[Flashcoders] formal qualifications

2009-04-17 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
Hey guys

I'm one of those flash coders that has come into the industry by starting as
an enthusiast while doing print for a living and realising that i had more
affinity with actionscript than many of the people i was talking to in
digital departments and going full-time but I don't have any formal
quailifications.

Do you think it's worth going back to school to get the title, even tho i've
been working in the industry as a full-time programmer for a few years now
or not? And how many of the fc'ers have formal programming/design
qualifications?

The reason I ask is the recent job listing for a senior level flash
programmer on this list that had accepted and preferred qualifications even
though a lot of the syntax that you can learn would be irrelevant within 3/4
years of starting work (tho many of the theory behind them would probably be
valid for a while)?


thanks a lot
alz
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RE: [Flashcoders] formal qualifications

2009-04-17 Thread Merrill, Jason
I think it all depends on what type of company you want to work for.
Some places will be looking for people with certain kinds of educational
degrees, some will not.  Since my group at Bank of America does
multimedia for learning/training purposes, we look for formalized
degrees in instructional technology in addition to their multimedia and
programming skills.  It really does help in my field.  Other places
really don't care, they just want someone who has an impressive
portfolio, skillset and a passion.  Some companies who get work by
obtaining contracts with say, other companies or the U.S. Government
will want people with degrees, especially graduate degrees because they
are in turn trying to sell their employee's skillset they are offering
if they get the work, in order to win the contract.  But take a company
that develops online games - they would probably rather have someone who
has experience developing games, mad programming skills, graphic design
skills, bow hunting skills, etc. than someone who has a formal degree in
computer science.  That said, if you were the hiring manager for a
company like Google, and you were comparing two resumes and they are
both identical in every way, programming, work experience, multimedia
community involvement, graphic design portfolio, etc. etc. and other
factors were the same and the only difference was one had a master's
degree in computer science, the candidate with the degree would have the
advantage.  

So it really depends on what kind of company/entity you want to work
for.  In many cases, you won't need it, but possessing degrees and
certifications would never of course be a negative factor.


Jason Merrill 

Bank of  America   Global Learning 
Shared Services Solutions Development 

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Re: [Flashcoders] formal qualifications

2009-04-17 Thread Pedro Kostelec
So it really depends on what kind of company/entity you want to work
for.  In many cases, you won't need it, but possessing degrees and
certifications would never of course be a negative factor.
The could never be a negative factor is country related. I
most countries it is true, but in some (e.g. Slovenia) the salary is related
to the degree and if they don't really need someone with a high degree, they
will rather employ the one with the lower degree.


Pedro Kostelec
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