[flexcoders] Tab navigator questions
Hello, few questions regarding a TabNavigator: - I'd like to left-align tab label inside of fixed-width tabs, how can I do this ? - I'd like to manage the placement of the icons I can display in tabs, like right aligning that icon when the label itself is left-aligned - Also, how can I change the icon associated with a given tab and have that tab's icon refresh (ie. changed visually ) ? Thanks, r0main Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] DataGrid getColumnName problem
Hi Flexcoders, I have a DataGrid that uses the same data in 2 columns but each with a different labelFunction to display the data in different ways. the data is called 'depart' in the dataProvider and so to get this data I have to the same name to the 2columns in the DataGrid that display the data differently. When I use dg.getColumnName('depart') I always get the first of the 2 columns. I know I can use dg.getColumnAt( colIndex ) butin the future Iwould prefer to use the column name. I have seen an extended DataGid that allows the dragging and re-ordering of columns so the ColumnIndex will not be possible. Can I use id somehow? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Mango Solutions Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Value Object Help
Hi, I need a little help: I have a remoteobject which returns an array of Value Objects. The value object contains two ints (numbers) and a string. I want to display this on a datagrid. How do I convert this array into something that I can use? I have created an actionscript class (testVO.as) which mirrors the java Class testVO so I think I'm going in the right direction, now all I need to do is iterate through the array (remoteObject.result, which is where I am stuck (my actionscript is obviously a bit rusty). Cheers Java: public class TestVO { public String name; public int total; public int today; public void setName(String name){ this.name = name; } public void setToday(int today){ this.today = today; } public void setTotal(int total){ this.total = total; } public String getName(){ return this.name; } public float getTotal(){ return this.total; } public float getToday(){ return this.today; } } ActionScript: public class TestVO { var name:String; var total:Number; var today:Number; public void setName(name:String){ this.name = name; } public void setToday(today:Number){ this.today = today; } public void setTotal(total:Number){ this.total = total; } public String getName(){ return this.name; } public float getTotal(){ return this.total; } public float getToday(){ return this.today; } } Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] mailform
hi there, does anybody know how to create a mail-form in flex thx Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Lucian, "4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support." It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus Sedans...lol! "Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. " It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, ValyLucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flexapplication or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get bigor industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply tothe small and medium business and be good for those proof of conceptprojects. Lucian -Original Message-From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?Regards,Sjors PalsMichel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.Yahoo! Groups Links Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Digest Number 679
Subject: Re: Flex 1.5 price Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( I certainly recognize that Flex is mainly targetted at the enterprise. However, Flex-style UI creation would have the potential for a much larger following if a reasonably priced option was available for one-off type work by independant developers or small businesses. There's a huge gap between a NCL and someone that has a 4-way server! Think of the same needs being met by someone buying the Standard cversion of CF, not everyone needs the feature set of Enterprise. I'd still like to see a *standalone compiler version* as opposed to the server version. Call it Flex-lite if you will, and price it competitively with other standalone compiler technologies. Adam Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash
Not sure why your change event isn't getting fired; try doing 2 things: - in Flash, when you associate the ActionScript class to a movie clip, put a copy of the UIComponent on frame 2 with a stop(); action on frame 1 to prevent it from ever getting to frame 2. - change your code from: dispatchEvent({type: change}); to: dispatchEvent({type: change, target: this}); - Original Message - From: Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash Let me put my question in a different way. The code that I posted in earlier mail doesnt fire the change event On the change event of the component in the flash app nothing happens. I am able to capture the value on the click of a button but I want to capture that value on the click of the component. Any idea ?? Regards, Ketan Bengali. Scott Barnes wrote: I can't see anything below that will prevent you from using it inside FLASH IDE. You can do one of two things. 1) You can copy your assets/code into FLASH IDE, and make a component that way by cutting and pasting + importing assets. That based on what i've seen below would work out ok as the mx.framework is very similiar in its design with FLASH IDE... i'd only flag things if you used flex specific components like Panel etc... 2) Take your FLEX MXML and using the compc compile it to a SWC file, then copy it to your Flash IDE Program Files - again since your using the basics of the framework you should be right. I think when you use your component, FLASH IDE will tell its compiler to load the FLASH MX 2004 framewor as opposed to the FLEX version (thats if you have FlexForFlash installed inside your ide...if you haven't then ignore the above and just compile your mxml to a swc and use it like that) Under the Flash Docs, do a serach for Creating SWC files it will give you a step by step how to. Other than that, I'm not sure what else is doable. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:13:26 +0530, Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heres the code i have in my as file: import mx.controls.* import mx.core.UIObject import mx.events.EventDispatcher [Event(change)] [Event(click)] class CineRating extends mx.core.UIObject { static var symbolName:String = CineRating; static var symbolOwner:Object = CineRating; var className:String = CineRating; private var _rating:Number; private var starsCount:Number = 5; var movieRS:MovieClip; var _starNumber:Number; function CineRating() {} function init() { super.init(); movieRS._visible = true; } public function set rating(nRating:Number):Void { if(nRating%2 != 0 || nRating%2 != 1) { if(nRating - Math.floor(nRating) 0 nRating - Math.floor(nRating) 0.5) { nRating = Math.floor(nRating) } else { nRating = Math.ceil(nRating); } } this._rating = nRating; invalidate(); //draw(); dispatchEvent({type: change}); } public function draw() { if(!_parent[star+(starsCount-1)]) { for(var i:Number = 0; i starsCount;i++) { this.movieRS.duplicateMovieClip(star+i, i+1); this[star+i]._x = i * this[star+i]._width/0.95; this[star+i].starNumber = i; if(i _rating) { this[star+i].gotoAndStop(select); } else { this[star+i].gotoAndStop(default); } /*RollOver Event Declaration*/ this[star+i].onRollOver = function() { //mx.controls.Alert.show(Inside RollOver) var tname:Number; tname = this._name.charAt(this._name.length - 1); //mx.controls.Alert.show(); if(tname = (_parent._rating - 1)) return; if(tname _parent._rating - 1) { for(var k:Number = _parent._rating; k = tname; k++) { var myStar = eval(_parent + . + star + k); myStar.gotoAndStop(hover); } } } /*RollOut Event Declaration*/ this[star+i].onRollOut = function() { var tname:Number; tname = Number(this._name.charAt(this._name.length - 1)); if(tname = (_parent._rating - 1)) { return; } for(var j:Number = _parent._rating; j _parent.starsCount; j++) { var myStar = eval(_parent + . + star + j); myStar.gotoAndStop(default); } } /*Press Event Declaration*/
RE: [flexcoders] Value Object Help
Hi, No need to do anything special, just do: myDataGrid.dataProvider = remoteObject.result; Then the data grid should be declared as follows: mx:DataGrid id="myDataGrid" mx:columns mx:Array mx:DataGridColumn columnName="name" headerText="Name" / mx:DataGridColumn columnName="total" headerText="Total" / mx:DataGridColumn columnName="today" headerText="Today" / /mx:Array /mx:columns /mx:DataGrid No need to iterate. Jimmy Gianninas Software Developer - Optimal Payments Inc. From: digital_eyezed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:19 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Value Object Help Hi,I need a little help:I have a remoteobject which returns an array of Value Objects. The value object contains two ints (numbers) and a string. I want to display this on a datagrid. How do I convert this array into something that I can use?I have created an actionscript class (testVO.as) which mirrors the java Class testVO so I think I'm going in the right direction, now all I need to do is iterate through the array (remoteObject.result, which is where I am stuck (my actionscript is obviously a bit rusty).CheersJava:public class TestVO { public String name; public int total; public int today; public void setName(String name){ this.name = name; } public void setToday(int today){ this.today = today; } public void setTotal(int total){ this.total = total; } public String getName(){ return this.name; } public float getTotal(){ return this.total; } public float getToday(){ return this.today; }}ActionScript:public class TestVO { var name:String; var total:Number; var today:Number; public void setName(name:String){ this.name = name; } public void setToday(today:Number){ this.today = today; } public void setTotal(total:Number){ this.total = total; } public String getName(){ return this.name; } public float getTotal(){ return this.total; } public float getToday(){ return this.today; }} AVIS IMPORTANTWARNING Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale
Well, we have just committed to Flex and fortunately beat the price rise - paperwork justcompleted with Macromedia UK. First, a big thank you to this list. Whoever started the price increase rumour did us a favour. We have been prototyping and playing with Flex for a couple of months now and have liked what see - both in terms of the 'Richness' Flex can bring to the user experience AND the 'Rapid' way we canCODE that experience. Of course, we have always known Flex to be (for us) an expensive option but, basing our budgeting on the old $12,000 price, we felt that we could justify the cost even though we were 'at our limit'. Our financial year ends on April 30, and we were planning to buyat the end ofApril and use up our budget - thank goodness we didn't wait and were able to secure the old pricing. I say thank goodness because, to be quite honest, we wouldNOT have purchased at the new prices and we would have been cursing for weeks because of 2 months wasted development effort. I can understand why others are 'angry' at the price increase, especially the smaller organisations/developers like us. Flex might be an enterprise class product but I would suggest you don't have to bea 'deep pocketed' enterprise to make good use of it. When we spoke to Macromedia UK we were told that the old (12,000) pricing was 'early adopter' pricing and they confirmed the price increase as Lucian has done. I have to say, that if you are discounting a product for early adopters, it is normal to say so upfront, indeed it is usually done to encourage adoption in an open way. I can't remember Macromedia saying the 12,000 price was discounted for early adopters (but I might of missed it), so the increase in price now seems an unusual marketing tactic. I hope Flex goes from strength to strength regardless of price, and sincerely hope Macromedia haven't killed it via seemingly odd pricing decisions. Anyway, as I said, we have now committed and we look forward to many years of happy Flex development. Regards Ian PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale
I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment: we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time? According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right? Thanks, Dirk. PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Reloading of Flex WAR
