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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Thanks guys for your
that a developer
can make in implementing the pattern.
Jim
From: Karina Steffens kar...@neo-archaic.net
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Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 9:53:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
In your
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Hi Jason
Hi Jim,
Thanks for another extensive reply, and getting the discussion back on the
MVC track ;)
Assuming that all the UI events created by one clock face (view) are
included in the events on the other clock face (another view) and the
events are defined by the business rules to have identical
On 3/31/2010 7:32 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:
FlashDevelop - yes, you can code in AS2 - but if you want to compile
without using the Flash IDE, you have to use the free Flex SDK, which
means you have to use (well, I should say get to use) Actionscript 3.0.
Incorrect. MTASC is used to compile
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Hi Jason,
Real quick question.
Kind-of based off what you guys are talking about.
I currently work in Flash
] What good is a Controller?
On 3/31/2010 7:32 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:
FlashDevelop - yes, you can code in AS2 - but if you want to compile
without using the Flash IDE, you have to use the free Flex SDK, which
means you have to use (well, I should say get to use) Actionscript
3.0.
Incorrect
Hey, if you're doing well with AS2, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's not going away for a long time.
I disagree with that - what happens when you lose your job and have to
put your resume out there? And IMO, it's nearly almost gone away
anyway. Sure Flash player supports it still, but
I tend to agree with Jason here, I am a freelancer and I have missed
out on a lot of jobs because I am not an AS3 developer.
Your probably right on the ease of use and the functionality of AS3
being better, otherwise what would be the use of creating AS3.
Again, thanks for all your comments.
Good idea.. thx
On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:
Ask questions here, like I used to do
this in AS2, how do I do that in AS3? - also look at the migration
guides - they will show you how everything changed.
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:56 PM
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Thanks for that Kerry.
I want to learn AS3, I really do, but it takes too much time away
from
, 2010 4:56 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Thanks for that Kerry.
I want to learn AS3, I really do, but it takes too much time away
from making money for me that I find myself missing out. :(
I wish it was easier to make the transition, but then everyone
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:08 PM
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I tend to agree with Jason here, I am a freelancer and I have missed
out on a lot of jobs because
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:25 PM
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LOL, I need one of those printed migration chart posters
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
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I
, 2010 8:25 PM
To: Flash Coders List
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LOL, I need one of those printed migration chart posters to put on my
wall.
That would probably do it.
:)
Karl
On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW) wrote:
I didn't use AS3 until I had
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List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Hey, if you're doing well with AS2, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's not going away for a long time.
Jason is right, and to his point:
The interactive industry is probably one of the the fastest changing
industries in the world
reading through the docs for robot legs left me feeling a bit lost
wth is [Inject] and why have i never heard of it before?
a
On 29 March 2010 23:54, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.net wrote:
MVC Public Service Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91C7ax0UAAc
If you want to learn
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Sent: 29 March 2010 11:55
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MVC Public Service Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91C7ax0UAAc
If you want to learn about MVC
else, since Flash would be
handling presentation and logic.
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Sent: 29 March 2010 6:04
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[mailto:flashcoders-
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Sent: 29 March 2010 6:04
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
there is plenty of commentary out there to suggest that the
controller is
largely unnecessary
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boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lafser
Sent: 29 March 2010 6:37
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When I've implemented MVC:
* I have one
If you know the basics of MVC, then you should be able to learn RobotLegs.
[Inject] is SwiftSuspenders metadata, which RobotLegs uses.
Just because it's foreign to you doesn't mean it's not worth learning.
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30, 2010 1:35 PM
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If you know the basics of MVC, then you should be able to learn
RobotLegs.
[Inject] is SwiftSuspenders metadata, which RobotLegs uses.
Just because it's foreign to you doesn't mean it's not worth learning
RobotLegs was built for AS3, not Flex. I am using it in a pure AS3 project
right now.
