Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-23 Thread Johannes Nel
a well written post. Fowlers sync concerns are not especially relevant in flex with the data binding mechanisms we have at our disposal. from where I am standing the supervisor controller and a presentation model seems a decent approach. My reasoning behind this is that views render aspects or tran

RE: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-18 Thread Errol Thompson
> You mentioned Supervising Controller by Martin Fowler; > did you know he has another variant of that same idea > called Presentation Model? http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/PresentationModel.html Fowler describes four different patterns which he regards as different ways of implementing the MVC o

Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-17 Thread Jules Suggate
Hey, a fellow Kiwi? Cool :) I am based out of Christchurch... Having used Cairngorm plenty in the past, I always found it pretty excellent, just a little out of date these days perhaps -- your changes sound (IMHO) sane and reasonable, as does your decision to go with Cairngorm if you are integrati

RE: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-17 Thread Errol Thompson
Thanks for the helpful comments and suggestions. Here is what I have already looked at. We looked at PureMVC for the project that I am on but stayed with Cairngorm because of the applications already written in Cairngorm that are also part of the project. However, we have written a version of noti

RE: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-16 Thread Gregor Kiddie
ate Sent: 16 December 2008 08:24 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex Having good results with FlexUnit here, using Parsley IoC instead of Cairngorm or what-have-you because of the advantages to mocking/testing with IoC/Dependency Injection (w

Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-16 Thread Jules Suggate
Oh sorry, to answer the original question, why should TDD in Flex be impossible? There were some challenges in the past with getting Continuous Integration happening (harvesting and reporting on test results was the stumbling block) but that's long since solved... and anyway, is not a precursor for

Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-16 Thread Jules Suggate
Having good results with FlexUnit here, using Parsley IoC instead of Cairngorm or what-have-you because of the advantages to mocking/testing with IoC/Dependency Injection (when will the community settle on a name for that pattern so I can stop using both! :) We have a structure like: /trunk/commo

RE: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-16 Thread Gregor Kiddie
08 00:49 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex Hi Gregor, I've recently started to implement FlexUnit myself (not tweaked yet, but it will be) - I'd like to hear about your experiences with FlexCover when you've played with it a bit

Re: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-15 Thread Josh McDonald
[mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Errol Thompson > *Sent:* 15 December 2008 16:49 > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex > > > > I am fairly new to Flex but have a reasonable amount of experience with > test

RE: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-15 Thread Gregor Kiddie
ailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Errol Thompson Sent: 15 December 2008 16:49 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex I am fairly new to Flex but have a reasonable amount of experience with test-driven development in Java and .NET. I h

[flexcoders] Test-driven development in Flex

2008-12-15 Thread Errol Thompson
I am fairly new to Flex but have a reasonable amount of experience with test-driven development in Java and .NET. I have been told that test-driving Flex development is not possible. I am not convinced as I have been told similar things on other projects in the past and then proven that they are