Answering my own question from a while back in case it helps anyone else... (Note: this on version 5.5.7 of tomcat, which I know is officially unsupported) Tomcat 5.x has a setting for anitJARLocking and antiResourceLocking attributes on the Context element in the conf/context.xml. Setting those to true made it possible for us to reload our web-apps. -ashley Ashley Streb wrote: Howdy, I am unable to undeploy a running Flex web-app from Tomcat. When I undeploy it (using the tomcat ant tasks), tomcat leaves behind the following directory structure: WEB-INF/flex/jars/ flex.jar xercesImpl.jar So, instead of just re-waring my files and deploying, I need to stop tomcat, start tomcat and then attempt a redeploy. Has anyone else run into this problem? Any ideas? Thanks! -ashley *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1293sr1ta/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1109960334/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto I bet it is not as widespread as its made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus Sedans...lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Seems to me like you misunderstand the principles of supply and demand. One doesnt usually raise the price on a product that isnt selling. Quite the opposite according to most economic principles... At 10:04 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto I bet it is not as widespread as its made out to be. -- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www./http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www./http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=31637/*http:/smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/Try our new resources site! Yahoo! Groups
[flexcoders] Key class Help
Hi list, I need some help/explanation about Key class. Based on the examples mentioned in the live docs as well as in Action Script Language Reference I created the following mxml files. I want to use the Key class to allow the user use key board to access UI Objects, but no success. Any help appreciated. Keyboard_2.mxml Keyboard_0.mxml Keyboard_1.mxml Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Keyboard_2.mxml Description: Binary data Keyboard_0.mxml Description: Binary data Keyboard_1.mxml Description: Binary data
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I don't see the point of this licensing change. With the old licensing: Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000, Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for more than ~$29 000. Everybody were happy. With the new licensing: Business case A- not anymore...??? Business case B- not anymore...??? Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing) This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it answers less business cases. The contrary would have been a much clever move: Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a real starter kit...). I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many opportunities). Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price. Strange... I don't understand... Ben -Message d'origine- De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 -- -- *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Erm, not really - it seems to be a Catch-22 system doesn't it.. Put the price up so lower sales gives still give you expected revenue... or lower the price so larger sales can give you expected revenue. Flex is goodno messing but it is pretty obvious that the demand is high for it but the cost is seriously hampering the sales... -Original Message- From: jeff tapper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 16:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Seems to me like you misunderstand the principles of supply and demand. One doesnt usually raise the price on a product that isnt selling. Quite the opposite according to most economic principles... At 10:04 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. -- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D= grhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D= gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://ww w./http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fle xcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D= grhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D= gr oups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://ww w./http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale
Dirk, When I talked to my account manager the other day - he told me that the price you pay is the basis for future maintenance agreements. I would still check with yours. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: Dirk Eismann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:59 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment: we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time? According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right? Thanks, Dirk. PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Filtering Results from a DataProvider
I wrote a custom data provider that will filter results from a wrapped DataProvider. The idea was that you could plug in different filters; filter on partially typed words, location etc. This custom data provider (FilterDataProvider) extends the mx.control.listclasses.DataProvider class. I'm running into two problems and the solutions to those problems allude me. The first is that my DataGrid is not receiving modelChanged events that my FilterDataProvider fires. The second is that my DataGrid is not setting the selectedItem property when I click on a row. It also does not highlight the row that I clicked. Here is the code from my FilterDataProvider (I've removed some of the extraneous function calls for brevity/readability). The important thing to note is that the FilterDataProvider receives events from its configured filters indicating that something about them has changed and they need to refilter the data. These events are received by the filterDataProvider, which in turn fires off a modelChanged event. I've confirmed that the FilterDataProvider is indeed receiving events from its configured filters (alerting out messages), and I've also confirmed that the DataGrid that this filterDataProvider is configured on never receives the modelChanged event. (I extended the DataGrid class and overrode the modelChanged method, alerted out a message before calling super.modelChanged) Any help is appreciated. Thanks! class FilterDataProvider extends DataProvider { public var source : DataProvider; public var filters : Array; public function get length():Number { var sourceLength:Number = mSource.length; var filteredLength : Number = 0; for (var i:Number = 0; i sourceLength; i++) { var item = mSource.getItemAt(i); if (accept(item)) { filteredLength++; } } return filteredLength; } public function getItemAt(pIndex:Number) { var sourceLength:Number = mSource.length; for (var i:Number = pIndex + mOffset; i sourceLength; i++) { var item = mSource.getItemAt(i); if (accept(item)) { return item; } } return null; } private function accept(pItem) : Boolean { var filterLength:Number = mFilters.length; for (var i:Number = 0; i filterLength; i++) { var filter:Filter = mFilters[i]; if (!filter.accept(pItem)) { return false; } } return true; } public function processFilterChangedEvent(pEvent:Object) { var eventObject : Object; eventObject.type = modelChanged; eventObject.eventName = updateAll; dispatchEvent(eventObject); } } mxml registration... components:FilterDataProvider source={remoteObject.result} id=filterProvider/ components:FancyDataGrid id=videoGrid width=100% height=100% dataProvider=filterProvider -ashley Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto I bet it is not as widespread as its made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, "4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support." It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus Sedans...lol! "Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. " It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, ValyLucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flexapplication or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get bigor industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply tothe small and medium business and be good for those proof of conceptprojects. Lucian -Original Message-From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?Regards,Sjors PalsMichel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.Yahoo! Groups Links Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale
Dirk, that is what I was told (in writing) - maintenance at 20% of the price you pay (per year). In fact we bought an additional year's maintenance with our order (the first year was included). Hope this helps. Regards Ian - Ian Welsh. Business Manager. Harlaxton College. Harlaxton, Grantham, Lincs, NG32 1AG. United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1476-403000 Fax: +44 (0) 1476-403030 Web: http://www.ueharlax.ac.uk Harlaxton College - Learning: All Together -Original Message- From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 16:00 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment: we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time? According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right? Thanks, Dirk. PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years. Yahoo! Groups Links This E-mail scanned for viruses by Harlaxton College This E-mail scanned for viruses by Harlaxton College Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Fw: .NET to Flash: good or bad for Flex
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:31:16 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: .NET to Flash: good or bad for Flex From: Jackson, Dennis (PPC) Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:23 AM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: .NET to Flash: good or bad for Flex http://news.zdnet.com/Software+turns+.Net+to+Flash/2100-3513_22-5647420.html?part=rsstag=feedsubj=zdnn I saw this, I cant decide if This is good because it makes flash the default player for just about everything that is currently on the market. Or if This is bad because it seems to be another thing that does the same thing but is cheaper and has more developers that know how to program in it Sent via BlackBerry - a service from ATT Wireless. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ image001.gif
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Benoit Hediard wrote: I don't see the point of this licensing change. I do. The only reasonable explaination is that Flex is selling as fast as lightning! Hire a team of M$ WebProgrammers for a few months and look at the BILLS... You will run to MM and buy Flex! MJ With the old licensing: Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000, Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for more than ~$29 000. Everybody were happy. With the new licensing: Business case A- not anymore...??? Business case B- not anymore...??? Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing) This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it answers less business cases. The contrary would have been a much clever move: Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a real starter kit...). I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many opportunities). Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price. Strange... I don't understand... Ben -Message d'origine- De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 -- -- *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129qurger/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112368894/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My guess is that you will be back. Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing their best to output as a swf. MM is doing something right - they hold all the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the web. My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote their company's future to flash). I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex world to see what they missed. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Well i think that when MM keeps their technology for their selves that the chance is big that someone takes legal action. And there is an other danger, if MM keeps the Cards for their selves the chance is big, someone else says: lets make our own cards and spread them for free. Jeff Steiner wrote: My guess is that you will be back. Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing their best to output as a swf. MM is doing something right - they hold all the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the web. My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote their company's future to flash). I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex world to see what they missed. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this
[flexcoders] charts / stacked view
