[flexcoders] Tab navigator questions

2005-03-31 Thread r0main


Hello, few questions regarding a TabNavigator:
- I'd like to left-align tab label inside of fixed-width tabs, how
can I do this ?
- I'd like to manage the placement of the icons I can display in
tabs, like right aligning that icon when the label itself is
left-aligned 
- Also, how can I change the icon associated with a given tab and
have that tab's icon refresh (ie. changed visually ) ?

Thanks, r0main





 
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[flexcoders] DataGrid getColumnName problem

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield





Hi 
Flexcoders,

I have a DataGrid 
that uses the same data in 2 columns but each with a different labelFunction to 
display the data in different ways. the data is called 'depart' in the 
dataProvider and so to get this data I have to the same name to the 
2columns in the DataGrid that display the data 
differently.

When I use 
dg.getColumnName('depart') I always get the first of the 2 columns. I know I can 
use dg.getColumnAt( colIndex ) butin the future Iwould prefer to use 
the column name. I have seen an extended DataGid that allows the dragging and 
re-ordering of columns so the ColumnIndex will not be 
possible.

Can I use id 
somehow?


Kind Regards,

Simon Fifield
Mango 
Solutions








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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Michel Jansen

Matt Horn wrote:

 An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
 time??

 Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)

You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your 
licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be 
actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am 
loosing a customer here ;-((

Good luck...

Michel


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Sjors Pals

4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


Michel Jansen wrote:

 Matt Horn wrote:

  An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
  time??
 
  Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)

 You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
 licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be
 actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am
 loosing a customer here ;-((

 Good luck...

 Michel

 
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[flexcoders] Value Object Help

2005-03-31 Thread digital_eyezed


Hi,

I need a little help:

I have a remoteobject which returns an array of Value Objects. The 
value object contains two ints (numbers) and a string. I want to 
display this on a datagrid. How do I convert this array into 
something that I can use?

 I have created an actionscript class (testVO.as) which mirrors the 
java Class testVO so I think I'm going in the right direction, now 
all I need to do is iterate through the array (remoteObject.result, 
which is where I am stuck (my actionscript is obviously a bit rusty).

Cheers

Java:

public class TestVO {
public String name;
public int total;
public int today;

public void setName(String name){
this.name = name;
}
public void setToday(int today){
this.today = today;
}
public void setTotal(int total){
this.total = total;
}
public String getName(){
return this.name;
}
public float getTotal(){
return this.total;
}
public float getToday(){
return this.today;
}
}

ActionScript:

public class TestVO {
var name:String;
var total:Number;
var today:Number;

public void setName(name:String){
this.name = name;
}
public void setToday(today:Number){
this.today = today;
}
public void setTotal(total:Number){
this.total = total;
}
public String getName(){
return this.name;
}
public float getTotal(){
return this.total;
}
public float getToday(){
return this.today;
}
}





 
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[flexcoders] mailform

2005-03-31 Thread robert hauser

hi there,

does anybody know how to create a mail-form in flex

thx



 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Valy Sivec





Lucian,
"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus Sedans...lol!

"Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. "

It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users...

I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. 

Regards,
ValyLucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flexapplication or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get bigor industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply tothe small and medium business and be good for those proof of conceptprojects. Lucian -Original Message-From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?Regards,Sjors PalsMichel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote:  An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase  time??   Was this before or after the
 tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel   matt   *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor*  ADVERTISEMENT  click here  http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075    *Yahoo! Groups
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Re: [flexcoders] Digest Number 679

2005-03-31 Thread dunwerkin

 Subject: Re: Flex 1.5 price
 
 Matt Horn wrote:
 
  An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
  time??
 
  Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
 
 You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
 licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be
 actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am
 loosing a customer here ;-((
 

I certainly recognize that Flex is mainly targetted at the
enterprise.  However, Flex-style UI creation would have the
potential for a much larger following if a reasonably priced option
was available for one-off type work by independant developers or small
businesses.  There's a huge gap between a NCL and someone that has a
4-way server!  Think of the same needs being met by someone buying the
Standard cversion of CF, not everyone needs the feature set of
Enterprise.

