RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to mention a few things that might interest a few of you: 1) The entire TweenLite family now does synchronized tweens. 2) TweenLite's big brother, TweenMax, was just released and it adds support for Bezier tweens, sequencing, hex color tweening, and a bunch more features. It does everything TweenLite and TweenFilterLite do plus more. 3) In addition to normal Bezier tweening, TweenMax has a bezierThrough feature that allows you to define points through which you want the bezier curve to travel (instead of normal control points that simply attract the curve) There's an interactive demo that lets you play with the Bezier functionality, as well as a feature comparison chart for TweenLite, TweenFilterLite, and TweenMax, and a Bezier speed test all available at www.TweenMax.com. Of course everything is available in AS2 and AS3. Cheers! Jack -Original Message- From: Meinte van't Kruis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:51 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Tweenlite has one lil thingy against it though; tweens aren't synchronised. It doesn't happen much that this becomes a problem, though I can imagine projects where people want lots of tweens ending at the same time, which simply won't happen with lots of objects in TweenLite, other than that it's pretty sweet. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:20 PM, eric e. dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: third TweenLite and TweenFilterLite On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
cool! On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jack Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to mention a few things that might interest a few of you: 1) The entire TweenLite family now does synchronized tweens. 2) TweenLite's big brother, TweenMax, was just released and it adds support for Bezier tweens, sequencing, hex color tweening, and a bunch more features. It does everything TweenLite and TweenFilterLite do plus more. 3) In addition to normal Bezier tweening, TweenMax has a bezierThrough feature that allows you to define points through which you want the bezier curve to travel (instead of normal control points that simply attract the curve) There's an interactive demo that lets you play with the Bezier functionality, as well as a feature comparison chart for TweenLite, TweenFilterLite, and TweenMax, and a Bezier speed test all available at www.TweenMax.com. Of course everything is available in AS2 and AS3. Cheers! Jack -Original Message- From: Meinte van't Kruis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:51 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Tweenlite has one lil thingy against it though; tweens aren't synchronised. It doesn't happen much that this becomes a problem, though I can imagine projects where people want lots of tweens ending at the same time, which simply won't happen with lots of objects in TweenLite, other than that it's pretty sweet. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:20 PM, eric e. dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: third TweenLite and TweenFilterLite On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- M.A. van't Kruis http://www.malatze.nl/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have no idea what this international list means?? I am curious, Pedro On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Pedro D.K. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
- Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have no idea what this international list means?? People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny new Porsches. Paul I am curious, Pedro On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Pedro D.K. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there: http://www.getacoder.com L Paul Andrews a écrit : - Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have no idea what this international list means?? People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny new Porsches. Paul I am curious, Pedro On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Pedro D.K. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Yea guys I I know we are off the issue topic. but its disgusting... i could be wrong but I feel getacoder and elance all i feel cheapen us as coders and flashers.. but this is a digression.. Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:24:08 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there: http://www.getacoder.com L Paul Andrews a écrit : - Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have no idea what this international list means?? People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny new Porsches. Paul I am curious, Pedro On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Pedro D.K. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
i couldn't afford to pay my bills on those prices On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:15, Dwayne Neckles wrote: Yea guys I I know we are off the issue topic. but its disgusting... i could be wrong but I feel getacoder and elance all i feel cheapen us as coders and flashers.. but this is a digression.. Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:24:08 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there: http://www.getacoder.com L Paul Andrews a écrit : - Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third- world country ;) I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have no idea what this international list means?? People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny new Porsches. Paul I am curious, Pedro On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Pedro D.K. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008_ __ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
i've never used tweenlite but i have used tweener and one of the
things that blew me away was the ability to tween properties and
variables rather than just clips/sprites
example from current project:
[CODE]
// read/write percentage value relates directly to the slider
public function get percent():Number { return slider.percent; }
public function set percent( p:Number ):void { slider.percent = p; }
public function arrowPressed( e:MouseEvent ):void
{
var dir:int = (e.target.name == left_arrow) ? -1 : 1;
var total:Number = slider.percent + (dir * scrollSpeed);
Tweener.addTween(slider,{percent:total, time: .5,
transition:easeInOutQuad}); // Tweens set() method
}
[/CODE]
you may be able to do this with tweenlite, i don't know
On 25 Mar 2008, at 23:46, Jack Doyle wrote:
First let me say that Tweener is fantastic, and a lot of people
rely on it
for good reason. If quantity of features is your top priority, you
should
seriously consider using Tweener.
Let me briefly address a few of the TweenLite-related concerns
folks have
mentioned:
SPEED
-
TweenLite's speed advantage isn't only a factor when you're doing
hundreds
of simultaneous tweens - it can be important even with a single tween.
Imagine a button that initiates a tween when you rollover it, and
the user
rolls their mouse on/off/on/off quickly. Even a slight pause can
degrade the
experience. Speed is also critical for mobile devices that have slower
processors, less memory, etc.
FILE SIZE
-
File size can be a huge factor in certain scenarios, especially for
banner
ads. But for those who don't deal with strict file size
requirements, it's a
non-issue.