hi there, when i try to view a column chart in stacked view with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display them - there's always a gap to 100% bug or feature? thx, chris we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the way up to the top of the chart? Are any of the values negative? Thanks. Ely. -Original Message- From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view Importance: High hi there, when i try to view a column chart in stacked view with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display them - there's always a gap to 100% bug or feature? thx, chris we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an application needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can understand. -d Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
noep, all are positive... 0.60 75.20 10.11 and so on the first value will not be displayed... At 18:57 31.03.2005, you wrote: Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the way up to the top of the chart? Are any of the values negative? Thanks. Ely. -Original Message- From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view Importance: High hi there, when i try to view a column chart in stacked view with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display them - there's always a gap to 100% bug or feature? thx, chris we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
Hmmmyeah, sounds like a bug :( If the problem is really related to the first value being less than 1, you could try Multiplying all your values by 10. Since the vertical axis goes from 0-100%, it should have no effect on the labels. It _would_ have an effect on the datatips, but you could write a custom datatip function to get around that. Ely. -Original Message- From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:00 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view Importance: High noep, all are positive... 0.60 75.20 10.11 and so on the first value will not be displayed... At 18:57 31.03.2005, you wrote: Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the way up to the top of the chart? Are any of the values negative? Thanks. Ely. -Original Message- From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view Importance: High hi there, when i try to view a column chart in stacked view with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display them - there's always a gap to 100% bug or feature? thx, chris we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links we make IT hauser+larch gmbH josef abentung weg 48 a-6091 goetzens phone +43 / 5234 / 336 84 fax +43 / 5234 / 336 85 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an application needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can understand. -d Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml mx:method name=getSchedules result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ScheduleProcessor.as Description: Binary data
[flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels
Hello Everyone, We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of Panels, to no avail. I have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I am not sure that I am doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included stylesheet, and in that class i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does effect it in some way because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded. I have tried various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real effect. Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas? Thanks! -Brett Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
Title: Message The way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error. One approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. For example (in code babble). MyMainView.mxml mx:script public activeChild : MovieClip = null; function parentHandleMethod(evt) { // store current child view to local var activeChild = evt.target' // do server call } /ms:script mx:repeater me:mychildView /mx:repeater ... MyChildView.mxml mx:Metadata [Event("onCustomEvent1")] [Event("onCustomEvent2")] /mx:Metadata mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', otherAttributes=''})" In this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself (communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the target in which the event was dispatch from. This is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more correct then this approach. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Anyone? Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Hi all, I am using the Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels
Brett, This seams to work for me. Can you try and let me know if it works for you? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; !-- To use stylesheet: -- mx:Style source=myStyleSheet.css/ mx:Panel styleName=myclass title=Panel header width=300 height=300/mx:Panel /mx:Application myStyleSheet.css: .myclass { headerColors:#FF,#FF ; textAlign:center} -lin -Original Message- From: Brett Hitzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:36 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels Hello Everyone, We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of Panels, to no avail. I have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I am not sure that I am doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included stylesheet, and in that class i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does effect it in some way because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded. I have tried various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real effect. Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas? Thanks! -Brett Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
Hi Hari, I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before setting fnameArray array... See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. function setValues() { -- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); --- total = scheduleList_do.length; schedule = scheduleList_do[index]; reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid; schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid; status.text = schedule.schedule_status; analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id; reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id; receivedon.text = schedule.received_date; schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name; continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name; attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name; fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text; fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text; fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text; Alert.show(schedulefname.text+ +continuationfname.text+ +attachmentfname.text,file names); receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); } -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml mx:method name=getSchedules result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. I'm on the Flex team, not the Flash team, but I think all the Flash ActionScript APIs are documented. In addition to Macromedia documentation, aren't there plenty of Flash books, ActionScript dictionaries, etc.? For example, ActionScript, The Definitive Guide by Colin Moock seems comprehensive. If there are missing Player APIs in that book, I think they're an oversight, not an intentional secret. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:26 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My guess is that you will be back. Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing their best to output as a swf. MM is doing something right - they hold all the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the web. My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote their company's future to flash). I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex world to see what they missed. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. Regards, Valy Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept projects. Lucian -Original Message- From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on
RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
Thanks for the response I did try with statement receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi Hari, I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before setting fnameArray array... See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. function setValues() { -- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); --- total = scheduleList_do.length; schedule = scheduleList_do[index]; reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid; schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid; status.text = schedule.schedule_status; analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id; reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id; receivedon.text = schedule.received_date; schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name; continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name; attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name; fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text; fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text; fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text; Alert.show(schedulefname.text+ +continuationfname.text+ +attachmentfname.text,file names); receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); } -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml mx:method name=getSchedules result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] output String from WebService
Using resultFormat=xml, you do not need to use createXML, the result is already an XML document. You can use trace(result.toString()) to see the xmp string. Tracy -Original Message- From: Steiner, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:07 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] output String from WebService Yes. I trigger the web service and I put the result like this: mx:operation name=AddUser resultFormat=xml result=postResult(event) In this function is where I have been trying everything. function postResult(event) { xmlResult = mx.utils.XMLUtil.createXML(event.result); resultText.text = mx.utils.ArrayUtil.toArray(registration.addUser.result); } I know that I am just overlooking something - just can't figure it out. -Original Message- From: jeff tapper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:24 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] output String from WebService silly questions, but did you trigger the web service? At 03:08 PM 3/30/2005, you wrote: I am seeing an issue that I know has a simple answer - I just keep getting undefined as a result. I have a WebService call to a CFC that returns a String. Simple so far? My result is undefined no matter what I try, when I output it. Any ideas? Jeff cffunction name=AddUser access=remote returnType=string output=false cfset this.success = 'You account has been successfully created. You may now Login.' cfreturn this.success / /cffunction mx:WebService id=registration wsdl=authenticationModule2.cfc?WSDL showBusyCursor=true mx:operation name=AddUser / /mx:WebService Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fgu1uc/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176 /D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112299714/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*h ttp://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 click here -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/http://groups.yahoo.com/grou p/flexcoders/ * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]fle [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I'm confused. Are you saying I'm a Bad Guy? All I did was point out that I think everything you need to program the Flash Player from either a Flex app or a Laszlo app is documented. This might make my manager mad, but I don't understand why it would make you mad. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Anthony Merryfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:35 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Here come the Black Helicopters. :) -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 19:31 To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. I'm on the Flex team, not the Flash team, but I think all the Flash ActionScript APIs are documented. In addition to Macromedia documentation, aren't there plenty of Flash books, ActionScript dictionaries, etc.? For example, ActionScript, The Definitive Guide by Colin Moock seems comprehensive. If there are missing Player APIs in that book, I think they're an oversight, not an intentional secret. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:26 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My guess is that you will be back. Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing their best to output as a swf. MM is doing something right - they hold all the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the web. My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote their company's future to flash). I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex world to see what they missed. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users...
