RE: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-24 Thread Andrew Murphy 
The company I work for does online surveys (amongst other things) and they
can include showing people images of proposed products/campaigns/etc.  A
client asked if we can keep our panelists from keeping copies.

Our response has been, "No.  But we can make it a little more difficult."
So they asked us to research any means for making it more difficult that we
could come up with.  I couldn't think of any way to get around the Print
Screen key, so I thought I'd ask here and see if anyone else had done it.

I like the cleverness of the System.setClipboard method, except that it
could make for a poor user experience and doesn't completely fix the
problem.

C'est la vie.

Thank you all for sharing your insights with me. ^_^



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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of sebastian
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key
> 
> It's one of those things where 'abuse' comes to mind. Short 
> of not allowing flash to do such a thing, if such an 
> overwrite of the clip-board is occurring there should be a 
> warning to the user, otherwise they might wonder why they 
> can't use copy-paste anymore!
> 
> I wonder what it is that would be so critical you don't want 
> a screen shot...?
> 
> I've never seen a system that stops someone from taking a 
> screen shot when they still really wanted one, in the end 
> it's just an annoying feature that disrupts everyone's time/sanity!
> 
> With kind,
> 
> Seb.
> 
> Pedro Taranto wrote:
> > Thanks for remember that Jim, I forgot to say that it just 
> worked on 
> > windows in my tests it didnt work on linux nor mac, but it 
> was OK for 
> > the project I developed
> > 
> > but you have to remember that the user wont be able to copy 
> anything 
> > while your flash is running, even in the background
> > 
> > --
> > Pedro Taranto
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Jim McIntyre 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> If you have any Macs in your target audience, remember 
> that the OS's 
> >> screen capture routine doesn't involve the clipboard, but 
> creates a 
> >> PNG file directly on the desktop.
> >>
> >> Remember too that there is a variety of screen grab utilities out 
> >> there on either platform... this might be a losing battle.
> >>
> >> -Jim
> >>
> >> Pedro Taranto wrote:
> >>
> >>> In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the 
> >>> clipboard content using the System.setClipboard(string) 
> function, it 
> >>> still works in
> >>> AS3
> >>>
> >>> Bests,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Pedro Taranto
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andrew Murphy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button 
> for an AS3 
> >>>> movie on a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a 
> >>>> KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN when the Print Screen key is pressed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or 
> another method 
> >>>> for disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen 
> screen cap of 
> >>>> a Flash movie?
> >>>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-24 Thread sebastian 
It's one of those things where 'abuse' comes to mind. Short of not 
allowing flash to do such a thing, if such an overwrite of the 
clip-board is occurring there should be a warning to the user, otherwise 
they might wonder why they can't use copy-paste anymore!


I wonder what it is that would be so critical you don't want a screen 
shot...?


I've never seen a system that stops someone from taking a screen shot 
when they still really wanted one, in the end it's just an annoying 
feature that disrupts everyone's time/sanity!


With kind,

Seb.

Pedro Taranto wrote:

Thanks for remember that Jim, I forgot to say that it just worked on windows
in my tests it didnt work on linux nor mac, but it was OK for the project I
developed

but you have to remember that the user wont be able to copy anything while
your flash is running, even in the background

--
Pedro Taranto


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If you have any Macs in your target audience, remember that the OS's screen
capture routine doesn't involve the clipboard, but creates a PNG file
directly on the desktop.

Remember too that there is a variety of screen grab utilities out there on
either platform... this might be a losing battle.

-Jim

Pedro Taranto wrote:


In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the clipboard
content using the System.setClipboard(string) function, it still works in
AS3

Bests,

--
Pedro Taranto


Andrew Murphy wrote:


Hi. :)

I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie
on
a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN
when
the Print Screen key is pressed.

Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
movie?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-24 Thread Pedro Taranto 
Thanks for remember that Jim, I forgot to say that it just worked on windows
in my tests it didnt work on linux nor mac, but it was OK for the project I
developed

but you have to remember that the user wont be able to copy anything while
your flash is running, even in the background

--
Pedro Taranto


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you have any Macs in your target audience, remember that the OS's screen
> capture routine doesn't involve the clipboard, but creates a PNG file
> directly on the desktop.
>
> Remember too that there is a variety of screen grab utilities out there on
> either platform... this might be a losing battle.
>
> -Jim
>
> Pedro Taranto wrote:
>
>> In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the clipboard
>> content using the System.setClipboard(string) function, it still works in
>> AS3
>>
>> Bests,
>>
>> --
>> Pedro Taranto
>>
>>
>> Andrew Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. :)
>>>
>>> I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie
>>> on
>>> a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN
>>> when
>>> the Print Screen key is pressed.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
>>> disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
>>> movie?
>>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-24 Thread Jim McIntyre 
If you have any Macs in your target audience, remember that the OS's 
screen capture routine doesn't involve the clipboard, but creates a PNG 
file directly on the desktop.