I'd still like to see a *standalone compiler version* as opposed to
the server version.  Call it Flex-lite if you will, and price it
competitively with other standalone compiler technologies.

Adam


 
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Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash

2005-03-31 Thread JesterXL

Not sure why your change event isn't getting fired; try doing 2 things:
- in Flash, when you associate the ActionScript class to a movie clip, put a 
copy of the UIComponent on frame 2 with a stop(); action on frame 1 to 
prevent it from ever getting to frame 2.
- change your code from:

dispatchEvent({type: change});

to:

dispatchEvent({type: change, target: this});


- Original Message - 
From: Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash



Let me put my question in a different way.

The code that I posted in earlier mail doesnt fire the change event
On the change event of the component in the flash app nothing happens.

I am able to capture the value on the click of a button but I want
to capture that value on the click of the component.

Any idea ??

Regards,

Ketan Bengali.



Scott Barnes wrote:

I can't see anything below that will prevent you from using it inside FLASH 
IDE.

You can do one of two things.

1) You can copy your assets/code into FLASH IDE, and make a component
that way by cutting and pasting + importing assets. That based on what
i've seen below  would work out ok as the mx.framework is very
similiar in its design with FLASH IDE... i'd only flag things if you
used flex specific components like Panel etc...

2) Take your FLEX MXML and using the compc compile it to a SWC file,
then copy it to your Flash IDE Program Files - again since your using
the basics of the framework you should be right. I think when you use
your component, FLASH IDE will tell its compiler to load the FLASH MX
2004 framewor as opposed to the FLEX version (thats if you have
FlexForFlash installed inside your ide...if you haven't then ignore
the above and just compile your mxml to a swc and use it like that)

Under the Flash Docs, do a serach for Creating SWC files it will
give you a step by step how to.

Other than that, I'm not sure what else is doable.


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:13:26 +0530, Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Heres the code i have in my as file:

import mx.controls.*
import mx.core.UIObject
import mx.events.EventDispatcher
[Event(change)]
[Event(click)]

class CineRating extends mx.core.UIObject {

static var symbolName:String = CineRating;
static var symbolOwner:Object = CineRating;
var className:String = CineRating;

private var _rating:Number;

private var starsCount:Number = 5;
var movieRS:MovieClip;
var _starNumber:Number;

function CineRating() {}

function init() {
super.init();
movieRS._visible = true;
}

public function set rating(nRating:Number):Void {
if(nRating%2 != 0 || nRating%2 != 1) {
if(nRating - Math.floor(nRating)  0  nRating -
Math.floor(nRating)  0.5) {
nRating = Math.floor(nRating)
} else {
nRating = Math.ceil(nRating);
}
}

this._rating = nRating;
invalidate();
//draw();
dispatchEvent({type: change});
}

public function draw() {

if(!_parent[star+(starsCount-1)]) {

for(var i:Number = 0; i  starsCount;i++) {
this.movieRS.duplicateMovieClip(star+i, i+1);
this[star+i]._x = i * this[star+i]._width/0.95;
this[star+i].starNumber = i;

if(i  _rating) {
this[star+i].gotoAndStop(select);
}
else {
this[star+i].gotoAndStop(default);
}

/*RollOver Event Declaration*/

this[star+i].onRollOver = function() {

//mx.controls.Alert.show(Inside RollOver)

var tname:Number;
tname = this._name.charAt(this._name.length - 1);

//mx.controls.Alert.show();
if(tname = (_parent._rating - 1))
return;

if(tname  _parent._rating - 1) {
for(var k:Number = _parent._rating; k = tname;
k++) {
var myStar = eval(_parent + . + star + k);

myStar.gotoAndStop(hover);
}
}
}

/*RollOut Event Declaration*/

this[star+i].onRollOut = function() {
var tname:Number;
tname = Number(this._name.charAt(this._name.length -
1));

if(tname = (_parent._rating - 1)) {
return;
}

for(var j:Number = _parent._rating; j 
_parent.starsCount; j++) {
var myStar = eval(_parent + . + star + j);
myStar.gotoAndStop(default);
}
}