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
To Matthew below, certainly this is not a joke. But where you have been working on something great, lets talk. I'll contact you off line. On Laszlo, I am not going to start a whole Flex vs Laszlo discussion here, but suffice it to say that there are a lot of benefits for Flash Player 7 *if* you take advantage of them. Simply compiling a Flash Player 5 application for Flash Player 7 won't help a lot. There are values in accessibility, remote object binary protocols, performance optimizations, and dozens more, that all require lots of changes to leverage the new capabilities in Flash Player 7. We have most certainly done those all and many more in Flex 1.5. Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. You may have seen that in December, we had over 200 customers. As a public company in the US, we are not allowed to give you specific updates, but suffice it to say that we are very excited about the success we are seeing and that has just encouraged us to adjust pricing and commitment in line with that success. Lucian -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetra tion.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an application needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you
[flexcoders] Re: Centering Titles in Panels
Worked perfectly! Thanks! -Brett --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Lin Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett, This seams to work for me. Can you try and let me know if it works for you? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; !-- To use stylesheet: -- mx:Style source=myStyleSheet.css/ mx:Panel styleName=myclass title=Panel header width=300 height=300/mx:Panel /mx:Application myStyleSheet.css: .myclass { headerColors:#FF,#FF ; textAlign:center} -lin -Original Message- From: Brett Hitzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:36 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels Hello Everyone, We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of Panels, to no avail. I have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I am not sure that I am doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included stylesheet, and in that class i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does effect it in some way because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded. I have tried various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real effect. Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas? Thanks! -Brett Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup)
I am writing a Flex proof of concept app that accesses existing Java programs on the back end. When we did our Flash app, the developers wrote the flash code on their local machines and when testing made their calls to the remote java server without deploying any flash code. I am having trouble getting this scenario setup with Flex. Does anyone know how to set this up so that it is possible (mxml files on local pc, remainder of Flex on remote Java Server)? Thanks, Libby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects
Mike, Add listener.onEffectEnd(this); to the end of your playEffect function. This will tell the Sequence effect that the effect is finished playing. The Sequence effect sets itself as the listener of each of its child effects. Jason -Original Message- From: Mike Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects Hi Folks, Does anyone know why the following custom effect class which I am trying to use to call various functions in an effect sequence would cause the sequence to halt after running the called function. Thanks Mike. import mx.effects.Effect; class com.webqem.flex.effects.CallFunctionEffect extends Effect { private var obj:Object; private var func:String; private var args:Array; function CallFunctionEffect(obj:Object, func:String) { this.obj = obj; this.func = func; arguments.shift(); arguments.shift(); this.args = arguments; } public function playEffect():Void { if (obj != null func != null) { obj[func].apply(obj, args); } } public function getAffectedProperties():Array { return new Array(); } } Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup)
This is possible and mirrors one of the environments I had to use in the past. In the mx:RemoteObject tag there is an attribute called 'endpoint' where you can point your mxml remote object calls to. Find the server name where flex is running and do 'servername:port\amfgateway' for java or the servlet mapping to flash remoting. If you are going to use the Flex server to call you java classes make sure the classes are available to the Flex server and that you have the whitelist configured correctly. -Original Message- From: Libby Chantel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup) I am writing a Flex proof of concept app that accesses existing Java programs on the back end. When we did our Flash app, the developers wrote the flash code on their local machines and when testing made their calls to the remote java server without deploying any flash code. I am having trouble getting this scenario setup with Flex. Does anyone know how to set this up so that it is possible (mxml files on local pc, remainder of Flex on remote Java Server)? Thanks, Libby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
So your problem fixed or you still having it? -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Thanks for the response I did try with statement receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi Hari, I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before setting fnameArray array... See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. function setValues() { -- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); --- total = scheduleList_do.length; schedule = scheduleList_do[index]; reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid; schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid; status.text = schedule.schedule_status; analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id; reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id; receivedon.text = schedule.received_date; schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name; continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name; attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name; fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text; fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text; fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text; Alert.show(schedulefname.text+ +continuationfname.text+ +attachmentfname.text,file names); receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); } -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml mx:method name=getSchedules result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
Still have it. I tried diff ways but no success. I forgot to comment this one. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:35 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? So your problem fixed or you still having it? -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Thanks for the response I did try with statement receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi Hari, I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before setting fnameArray array... See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. function setValues() { -- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); --- total = scheduleList_do.length; schedule = scheduleList_do[index]; reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid; schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid; status.text = schedule.schedule_status; analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id; reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id; receivedon.text = schedule.received_date; schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name; continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name; attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name; fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text; fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text; fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text; Alert.show(schedulefname.text+ +continuationfname.text+ +attachmentfname.text,file names); receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); } -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml mx:method name=getSchedules result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method Thanks! Hari Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
damn. either this is too good for an april fools joke, or as russel peters said, somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad :) pushkar -- www.pushkar.net My World, Your View! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
As I already said this is no joke to me or my department. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:43:38 -0500, Pushkar Phatak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn. either this is too good for an april fools joke, or as russel peters said, somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad :) pushkar -- www.pushkar.net My World, Your View! Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex). I am trying to remember the first price I payed for Codl Fusion Proffesisonal Server.. $199 or $349 I guess I could look it up online at archive.org, but my point is, there is nothing you can buy at that price now. and you can see the decline in monster postings, and books on the topic that have matched the incline in price. I told people that the price increase was what our sales rep was telling us. we got our order in under the wire. Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building a 6 month training process into the hire. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Matthew below, certainly this is not a joke. But where you have been working on something great, lets talk. I'll contact you off line. On Laszlo, I am not going to start a whole Flex vs Laszlo discussion here, but suffice it to say that there are a lot of benefits for Flash Player 7 *if* you take advantage of them. Simply compiling a Flash Player 5 application for Flash Player 7 won't help a lot. There are values in accessibility, remote object binary protocols, performance optimizations, and dozens more, that all require lots of changes to leverage the new capabilities in Flash Player 7. We have most certainly done those all and many more in Flex 1.5. Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. You may have seen that in December, we had over 200 customers. As a public company in the US, we are not allowed to give you specific updates, but suffice it to say that we are very excited about the success we are seeing and that has just encouraged us to adjust pricing and commitment in line with that success. Lucian -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_ penetra tion.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message-From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 priceWhat about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, thenthis is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and neverlook back. We will have wasted months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a verysmall shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all anymore.-- MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no "older is slower" arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in _javascript_. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new "player" and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an "application" needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can understand. -d Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go
[flexcoders] Databinding to webservice strangeness...
I dont see where one of our developers posted this, but we have an extra bizzare error we are encountering when we databind text boxes to webservice arguments that call a remote CFC method. since only 25% of you according to the poll use CF for the data layer, the background that is helpful is that the CFC web services require all parameteres to be passed or you get an error. these are the use cases we tested and the results. you leave the parameter blank ie wsargument/wsargument.. Flex submits a soap call with the field. you bind the parameter to a textbox wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and DONT enter anything... flex omits the field and the call fails with a required argument not passed. you bind the parameter to a textbox wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and enter anything... Flex submits a soap call with the field. you bind the parameter to a textbox wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and enter anything, then delete what you typed... Flex submits a soap call with the field. then it gets wierder... to get around the undefined, not submitting issue we tried to do a conditional assignment.. ie.. wsargument{textbox.text == undefined ? `': textbox.text} /wsargument now when we leave the box alone and submit, the value is undefined and the argument is set to '', which does not get sent in the SOAP call. however.. wsargument{textbox.text == undefined ? `ANYTHING': textbox.text} /wsargument do the same thing, leave the box untouched and submit, NOW the field IS DEFINED, and the value is set to it presumably an empty string and not a null. and the SOAP call now includes the field in the arugments list. EXTRA WEIRD.. Does this sound like a bug to everyone else too? Also Kudos to Rick Law and Jason Doyle for working all of this out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] PrintJob()
I am trying to print an mlmx file at the same level as the one calling the printjob. Here is my code: public function testPrintJob():Void { var printJob:PrintJob = new PrintJob(); var help:Help = new Help(); mx.core.Application.alert(testProperty : + help.testProperty); printJob.start(); printJob.addPage(0); printJob.addPage(help); printJob.send(); delete printJob; } Help.mxml is the object being created in the 2nd lineof the method and it is being created correctly as I can read the properties of the file through an alert on the next line, bit I am only getting the 1st page which is using 0 as the object path (_root). I have tried using help with and without the quotes and can never get it added as a page. Anyone have any ideas ? Rich Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think thats pretty consistent with other software industry norms. Ill make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in _javascript_. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an application needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal
RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?