Remember too that there is a variety of screen grab utilities out there 
on either platform... this might be a losing battle.


-Jim

Pedro Taranto wrote:
In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the clipboard 
content using the System.setClipboard(string) function, it still works 
in AS3


Bests,

--
Pedro Taranto


Andrew Murphy wrote:

Hi. :)

I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 
movie on
a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN 
when

the Print Screen key is pressed.

Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
movie?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread sebastian 

naughty!

Pedro Taranto wrote:
In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the clipboard 
content using the System.setClipboard(string) function, it still works 
in AS3


Bests,

--
Pedro Taranto


Andrew Murphy wrote:

Hi. :)

I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 
movie on
a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN 
when

the Print Screen key is pressed.

Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
movie?



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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Pedro Taranto 
In AS2 I used to create an onEnterFrame loop to overwrite the clipboard 
content using the System.setClipboard(string) function, it still works 
in AS3


Bests,

--
Pedro Taranto


Andrew Murphy wrote:

Hi. :)

I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie on
a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN when
the Print Screen key is pressed.

Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
movie?



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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Wichman 
yes, thats my point: he wants to avoid, and it isn't possible to do so

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Fabio Pinatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ??
> I think he wants avoid screen grab, not take it. It's a good point, I've
> never heard about a way to do it. Maybe with JS?
>
> Pinatti
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Hans Wichman <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If they want to grab your screen... they will...
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+grabber
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi. :)
>> >
>> > I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie
>> on
>> > a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN
>> when
>> > the Print Screen key is pressed.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
>> > disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
>> > movie?
>> >
>> >
>> > 
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>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Fabio Pinatti 
btw, I cant live without stealing flash screen grabs. :)

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Glen Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> All your Flash are belong to us :)
>
> You can't stop them nicking - (stealing) - content, so just give them a
> substandard version, or make money from your IP in other ways.
>
> Fabio Pinatti wrote:
>
>> ??
>>
>> I think he wants avoid screen grab, not take it. It's a good point, I've
>> never heard about a way to do it. Maybe with JS?
>>
>> Pinatti
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Hans Wichman <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> If they want to grab your screen... they will...
>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+grabber
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Hi. :)

 I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie


>>> on
>>>
>>>
 a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN


>>> when
>>>
>>>
 the Print Screen key is pressed.

 Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
 disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
 movie?


 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Glen Pike 

All your Flash are belong to us :)

You can't stop them nicking - (stealing) - content, so just give them a 
substandard version, or make money from your IP in other ways.


Fabio Pinatti wrote:

??
I think he wants avoid screen grab, not take it. It's a good point, I've
never heard about a way to do it. Maybe with JS?

Pinatti

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Hans Wichman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

If they want to grab your screen... they will...
http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+grabber


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Hi. :)

I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie
  

on


a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN
  

when


the Print Screen key is pressed.

Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
movie?



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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Fabio Pinatti 
??
I think he wants avoid screen grab, not take it. It's a good point, I've
never heard about a way to do it. Maybe with JS?

Pinatti

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Hans Wichman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If they want to grab your screen... they will...
> http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+grabber
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi. :)
> >
> > I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie
> on
> > a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN
> when
> > the Print Screen key is pressed.
> >
> > Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
> > disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
> > movie?
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Wichman 
If they want to grab your screen... they will...
http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+grabber


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi. :)
>
> I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie on
> a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN when
> the Print Screen key is pressed.
>
> Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
> disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
> movie?
>
>
> 
> Andrew Murphy
> Interactive Media Specialist
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Flashcoders] Disabling Print Screen key

2008-10-23 Thread Eric E. Dolecki 
Since thats at an operating system level, I don't think you could do
anything. If it's a kiosk, have a keyboard without that button, for every
one else, you're stuck.
What would you try to do with the keypress for that key anyway? By the time
you received it (if Flash had focus), it would already be too late to do
anything (ie. hide your flash content on the stage).

I would be surprised if you can do what you want.

Eric

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> Hi. :)
>
> I'm attempting to disable using the Print Screen button for an AS3 movie on
> a web page.  The stage doesn't appear to fire a KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN when
> the Print Screen key is pressed.
>
> Is there a way to detect the Print Screen key?  Or another method for
> disabling the user's ability to do a Print Screen screen cap of a Flash
> movie?
>
>
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