/*Press Event Declaration*/


RE: [flexcoders] Value Object Help

2005-03-31 Thread Dimitrios Gianninas





Hi,

No need to do anything special, 
just do:

myDataGrid.dataProvider = 
remoteObject.result;

Then the data grid should be 
declared as follows:

mx:DataGrid id="myDataGrid"
mx:columns
 
mx:Array
 
mx:DataGridColumn columnName="name" headerText="Name" /
 
mx:DataGridColumn columnName="total" headerText="Total" /
 
mx:DataGridColumn columnName="today" headerText="Today" /
 
/mx:Array 
/mx:columns
/mx:DataGrid

No need to 
iterate.

Jimmy 
Gianninas
Software Developer - 
Optimal Payments 
Inc.



From: digital_eyezed 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:19 
AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Value Object Help
Hi,I need a little help:I have a remoteobject 
which returns an array of Value Objects. The value object contains two ints 
(numbers) and a string. I want to display this on a datagrid. How do I convert this array into something that I can use?I have created an 
actionscript class (testVO.as) which mirrors the java Class testVO so I think I'm going in the right direction, now all I need to do is iterate 
through the array (remoteObject.result, which is where I am stuck (my actionscript is obviously a bit rusty).CheersJava:public 
class TestVO { public String 
name; public int 
total; public int 
today;  public void setName(String name){ 
 this.name = 
name; } public void setToday(int today){ 
 this.today = 
today; } 
public void setTotal(int total){ 
 this.total = 
total; } 
public String getName(){ 
 return 
this.name; } 
public float getTotal(){ 
 return 
this.total; 
} public float 
getToday(){  
return this.today; 
}}ActionScript:public class TestVO 
{ var 
name:String; var 
total:Number; var 
today:Number; 
 public void 
setName(name:String){ 
 this.name = 
name; } public void setToday(today:Number){ 
 this.today = 
today; } 
public void setTotal(total:Number){ 
 this.total = 
total; } 
public String getName(){ 
 return 
this.name; } 
public float getTotal(){ 
 return 
this.total; 
} public float 
getToday(){  
return this.today; 
}}

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[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh





Well, we have just committed to Flex and fortunately beat 
the price rise - paperwork justcompleted with Macromedia 
UK.

First, a big thank you to this list. Whoever started the 
price increase rumour did us a favour. 

We have been prototyping and playing with Flex for a couple 
of months now and have liked what see - both in terms of the 'Richness' Flex can 
bring to the user experience AND the 'Rapid' way we canCODE that 
experience. Of course, we have always known Flex to be (for us) an expensive 
option but, basing our budgeting on the old $12,000 price, we felt that we could 
justify the cost even though we were 'at our limit'. Our financial year ends on 
April 30, and we were planning to buyat the end ofApril and use up 
our budget - thank goodness we didn't wait and were able to secure the old 
pricing.

I say thank goodness because, to be quite honest, we 
wouldNOT have purchased at the new prices and we would have been cursing 
for weeks because of 2 months wasted development effort. I can understand why 
others are 'angry' at the price increase, especially the smaller 
organisations/developers like us. Flex might be an enterprise class product but 
I would suggest you don't have to bea 'deep pocketed' enterprise to make 
good use of it.

When we spoke to Macromedia UK we were told that the old 
(12,000) pricing was 'early adopter' pricing and they confirmed the price 
increase as Lucian has done. I have to say, that if you are discounting a 
product for early adopters, it is normal to say so upfront, indeed it is usually 
done to encourage adoption in an open way. I can't remember Macromedia saying 
the 12,000 price was discounted for early adopters (but I might of missed it), 
so the increase in price now seems an unusual marketing 
tactic.

I hope Flex goes from strength to strength regardless of 
price, and sincerely hope Macromedia haven't killed it via seemingly odd pricing 
decisions.

Anyway, as I said, we have now committed and we look 
forward to many years of happy Flex development. 


Regards
Ian
PS One bit of good news - 
annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it 
at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future 
years.







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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Dirk Eismann

I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we 
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be 
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on 
 the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 
 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.