FEATURES
Bezier tweens - Coming soon (well, as soon as I can clear my over-
filled
plate) to TweenMax which is a class that extends TweenLite, adding
non-essential features. That way, the base class will remain very
lean
mean, but if you need the extra features and are willing to trade
off some
file size and performance, TweenMax will take care of you.
Rounding numbers - Possible now with TweenLite's onUpdate feature.
It does
require some extra steps, though. If it gets added to the base
class, every
tween takes a slight performance hit because of the added
conditional logic
required just to see whether or not each tween needs rounding. Calling
Math.round() on every frame is expensive in terms of performance too.
Transitions/easing - There aren't fewer transition options in
TweenLite. You
can use ANY function as long as it conforms to the standard ease
format that
all of Adobe's and Penner's do. Elastic, Strong, Back, etc. are all
available.
You may actually find that there are a few features that the TweenLite
family of classes (TweenLite, TweenFilterLite, and TweenMax) has that
Tweener is missing, but in general, I'd say Tweener is more feature-
packed.
It just comes a the price of file size and performance. That's not
to say
Tweener performs poorly, though - it depends on the scenario which
is why
this speed test might be helpful:
http://blog.greensock.com/tweening-speed-test/
So, again, this isn't a good/bad issue - they're just different
tools that
you can choose from to get the job done. TweenLite wasn't built to be
everything to everyone, and I'm pretty sure Tweener wasn't built to
be a
super-compact engine that's perfect for banner ads. I'd encourage
folks to
give 'em both a shot and see what feels best.
Tweener: http://code.google.com/p/tweener/
TweenLite: http://www.TweenLite.com
Jack
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From: Cory Petosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:43 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
TweenLite doesn't have bezier curve support, can't store the duration
in the options object, doesn't support auto-rounding of pixels, and
has significantly fewer transition options. I think TweenLite is great
-- if I ever need to tween 1200 things at once, I'll certainly choose
it -- but these features in Tweener make it a better choice for many
of my projects.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Steven Sacks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's
almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k).
I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I
prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code.
Different
strokes for different folks, I guess. :)
Dave Mennenoh wrote:
I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's
syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K.
Dave -
Head Developer
http://www.blurredistinction.com
Adobe Community Expert
http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
One thing I keep seeing is all this talk of the 8k+ that Tweener, Fuse etc add to the file size. And while I absolutely understand the need for keeping projects as barebones tiny as possible, I guess it just doesnt seem like that much, especially since a project that involves heavy, repeated and complex tweening, 9 times out of 10, is chock full o' jpegs, flvs, complex vector graphics etc, all of which might make 8k seem like the least of one's concerns. Am I missing something? Is that 8k per tween? .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Then I'll tell you TweenLite can tween anything. It can even tween Array
(of numbers).
The last time I checked Tweener did not have filter tweens, that's why I
picked TweenLite/TweenFilterLite. But things may have changed.
Jack has even fixed a little (albeit non-critical) buggish TweenLite
behaviour for me earlier this year in a few days. Big respect!
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle) wrote:
i've never used tweenlite but i have used tweener and one of the things
that blew me away was the ability to tween properties and variables
rather than just clips/sprites
example from current project:
[CODE]
// read/write percentage value relates directly to the slider
public function get percent():Number { return slider.percent; }
public function set percent( p:Number ):void { slider.percent = p; }
public function arrowPressed( e:MouseEvent ):void
{
var dir:int = (e.target.name == left_arrow) ? -1 : 1;
var total:Number = slider.percent + (dir * scrollSpeed);
Tweener.addTween(slider,{percent:total, time: .5,
transition:easeInOutQuad}); // Tweens set() method
}
[/CODE]
you may be able to do this with tweenlite, i don't know
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
No. Classes add their size per SWF file, not per use. So yes, it's 8kb added to the file regardless of the number of uses. Zeh Matt S. wrote: One thing I keep seeing is all this talk of the 8k+ that Tweener, Fuse etc add to the file size. And while I absolutely understand the need for keeping projects as barebones tiny as possible, I guess it just doesnt seem like that much, especially since a project that involves heavy, repeated and complex tweening, 9 times out of 10, is chock full o' jpegs, flvs, complex vector graphics etc, all of which might make 8k seem like the least of one's concerns. Am I missing something? Is that 8k per tween? .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Hi Kenneth,
That's interesting.
How can I tween an Array.
Do you perhaps have a little example code?
TIA
Cor
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Then I'll tell you TweenLite can tween anything. It can even tween Array (of
numbers).
The last time I checked Tweener did not have filter tweens, that's why I
picked TweenLite/TweenFilterLite. But things may have changed.
Jack has even fixed a little (albeit non-critical) buggish TweenLite
behaviour for me earlier this year in a few days. Big respect!