It's easy to setup for Flash IDE.
http://www.helmutgranda.com/2009/12/02/robotlegs-and-flash-ide-cs4-injection/
Believe me, it's worth learning. RobotLegs is amazing.
though obviously, using mxmlc to compile makes it a lot easier.
FlashDevelop, FDT, FlexBuilder, anything can be used to compile Flash without
Flash (or Flex).
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RobotLegs was built for AS3, not Flex. I am using it in a pure AS3
project
right now.
It's easy to setup for Flash IDE.
http://www.helmutgranda.com/2009/12/02/robotlegs-and-flash-ide-cs4-injec
tion/
Believe me, it's worth
FlashDevelop, FDT, FlexBuilder, anything can be used to compile Flash
without
Flash (or Flex).
Well... yes, but with the Flex SDK as the compiler- not entirely on
their own.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash
Hi Jason,
Real quick question.
Kind-of based off what you guys are talking about.
I currently work in Flash CS3 in AS2.
I was wanting to try one of the other flash developing programs out
there,
but it seems the new releases of the ones you listed below are more
AS3 geared.
Can I still
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Or am I the last AS2 developer on the planet and just need to get in line to
the AS3 3rd period class?
I do recommend AS3, but you're far from the last doing AS2. I just
finished up a 4-month AS2 contract, and last I heard, they were still
looking for contractors who
Thanks for that Kerry.
I want to learn AS3, I really do, but it takes too much time away
from making money for me that I find myself missing out. :(
I wish it was easier to make the transition, but then everyone would
be a AS3 developer, right.
*Sigh*
Best,
Karl
On Mar 30, 2010, at 4:50
2010 16:55:47
To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Thanks for that Kerry.
I want to learn AS3, I really do, but it takes too much time away
from making money for me that I find myself missing out. :(
I wish it was easier
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
I want to learn AS3, I really do, but it takes too much time away from
making money for me that I find myself missing out. :(
I wish it was easier to make the transition, but then everyone would be a
AS3 developer, right.
Hey, if you're doing well with AS2, there's
Thanks guys for your responses.
Kerry,
Too true. I've had to teach myself PHP, XML, MySQL, Javascript and I
already knew HTML before I learned flash.
I know there are a lot of AS2 jobs out there, but I live in a major
city and major cities don't dwell in the older languages.
So yeah, the
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 11:26 a.m.
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?
Thanks guys for your responses.
Kerry,
Too true. I've had
Hi List,
Ok, this may sound a bit odd coming from someone who's been coding with MVC
for the last 7 years, but I seem to be missing the point of a Controller...
I'm hoping to start a discussion to help me (and maybe others like me)
improve my architecture by better understanding the Controller,
the way i understand it, the controller is supposed to provide the logic and
functionality for the views as well as acting as an intermediary between the
view and the model (my version fires events back to the views but others use
the controller to pass events back from the model to the view as
allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote:
if you look at the html / php / mysql model, mvc has a very natural flow -
the mysql database and the php interact much like the controller (php) and
the model (mysql) and the result is then fed to the views (the served html
page).
I do not
there is plenty of commentary out there to suggest that the controller is
largely unnecessary and that the views can do it all as encapsulated objects
(i've even read something by someone much smarter than me [
http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?MvcIsNotObjectOriented] that suggested that the c
in
:)
On 29 March 2010 18:03, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
there is plenty of commentary out there to suggest that the controller is
largely unnecessary and that the views can do it all as encapsulated
objects
(i've even read something by someone much smarter than me [
When I've implemented MVC:
* I have one controller for each view
* Each view knows about it's controller, but only as a generic
controller (either as an interface or a base class)
* Each View registers it's controller as the event listener for each of
it's buttons.
MVC Public Service Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91C7ax0UAAc
If you want to learn about MVC, pick up the Ruby on Rails book.
I suggest you use RobotLegs, which uses Mediators and Commands instead of
Controllers. RobotLegs is better suited for the world of Flash than MVC, which
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