Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
yeah that quote was from probably the very first apeparance of amfphp way back when. There was also a quote somewhere (it used to be a link on the old amfphp.org site, but its not there anymore) saying somethign to that effect that macromedia 'was aware' about it but had no plans to do anything about it. Also, I've heard of way more instances of people having issues trying to work with CF Remoting than with amfphp...espeically in these latest releases up to including 1.0, where Patrick Mineault (http://www.5etdemi.com/blog/) kicked a lot of ass reworkign and speeding up, and clearing up a lot of the formerly annoying issues. I've used it on a number of production sites and have never had an issue of it taking a crap on me, not even from the first early releases. On 1/26/06, Mike Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, but subtle. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Mike Britton > > Sent: 26 January 2006 15:50 > > To: Flashcoders mailing list > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects > > > > If that is their approach, it inhibits AMFPHP which is itself > > oppressive. > > > > Mike > > ___ > > Flashcoders mailing list > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
Yeah, but subtle. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Mike Britton > Sent: 26 January 2006 15:50 > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects > > If that is their approach, it inhibits AMFPHP which is itself > oppressive. > > Mike > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
If that is their approach, it inhibits AMFPHP which is itself oppressive. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
I think Adobe (still not happy writing that) are happy with the legal ambiguity They don't come off as oppressing the little guy, but equally not many large commercial projects will take the risk of going down the amfphp route . M > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Mike Britton > Sent: 26 January 2006 15:24 > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects > > Any would-be lawyers lurking here who could once and for all > help us resolve this issue? > > Mike > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
Because they have a capable competing language, ColdFusion. It would be like bringing a product to market and then releasing a free version of the same thing. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
I'm curious why Macromedia (oops, adobe) don't pick up PHP as a remoting technology. It's a huge audience and they support PHP in their other products (ie. dreamweaver). On 1/27/06, Miles Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But exactly what *is* the legal issue? That AMFPHP reverse-engineered > Flash > Remoting's binary file format? > > The MacroMedia web site has a tutorial on using it: > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/articles/amfphp.html . I wouldn't > think they're t erribly concerned, making the plumbing available > encourages > more use of Flash with a variety of back ends. > > Miles > > > At 10:44 AM 1/26/2006, Mike Britton wrote: > > >It's the legal issue -- this implies risk where other options don't. > >Personally I love AMFPHP and have never observed it blowing up; it's > >far faster than ColdFusion remoting in my experience. Legal issues > >aside, I'd go with it for enterprise-scale projects. > > > >Mike > > > > > >On 1/26/06, Simen Brekken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Hello Flashcoders, > > > > > > > > > >Question: > > > > >What's your opinion and/or practice of using AMFPHP for client's > > > > >project? > > > > > > > > > > > AMFPHP is production ready (we run 20+ pretty big sites on it) but > > there's no > > > warranty that it won't blow up and you'll have someone to call when it > > does. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Simen Brekken > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders mailing list > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > >-- > >Mike > >-- > >http://www.mikebritton.com > >http://www.mikenkim.com > >___ > >Flashcoders mailing list > >Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: 1/25/2006 > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
Any would-be lawyers lurking here who could once and for all help us resolve this issue? Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
But exactly what *is* the legal issue? That AMFPHP reverse-engineered Flash Remoting's binary file format? The MacroMedia web site has a tutorial on using it: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/articles/amfphp.html . I wouldn't think they're t erribly concerned, making the plumbing available encourages more use of Flash with a variety of back ends. Miles At 10:44 AM 1/26/2006, Mike Britton wrote: It's the legal issue -- this implies risk where other options don't. Personally I love AMFPHP and have never observed it blowing up; it's far faster than ColdFusion remoting in my experience. Legal issues aside, I'd go with it for enterprise-scale projects. Mike On 1/26/06, Simen Brekken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hello Flashcoders, > > > > > >Question: > > >What's your opinion and/or practice of using AMFPHP for client's > > >project? > > > > > AMFPHP is production ready (we run 20+ pretty big sites on it) but there's no > warranty that it won't blow up and you'll have someone to call when it does. > > Regards, > Simen Brekken > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- Mike -- http://www.mikebritton.com http://www.mikenkim.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: 1/25/2006 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
It's the legal issue -- this implies risk where other options don't. Personally I love AMFPHP and have never observed it blowing up; it's far faster than ColdFusion remoting in my experience. Legal issues aside, I'd go with it for enterprise-scale projects. Mike On 1/26/06, Simen Brekken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hello Flashcoders, > > > > > >Question: > > >What's your opinion and/or practice of using AMFPHP for client's > > >project? > > > > > AMFPHP is production ready (we run 20+ pretty big sites on it) but there's no > warranty that it won't blow up and you'll have someone to call when it does. > > Regards, > Simen Brekken > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- Mike -- http://www.mikebritton.com http://www.mikenkim.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: AMFPHP for commercial projects
> >Hello Flashcoders, > > > >Question: > >What's your opinion and/or practice of using AMFPHP for client's > >project? > > AMFPHP is production ready (we run 20+ pretty big sites on it) but there's no warranty that it won't blow up and you'll have someone to call when it does. Regards, Simen Brekken ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