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle) wrote:
i've never used tweenlite but i have used tweener and one of the
things that blew me away was the ability to tween properties and
variables rather than just clips/sprites
example from current project:
[CODE]
// read/write percentage value relates directly to the slider public
function get percent():Number { return slider.percent; } public
function set percent( p:Number ):void { slider.percent = p; }
public function arrowPressed( e:MouseEvent ):void {
var dir:int = (e.target.name == left_arrow) ? -1 : 1;
var total:Number = slider.percent + (dir * scrollSpeed);
Tweener.addTween(slider,{percent:total, time: .5,
transition:easeInOutQuad}); // Tweens set() method } [/CODE]
you may be able to do this with tweenlite, i don't know
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
no total it only really matters with flash banners where you have to keep below a ridiculously low filesize (usually 20-30k for expanding ones) to not delay the content on the site on sites / media it doesn't really add up to that much On 26 Mar 2008, at 13:11, Matt S. wrote: One thing I keep seeing is all this talk of the 8k+ that Tweener, Fuse etc add to the file size. And while I absolutely understand the need for keeping projects as barebones tiny as possible, I guess it just doesnt seem like that much, especially since a project that involves heavy, repeated and complex tweening, 9 times out of 10, is chock full o' jpegs, flvs, complex vector graphics etc, all of which might make 8k seem like the least of one's concerns. Am I missing something? Is that 8k per tween? .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I'd encourage folks to give 'em both a shot and see what feels best. Tweener: http://code.google.com/p/tweener/ TweenLite: http://www.TweenLite.com Jack, I just have to commend you for such an unbiased post - that's very rare these days in online communities. Kudos, espeically when you're the developer of TweenLite. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal GTO Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) sites are like 2 megs these lols... Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:36:16 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 No. Classes add their size per SWF file, not per use. So yes, it's 8kb added to the file regardless of the number of uses. Zeh Matt S. wrote: One thing I keep seeing is all this talk of the 8k+ that Tweener, Fuse etc add to the file size. And while I absolutely understand the need for keeping projects as barebones tiny as possible, I guess it just doesnt seem like that much, especially since a project that involves heavy, repeated and complex tweening, 9 times out of 10, is chock full o' jpegs, flvs, complex vector graphics etc, all of which might make 8k seem like the least of one's concerns. Am I missing something? Is that 8k per tween? .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal GTO Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
It is not that much to figure out Dwayne, if you really care about filesizes - especially when doing banners - than choosing a lighter Tweening-engine might do the trick of keeping the filesize as low as it must be But you can use any tweening engine you like, as long as you agree with yourself that it is a tweening engine you want to use ;) /m 2008/3/26, Dwayne Neckles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) sites are like 2 megs these lols... Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:36:16 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 No. Classes add their size per SWF file, not per use. So yes, it's 8kb added to the file regardless of the number of uses. Zeh Matt S. wrote: One thing I keep seeing is all this talk of the 8k+ that Tweener, Fuse etc add to the file size. And while I absolutely understand the need for keeping projects as barebones tiny as possible, I guess it just doesnt seem like that much, especially since a project that involves heavy, repeated and complex tweening, 9 times out of 10, is chock full o' jpegs, flvs, complex vector graphics etc, all of which might make 8k seem like the least of one's concerns. Am I missing something? Is that 8k per tween? .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Martin Klasson Flash Developer Parkgatan 9-11 S-411 24 Göteborg Sweden Office +46 (0) 31 711 54 50 Cell +46 (0) 730 964 561 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.kokokaka.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Gys I'm very clear that when doing banners the is the big concern about size.. I was saying before that I understand that... I do banners everyday but that when it comes to BIG sites (2 megs )etc that I don't understand the concern .most sites on FWA are big you know thats all? Other than banners whats the big deal? Who cares about file sizes.. those sites on FWA are pretty huge.. Put me on.. I'm just asking Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal GTO Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Sure.
package {
import gs.TweenLite;
public class ArrayTweenExample {
private var arr:Array;
public function ArrayTweenExample():void {
arr = [2.34, 100, -666];
trace(arr);
TweenLite.to(arr, 1, {endArray:[567.8, 999, 0],
onUpdate:onArrayValueChange})
}
private function onArrayValueChange():void {
trace(arr);
}
}
}
Output:
2.34,100,-666
67.0959137399,202.952581,-589.730346
98.5128713399,252.9010210001,-552.727386
133.8795670398,309.1289759997,-511.072416
165.9564164596,360.1265489995,-473.292234
195.8850833397,407.708821,-438.042186
224.6556881397,453.4499409997,-404.156106
252.2682308596,497.3499089997,-371.6339940003
279.5307538393,540.693395999,-339.524136
304.7909829595,580.853524,-309.772584
328.89314,619.17249,-281.385005
351.837254959,655.650324,-254.3613840004
374.285451499,691.339725,-227.92185
394.877242859,724.077709,-203.668794
414.310972139,754.974540999,-180.7797060003
432.586639339,784.030221,-159.2545860002
450.220509439,812.065536,-138.4853759997
466.1438630387,837.381375999,-119.730816
480.909154558,860.856063998,-102.3402240003
494.516383999,882.4896,-86.313606
507.335927659,902.870829001,-71.2147139996
518.590843499,920.764524999,-57.9586534
528.687697259,936.817069,-46.066554
537.62648894,951.028460999,-35.5384260007
545.631706159,963.755604,-26.10986400016
552.218184239,974.227155999,-18.35229600138
557.646600239,982.857555999,-11.95869600032
561.916954159,989.646804,-6.92906400039
565.10784494,994.719861,-3.170826000337
567.025885259,997.769268999,-0.911754000872
567.785863499,998.977524999,-0.01665000140608
567.8,999,0
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Cor wrote:
Hi Kenneth,
That's interesting.
