a heads-up for you all - this will be an issue soon, as people start updating :) And then again, Microsoft might win an appeal, so this won't be an issue after all. [1]http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1895907,00.asp [2]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/activating_activex.asp -- Morten Barklund - Information Architect - TBWA\Play Gothersgade 49, 4th floor - DK-1123 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 7027 2227 - Fax: +45 3369 1174 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] Sorry all, it seems to be old news (December 2005), so maybe it isn't an issue after all. Can anyone confirm this? -- Morten Barklund - Information Architect - TBWA\Play Gothersgade 49, 4th floor - DK-1123 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 7027 2227 - Fax: +45 3369 1174 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Firefox forever.. This definitely will be an issue. One reason why I use Flash is because it [used to] work[s] , afaik, fine in all browsers - Opera, FF, IE, Safari, unlike AJAX where there seem to be a lot of glitches in Opera. Another of course is the warranted eye candy. This is bad news indeed. -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
I installed the update to check this out - I can confirm the behaviour described before: basically the activation means an additional click on every SWF before it can capture certain key and mouse events. There are ways to have the controls automatically activated (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/activating_activex.asp) but they involve Javascripting your object tag (using innerHTML or document.createElement - a simple document.writeln won't do obviously)... I don't know if this will really be a major problem, but there are certainly cases where you don't want to or cannot script your object tag... Jörg. Morten Barklund TBWA\Play schrieb: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] Sorry all, it seems to be old news (December 2005), so maybe it isn't an issue after all. Ah, the new development is, that MS has finally shipped this new version of IE[1] with these changes. So it will be a problem from now on. [1] http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1932304,00.asp And when performing an update of my XP Pro, I do get this update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945 Very interesting in deed! (if anyone wanna join my monologue, feel free to do so) -- Get Firefox! Safer, Faster, Better! http://www.getfirefox.com _ joerg.mueller TEL +49.89.36092940 | 00101100 guerickestr. 21 MOBILE +49.177.2763132 | 01011000 80805 muenchen E-MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 11101101 germany| 00010100 ¯ (1) mathematics is the language of nature. (2) everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. (3) if you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. therefore: there are patterns everywhere in nature. - Max Cohen in the motion picture PI. 6002735243859695900984383847384738493549540494854985854954343 8153849612424579962314521362548659362125145554785112332546927 9530206508381538496124245799623145213625485066002735243850098 8473849354954049485498585495854395499953020650838153849612312 6254850660027352438596959009843838473847384935495404948543323 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: I do not see anything on the Adobe/Macromedia sites addressing this issue - but an update to the latest player will probably come soon. What search terms did you use? Reason I ask is that, if it couldn't be easily found, we may have to seed that page with search terms people are using. It seems like a hard issue to search for overall, though :( (eolas is a reasonable unique search term, but I understand that, for various arcane legal reasons, it will not appear in this material itself. Terms like microsoft internet explorer or activex return too many hits. It's a tricky search to set up.) The older Macromedia Active Content Center was revived and updated for the new implementation last week: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ Here are some of the more recent weblog postings I've had on this news: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/03/ie_activex_chan.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/02/ms_browser_chan.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/12/ms_post-eolas_u.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/12/eolas_re-re-re-.cfm jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
