Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread Scott Whittaker
Hi guys, I haven't had a chance to delve into using AS3 yet, and I know the AS1 and AS3 runtime engines in the Flash 9 player are totally seperate, but is it not possible for AS2 movies to share data with AS3 at all? Surely an AS3 movie can load an AS2 movie into itself and access it's

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread Austin Kottke
Anything is possible :) You can use flashinterface to communicate with as2 components and then return the events back. That would be possible. It just makes it a lot more cumbersome -- that's all. The flashinterface package is quite sophisticated as it uses localconnection to return and

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread Muzak
- From: Scott Whittaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Hi guys, I haven't had a chance to delve into using AS3 yet, and I know the AS1 and AS3 runtime engines

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread Ian Thomas
. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Scott Whittaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Hi guys, I haven't had a chance to delve into using AS3 yet, and I

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread greg h
Ian, thank you for the link on Robert Taylor's FlashInterface. Regarding Scott's intuitive response, the responses by Austin, Muzak and Ian pretty much tell the story. When I used the word stupefying the other day this is what I meant. Just to recap: AS2 to AS3 - At runtime can only integrate

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-07 Thread Muzak
. For starters, 40k data limit. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Scott Whittaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Hi guys, I haven't had

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread Merrill, Jason
Regarding Jason's question, NO. As yet Flash CS3 has no AS3 classes/components for WebService or Remoting. And no where have I seen any promised. (I would like to see them, so if anyone from Adobe is on this list and might like to tell us that there one day will be Flash CS3 AS3 Data

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread David Ngo
? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:36 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Regarding Jason's question, NO. As yet

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread Merrill, Jason
There's a F8/AS2 version of Papervision, though I'd probably suggest going the F9/AS3 route. As far as Remoting/WebServices, I'm pretty sure they'll come out with an add-on package like they did with the previous versions. On top of that, if you wanted to build a Flash App, why not just use

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread Merrill, Jason
I have posted a new thread here on FlashCoders with the subject line Flash Remoting for Flash CS3 AS3. Cool. How about calling a WSDL - Webservice? Not possible in CS3? Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread greg h
Jason, Regarding How about calling a WSDL - Webservice? Not possible in CS3? First I just want to rephrase that as Flash CS3 AS3 because for the AS2 components (aka V2 components) nothing has changed from Flash MX 2004 to Flash 8 to Flash CS3 (except FLVPlayback being introduced with Flash 8).

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-06 Thread Merrill, Jason
Wow, thanks for that post. Excellent information. That's a huge blow. So basically when it comes to Flash CS3 with AS3 all of us who have been using Webservices classes in Flash and want to keep doing so have only a few choices: 1) Learn Flex instead and try and make what you want to do in

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component andWebService.

2007-06-05 Thread Hairy Dog Digital
The complaint is that there's no AS3 version of the Data components and some UI Components (like the Tree) And that really bites because I use and abuse the Tree component on a regular basis in my AS2 / Flash MX04/8 projects! ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Yes, who would have believed that Flash CS3 would yield AS3 components that are: - a reduced set of UI components from AS2 - no data components - elimination of databinding And as Randy points out, all this in the run up to Microsoft's Silverlight release. Based on my decades of

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
What is the alternative to a tree component in CS3 within the Adobe world - is there something in Flex which replaces it? Yes, there is a nice Tree component in Flex. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Yes, Flex has AS3 versions of all of the components that Flash 8 had and then some. That is the point. The message is pretty clear: If you want a comprehensive, state of the art component set use Flex. You can preview the full set of Flex UI components here:

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
I think the main factor on the components was more of a time factor to meet with the CS3 release timing as opposed to just removing functionality. Most new releases of a software don't remove functionality, but deprecate it. Removing something like the tree component or web services from

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Message - From: Mark Mulhollam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. I have used the tree extensively on my own website and am pretty disappointed in Adobe. What

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
files (like the Tree) are available, so you might be able to just grab those. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
Everything, including webservices and flash remoting was already there, written for Flex 2. Unfortunatly you can not just grab the webservice/remoting source files and copy them over to Flash, they're compiled as a swc file. So dumb question, I haven't looked and don't have CS3 yet, but are

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
- Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. ___ Flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
You can do remoting with Netconnection.calls. Web Services are nonexistent for flash player 9 apps created in flash 9 cs3. We definitely need to get this integrated fully. Merrill, Jason wrote: Everything, including webservices and flash remoting was already there, written for Flex 2.