Hi Abdul, I am very sure that data is came back as an Array because I am able to set and see data on my screen and also I have showPrev() and showNext() method to navigate thru the array and I am seeing the data changing. Do you want me to send the mxml files? But only problem will be I am prototyping will work correctly if you have two monitors hooked up to you system. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:54 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Ok, Try to trace the value of total in setValues(..) function... Or try to find, event.result is an array or not, you can do it like this: mx:method name=getSchedules result=if(event.result instanceof Array) { alert(String(event.result.length)) } else { alert('event.result is not an Array')}; scheduleList_do=event.result; setValues() fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call Error') mx:arguments arg14/arg1 /mx:arguments /mx:method It should show you an alert showing either array's length or a message saying event.result is not an array... Let us know, what do you see? -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:09 AM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Still have it. I tried diff ways but no success. I forgot to comment this one. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:35 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? So your problem fixed or you still having it? -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Thanks for the response I did try with statement receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code. Thanks! Hari -Original Message- From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi Hari, I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before setting fnameArray array... See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. function setValues() { -- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); --- total = scheduleList_do.length; schedule = scheduleList_do[index]; reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid; schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid; status.text = schedule.schedule_status; analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id; reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id; receivedon.text = schedule.received_date; schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name; continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name; attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name; fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text; fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text; fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text; Alert.show(schedulefname.text+ +continuationfname.text+ +attachmentfname.text,file names); receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray); } -abdul -Original Message- From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ? Hi, I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence (synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the array to other browser window already opened. What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting, means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no successes. ScheduleProcessor.as Here
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
Title: Message Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what was the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so far. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. The way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error. One approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. For example (in code babble). MyMainView.mxml mx:script public activeChild : MovieClip = null; function parentHandleMethod(evt) { // store current child view to local var activeChild = evt.target' // do server call } /ms:script mx:repeater me:mychildView /mx:repeater ... MyChildView.mxml mx:Metadata [Event("onCustomEvent1")] [Event("onCustomEvent2")] /mx:Metadata mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', otherAttributes=''})" In this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself (communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the target in which the event was dispatch from. This is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more correct then this approach. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Anyone? Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Hi all, I am using the Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I am more than a little frustrated about this... why don't we discuss it right here publically? Why is there a pricing scheme that is private interview based? I just want to know: Is there a 1CPU price? If so, what is it? Is there a 2CPU price? If so, what is it? These are not difficult questions. If there are no purchasing options available that are smaller than this 'starter kit'. Please just say so. As I already said in my private email. I need to know the answer to these questions. I have a lot of damage control to attend to. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:16:43 -0800, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think that's pretty consistent with other software industry norms. I'll make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than the Dual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
In case you don't find your company listed on NYSE then forget about Flex :)) It's sad, but true... Flex was successfully adopted by big financial companies and MM feels that can push the price a little bit higher to increase their revenue... and unfortunately make it more prohibitive for small-medium shops. The weird thing is that we tend to overlook the serious problems/limitations this product has. I've seen dozens of issues peoples had with this product some of them really put me in perspective... Keep in mind that not all the apps are datagrids, flash animations, etc... and the lack of multilingual support, very limited charting engine, memory issues are only a few of the things that people should consider before buying this product or being so excited about it In fact is just a presentation layer that stays on top of your application... Flex is not a standalone product, we still need an application servers, database, etc.. and the cost adds up... I don't want this product for free but the way MM treated us disrespectfully makes me sick... Another drawback is the complexity that has been added to development cycle. All of the sudden, we are talking about controllers, views, commands, value objects, data type mapping... on the presentation side... It's a lot of redundancy and in my view that should make this product less desirable Yes, Flex is nice, nice features for flashy projects but is too early to say it's a reliable tool for production, because too few people really deployed or used the application in prod for a decent period of time... Have you ever find a log when the browser crashes? or when the loader is taking so long to render a page... It's premature to say that Flex will be a successand I really do want so... but in the same proportion those project might fail miserably regarding their stability MM products scalability it something I wouldn't rely too much In conclusion, I think this is a list for people who really have technical difficulties and need help and less for IT managers that would want to buy... In fact is MM business how they'll manage to sell Flex and convince IT architects that this is a valid option. I'm less concern about MM revenue numbers, just concern on the impact the prices might have on my clients. Regards, Michael PS: DO NOT intend to contact MM people off list for favors... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
Title: Message Well. My thought is 'Who would know what child needed the work done?' The view locator's need to have the view helper name be unique is so that it can locate the view. A command has to be 100% sure what view towork with to get the data to properly make the call out to the server. Therefore my thought is that the safer bet would be to have the command talk to the parent to either a) get the data or b) get the name of the child. Anyway, those are just my thoughts to why I would approach the situation the way I outlined. My judgment of clean has a lot to do with the ability to maintain the application and as much as possible keeping the interdepancy between my view files as possible. Loose coupling. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what was the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so far. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. The way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error. One approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. For example (in code babble). MyMainView.mxml mx:script public activeChild : MovieClip = null; function parentHandleMethod(evt) { // store current child view to local var activeChild = evt.target' // do server call } /ms:script mx:repeater me:mychildView /mx:repeater ... MyChildView.mxml mx:Metadata [Event("onCustomEvent1")] [Event("onCustomEvent2")] /mx:Metadata mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', otherAttributes=''})" In this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself (communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the target in which the event was dispatch from. This is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more correct then this approach. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Anyone? Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Hi all, I am using the Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
Title: Message That is 'keeping the interdepancy between my view files as few as possible'. -Original Message-From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:07 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Well. My thought is 'Who would know what child needed the work done?' The view locator's need to have the view helper name be unique is so that it can locate the view. A command has to be 100% sure what view towork with to get the data to properly make the call out to the server. Therefore my thought is that the safer bet would be to have the command talk to the parent to either a) get the data or b) get the name of the child. Anyway, those are just my thoughts to why I would approach the situation the way I outlined. My judgment of clean has a lot to do with the ability to maintain the application and as much as possible keeping the interdepancy between my view files as possible. Loose coupling. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what was the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so far. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. The way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error. One approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. For example (in code babble). MyMainView.mxml mx:script public activeChild : MovieClip = null; function parentHandleMethod(evt) { // store current child view to local var activeChild = evt.target' // do server call } /ms:script mx:repeater me:mychildView /mx:repeater ... MyChildView.mxml mx:Metadata [Event("onCustomEvent1")] [Event("onCustomEvent2")] /mx:Metadata mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', otherAttributes=''})" In this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself (communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the target in which the event was dispatch from. This is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more correct then this approach. Ben -Original Message-From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Anyone? Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question. Hi all, I am using the Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated. Omar Ramos Itacon Corporation Technology Manager Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Hi Lucian, I will need to speak to my clients ( I can't remember if they purchased the Flex License at v1 or v1.5 ). I'm sure that there is an amicable agreement that can be reached - price increases are an ongoing problem for everyone around the world but particularly for the small to medium whoever/whatever. Although larger companies must be careful to count the pennies (therefore looking after the pounds) they are in a much better position to find the cash to make larger purchases if it makes sense in the bigger picture. I imagine ( and I may be wrong ) that most of us are a little disturbed by not being able to see a price on a tag. Hardly anyone in the UK is used to haggling, and personally I'm not keen on squeezing as much out of someone as I can. I am not the one who authorises purchases, and I imagine that most of us here are in the same boat. It just feels very uncomfortable seeing a price tag for a small bag of sweets, a price tag for a large bag of sweets, but for medium and jumbo bags you have to haggle with the shop keeper. I'm not saying its wrong - I just think that lots of developers like me have a hard time having to go back to the people who make the purchasing decisions and trying to get them to pay an unknown but considerable amount of money for something that they are not sure that they want, and we are the ones that have to persuade them that they want it. For my part, I sold Flex based on the knowledge that my clients wanted to develop their webapps using the Flash Player. My experience of creating webapps in the Flash environment was most unpleasant(especially when having to work with designers that can't program and aren't at all tidy!) so I pushed the fact that the webapps would be developed much much faster using Flex thanwith Flash. Yes, there has been a bigger learning curve than I thought, but if I had tried to do this using Flash only - well I think that I would be in a hospital room with nice padded walls to dampen the sound of my screaming! I love Flex. And I'm gladsomeone else has bought it for me to work with. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 21:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think thats pretty consistent with other software industry norms. Ill make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message-From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, thenthis is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and neverlook back. We will have wasted months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a verysmall shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all anymore.-- MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash,
[flexcoders] Scrollbars in a VBox
With all these pricing things up in the air its hard to think about coding, but I do have a bit of a problem I'm trying to work out. I have a layout that has multiple nested VBox components with a repeater on the inside. For my application this repeater is going to be repeating a custom component based on a dataProvider. My problem is that Flex wants to put the scroll bars on the outer most VBox instead of the innermost one thats closest to the repeater. I have tried many variations of vScrollPolicy settings, but the problem seems to be somewhere else. Is there a way other than setting a specific size for the VBoxes that I can tell the inner most VBox to be the one that has a scroll bar? I have included some sample code to show my problem. In this example the scroll bars are actually going on the application control. This is a very simple example that is similar to the layout in my application and still shows the problem. I know I could use a List or a Datagrid with a custom renderer but both have behaviors I don't want. I was hoping to just be able to use a repeater and have scrollbars on the parent vbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, -- Matthew ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; mx:Script ![CDATA[ var list:Array = [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z ]; ]] /mx:Script mx:VBox id=outer width=100% height=100% backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5 borderColor=#FF mx:VBox id=middle width=100% height=100% backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5 borderColor=#FF !-- Scrollbars Need to be on this VBox \/ \/ \/ -- mx:VBox id=inner width=100% height=100% backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5 borderColor=#00FF00 mx:Repeater id=rpList dataProvider={list} mx:Label text={rpList.currentItem} / /mx:Repeater mx:Label text=Item Count: {list.length} / /mx:VBox /mx:VBox /mx:VBox /mx:Application Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
AW: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Why no open source Flex? I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components, creating Actionscript components It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex. In fact I think that a flex like system is just the next logical step for flash development. All this we need to get the enterprise developers on board is just shareholder talk. Flash developers have for a long time pushed the limits of flash and i`m sure that it`s possible to built something like flex as open source. You would say there is Laszlo but for me it`s not an alternative. I want something compatible to flex and that uses actionscript and that recognizes my components built in flash. So I want flex for free! Don`t get me wrong. I love Flex. It`s a great product but in my opinion there is enough space for an open source Project that fits for smaller (budget wise) projects. For my final thesis i`m working on such a project. I have successfully built a Linker/Loader System and an MXML parser. (I will post about the progression here www.richapps.de ) I think a real open source Flex alternative would be great even for Flex itself. It is the only way to win against the xaml, xul whatever rivals. My2Cents Benz Von: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März 2005 23:15 An: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Betreff: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Hi Lucian, I will need to speak to my clients ( I can't remember if they purchased the Flex License at v1 or v1.5 ). I'm sure that there is an amicable agreement that can be reached - price increases are an ongoing problem for everyone around the world but particularly for the small to medium whoever/whatever. Although larger companies must be careful to count the pennies (therefore looking after the pounds) they are in a much better position to find the cash to make larger purchases if it makes sense in the bigger picture. I imagine ( and I may be wrong ) that most of us are a little disturbed by not being able to see a price on a tag. Hardly anyone in the UK is used to haggling, and personally I'm not keen on squeezing as much out of someone as I can. I am not the one who authorises purchases, and I imagine that most of us here are in the same boat. It just feels very uncomfortable seeing a price tag for a small bag of sweets, a price tag for a large bag of sweets, but for medium and jumbo bags you have to haggle with the shop keeper. I'm not saying its wrong - I just think that lots of developers like me have a hard time having to go back to the people who make the purchasing decisions and trying to get them to pay an unknown but considerable amount of money for something that they are not sure that they want, and we are the ones that have to persuade them that they want it. For my part, I sold Flex based on the knowledge that my clients wanted to develop their webapps using the Flash Player. My experience of creating webapps in the Flash environment was most unpleasant(especially when having to work with designers that can't program and aren't at all tidy!) so I pushed the fact that the webapps would be developed much much faster using Flex thanwith Flash. Yes, there has been a bigger learning curve than I thought, but if I had tried to do this using Flash only - well I think that I would be in a hospital room with nice padded walls to dampen the sound of my screaming! I love Flex. And I'm gladsomeone else has bought it for me to work with. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message- From: Lucian Beebe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 21:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think thats pretty consistent with other software industry norms. Ill make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license?