How can I tween an Array.
Do you perhaps have a little example code?
TIA
Cor
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Kenneth Kawamoto
Verzonden: woensdag 26 maart 2008 14:45
Aan: Flash Coders List
Onderwerp: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Then I'll tell you TweenLite can tween anything. It can even tween Array (of
numbers).
The last time I checked Tweener did not have filter tweens, that's why I
picked TweenLite/TweenFilterLite. But things may have changed.
Jack has even fixed a little (albeit non-critical) buggish TweenLite
behaviour for me earlier this year in a few days. Big respect!
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle) wrote:
i've never used tweenlite but i have used tweener and one of the
things that blew me away was the ability to tween properties and
variables rather than just clips/sprites
example from current project:
[CODE]
// read/write percentage value relates directly to the slider public
function get percent():Number { return slider.percent; } public
function set percent( p:Number ):void { slider.percent = p; }
public function arrowPressed( e:MouseEvent ):void {
var dir:int = (e.target.name == left_arrow) ? -1 : 1;
var total:Number = slider.percent + (dir * scrollSpeed);
Tweener.addTween(slider,{percent:total, time: .5,
transition:easeInOutQuad}); // Tweens set() method } [/CODE]
you may be able to do this with tweenlite, i don't know
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Sure.
package {
import gs.TweenLite;
public class ArrayTweenExample {
private var arr:Array;
public function ArrayTweenExample():void {
arr = [2.34, 100, -666];
trace(arr);
TweenLite.to(arr, 1, {endArray:[567.8, 999, 0],
onUpdate:onArrayValueChange});
}
private function onArrayValueChange():void {
trace(arr);
}
}
}
Output:
2.34,100,-666
67.0959137399,202.952581,-589.730346
98.5128713399,252.9010210001,-552.727386
133.8795670398,309.1289759997,-511.072416
165.9564164596,360.1265489995,-473.292234
195.8850833397,407.708821,-438.042186
224.6556881397,453.4499409997,-404.156106
252.2682308596,497.3499089997,-371.6339940003
279.5307538393,540.693395999,-339.524136
304.7909829595,580.853524,-309.772584
328.89314,619.17249,-281.385005
351.837254959,655.650324,-254.3613840004
374.285451499,691.339725,-227.92185
394.877242859,724.077709,-203.668794
414.310972139,754.974540999,-180.7797060003
432.586639339,784.030221,-159.2545860002
450.220509439,812.065536,-138.4853759997
466.1438630387,837.381375999,-119.730816
480.909154558,860.856063998,-102.3402240003
494.516383999,882.4896,-86.313606
507.335927659,902.870829001,-71.2147139996
518.590843499,920.764524999,-57.9586534
528.687697259,936.817069,-46.066554
537.62648894,951.028460999,-35.5384260007
545.631706159,963.755604,-26.10986400016
552.218184239,974.227155999,-18.35229600138
557.646600239,982.857555999,-11.95869600032
561.916954159,989.646804,-6.92906400039
565.10784494,994.719861,-3.170826000337
567.025885259,997.769268999,-0.911754000872
567.785863499,998.977524999,-0.01665000140608
567.8,999,0
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Cor wrote:
Hi Kenneth,
That's interesting.
How can I tween an Array.
Do you perhaps have a little example code?
TIA
Cor
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Kenneth Kawamoto
Verzonden: woensdag 26 maart 2008 14:45
Aan: Flash Coders List
Onderwerp: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Then I'll tell you TweenLite can tween anything. It can even tween Array (of
numbers).
The last time I checked Tweener did not have filter tweens, that's why I
picked TweenLite/TweenFilterLite. But things may have changed.
Jack has even fixed a little (albeit non-critical) buggish TweenLite
behaviour for me earlier this year in a few days. Big respect!
Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle) wrote:
i've never used tweenlite but i have used tweener and one of the
things that blew me away was the ability to tween properties and
variables rather than just clips/sprites
example from current project:
[CODE]
// read/write percentage value relates directly to the slider public
function get percent():Number { return slider.percent; } public
function set percent( p:Number ):void { slider.percent = p; }
public function arrowPressed( e:MouseEvent ):void {
var dir:int = (e.target.name == left_arrow) ? -1 : 1;
var total:Number = slider.percent + (dir * scrollSpeed);
Tweener.addTween(slider,{percent:total, time: .5,
transition:easeInOutQuad}); // Tweens set() method } [/CODE]
you may be able to do this with tweenlite, i don't know
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RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
You're right, Dwayne, for a lot of non-banner work, 8k vs 3k really doesn't matter. It can, however, come into play in local memory as tweens are created. For example, if an instance of Tweener has 8k worth of code driving it (not that every instance would take 8k in memory - I'm just talking about the variables/properties/methods stored for each instance) and you create 300 instances, it's that much more that has to get pushed into memory and chewed on by the CPU verses 3k worth of code. Again, with today's desktop/laptop processors and Gigabytes of RAM, it's not much of an issue unless you're working with a LOT of tweens, but in some cases it's important, especially for mobile devices. Some developers prefer lightweight, efficient and speedy whereas some would rather trade for a broader feature set. I'd encourage you to compare the feature sets because if you need a Tweener-specific feature, your choice is a no-brainer. But many developers find everything they need and more in TweenLite, so they feel all warm fuzzy inside when they get the size and speed benefits too. When you're driving around town, there ain't much difference between a Hummer and a Porche. They both get you from point A to B. If you're gonna do some off-roading, better warm up the Hummer. If you need speed and agility, get your racing gloves on and hop into the Porsche. :-) Jack -Original Message- From: Dwayne Neckles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:29 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Gys I'm very clear that when doing banners the is the big concern about size.. I was saying before that I understand that... I do banners everyday but that when it comes to BIG sites (2 megs )etc that I don't understand the concern .most sites on FWA are big you know thats all? Other than banners whats the big deal? Who cares about file sizes.. those sites on FWA are pretty huge.. Put me on.. I'm just asking Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Thank you Jack.. didnt know that - I'lll check out TweenLite and as some mentioned much kudos for the earllier non biased review by the way From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:38:16 -0500 You're right, Dwayne, for a lot of non-banner work, 8k vs 3k really doesn't matter. It can, however, come into play in local memory as tweens are created. For example, if an instance of Tweener has 8k worth of code driving it (not that every instance would take 8k in memory - I'm just talking about the variables/properties/methods stored for each instance) and you create 300 instances, it's that much more that has to get pushed into memory and chewed on by the CPU verses 3k worth of code. Again, with today's desktop/laptop processors and Gigabytes of RAM, it's not much of an issue unless you're working with a LOT of tweens, but in some cases it's important, especially for mobile devices. Some developers prefer lightweight, efficient and speedy whereas some would rather trade for a broader feature set. I'd encourage you to compare the feature sets because if you need a Tweener-specific feature, your choice is a no-brainer. But many developers find everything they need and more in TweenLite, so they feel all warm fuzzy inside when they get the size and speed benefits too. When you're driving around town, there ain't much difference between a Hummer and a Porche. They both get you from point A to B. If you're gonna do some off-roading, better warm up the Hummer. If you need speed and agility, get your racing gloves on and hop into the Porsche. :-) Jack -Original Message- From: Dwayne Neckles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:29 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Gys I'm very clear that when doing banners the is the big concern about size.. I was saying before that I understand that... I do banners everyday but that when it comes to BIG sites (2 megs )etc that I don't understand the concern .most sites on FWA are big you know thats all? Other than banners whats the big deal? Who cares about file sizes.. those sites on FWA are pretty huge.. Put me on.. I'm just asking Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Jack Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you're driving around town, there ain't much difference between a Hummer and a Porche. They both get you from point A to B. If you're gonna do some off-roading, better warm up the Hummer. If you need speed and agility, get your racing gloves on and hop into the Porsche. :-) We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... Anyway, I really think that most size optimizations should be made in your asset library, not in your code. So, you have a 80Kb filesize limit. Will 8Kb really make that much a difference? And if it does, well maybe your images could be encoded differently, or maybe you have a whole huge font embedded, which could be stripped down to a subset of characters that you really need. There's plenty of room to do size optimizations in your graphics, so you don't have to give up on code features. On the other hand, if a smaller code library fits you well enough, then just forget about all that ;) In the company I work, we use Tweener. Not actually by my own choice, but because the animation guys know how to use it well, so the tweens are already programmed when I touch the code. So much the better for me, will not complain ;) Still, I've never had any problems with filesize, not even on banners, which could only be solved by stripping some code out of it. Wagner Amaral ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Jack Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Dwayne, for a lot of non-banner work, 8k vs 3k really doesn't matter. It can, however, come into play in local memory as tweens are created. For example, if an instance of Tweener has 8k worth of code driving it (not that every instance would take 8k in memory - I'm just talking about the variables/properties/methods stored for each instance) and you create 300 instances, it's that much more that has to get pushed into memory and chewed on by the CPU verses 3k worth of code. About that, I was just looking at Tweener's code, and I don't think that would be a problem either. It is basically a static class, so there's no extra memory allocation for tween added, except for a relatively small TweenListObj pushed into an array. Or maybe I am wrong and Zeh can correct me ;) Wagner Amaral ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