 
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Re: [flexcoders] Reloading of Flex WAR

2005-03-31 Thread Ashley Streb

Answering my own question from a while back in case it helps anyone else...

(Note: this on version 5.5.7 of tomcat, which I know is officially 
unsupported)

Tomcat 5.x has a setting for anitJARLocking and antiResourceLocking 
attributes on the Context element in the conf/context.xml.  Setting 
those to true made it possible for us to reload our web-apps.

-ashley

Ashley Streb wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I am unable to undeploy a running Flex web-app from Tomcat.  When I
 undeploy it (using the tomcat ant tasks), tomcat leaves behind the
 following directory structure:
 
 WEB-INF/flex/jars/
 flex.jar
 xercesImpl.jar
 
 So, instead of just re-waring my files and deploying, I need to stop
 tomcat, start tomcat and then attempt a redeploy.
 
 Has anyone else run into this problem?  Any ideas? Thanks!
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)










Surely the fact the price is going up
means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as
widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs
would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. 



I would be interested to see how many
people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto  I bet
it is not as widespread as its made out to be.



















From: Valy Sivec
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price









Lucian,


4 CPUs and Gold Support for
$29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.



It's like going to the car dealer ship and the
guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase
model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus
Sedans...lol!



Finally, for
software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special
pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is
important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you
to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using
Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right
packaging/pricing to fit your needs. 





It's clear for me that MM have this price for the
big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales
contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2
CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users...



I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a
bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. 



Regards,

Valy

Lucian Beebe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





We wanted to make a package
that applies to many people for their first Flex
application or for several smallish Flex
applications. When things get big
or industrial strength, more than four is
required. But this should apply to
the small and medium business and be good for
those proof of concept
projects. 

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that
on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


Michel Jansen wrote:

 Matt Horn wrote:

  An old dutch saying : Prices can
only go down... Laszo/BackBase
  time??
 
  Was this before or after the tulip
craze? :)

 You can make a joke off this but i think that
raising the price for your
 licenses more than 100% is not the smartest
thing to do! It can be
 actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with
Gold Support but i am
 loosing a customer here ;-((

 Good luck...

 Michel

 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread jeff tapper

Seems to me like you misunderstand the principles of supply and 
demand.  One doesnt usually raise the price on a product that isnt 
selling.  Quite the opposite according to most economic principles...

At 10:04 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote:
Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well 
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to 
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more 
users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.

I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex 
and are using it with Gusto – I bet it is not as widespread as it’s made 
out to be.






--
From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

Lucian,

4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus 
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper 
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!

Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their 
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and 
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, 
we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for 
your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us 
know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit 
your needs. 

It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs 
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much 
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still 
considered expensive by many potential users...

I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come 
back with special discounts, etc.

Regards,
Valy

Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex
application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big
or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply to
the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept
projects.

Lucian

-Original Message-
From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


Michel Jansen wrote:

  Matt Horn wrote:
 
   An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
   time??
  
   Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
 
  You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
  licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be
  actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am
  loosing a customer here ;-((
 
  Good luck...
 
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[flexcoders] Key class Help

2005-03-31 Thread Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR
Hi list,

I need some help/explanation about Key class. Based on the examples
mentioned in the live docs as well as in Action Script Language Reference I
created the following mxml files. I want to use the Key class to allow the
user use key board to access UI Objects, but no success. Any help
appreciated.


 Keyboard_2.mxml  Keyboard_0.mxml  Keyboard_1.mxml 

Thanks!
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Benoit Hediard

I don't see the point of this licensing change.

With the old licensing:
Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000,
Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000,
Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it
for more than ~$29 000.

Everybody were happy.

With the new licensing:
Business case A- not anymore...???
Business case B- not anymore...???
Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold
support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing)

This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it
answers less business cases.
The contrary would have been a much clever move:
Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a
real starter kit...).

I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to
confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many
opportunities).

Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price.

Strange... I don't understand...

Ben

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À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


Michel Jansen wrote:

 Matt Horn wrote:

  An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
  time??
 
  Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)

 You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)

Erm, not really - it seems to be a Catch-22 system doesn't it.. Put the
price up so lower sales gives still give you expected revenue... or lower
the price so larger sales can give you expected revenue.

Flex is goodno messing but it is pretty obvious that the demand is high
for it but the cost is seriously hampering the sales...






-Original Message-
From: jeff tapper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 March 2005 16:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


Seems to me like you misunderstand the principles of supply and 
demand.  One doesnt usually raise the price on a product that isnt 
selling.  Quite the opposite according to most economic principles...

At 10:04 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote:
Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well 
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to 
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more 
users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.

I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex 
and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made 
out to be.






--
From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

Lucian,

4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus 
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper 
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!

Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their 
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and 
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, 
we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for 
your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us 
know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit 
your needs. 

It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs 
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much 
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still 
considered expensive by many potential users...

I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come 
back with special discounts, etc.

Regards,
Valy

Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first
Flex
application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big
or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply
to
the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept
projects.

Lucian

-Original Message-
From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


Michel Jansen wrote:

  Matt Horn wrote:
 
   An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
   time??
  
   Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
 
  You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
  licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be
  actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am
  loosing a customer here ;-((
 
  Good luck...
 
  Michel
 
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Steiner

Dirk,

When I talked to my account manager the other day - he told me that the
price you pay is the basis for future maintenance agreements.  I would still
check with yours.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com

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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:59 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale



 I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

 we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

 According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

 Thanks,
 Dirk.

  PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on
  the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the
  'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.




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[flexcoders] Filtering Results from a DataProvider

2005-03-31 Thread Ashley Streb

I wrote a custom data provider that will filter results from a wrapped 
DataProvider.  The idea was that you could plug in different filters; 
filter on partially typed words, location etc.

This custom data provider (FilterDataProvider) extends the 
mx.control.listclasses.DataProvider class.

I'm running into two problems and the solutions to those problems allude me.

The first is that my DataGrid is not receiving modelChanged events that 
my FilterDataProvider fires.

The second is that my DataGrid is not setting the selectedItem property 
when I click on a row.  It also does not highlight the row that I clicked.

Here is the code from my FilterDataProvider (I've removed some of the 
extraneous function calls for brevity/readability).  The important thing 
to note is that the FilterDataProvider receives events from its 
configured filters indicating that something about them has changed and 
they need to refilter the data.  These events are received by the 
filterDataProvider, which in turn fires off a modelChanged event.  I've 
confirmed that the FilterDataProvider is indeed receiving events from 
its configured filters (alerting out messages), and I've also confirmed 
that the DataGrid that this filterDataProvider is configured on never 
receives the modelChanged event. (I extended the DataGrid class and 
overrode the modelChanged method, alerted out a message before calling 
super.modelChanged)

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!


class FilterDataProvider
extends DataProvider
{

public var source : DataProvider;
public var filters : Array; 


public function get length():Number {
var sourceLength:Number = mSource.length;
var filteredLength : Number = 0;
for (var i:Number = 0; i  sourceLength; i++) {
var item = mSource.getItemAt(i);
if (accept(item)) {
filteredLength++;
}
}

return filteredLength;
}



public function getItemAt(pIndex:Number) {
var sourceLength:Number = mSource.length;
for (var i:Number = pIndex + mOffset; i  sourceLength; i++) {
var item = mSource.getItemAt(i);
if (accept(item)) {
return item;
}   
}
return null;
}



private function accept(pItem) : Boolean
{
var filterLength:Number = mFilters.length;
for (var i:Number = 0; i  filterLength; i++) {
var filter:Filter = mFilters[i];
if (!filter.accept(pItem)) {
return false;
}
}

return true;
}


public function processFilterChangedEvent(pEvent:Object) {  
var eventObject : Object;
eventObject.type = modelChanged;
eventObject.eventName = updateAll;
dispatchEvent(eventObject);
}
}

mxml registration...

components:FilterDataProvider source={remoteObject.result} 
id=filterProvider/

   components:FancyDataGrid id=videoGrid
   width=100% height=100% dataProvider=filterProvider
-ashley



 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread d-weimer



We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g. Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do with Flex even though we have purchased it.

Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

-- Original message -- 






Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive. 

I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto – I bet it is not as widespread as it’s made out to be.









From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price



Lucian,
"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus Sedans...lol!

"Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. "

It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still considered expensive by many potential users...

I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come back with special discounts, etc. 

Regards,
ValyLucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flexapplication or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get bigor industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply tothe small and medium business and be good for those proof of conceptprojects. Lucian -Original Message-From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?Regards,Sjors PalsMichel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote:  An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase  time??   Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel   matt   *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor*  ADVERTISEMENT  click here  http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075    *Yahoo! Groups Links*   * To visit your group on the web, go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of  Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.   *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075   *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/  * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.Yahoo! Groups Links



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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh

Dirk, that is what I was told (in writing) - maintenance at 20% of the price
you pay (per year).

In fact we bought an additional year's maintenance with our order (the first
year was included). 

Hope this helps.

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I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you 
 paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay 
 less for maintenance in future years.



 
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[flexcoders] Fw: .NET to Flash: good or bad for Flex

2005-03-31 Thread Dennis Jackson


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From: Jackson, Dennis (PPC) 
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http://news.zdnet.com/Software+turns+.Net+to+Flash/2100-3513_22-5647420.html?part=rsstag=feedsubj=zdnn
 
I saw this, I cant decide if 
 
This is good because it makes flash the default player for just about 
everything that is currently on the market. 
 
Or if
 
This is bad because it seems to be another thing that does the same thing but 
is cheaper and has more developers that know how to program in it
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Michel Jansen

Benoit Hediard wrote:

 I don't see the point of this licensing change.

I do. The only reasonable explaination is that Flex is selling as fast 
as lightning! Hire a team of M$ WebProgrammers for a few months and look 
at the BILLS...  You will run to MM and buy Flex!

MJ


 With the old licensing:
 Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000,
 Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000,
 Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could 
 buy it
 for more than ~$29 000.

 Everybody were happy.

 With the new licensing:
 Business case A- not anymore...???
 Business case B- not anymore...???
 Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold
 support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing)

 This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any 
 improvement, it
 answers less business cases.
 The contrary would have been a much clever move:
 Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 
 000 (a
 real starter kit...).

 I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to
 confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so 
 many
 opportunities).

 Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price.

 Strange... I don't understand...

 Ben

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 Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

 Regards,

 Sjors Pals


 Michel Jansen wrote:

  Matt Horn wrote:
 
   An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
   time??
  
   Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
 
  You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for
  your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can
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  loosing a customer here ;-((
 
  Good luck...
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Steiner

My guess is that you will be back.

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, 

This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing
their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they hold all
the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that
they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
their company's future to flash).

I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they
want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
world to see what they missed.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying
'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do
with Flex even though we have purchased it.

 Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

 -- Original message -- 

 Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users
to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.

 I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex
and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out
to be.








 From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

 Lucian,

 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
 than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.

 It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!

 Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we
are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so
we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.

 It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
considered expensive by many potential users...

 I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come
back with special discounts, etc.

 Regards,
 Valy

 Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first
Flex
 application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big
 or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply
to
 the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept
 projects.

 Lucian

 -Original Message-
 From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

 Regards,

 Sjors Pals


 Michel Jansen wrote:

  Matt Horn wrote:
 
   An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
   time??
  
   Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
 
  You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
  licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do!  It can be
  actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am
  loosing a customer here ;-((
 
  Good luck...
 
  Michel
 
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Sjors Pals

Well i think that when MM keeps their technology for their selves that 
the chance is big that someone takes legal action.
And there is an other danger, if MM keeps the Cards for their selves the 
chance is big, someone else says: lets make our own cards and spread 
them for free.




Jeff Steiner wrote:

 My guess is that you will be back.

 Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you 
 have to
 wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
 people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
 capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
 knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
 available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
 it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
 developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and 
 Breeze, and
 Flash, 

 This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are 
 doing
 their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they 
 hold all
 the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
 web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and 
 that
 they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
 their company's future to flash).

