Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Cool. Thanks. I'll have to try this. On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Actually you have to put a "stopAllsounds" on the frame that is after the end of your animation. Or you can set the frame to sync to the event instead of the stream. Flash does not sync the stream of an animation and a sound well because of the difference in compression ratios. This has been my experience and that is my solution. Hth Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 21, 2009, at 7:58 PM, "Kurt Dommermuth" > wrote: Hi Kerry, I'm not the original poster, but I'll add myself to the list of people who've experienced this. It's definitely a bug and it's been around for some time. More details than that would take too long for a family man to put together, but it's not hard to reproduce. In the typical scenario you have a timeline based animation. You put a stop at the end of it. In the next frame, in a different layer, add a keyframe and put a sound from the libray on it. Set it to stream. Let you're animation play. It will stop at the correct frame, but the sound will play even though it is located after the frame where you put your stop(). Fix it by adding more frames between the frame where the stop() is and where the streaming sound is. Take care. Kurt -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'Flash Coders List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early? Dave Dev wrote: I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using Flash Player 8. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders David Benman Interactive Developer d...@dbenman.com http://www.dbenman.com (508) 954-1202 (cell) (315) 637-8487 (home office) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Oh, just noticed some other posts on this, but here's some responses. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Flash CS4 on the Mac compiling to Flash Player 9 using AS2. Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Library sound in .wav format set to streaming. Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? On the timeline. Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. I'd believe that, but its pretty straightforward what I'm doing. Import wav sound, drag to timeline, set to stream. The kink seems to be when you but the last frame and first frame of a "scene" right up against each other which I do for neatness. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders David Benman Interactive Developer d...@dbenman.com http://www.dbenman.com (508) 954-1202 (cell) (315) 637-8487 (home office) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Hey. Thanks. Jim said this too so that's what I did and it seems to work. Scary though. I have a suspicion that it might be an issue again on really slow machines. On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote: Hi Kerry, I'm not the original poster, but I'll add myself to the list of people who've experienced this. It's definitely a bug and it's been around for some time. More details than that would take too long for a family man to put together, but it's not hard to reproduce. In the typical scenario you have a timeline based animation. You put a stop at the end of it. In the next frame, in a different layer, add a keyframe and put a sound from the libray on it. Set it to stream. Let you're animation play. It will stop at the correct frame, but the sound will play even though it is located after the frame where you put your stop(). Fix it by adding more frames between the frame where the stop() is and where the streaming sound is. Take care. Kurt -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'Flash Coders List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early? Dave Dev wrote: I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using Flash Player 8. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders David Benman Interactive Developer d...@dbenman.com http://www.dbenman.com (508) 954-1202 (cell) (315) 637-8487 (home office) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
If you need the timeline animation to match its ending to the sounds
ending, you will need to script your sound and not put it on a actual
frame.
Then have a function that matches the beginning of your animation to
the beginning of your sound and not play anything till both are loaded.
Also your sound and your animation have to be the same as far as length.
Try timing your animation and sound separately on your desktop. See
if they match.
Script your sound as an imported sound, create a Loader so that the
animations frames are already loaded before your start playing anything.
something like, but not exactly.. just for example
if(sound.loaded = complete && frames.loaded = compete) {
play();
}
HTH
Karl
On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Actually you have to put a "stopAllsounds" on the frame that is
after the end of your animation. Or you can set the frame to sync
to the event instead of the stream. Flash does not sync the stream
of an animation and a sound well because of the difference in
compression ratios. This has been my experience and that is my
solution.
Hth
Karl
Sent from losPhone
On Oct 21, 2009, at 7:58 PM, "Kurt Dommermuth"
wrote:
Hi Kerry,
I'm not the original poster, but I'll add myself to the list of
people
who've experienced this.
It's definitely a bug and it's been around for some time.
More details than that would take too long for a family man to put
together,
but it's not hard to reproduce.
In the typical scenario you have a timeline based animation. You
put a stop
at the end of it. In the next frame, in a different layer, add a
keyframe
and put a sound from the libray on it. Set it to stream.
Let you're animation play. It will stop at the correct frame, but
the sound
will play even though it is located after the frame where you put
your
stop().
Fix it by adding more frames between the frame where the stop() is
and where
the streaming sound is.
Take care.
Kurt
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry
Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:28 AM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Dave Dev wrote:
I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame
has a
streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at
the stop
command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the
streaming sound
in
the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and
command seems
to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS
X using
Flash Player 8.
Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the
library, or
in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command,
or is it
on the time line?
Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds
like a
bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and
fixed long
ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't
know
about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of.
Cordially,
Kerry Thompson
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Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Actually you have to put a "stopAllsounds" on the frame that is after the end of your animation. Or you can set the frame to sync to the event instead of the stream. Flash does not sync the stream of an animation and a sound well because of the difference in compression ratios. This has been my experience and that is my solution. Hth Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 21, 2009, at 7:58 PM, "Kurt Dommermuth" wrote: Hi Kerry, I'm not the original poster, but I'll add myself to the list of people who've experienced this. It's definitely a bug and it's been around for some time. More details than that would take too long for a family man to put together, but it's not hard to reproduce. In the typical scenario you have a timeline based animation. You put a stop at the end of it. In the next frame, in a different layer, add a keyframe and put a sound from the libray on it. Set it to stream. Let you're animation play. It will stop at the correct frame, but the sound will play even though it is located after the frame where you put your stop(). Fix it by adding more frames between the frame where the stop() is and where the streaming sound is. Take care. Kurt -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'Flash Coders List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early? Dave Dev wrote: I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using Flash Player 8. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Hi Kerry, I'm not the original poster, but I'll add myself to the list of people who've experienced this. It's definitely a bug and it's been around for some time. More details than that would take too long for a family man to put together, but it's not hard to reproduce. In the typical scenario you have a timeline based animation. You put a stop at the end of it. In the next frame, in a different layer, add a keyframe and put a sound from the libray on it. Set it to stream. Let you're animation play. It will stop at the correct frame, but the sound will play even though it is located after the frame where you put your stop(). Fix it by adding more frames between the frame where the stop() is and where the streaming sound is. Take care. Kurt -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'Flash Coders List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early? Dave Dev wrote: > I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a > streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop > command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in > the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems > to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using > Flash Player 8. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Dave Dev wrote: > I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a > streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop > command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in > the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems > to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using > Flash Player 8. Hmm... which version of Flash are you using? Is the sound in the library, or in an external audio file? Is the sound played with an AS command, or is it on the time line? Sorry to ask so many questions. The way you describe it, it sounds like a bug in Flash, but something like that should have been found and fixed long ago. I suspect there's more going on--possibly something you don't know about, or that treats the audio in a way you haven't thought of. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Timeline Streaming Sounds Playing Early?
Dave Dev wrote: I have a frame with a stop actionscript command. The next frame has a streaming sounds and a frame label. At runtime, Flash stops at the stop command frame, but then plays a very brief portion of the streaming sound in the next frame. Placing some frames in between the sound and command seems to fix(?) the problem. This occurs on Windows XP, but not Mac OS X using Flash Player 8. Has anybody else encountered this? I want to make sure my fix stays fix in different player versions and Os's. We had the same problem. In our case it also happened on MacOS, playing the movie on slower CPUs. Our project was published for FP9 or later. (FWIW, we were developing in AS2.) We worked around it in a similar manner - we created several extra frames after the frame containing the stop action - and it seems to be OK. -Jim ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