A few years ago, I went to work at a company and a guy had written an AS2 variable height data grid component. It was over 2000 lines of code in 3-4 classes. It had bugs and it was slow to render. He had been working on it for over two months. I sat down and wrote a variable height data grid with the same exact functionality in 41 lines of AS1 in about 2 hours. No bugs, instant rendering. While the above example is a far cry from 3k vs 8k, the point I'm making is if the extra lines of code aren't benefiting you, why compile them? For most purposes, TweenLite gets the job done. If you're doing Papervision 3D and need bezier curves and such, Tweener is the obvious choice. Both are fantastic. I choose TweenLite most of the time purely for speed, size and efficiency. If I need something more robust, I use Tweener. They're the two obvious winners. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Correct, but just as a matter of clarity, it's important to be clear that the exported SWF size is completely unrelated to how much memory each 'instance' takes in memory. Zeh Jack Doyle wrote: You're right, Dwayne, for a lot of non-banner work, 8k vs 3k really doesn't matter. It can, however, come into play in local memory as tweens are created. For example, if an instance of Tweener has 8k worth of code driving it (not that every instance would take 8k in memory - I'm just talking about the variables/properties/methods stored for each instance) and you create 300 instances, it's that much more that has to get pushed into memory and chewed on by the CPU verses 3k worth of code. Again, with today's desktop/laptop processors and Gigabytes of RAM, it's not much of an issue unless you're working with a LOT of tweens, but in some cases it's important, especially for mobile devices. Some developers prefer lightweight, efficient and speedy whereas some would rather trade for a broader feature set. I'd encourage you to compare the feature sets because if you need a Tweener-specific feature, your choice is a no-brainer. But many developers find everything they need and more in TweenLite, so they feel all warm fuzzy inside when they get the size and speed benefits too. When you're driving around town, there ain't much difference between a Hummer and a Porche. They both get you from point A to B. If you're gonna do some off-roading, better warm up the Hummer. If you need speed and agility, get your racing gloves on and hop into the Porsche. :-) Jack -Original Message- From: Dwayne Neckles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:29 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Gys I'm very clear that when doing banners the is the big concern about size.. I was saying before that I understand that... I do banners everyday but that when it comes to BIG sites (2 megs )etc that I don't understand the concern .most sites on FWA are big you know thats all? Other than banners whats the big deal? Who cares about file sizes.. those sites on FWA are pretty huge.. Put me on.. I'm just asking Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
About that, I was just looking at Tweener's code, and I don't think that would be a problem either. It is basically a static class, so there's no extra memory allocation for tween added, except for a relatively small TweenListObj pushed into an array. Or maybe I am wrong and Zeh can correct me ;) Every engine will have additional memory spent for new instances - with Tweener, it's TweenListObj on the current version, which is basically an array containing references and data about timing and tweening parameters. But obviously there are many reasons why the byte size of the compiled class isn't duplicated for new instances. This would be the case even for instances of a non-static class or for a single class (Tweener code is split on few different classes). The very reason we have classes is to keep code centralized instead of duplicating similar methods for every new object. The SWF byte code is completely different from the 'code' in memory anyway too. Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I never use more than one instance as it's static objectWhat do you mean ? Zeh Fernando a écrit : Correct, but just as a matter of clarity, it's important to be clear that the exported SWF size is completely unrelated to how much memory each 'instance' takes in memory. Zeh Jack Doyle wrote: You're right, Dwayne, for a lot of non-banner work, 8k vs 3k really doesn't matter. It can, however, come into play in local memory as tweens are created. For example, if an instance of Tweener has 8k worth of code driving it (not that every instance would take 8k in memory - I'm just talking about the variables/properties/methods stored for each instance) and you create 300 instances, it's that much more that has to get pushed into memory and chewed on by the CPU verses 3k worth of code. Again, with today's desktop/laptop processors and Gigabytes of RAM, it's not much of an issue unless you're working with a LOT of tweens, but in some cases it's important, especially for mobile devices. Some developers prefer lightweight, efficient and speedy whereas some would rather trade for a broader feature set. I'd encourage you to compare the feature sets because if you need a Tweener-specific feature, your choice is a no-brainer. But many developers find everything they need and more in TweenLite, so they feel all warm fuzzy inside when they get the size and speed benefits too. When you're driving around town, there ain't much difference between a Hummer and a Porche. They both get you from point A to B. If you're gonna do some off-roading, better warm up the Hummer. If you need speed and agility, get your racing gloves on and hop into the Porsche. :-) Jack -Original Message- From: Dwayne Neckles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:29 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 Gys I'm very clear that when doing banners the is the big concern about size.. I was saying before that I understand that... I do banners everyday but that when it comes to BIG sites (2 megs )etc that I don't understand the concern .most sites on FWA are big you know thats all? Other than banners whats the big deal? Who cares about file sizes.. those sites on FWA are pretty huge.. Put me on.. I'm just asking Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't get the big deal either about size.. I mean I really don't... except for ads maybe that have a tight 30k limit( which needs to be upped) You add 40k here for some media. 60k there for some code, you're up to 100k. If you have download requirements of 100k max in some client environments (like we do in some environments), 8k makes a difference. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that to bike and skate... You're joking, right? Talented Flash developers are in extremely high demand right now. Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or companies. It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and Flex devs. Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr. That's $150,000 - $300,000 a year. If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new job or grow a pair and ask for a raise. That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to do with my money. ;) Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list. You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world country ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