 I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
 iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that 
 they
 want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
 decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
 world to see what they missed.

 Jeff
 http://www.flexauthority.com



 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


  We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few 
 deploying
 'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
 Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we 
 ever do
 with Flex even though we have purchased it.
 
  Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.
 
  -- Original message --
 
  Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well
 (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
 believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more 
 users
 to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.
 
  I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased 
 Flex
 and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's 
 made out
 to be.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
  Lucian,
 
  4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
  than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.
 
  It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the 
 Lexus
 SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
 than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!
 
  Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their
 applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
 your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in 
 Flex, we
 are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
 needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us 
 know so
 we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your 
 needs.
 
  It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small 
 fishs
 like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
 might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
 considered expensive by many potential users...
 
  I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come
 back with special discounts, etc.
 
  Regards,
  Valy
 
  Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first
 Flex
  application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things 
 get big
  or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should 
 apply
 to
  the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept
  projects.
 
  Lucian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
 
  4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?
 
  Regards,
 
  Sjors Pals
 
 
  Michel Jansen wrote:
 
   Matt Horn wrote:
  
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase
time??
   
Was this 

[flexcoders] charts / stacked view

2005-03-31 Thread christoph larch

hi there,
when i try to view a column chart in stacked view
with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display
them - there's always a gap to 100%
bug or feature?
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RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view

2005-03-31 Thread Ely Greenfield



Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked
chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the
way up to the top of the chart?  Are any of the values negative?

Thanks.
Ely.
 

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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
Importance: High


hi there,
when i try to view a column chart in stacked view
with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display
them - there's always a gap to 100%
bug or feature?
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Darron J. Schall

Jeff Steiner wrote:

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, 
  

As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..

The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue.  In 
fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:

* Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target 
audience.  See the penetration stats:  
http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
  
-- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better 
chance of being viewed

* There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will play a 
v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster 
than the v5 player.

* The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code 
publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - 
there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In fact, 
you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  There's 
nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few 
tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that 
new player.

When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal 
API calls of Flash Player 7?  If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I 
know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I 
use them and get a *working* .swf file.  As long as it works, that's all 
I care about.  If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool.

Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps?  Not 
really.  Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case 
sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context 
menu, etc,.  The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and 
that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an 
application needs video in it.  FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like 
ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be 
benefitical.  FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 
(.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my 
Lazslo markup.  The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding 
easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own 
coding model.

The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the 
SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit.  There's really no reason 
to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5.  
The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another 
benefit as well..  If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues 
or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since 
the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process 
handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can 
understand.

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RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view

2005-03-31 Thread christoph larch

noep, all are positive...

0.60
75.20
10.11
and so on
the first value will not be displayed...

At 18:57 31.03.2005, you wrote:



Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked
chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the
way up to the top of the chart?  Are any of the values negative?

Thanks.
Ely.


-Original Message-
From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
Importance: High


hi there,
when i try to view a column chart in stacked view
with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display
them - there's always a gap to 100%
bug or feature?
thx, chris

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RE: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view

2005-03-31 Thread Ely Greenfield




Hmmmyeah, sounds like a bug :(

If the problem is really related to the first value being less than 1, you
could try Multiplying all your values by 10.  Since the vertical axis goes
from 0-100%, it should have no effect on the labels. It _would_ have an
effect on the datatips, but you could write a custom datatip function to get
around that.

Ely.


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noep, all are positive...

0.60
75.20
10.11
and so on
the first value will not be displayed...

At 18:57 31.03.2005, you wrote:



Hi Chris...let me see if I can clarify the issue. You have a 100% stacked
chart with values between 0 and 1, and it's not correctly rendering all the
way up to the top of the chart?  Are any of the values negative?

Thanks.
Ely.


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Subject: [flexcoders] charts / stacked view
Importance: High


hi there,
when i try to view a column chart in stacked view
with values smaller than 1 flex isn't able to display
them - there's always a gap to 100%
bug or feature?
thx, chris

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Matthew Shirey

What about a 2cpu license?  Please answer.  Your 'starter kit' is
overkill for us.  If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
this is no longer a joke at all.  We will have to drop Flex and never
look back.  We will have wasted months of training and actual
development time.  This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.

