Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-23 Thread Mick G
Hey no laughing - my point was that they support PHP, nothing more :P On 6/23/06, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick G schrieb: You can build a fully blown database driven site in Dreamweaver (allbeit not perfect code) LOL ___

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread stacey
Depends on your knowledge level too CF is dead easy to pick up - you can easily learn to create a CFC in no time. The class based structure of PHP when creating a service throws a couple people off in terms of scope resolution So depending on your background if you know neither language,

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
But unless I am totally wrong, AMFPHP wasn't out of beta until recently. And it isn't officially supported by Adobe/MM, or if it is, it wasn't until recently. CF is. Macromedia doesn't support free technologies that are in direct competition with their technologies. Why would they? If you

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Dave Watts
ColdFusion is a way for inexperienced coders to code middleware. CF is nowhere near as good as .NET, PHP, Java or Ruby. If you know how to code, don't waste your time with CF and dive right in to one of the far better middleware solutions (Ruby on Rails anyone?). I would take issue

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Mick G
Macromedia doesn't support free technologies that are in direct competition with their technologies. Why would they? I always wondered why MM support PHP in Dreamweaver but refuse to do so for Flash with a PHP remoting. You can build a fully blown database driven site in Dreamweaver (allbeit

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Merrill, Jason
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:38 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions ColdFusion is a way for inexperienced coders to code middleware. CF

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Dave Watts
I can't speak for Ruby, but unfortunately I've found CF is a much harder sell over .NET only because of the cost, whereas a lot of enterprises already have the infrastructure set up to handle .NET applications so they've essentially already paid for it. Plus, cost aside, convincing the

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Weyert de Boer
It's even hard to convince my dad to install Ruby on our webservers. Don't that I really /care/ about Ruby either,I don't really like the syntax of it. I would prefer Python over Ruby for sure. But I would use .NET anytime where possible. The problem I mainly have with CF is that it needs a

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Dave Watts
I thought Bank of America was a flagship CF environment! http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=casestud ydetailcasestudyid=98723loc=en_us http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/proven/ But anyway, at this point I'm pretty much off-topic, so this'll be my last response

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Merrill, Jason
I thought Bank of America was a flagship CF environment! Bank of America has over 172,000 employees - so you can imagine we have more than one server and more than one server admin. :) I haven't heard CF mentioned once, but I've only been here 2 months. You sent those Adobe links - that doesn't

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Sajid Saiyed
I prefer PHP with Flash. I find many PHP functions very easy to do the job that could take a while doing within Flash. I also feel PHP has a much larger support community. -- Sajid On 6/22/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought Bank of America was a flagship CF environment!

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Nisi
Rails and JSON (http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/JSON+Webservice+Plugin) -- because it's fun and your backend isn't bound to flash. Regards, Michael On 6/22/06, Sajid Saiyed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer PHP with Flash. I find many PHP functions very easy to do the job that could

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Mike Boutin
Take a look into amfphp and Flash Remoting at http://amfphp.org/ Mike Boutin Jorge Antonio Diaz Gutierrez wrote: Hi everyone: There are differents ways to comunicate Flash Action Script with Data Bases. One of the most used is XML generation trough PHP. I would like to hear about

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Robson
Jorge: I like using Flash Remoting with ColdFusion components for the following reasons: 1. Fast development 2. Flexibility: using Remoting and CFCs, you can move a variety of data types over the pipe 3. Extensibility 4. Maintainability 5. Fast data transfers (can be much more efficient than

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
AMFPHP is faster and easier to implement than CF Remoting, IMO. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Robson
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:00 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions AMFPHP is faster and easier to implement than CF Remoting, IMO

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Dave Watts
AMFPHP is faster and easier to implement than CF Remoting, IMO. How so? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:16 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions AMFPHP is faster and easier to implement than CF Remoting, IMO. How so? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread bryan.rice
On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Jim Robson wrote: I really don't think anything is faster to implement than CFCs and Remoting. You just build the CFC, set access=remote, and you're done on the server side. I completely agree - especially when you are doing authentication and serving

RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions

2006-06-21 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:16 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best Flash data access way opinions AMFPHP is faster and easier to implement than CF Remoting, IMO. How so