Re: [Flashcoders] Question: FMS 2 and CMS managed FLV files
On Apr 4, 2007, at 2:54 PM, john robinson wrote: So the Flash front-end gets this path from the CMS, correct? If that's the case, then in your Java application, you you then copy the actual flv somewhere like so: "FMS/applications/myApplication/streams/347/filename.flv" That's one problem I have to overcome. The files that FMS would read (or any streaming solution that can run alongside Tomcat) cannot be copied to some 'streaming' directory. We're talking about hundreds of hours of broadcast footage that need to be organized in a specific way. The paths would need to be dynamically generated by the CMS and those paths fed to the streaming server. With the path you provided, you should be able to rip it apart in Flash and build the correct FMS path from there. Does that help at all? You shouldn't need to setup virtual paths at all. If you do need to setup virtual paths, I believe the FMS has an admin service that you could call from your Server-side AS to add those virtual paths dynamically as needed. I thought of doing some server-side AS but then I run into the problem that each separate asset is contained in a separate folder along with all it's transformations - thumbnails, 00:00:10 FLV previews, storyboard jpg sequences, etc. I'd hate to have to add virtual paths all over the place. Anyhow, I think my question at this point is probably well OT for the list so I'll see if I can find a FMS list or something where I can pose the question. I've never used FMS (from an administrative standpoint) so it'll be an interesting learning experience. thanks for the help john. jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Question: FMS 2 and CMS managed FLV files
On Apr 4, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:34 PM, john robinson wrote: On Apr 3, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Jon Bradley wrote: I've got a bit of a question that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Can Flash Media Server 2 take dynamic paths to FLV content? As long as the path exists, then yeah it should be fine. I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly though. Are you saying you'll get a path like below from the CMS? "someserver.com/flash/videos/somefolder/somevideo" If that path exists on the FMS, then it shouldn't be a problem at all. A bit different actually. The CMS system and application we are building is written with Java running on Apache Tomcat. File system paths will be stored like follows: serverURL/fileServlet/filename.flv?GET_ITEM_ID=347&TransformationID=234 So the Flash front-end gets this path from the CMS, correct? If that's the case, then in your Java application, you you then copy the actual flv somewhere like so: "FMS/applications/myApplication/streams/347/filename.flv" With the path you provided, you should be able to rip it apart in Flash and build the correct FMS path from there. Does that help at all? You shouldn't need to setup virtual paths at all. If you do need to setup virtual paths, I believe the FMS has an admin service that you could call from your Server-side AS to add those virtual paths dynamically as needed. John Where the item id is a link to the metadata of the asset stored in a database and the transformation id is the transformed file from that asset. Our servers (flip factory, etc) will generate low res previews and a high res FLV from the original asset, which is mpeg-2. I can probably build a direct path on the HD to the file, but from what I gather, you need to edit virtual paths in FMS for it to recognize the location of the files. I can't do this because each 'asset' is a collection of files, including the FLV I want to stream. Each asset is a folder basically and there may be lots of 'em - 10s of thousands. I don't know. Maybe it's server-side AS that grabs the path from the client side application (also flash) and somehow uses it to retrieve and stream the file. This is definitely unchartered AS territory for me. I'm testing the dev edition of FMS to get a grips on whether or not it'll be best for the job. Red5 or some other tomcat-type installation of a streaming server may be a better selection as I look into it more. thanks, jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Question: FMS 2 and CMS managed FLV files
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:34 PM, john robinson wrote: On Apr 3, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Jon Bradley wrote: I've got a bit of a question that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Can Flash Media Server 2 take dynamic paths to FLV content? As long as the path exists, then yeah it should be fine. I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly though. Are you saying you'll get a path like below from the CMS? "someserver.com/flash/videos/somefolder/somevideo" If that path exists on the FMS, then it shouldn't be a problem at all. A bit different actually. The CMS system and application we are building is written with Java running on Apache Tomcat. File system paths will be stored like follows: serverURL/fileServlet/filename.flv?GET_ITEM_ID=347&TransformationID=234 Where the item id is a link to the metadata of the asset stored in a database and the transformation id is the transformed file from that asset. Our servers (flip factory, etc) will generate low res previews and a high res FLV from the original asset, which is mpeg-2. I can probably build a direct path on the HD to the file, but from what I gather, you need to edit virtual paths in FMS for it to recognize the location of the files. I can't do this because each 'asset' is a collection of files, including the FLV I want to stream. Each asset is a folder basically and there may be lots of 'em - 10s of thousands. I don't know. Maybe it's server-side AS that grabs the path from the client side application (also flash) and somehow uses it to retrieve and stream the file. This is definitely unchartered AS territory for me. I'm testing the dev edition of FMS to get a grips on whether or not it'll be best for the job. Red5 or some other tomcat-type installation of a streaming server may be a better selection as I look into it more. thanks, jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Question: FMS 2 and CMS managed FLV files
On Apr 3, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Jon Bradley wrote: I've got a bit of a question that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Can Flash Media Server 2 take dynamic paths to FLV content? As long as the path exists, then yeah it should be fine. I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly though. Are you saying you'll get a path like below from the CMS? "someserver.com/flash/videos/somefolder/somevideo" If that path exists on the FMS, then it shouldn't be a problem at all. john ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Question: FMS 2 and CMS managed FLV files
I've got a bit of a question that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Can Flash Media Server 2 take dynamic paths to FLV content? We're working within the constraints of a pretty high end post production solution that will end up storing many hours of video content, probably in MXF format in a high-res storage environment. There will be FLV files generated from this original content and stored in alternate locations. Right now as I understand it, FMS requires you to determine virtual directory paths. Unfortunately, these paths will need to be entirely dynamic (edge-type system) and may include both network and local system paths. The web front end will read file information from the CMS and pass a dynamically generated location path to FMS for it to grab the FLV file to stream (the file will not have an flv extension either). Has anyone done anything like this or knows if this is even possible? I can't seem to find any resources that goes into this depth. Bunch of bright people here so I figured I would ask. cheers, Jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