I've used Fuse a great deal in AS2, and both Tweenlite and Tweener in AS2/3. I tend to stick with tweener primarily for the beziers. I think adding even a hint of a curve when moving from A to B makes a movement look much more natural. I'm wondering, though, if anyone on the list has gotten into GO(ASAP) at all? I'm very curious about it, but I don't know how involved I want to get in rolling my own when there are already tweening engines out there that are usable. I've also seen no mention of Boostworthy. I personally don't care for the syntax. Is this the general concensus? Jason Van Pelt Interactive Developer 504.210.1232 (p) / 504.581.2731 (f) Peter A. Mayer Advertising, Inc. www.peteramayer.com___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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true, but knowing so saves a lot of wtf's when you do have lots of stuff tweening and want it in sync ;) On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the speed thing, let's just keep this in context - it's so when you have a lot of tweenings going on at the exact same time. A few tweens won't produce a difference in terms of framerate. If they do, there's something else wrong. Still, I think we should be glad there are so many alternatives. :) Zeh Steven Sacks wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- M.A. van't Kruis http://www.malatze.nl/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
First let me say that Tweener is fantastic, and a lot of people rely on it for good reason. If quantity of features is your top priority, you should seriously consider using Tweener. Let me briefly address a few of the TweenLite-related concerns folks have mentioned: SPEED - TweenLite's speed advantage isn't only a factor when you're doing hundreds of simultaneous tweens - it can be important even with a single tween. Imagine a button that initiates a tween when you rollover it, and the user rolls their mouse on/off/on/off quickly. Even a slight pause can degrade the experience. Speed is also critical for mobile devices that have slower processors, less memory, etc. FILE SIZE - File size can be a huge factor in certain scenarios, especially for banner ads. But for those who don't deal with strict file size requirements, it's a non-issue. FEATURES Bezier tweens - Coming soon (well, as soon as I can clear my over-filled plate) to TweenMax which is a class that extends TweenLite, adding non-essential features. That way, the base class will remain very lean mean, but if you need the extra features and are willing to trade off some file size and performance, TweenMax will take care of you. Rounding numbers - Possible now with TweenLite's onUpdate feature. It does require some extra steps, though. If it gets added to the base class, every tween takes a slight performance hit because of the added conditional logic required just to see whether or not each tween needs rounding. Calling Math.round() on every frame is expensive in terms of performance too. Transitions/easing - There aren't fewer transition options in TweenLite. You can use ANY function as long as it conforms to the standard ease format that all of Adobe's and Penner's do. Elastic, Strong, Back, etc. are all available. You may actually find that there are a few features that the TweenLite family of classes (TweenLite, TweenFilterLite, and TweenMax) has that Tweener is missing, but in general, I'd say Tweener is more feature-packed. It just comes a the price of file size and performance. That's not to say Tweener performs poorly, though - it depends on the scenario which is why this speed test might be helpful: http://blog.greensock.com/tweening-speed-test/ So, again, this isn't a good/bad issue - they're just different tools that you can choose from to get the job done. TweenLite wasn't built to be everything to everyone, and I'm pretty sure Tweener wasn't built to be a super-compact engine that's perfect for banner ads. I'd encourage folks to give 'em both a shot and see what feels best. Tweener: http://code.google.com/p/tweener/ TweenLite: http://www.TweenLite.com Jack -Original Message- From: Cory Petosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:43 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 TweenLite doesn't have bezier curve support, can't store the duration in the options object, doesn't support auto-rounding of pixels, and has significantly fewer transition options. I think TweenLite is great -- if I ever need to tween 1200 things at once, I'll certainly choose it -- but these features in Tweener make it a better choice for many of my projects. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I'll second TweenLite... Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO and Risk LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal GTO Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:35 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 TweenLite and TweenFilterLite are the undisputed kings of Tween engines. They're the most efficient, best performing and most lightweight. I distribute them with my Gaia framework. Jack Doyle is actually working on an improved version of TweenFilterLite right now which should be released soon. http://blog.greensock.com/tweenliteas3/ http://blog.greensock.com/tweenfilterliteas3/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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TweenLite doesn't have bezier curve support, can't store the duration in the options object, doesn't support auto-rounding of pixels, and has significantly fewer transition options. I think TweenLite is great -- if I ever need to tween 1200 things at once, I'll certainly choose it -- but these features in Tweener make it a better choice for many of my projects. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Cory Petosky : Lead Developer : PUNY 1618 Central Ave NE Suite 130 Minneapolis, MN 55413 Office: 612.216.3924 Mobile: 240.422.9652 Fax: 612.605.9216 http://www.punyentertainment.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Tweenlite has one lil thingy against it though; tweens aren't synchronised. It doesn't happen much that this becomes a problem, though I can imagine projects where people want lots of tweens ending at the same time, which simply won't happen with lots of objects in TweenLite, other than that it's pretty sweet. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:20 PM, eric e. dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: third TweenLite and TweenFilterLite On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- M.A. van't Kruis http://www.malatze.nl/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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While I agree with the speed thing, let's just keep this in context - it's so when you have a lot of tweenings going on at the exact same time. A few tweens won't produce a difference in terms of framerate. If they do, there's something else wrong. Still, I think we should be glad there are so many alternatives. :) Zeh Steven Sacks wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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For things like Papervision 3D, where bezier curves are important, Tweener is the obvious choice. For general purposes, though, Tweener is probably overkill. I'm not bashing Tweener or Fuse or any of the other tweening engines out there. For a lot of situations, TweenLite is more than sufficient. When you need the special functionality that Tweener provides, TweenLite is obviously not going to cut it. Zeh Fernando wrote: While I agree with the speed thing, let's just keep this in context - it's so when you have a lot of tweenings going on at the exact same time. A few tweens won't produce a difference in terms of framerate. If they do, there's something else wrong. Still, I think we should be glad there are so many alternatives. :) Zeh Steven Sacks wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