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when there is no text. I think that it should. Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
The prices I gave below. They are $15,000 per CPU if you buy per CPU. If you want to get a package price on more than one CPU, we have the four CPU bundle called the Quick Start at $29,000. We don't have any 2-CPU pricing. Now having said that, where you are working on a Flex application that requires different deployment options, let us know. We are flexible to work with you. Please don't mistake us being flexible with wanting to keep the pricing private. The pricing is clearly stated. If you need something we don't provide, let us know because we want to work with you. Lucian -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:27 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price I am more than a little frustrated about this... why don't we discuss it right here publically? Why is there a pricing scheme that is private interview based? I just want to know: Is there a 1CPU price? If so, what is it? Is there a 2CPU price? If so, what is it? These are not difficult questions. If there are no purchasing options available that are smaller than this 'starter kit'. Please just say so. As I already said in my private email. I need to know the answer to these questions. I have a lot of damage control to attend to. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:16:43 -0800, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think that's pretty consistent with other software industry norms. I'll make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than the Dual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone. We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetra tion.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no older is slower arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message You are right, this is a bug. I believe there is a workaround, however. You can have mx:CheckBox label="" / instead of just mx:CheckBox / and you shouldn't have that problem. Thanks, Joan From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:27 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when there is no text. I think that it should. Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Hi, It seems to be an issue to meI will verify again and file it if its not filed already... Problem: Where you have a checkbox without label attribute, checkBox seems to take some default width and click on right (un)checks Checkbox. mx:CheckBox id=cb1 / Workaround: Add label attribute with empty string... mx:CheckBox label= / Thanks for bringing up this issue... -abdul From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when there is no text. I think that it should. Simon Fifield -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20 To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message- From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message Joan, That works like a dream! Thank you, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Joan Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:46To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity You are right, this is a bug. I believe there is a workaround, however. You can have mx:CheckBox label="" / instead of just mx:CheckBox / and you shouldn't have that problem. Thanks, Joan From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:27 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when there is no text. I think that it should. Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex). That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yet to see any software really get lower in price with increase in features...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early then once they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack - well it would explain a lot - just an analogy. Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX. You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @ $12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300 customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits - but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into the product based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what IT Manager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX, (even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to the powers that be and go yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going to buy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I know i'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem to read where people go Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it was more out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'm in different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to play in. Yet if the whole its priced for enterprise companies is just plain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia in some pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively about their spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX because they see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops we are no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..see our products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-k in products hehe. that was his exact words btw. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building a 6 month training process into the hire. Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read: http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs. I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX for one of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet, again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying power we have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end up caving in on price. Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it down to what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it could just fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or it could ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money and investment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can use Flex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is its background? what's its community like? what's its capabilities in terms of integration with your legacy systems or current technology etc.. I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made my first tier give me this eh, please explain - he straight away saw why it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to code DHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power, testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made. I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs more time in the oven. Flex is the sleeping giant. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
Hey Scott, I love the disclaimer at the bottom of your mossyblog.com site: We own this crap (Any hacking, copying, spaming, etc will result in headbutts) All trademarks property of their owners. blah blah.. . We also reserve the right to use poor spelling, terrible gramma and at times are not required to make sense. We are NOT Macromedia worshipers, we are infact Monkeys at a keyboard...OooO.OoO.oo Nice. Simon -Original Message-From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:57To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yetto see any software really get lower in price with increase infeatures...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early thenonce they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack -well it would explain a lot - just an analogy. Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @$12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits -but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into theproduct based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what ITManager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX,(even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to thepowers that be and go "yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going tobuy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I knowi'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem toread where people go "Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc"We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it wasmore out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'min different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to playin. Yet if the whole "its priced for enterprise" companies is justplain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia insome pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively abouttheir spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX becausethey see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops "weare no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..seeour products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-kin products"hehe. that was his exact words btw. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building a 6 month training process into the hire.Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read:http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs.I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX forone of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet,again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying powerwe have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end upcaving in on price.Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it downto what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it couldjust fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or itcould ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money andinvestment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can useFlex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is itsbackground? what's its community like? what's its capabilities interms of integration with your legacy systems or current technologyetc..I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made myfirst tier give me this "eh, please explain" - he straight away sawwhy it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to codeDHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power,testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made.I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs moretime in the oven.Flex is the sleeping giant.-- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.comhttp://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go
[flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties
Sorry if this is an obvious one, but I cant find in any documentation that confirms what I am finding. My question is does the variable in the actionScript class have to be the same name as the variable in the java class that it is mapping to. From what I am seeing it does. Can anyone confirm that? Thanks Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)
Benjamin Dobler wrote: Why no open source Flex? I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components, creating Actionscript components It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex. That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true. One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director experience in XML.) Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each request at serving time (as Flex usually does). I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
:) its what i do best.. ramble... i am so ready for politics i swear... On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:12:00 +0100, Simon Fifield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Scott, I love the disclaimer at the bottom of your mossyblog.com site: We own this crap (Any hacking, copying, spaming, etc will result in headbutts) All trademarks property of their owners. blah blah.. . We also reserve the right to use poor spelling, terrible gramma and at times are not required to make sense. We are NOT Macromedia worshipers, we are infact Monkeys at a keyboard...OooO.OoO.oo Nice. Simon -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 00:57 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex). That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yet to see any software really get lower in price with increase in features...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early then once they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack - well it would explain a lot - just an analogy. Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX. You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @ $12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300 customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits - but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into the product based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what IT Manager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX, (even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to the powers that be and go yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going to buy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I know i'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem to read where people go Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it was more out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'm in different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to play in. Yet if the whole its priced for enterprise companies is just plain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia in some pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively about their spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX because they see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops we are no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..see our products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-k in products hehe. that was his exact words btw. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building a 6 month training process into the hire. Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read: http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs. I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX for one of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet, again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying power we have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end up caving in on price. Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it down to what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it could just fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or it could ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money and investment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can use Flex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is its background? what's its community like? what's its capabilities in terms of integration with your legacy systems or current technology etc.. I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made my first tier give me this eh, please explain - he straight away saw why it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to code DHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power, testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made. I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs more time in the oven. Flex is the sleeping giant. -- Regards, Scott Barnes
Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)
Oh and then theres that small little umm requirement time. I agree, I remember back in the day i stupidly had this idea of using XML and Flash 6 together to describe my UI... Libby then invited me to this product called Royale and said check that out... it blew my mind as to how damn powerful it was and dwarfed any concept i had floating around in my head. At the same time Claus released DENG and again i was blown away by XML and FLASH together (sure his was more about XHTML etc). Point is this, the products been ready for the past couple of years yet the people who have tried it are either held back by time or loose interest. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:47:55 -0800, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Dobler wrote: Why no open source Flex? I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components, creating Actionscript components It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex. That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true. One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director experience in XML.) Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each request at serving time (as Flex usually does). I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale
The price for maintenance is based on the price you paid, not any new prices for new packaging that might be in place at a future date. Lucian -Original Message- From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:00 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment: we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time? According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right? Thanks, Dirk. PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash
It should rever to the this scope by default. I'm not sure where Ketan was going with where this rating - to me it sounded like it was done in flex but wanted to be used in flash or vice versa. Now i can see Ketan wants it done soley in Flash - which by looking at the code seems to hold up ok. I've not cut and pasted to test it, but i think it sounds like something isn't either named correctly inside the FLA that or like you said maybe the change events getting ignored. 1) Make sure your linkage names are correct 2) Debug your change to make sure it infact is getting a fired (via trace) 3) Make sure you as jess points out, import your mx.framework correctly (to cheat, I've often simply dragged a label onto stage - it seems to have the smallest payload in terms of the v2 framework and it brings with it generally the core ingredients) - or was it button..one of the two anyway. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:42:00 -0500, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure why your change event isn't getting fired; try doing 2 things: - in Flash, when you associate the ActionScript class to a movie clip, put a copy of the UIComponent on frame 2 with a stop(); action on frame 1 to prevent it from ever getting to frame 2. - change your code from: dispatchEvent({type: change}); to: dispatchEvent({type: change, target: this}); - Original Message - From: Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash Let me put my question in a different way. The code that I posted in earlier mail doesnt fire the change event On the change event of the component in the flash app nothing happens. I am able to capture the value on the click of a button but I want to capture that value on the click of the component. Any idea ?? Regards, Ketan Bengali. Scott Barnes wrote: I can't see anything below that will prevent you from using it inside FLASH IDE. You can do one of two things. 1) You can copy your assets/code into FLASH IDE, and make a component that way by cutting and pasting + importing assets. That based on what i've seen below would work out ok as the mx.framework is very similiar in its design with FLASH IDE... i'd only flag things if you used flex specific components like Panel etc... 2) Take your FLEX MXML and using the compc compile it to a SWC file, then copy it to your Flash IDE Program Files - again since your using the basics of the framework you should be right. I think when you use your component, FLASH IDE will tell its compiler to load the FLASH MX 2004 framewor as opposed to the FLEX version (thats if you have FlexForFlash installed inside your ide...if you haven't then ignore the above and just compile your mxml to a swc and use it like that) Under the Flash Docs, do a serach for Creating SWC files it will give you a step by step how to. Other than that, I'm not sure what else is doable. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:13:26 +0530, Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heres the code i have in my as file: import mx.controls.* import mx.core.UIObject import mx.events.EventDispatcher [Event(change)] [Event(click)] class CineRating extends mx.core.UIObject { static var symbolName:String = CineRating; static var symbolOwner:Object = CineRating; var className:String = CineRating; private var _rating:Number; private var starsCount:Number = 5; var movieRS:MovieClip; var _starNumber:Number; function CineRating() {} function init() { super.init(); movieRS._visible = true; } public function set rating(nRating:Number):Void { if(nRating%2 != 0 || nRating%2 != 1) { if(nRating - Math.floor(nRating) 0 nRating - Math.floor(nRating) 0.5) { nRating = Math.floor(nRating) } else { nRating = Math.ceil(nRating); } } this._rating = nRating; invalidate(); //draw(); dispatchEvent({type: change}); } public function draw() { if(!_parent[star+(starsCount-1)]) { for(var i:Number = 0; i starsCount;i++) { this.movieRS.duplicateMovieClip(star+i, i+1); this[star+i]._x = i * this[star+i]._width/0.95; this[star+i].starNumber = i; if(i _rating) { this[star+i].gotoAndStop(select); } else { this[star+i].gotoAndStop(default); } /*RollOver Event Declaration*/ this[star+i].onRollOver = function() { //mx.controls.Alert.show(Inside RollOver) var tname:Number; tname = this._name.charAt(this._name.length - 1);
[flexcoders] Flex PDA?
I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Ya apparently I need to be sending out my resume to companies that can afford this stuff! :) Scott Barnes wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:02:32 +0200, Michel Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? heh good luck with those, I'm not belittling th..actually I am. Think long-term, post FLEX 1.5 and what then. How far behind do you forsee products like Breeze, FlashCom, Flash Lite and even ye ol Central get intertwined with Flex in a more powerful approach. Its time in many ways to choose a technology and lets face it we are highly likely at a level in our projects that what we decide today will be our legacy for the next 2-5 years at the most? Laszlo is Flash 5.0 at the moment (or was it 6.0) and well yeah..always going to be close but no cigar with that product imho. I dunno, maybe i am in a company thats spoiling me but all said and done price models have shifted yes but not entirely convinced its a dramatically bad thing. Not saying i'd happilly wait for the day when its like 5k or something ;) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Ok, I am over defending the price hike now...her es why.
A lot of stuff here, so let me hit the highlights. Scott, and dozens more of you, we love the fact that you love Flex. We have tens of thousands of hours of development time into this product and it's a wonderful validation of our work that you love it. And don't think we take that lightly. Working directly with all of you is the only way we got Flex to the loving shape its in. We will continue to work with you. Continue to listen to every word you write. We may not respond to every message (we don't) and we may not react as fast as you would like, but you will see us react. Enough preamble, though it is all true. I read a couple of things here. On the OEM discussion. Our OEM licensing is very open and flexible. We really do recognize that companies are in all different sizes and places in their development. We want to get paid for the value OEMs will get from using our software, but sometimes we can't get paid until you do. This is exactly why I keep saying where you have a compelling model and there's something in it for everyone, let's talk. You'd be surprised to see the breadth of deals we do in that fashion, some would even work for your brilliant idea that didn't fly. To the broad discussion of transparency. We hear you. And others out there asking for the same thing. There are a few reasons to be concerned about giving away lots of details: US public company regulations, competition, rampant expectations, etc. But all of those are workable, of course. Over the coming months, I hope we can respond to your needs here with lots more openness. Over the past 6 months, you've seen more from Macromedia than in the past. You saw live demos of the Flash Player 8 a long time before its to be shipped which included feature descriptions, etc. While we'll never show everything, of course, we have more work to do and have lagged with Flex on this, admittedly, but we hope to make up for that over the next six months. Valid criticism. I appreciate that your mail gives us some broad directions to make sure we have covered. We'll be asking a LOT of people in the next few months what you need to know. I hope this helps you feel better about the immediate. For the long term, the only way to make you more comfortable is if our actions meet my words and your requests. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Ok, I am over defending the price hike now...heres why. Ok, I've always wondered about a few issue and i'm in a broody mood so i'll air it here: (heh) I'm a developer who would like to make productX, lets just say my productX is a great idea for me to believe in. Now if i am stupid enough right now to attack my dream with Flex as a front-end tier and lets assume it all comes together and works a treat. I then go to market with my idea, i look around and eventually I find 5 customers willing to buy that said product. What are my options in terms of approaching Macromedia? Do i go down the OEM route? last i heard it was like 12% of the total price tag (i sell at) and you had to commit to x-number of UNITS in purchase. That for me is THE number one question I get asked when people probe me for insight into why flex is great and is always followed up with a yeah but how can i sell it to my clients. (I've been freely giving away advice / consultancy on FLEX and its power because i want more people using it to justify my personal investment in learning the product. Brisbane apparently has a few factions using it and i want more!) Now this could range from medoke web-site apps, CMS systems or into one big eBusiness off the shelf self deploy intranet system for a company to buy and then EXTEND outward. I know my company did just that, bought an intranet system and now they are extending outward to suite. Where is the innovation incubator - *I* know if i come up with a good idea, proove its working, i can then approach my local MM Sales team with it and they will give me an open honest answer - but thats me, i know that and the reason i know that as i've built up a relationship with them over the years. What i'm stating is wheres that encouragement in full public view, case studies and what not. Its like its one big secret and i have to ask why? its extremly harder for people like me to walk in and pitch it to people with buying power. MXDU 2005 by all reports had people shocked and excited that one vendor from Straker was able to get an apparent sweet deal on CFMX+FLEX in OEM? I heard more people talking about that then the freakin conference - which showed one thing, MM you have peoples attention with flex. I am not trying to be a pain in the butt and critical of the evil empire that which is Macromedia, just really curious as to why FLEX needs to be thise constant closed book and isn't as transparent as everyone seems to think. Where is its roadmap for the
RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?
