Re: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
All well and good, but the government wants business reasons and not technical abilities. As someone else noted, point out the security upgrades as a starting point. Then include tangible reasons such as better performance of course ware. More robust user experience because of better video support of e-learning materials. In other words you have to spin the enhances to fit the clients needs. But having worked into the government sector for a while, your project is not likely to grease the wheels alone or even in a timely manner for your project. But it doesn't hurt to try. :) Charles P. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are some good arguments for upgrading? I need to be able to convince him that this is the way to go! http://gskinner.com/talks/as3workshop/ and especially: http://gskinner.com/talks/50reasonsAS3/ Jason Merrill Bank of America GCIB Staff Support LLD Instructional Technology Media Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
The client is convinced that the Flash 9 has not permeated government systems yet. My point of view is how will we ever move forward unless we put the requirement out there? He does not want to force our students to upgrade their plug-ins, with as difficult it is to get technical support in the government (users have no control over their systems and there is a long approval process to get new software, even plug-ins approved). What are some good arguments for upgrading? I need to be able to convince him that this is the way to go! Any words of wisdom you could provide would be very much appreciated! Thank you! Susan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:52 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2? Importance: Low How can anyone know how much effort is involved? It'll depend on how your code is written. What is sure is that it'll be a ton of work. Why does your client want to revert to AS2? If they insist you'll just have to charge accordingly. I reverted an AS3 video/slide player to AS2 and it was a PIA because the code was close to what it should be but had so many differences because the classes involved had changed between AS2 and AS3. It'd probably have been easier to dump the AS3 code and start from scratch. I'd probably do everything possible to not go back. Try and educate you client that it's a huge amount of work and one day they'll still want to go forward to AS3. Paul - Original Message - From: Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2? I know this seems like a backwards question... but my client has requested (300 plus fla's later) that we revert our code back to AS2. I was wondering if there was a quick way to do this. When I ran my first piece in AS2 and it was searching for the event class. I was wondering if there was a quick way around this... like somehow incorporating the event class into an AS2 piece or will this piece completely have to be rewritten? Thanks! Susan ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
What are some good arguments for upgrading? I need to be able to convince him that this is the way to go! http://gskinner.com/talks/as3workshop/ and especially: http://gskinner.com/talks/50reasonsAS3/ Jason Merrill Bank of America GCIB Staff Support LLD Instructional Technology Media Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
If you look at the Adobe-published Flash Player penetration rate, the
difference between Flash Player 7 and Flash Player 8 probably isn't
statistically significant. .03 %?
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
Granted, this is Adobe published despite references listed at the bottom,
and government agencies may be behind the curve {insert joke}
-jonathan
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The client is convinced that the Flash 9 has not permeated government
systems yet. My point of view is how will we ever move forward unless
we put the requirement out there? He does not want to force our students
to upgrade their plug-ins, with as difficult it is to get technical
support in the government (users have no control over their systems and
there is a long approval process to get new software, even plug-ins
approved).
What are some good arguments for upgrading? I need to be able to
convince him that this is the way to go!
Any words of wisdom you could provide would be very much appreciated!
Thank you!
Susan
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:52 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back
to AS2?
Importance: Low
How can anyone know how much effort is involved?
It'll depend on how your code is written. What is sure is that it'll be
a
ton of work.
Why does your client want to revert to AS2?
If they insist you'll just have to charge accordingly.
I reverted an AS3 video/slide player to AS2 and it was a PIA because the
code was close to what it should be but had so many differences because
the
classes involved had changed between AS2 and AS3. It'd probably have
been
easier to dump the AS3 code and start from scratch.
I'd probably do everything possible to not go back. Try and educate you
client that it's a huge amount of work and one day they'll still want to
go
forward to AS3.
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
I know this seems like a backwards question... but my client has
requested (300 plus fla's later) that we revert our code back to AS2. I
was wondering if there was a quick way to do this. When I ran my first
piece in AS2 and it was searching for the event class. I was wondering
if there was a quick way around this... like somehow incorporating the
event class into an AS2 piece or will this piece completely have to be
rewritten?
Thanks!
Susan
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RE: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
Oh, and probably the best argument to your boss is the security fixes in Flash player 9 which takes care of issues in previous versions Jason Merrill Bank of America GCIB Staff Support LLD Instructional Technology Media Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:16 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2? What are some good arguments for upgrading? I need to be able to convince him that this is the way to go! http://gskinner.com/talks/as3workshop/ and especially: http://gskinner.com/talks/50reasonsAS3/ Jason Merrill Bank of America GCIB Staff Support LLD Instructional Technology Media Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] Is there a quick way to convert back to AS2?
Hi, I would suggest maybe talking to some of the IT people at the places where you want to roll out your Flash stuff and ask them if they have Flash Player 9 on any of the computers. I know some people who work in Local Government over here who rolled out Flash Player 9, as a network upgrade. The IT people in your target institutions are going to be the best placed to answer that question and if they have not got FP9, they are also the best people to convince that upgrading due to security issues is the best way to go - I am guessing as you have a .mil address, security might be an important factor to people you need to speak to :) Although, there is always the chance that this may ruffle some feathers - I hate office politics... Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