ALso Tweener allows you to tween frames in movieclips WITH easy... which is pretty darn useful and amazing if you ask me.. I dunno if tweenlite allows that.. Dwayne Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:08:44 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 For things like Papervision 3D, where bezier curves are important, Tweener is the obvious choice. For general purposes, though, Tweener is probably overkill. I'm not bashing Tweener or Fuse or any of the other tweening engines out there. For a lot of situations, TweenLite is more than sufficient. When you need the special functionality that Tweener provides, TweenLite is obviously not going to cut it. Zeh Fernando wrote: While I agree with the speed thing, let's just keep this in context - it's so when you have a lot of tweenings going on at the exact same time. A few tweens won't produce a difference in terms of framerate. If they do, there's something else wrong. Still, I think we should be glad there are so many alternatives. :) Zeh Steven Sacks wrote: Tweener is proven to be significantly slower than TweenLite, and it's almost 300% larger (TweenLite is 3k vs Tweener's 8k). I'm not telling you what to do. You're welcome to your preference. I prefer to write better, faster, smaller, more efficient code. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) Dave Mennenoh wrote: I prefer Tweener, and if you've ever used Fuse you'll like it's syntax. It's also quite small - adds about 8K. Dave - Head Developer http://www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Dwayne Neckles wrote:
ALso
Tweener allows you to tween frames in movieclips WITH easy...
which is pretty darn useful and amazing if you ask me..
I dunno if tweenlite allows that..
Dwayne
TweenLite:
*Frame tweening* - you can tween to any frame in a MovieClip, like
TweenLite.to(my_mc, 2, {frame:125});
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Cool didn't know.. take that back..
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:00:57 -0700
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To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
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Dwayne Neckles wrote:
ALso
Tweener allows you to tween frames in movieclips WITH easy...
which is pretty darn useful and amazing if you ask me..
I dunno if tweenlite allows that..
Dwayne
TweenLite:
*Frame tweening* - you can tween to any frame in a MovieClip, like
TweenLite.to(my_mc, 2, {frame:125});
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Yes TweenLight shown faster than Tweener on a thousandsss tweens. Then
for the 2k/8k size of each it does not make any difference on a 1Mo
project. Rest this bezier functionnality that is awesome, in 3D as in
2D. I nerver used Fuse, but choosing between TweenLight and Tweener
depends on your project, if it needs tones of tweens like particles, or
if it needs multiple point bezier animation.
L
Dwayne Neckles a écrit :
Cool didn't know.. take that back..
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:00:57 -0700
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Dwayne Neckles wrote:
ALso
Tweener allows you to tween frames in movieclips WITH easy...
which is pretty darn useful and amazing if you ask me..
I dunno if tweenlite allows that..
Dwayne
TweenLite:
*Frame tweening* - you can tween to any frame in a MovieClip, like
TweenLite.to(my_mc, 2, {frame:125});
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RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
FlashDevelop In combination with Flex SDK to compile All free and very lightweight, and a very nice auto-completion. It will make your workload much more easy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Jesse Warden Verzonden: zaterdag 22 maart 2008 21:57 Aan: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3 What are people using nowadays besides Flash CS3's built-in ones and Flex 3's built in ones? Looking for something lightweight and that has no Flash or Flex dependencies. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 22-3-2008 16:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 22-3-2008 16:43 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 22-3-2008 16:43 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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What are people using nowadays besides Flash CS3's built-in ones and Flex 3's built in ones? Looking for something lightweight and that has no Flash or Flex dependencies. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I heard a lot of people used http://blog.greensock.com/tweenliteas3/ . Not sure if it's dependent on Flex / Flash, but I don't really think so. On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jesse Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are people using nowadays besides Flash CS3's built-in ones and Flex 3's built in ones? Looking for something lightweight and that has no Flash or Flex dependencies. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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TweenLite and TweenFilterLite are the undisputed kings of Tween engines. They're the most efficient, best performing and most lightweight. I distribute them with my Gaia framework. Jack Doyle is actually working on an improved version of TweenFilterLite right now which should be released soon. http://blog.greensock.com/tweenliteas3/ http://blog.greensock.com/tweenfilterliteas3/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks a bunch! On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Jeroen Beckers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a lot of people used http://blog.greensock.com/tweenliteas3/ . Not sure if it's dependent on Flex / Flash, but I don't really think so. On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jesse Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are people using nowadays besides Flash CS3's built-in ones and Flex 3's built in ones? Looking for something lightweight and that has no Flash or Flex dependencies. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
Hey Jeese, Zeh 's Tweener http://code.google.com/p/tweener/ On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jeroen Beckers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a lot of people used http://blog.greensock.com/tweenliteas3/ . Not sure if it's dependent on Flex / Flash, but I don't really think so. On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jesse Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are people using nowadays besides Flash CS3's built-in ones and Flex 3's built in ones? Looking for something lightweight and that has no Flash or Flex dependencies. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