This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the futures for Flex. As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is absolutely a direction we are heading. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Financially, obviously they ran their cost/market/etc analysis and came up with those numbers. I think one thing that is a risk play for MM is the intangible value of the critical mass when it comes to community knowledge. Eg there are so many Coldfusion guys that you have city level user groups all over the world. Flex has -1- for the entire planet. :) If I were buying into a brand new technology, and it's the greatest thing the world has ever seen, but as far as you know you're the only one into it - then your only source of support is the vendor. In terms of Flex dedicated sites you've got a couple of blogs, CFlex and Flex Authority. There's a long way to go! Community support is critical to technology adoption. It was the second thing my manager asked about (the first was the price), because they didn't want to invest in a technology that hardly anyone knows - puts too much dependence on one or two people. So to compensate for this, MM has been providing a lot of developer support for free in this forum - that's a huge cost when you have premium developer time spent doing a ton of emails. So by increasing the price, you're reducing the amount of potential developers, knowledge sharers, activitists, evangelists, resource sites, etc... which will result in MM having to continue dedicating heavy amounts of resources towards keeping the community floating along. It'll be interesting to see how things play out. Here's some ideas :) - LoanMX to help companies pay for Flex - Work For Licenses Program. Dedicate your coding time towards Macromedia projects in exchange for points that you can redeem for discounts on s/w. ...sigh Benoit Hediard wrote: I don't see the point of this licensing change. With the old licensing: Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000, Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for more than ~$29 000. Everybody were happy. With the new licensing: Business case A- not anymore...??? Business case B- not anymore...??? Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing) This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it answers less business cases. The contrary would have been a much clever move: Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a real starter kit...). I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many opportunities). Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price. Strange... I don't understand... Ben -Message d'origine- De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I think a more serious contender is Xamlon. Previewing on April 6th. http://news.com.com/Software+turns+.Net+to+Flash/2100-1032_3-5647420.html Jeff Steiner wrote: My guess is that you will be back. Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing their best to output as a swf. MM is doing something right - they hold all the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the web. My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote their company's future to flash). I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex world to see what they missed. Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it. Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo. -- Original message -- Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out to be. From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian, "4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support." It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol! "Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. " It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users... I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with s Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I've owned MACR shares since Sept. It's one of my best performing stocks! JesterXL wrote: Forbes recommended that investors do so. - Original Message - From: "Michel Jansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian Beebe wrote: Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. Thanx for the compliment. Although i am no economist, i'm not stupid. Just like you guys. Who is going to pull prices up if the product aint selling. The CFO that does this is the real moron! Good luck... Should i buy some shares??? Michel Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ inline: moz-screenshot.jpg
[flexcoders] My Apologies
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[flexcoders] Flex license
Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy multiple apps using the same license number on the same server? Thanks a lot. Valy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex license
The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would like to run on the CPUs licensed. Lucian -Original Message- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy multiple apps using the same license number on the same server? Thanks a lot. Valy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
I have had Some Shares for much longer, its about break even for me. :( --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tarik Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've owned MACR shares since Sept. It's one of my best performing stocks! JesterXL wrote: Forbes recommended that investors do so. - Original Message - From: Michel Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Lucian Beebe wrote: Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. Thanx for the compliment. Although i am no economist, i'm not stupid. Just like you guys. Who is going to pull prices up if the product aint selling. The CFO that does this is the real moron! Good luck... Should i buy some shares??? Michel Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex license
If you buy a 2CPU you can deploy on 2 Servers (each having 1 cpu) right? On Apr 1, 2005 12:56 PM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would like to run on the CPUs licensed. Lucian -Original Message- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy multiple apps using the same license number on the same server? Thanks a lot. Valy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?
heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its refreshing..but mostly annoying. Thanks for confirming that :) That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever. Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ PDA's and where do i start kind of thing. The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. That's the angle in which I want to approach. On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the futures for Flex. As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is absolutely a direction we are heading. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects
Thanks Jason, that nailed it. I had played around with the event but not got it right. It's so obvious when I see your solution. Cheers Mike. From: Jason Szeto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 April 2005 5:21 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects Mike,Add listener.onEffectEnd(this);to the end of your playEffect function. This will tell the Sequence effectthat the effect is finished playing. The Sequence effect sets itself as thelistener of each of its child effects. Jason-Original Message-From: Mike Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:01 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 EffectsHi Folks,Does anyone know why the following custom effect class which I am trying touse to call various functions in an effect sequence would cause the sequenceto halt after running the called function.Thanks Mike.import mx.effects.Effect;class com.webqem.flex.effects.CallFunctionEffect extends Effect { private var obj:Object; private var func:String; private var args:Array; function CallFunctionEffect(obj:Object, func:String) { this.obj = obj; this.func = func; arguments.shift(); arguments.shift(); this.args = arguments; } public function playEffect():Void { if (obj != null func != null) { obj[func].apply(obj, args); } } public function getAffectedProperties():Array { return new Array(); }}Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?
Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such apps... We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :) I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do this for you... -abdul -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its refreshing..but mostly annoying. Thanks for confirming that :) That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever. Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ PDA's and where do i start kind of thing. The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. That's the angle in which I want to approach. On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the futures for Flex. As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is absolutely a direction we are heading. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?
where do you start though? got any URLS for a kickstart or something along those lines. Atm the PDA's used are iPAQ ones *latest* not sure on exact model. They have talked about wireless lans being installed in the office etc... just thought i would be a big ol star if i turn around in a month and go - yeah this is flex phase 01..nice isn't it..oh who has their PDA here...now check your inbox... ;) I could get a payrise then ;) hehehe. On Apr 1, 2005 2:20 PM, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such apps... We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :) I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do this for you... -abdul -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its refreshing..but mostly annoying. Thanks for confirming that :) That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever. Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ PDA's and where do i start kind of thing. The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. That's the angle in which I want to approach. On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the futures for Flex. As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is absolutely a direction we are heading. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex Pricing: Relax!
I have started many discussions on Flex pricing, and contributed heavily to each and every other previous Flex pricing post, because I was convinced that Flex pricing killed my and other Flex lovers' opportunities. The reason why I did not contribute until so far is simple. I have experienced that for hot opportunities Macromedia is willing to work out the right deal for you and your customer. They don't kill your opportunities. This is a proven fact. So if you think Flex may be the right solution for your customer's business problem, don't let the pricetag intimidate you. Contact Macromedia and work it out! The real threat, however, comes from a different corner. High price tags might frighten developers to seriously invest in Flex. Return on investment may seem far lower than frominvesting in any other platform.The number of experienced, professional Flex developers is low at the moment and may not rise fast enough to realize all Flex opportunities that pop-up in the market in the coming years.Therefore it is absolutely necessary that Macromedia will provide a range of other Flex packages soon. Fromlow-cost (stripped down server-based versions) to no-cost (just mxml compilation without server-based features; the developer-centered Flash alternative).The critical success factor in the next period is not the Flex price tag, but the number of experienced, highly qualified developers out there that master MXML and AS2 and can rapidly create the killer applications Flex can offer. Don't make it a second ColdFusion:powerful platform, excellent programming language, not enough developers. Vinny Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties
Hi, My question is does the variable in the actionScript class have to be the same name as the variable in the java class that it is mapping to. YesIf you want to map an ActionScript class to a typed java class on server, you need to have following things: - Your ActionScript class should have same name as Java class has. - Property name in ActionScript class should match with property/getter names in Java class. - You need to register your class using Object.registerClass(com.Product, com.Product); Assuming com.Product is java class on server and also in AS.. - Your ActionScript class cannot use properties that are declared as getter/setter properties using the get and set keywords; the properties must be real variables. For more info, see this page: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/flex_docs_en/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/w whelp.htm?href=2246.htm And this page: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/flex_docs_en/0778.htm Hope that helps... -abdul From: Jeff Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:10 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties Sorry if this is an obvious one, but I can't find in any documentation that confirms what I am finding. My question is does the variable in the actionScript class have to be the same name as the variable in the java class that it is mapping to. From what I am seeing it does. Can anyone confirm that? Thanks Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex license
So then what is stopping an ISP from using that methodology? Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex license The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would like to run on the CPUs licensed. Lucian -Original Message- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy multiple apps using the same license number on the same server? Thanks a lot. Valy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex on a PDA - Beta?
Lucian, Any way I could be considered for a beta on that? Thanks, Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex license
Well your then reselling flex over and over in smaller pieces... in that your buying the server as you company X to use as many times as you want provided you don't resell that server to company Y unless authorized? On Apr 1, 2005 2:39 PM, Jeff Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then what is stopping an ISP from using that methodology? Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex license The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would like to run on the CPUs licensed. Lucian -Original Message- From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy multiple apps using the same license number on the same server? Thanks a lot. Valy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?
Hi Scott, You can find some tutorials on macromedia.compocket_pcdevnet.. http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/devices/pocket_pc.html Hope that helps... -abdul PS: Payrise, hmm, all the best for that -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:56 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? where do you start though? got any URLS for a kickstart or something along those lines. Atm the PDA's used are iPAQ ones *latest* not sure on exact model. They have talked about wireless lans being installed in the office etc... just thought i would be a big ol star if i turn around in a month and go - yeah this is flex phase 01..nice isn't it..oh who has their PDA here...now check your inbox... ;) I could get a payrise then ;) hehehe. On Apr 1, 2005 2:20 PM, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such apps... We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :) I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do this for you... -abdul -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its refreshing..but mostly annoying. Thanks for confirming that :) That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever. Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ PDA's and where do i start kind of thing. The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when they next get a free moment. That's the angle in which I want to approach. On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the futures for Flex. As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is absolutely a direction we are heading. Lucian -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex PDA? I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines - something to tap into the PDA. Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie points here in terms of that style approach... -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/