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Claus Wahlers
Apparently the flash 9 cs3 compiler uses the same compiler so I dont see why this couldnt be done to integrate parts of the flex framework components into flash. That would be awesome. That's not as easy as it sounds. Base classes work differently, styling works differently, etc pp, Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Regarding Jason's question, NO. As yet Flash CS3 has no AS3 classes/components for WebService or Remoting. And no where have I seen any promised. (I would like to see them, so if anyone from Adobe is on this list and might like to tell us that there one day will be Flash CS3 AS3 Data

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
Good points. My only thing on the upgrading is, you make an application that includes some components from version 8. You then get the new software (version 9) and try to port an application over to use it in version 9 to take advantage of the speed and other features, etc. Skinning, e4X -

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Spot on Austin. Yup. You then get the new software ... and try to port an application and You then cannot ... because you ... have ... components ... missing. Yes sirree, that is how I figured it out. Regarding It would be good if Adobe could make an official statement on this. Like maybe a

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-02 Thread Randy Tinfow
Adobe has put the axe to the tree component and many other components requiring you to use Flex if you want to use them. Which is the prod that finally has me looking seriously at Silverlight this weekend. We have money and projects set aside for our first forays into CS3, but this makes

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-02 Thread Rene Skou
Hi You have to choose AS 2.0 inorder to use the tree component if you use AS 3.0 som components are missing 2007/6/1, Ung, Seng [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone noticed that the tree component is missing from the CS3 Web Premium prof. copy after the installation? Is there a link from Adobe site

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-02 Thread Randy Tinfow
You have to choose AS 2.0 inorder to use the tree component if you use AS 3.0 som components are missing Exactly. Unfortunately, those components are indispensable to us. We use them literally every day. RT ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component and Web Service.

2007-06-02 Thread Austin Kottke
You know what's funny about the web service component missing from flash cs3? It's actually in the help documentation as part of flash 9 CS 3: Web services Adobe® Flash® CS3 Professional includes the WebServiceConnector component that lets you connect to remote web services, send

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component andWeb Service.

2007-06-02 Thread Muzak
- Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component andWeb Service. You know what's funny about the web service component missing

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Kalani Bright
Thats funny. Adobe has put the axe to the tree component and many other components requiring you to use Flex if you want to use them. Adobe's reign of terror and the rise of the Anti-Flash...Flex. First they came for the Accordion and I did not speak out because I did not use the Accordion. Then

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Muzak
That's not the only things *missing*.. No Flash Remoting No Webservices - Original Message - From: Kalani Bright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Austin Kottke
I think it's kind of odd actually. Remove functionality in the newest version... I know they have to convert all the components to as3 - seems kind of odd though. The web service removal is a major problem though as this is kind of a basic. ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Steven Sacks
- From: Kalani Bright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Thats funny. Adobe has put the axe to the tree component and many other components requiring you to use

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Muzak
Message - From: Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. Flash Remoting has always been a separate download, but I would think that they would have shipped

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread iiley
Adobe has put the axe to the tree component and many other components requiring you to use Flex if you want to use them. Hmm, maybe third-party component set is a good choice too, like AsWinghttp://www.aswing.org, it has Tree, Accordion, Menu MenuBar ... :) -- iiley AsWing

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Muzak
And I'll bet that not even half this list knows how to get them to work (no offense anyone). regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: iiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread iiley
that not even half this list knows how to get them to work (no offense anyone). regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: iiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-01 Thread Muzak
now, so I'll leave it at that.. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: iiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component. I agree with you Muzak, i guess so too