We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time.  We're a very
small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care
about the little guy at all anymore.

-- Matthew


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jeff Steiner wrote:
 
 Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
 wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
 people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
 capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
 knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
 available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
 it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
 developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
 Flash, 
 
 
 As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..
 
 The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue.  In
 fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:
 
 * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target
 audience.  See the penetration stats:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
 -- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better
 chance of being viewed
 
 * There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will play a
 v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster
 than the v5 player.
 
 * The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code
 publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way -
 there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In fact,
 you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  There's
 nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few
 tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that
 new player.
 
 When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal
 API calls of Flash Player 7?  If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I
 know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I
 use them and get a *working* .swf file.  As long as it works, that's all
 I care about.  If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool.
 
 Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps?  Not
 really.  Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case
 sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context
 menu, etc,.  The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and
 that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an
 application needs video in it.  FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like
 ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be
 benefitical.  FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5
 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my
 Lazslo markup.  The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding
 easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own
 coding model.
 
 The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the
 SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit.  There's really no reason
 to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5.
 The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another
 benefit as well..  If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues
 or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since
 the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process
 handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can
 understand.
 
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[flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR
Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues()
fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method


Thanks!
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Description: Binary data


[flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels

2005-03-31 Thread Brett Hitzel


Hello Everyone,

We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of Panels, 
to no avail. I 
have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I am not 
sure that I am 
doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included stylesheet, 
and in that class 
i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does effect 
it in some way 
because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded. I have 
tried 
various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real effect.

Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas?

Thanks!
-Brett





 
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RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Elmore
Title: Message





The 
way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires 
eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. 
Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using 
the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers 
thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error.

One 
approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its 
methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. 

For 
example (in code babble).

MyMainView.mxml

mx:script
 public activeChild : MovieClip = null;

 function parentHandleMethod(evt)
 {
 // store current child view to 
local var
 
activeChild = 
evt.target'

// do server 
call

 }
/ms:script

mx:repeater
 me:mychildView 
 

/mx:repeater
...

MyChildView.mxml

mx:Metadata
 [Event("onCustomEvent1")]
 
[Event("onCustomEvent2")]
/mx:Metadata


mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', 
otherAttributes=''})"


In 
this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself 
(communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 
'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to 
get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the 
target in which the event was dispatch from.

This 
is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more 
correct then this approach.

Ben



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Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 
PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] 
Cairngorm Question.

  Anyone?
  
  Omar Ramos
  Itacon Corporation
  Technology Manager
  
  
  From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
  Question.
  
  Hi 
  all,
  
  I am using the 
  Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper 
  technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component 
  and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 
  5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 
  reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated.
  
  
  
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RE: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels

2005-03-31 Thread Lin Lin

Brett,
This seams to work for me. Can you try and let me know if it works for
you?

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml;
!-- To use stylesheet: --
 mx:Style source=myStyleSheet.css/ 
mx:Panel  styleName=myclass  title=Panel header  width=300
height=300/mx:Panel

/mx:Application



myStyleSheet.css:
.myclass { headerColors:#FF,#FF ;
textAlign:center}


-lin

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From: Brett Hitzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:36 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels



Hello Everyone,

We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of
Panels, to no avail. I 
have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I
am not sure that I am 
doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included
stylesheet, and in that class 
i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does
effect it in some way 
because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded.
I have tried 
various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real
effect.

Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas?

Thanks!
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RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Hi Hari,


I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before
setting fnameArray array...

See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. 

function setValues()
{

-- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
---



total = scheduleList_do.length;
schedule = scheduleList_do[index];  
reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid;
schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid;
status.text = schedule.schedule_status;
analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id;
reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id;
receivedon.text = schedule.received_date;
schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name;
continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name;
attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name;
fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text;
fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text;
fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text;
Alert.show(schedulefname.text+  +continuationfname.text+
+attachmentfname.text,file names);

receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);


}



-abdul


-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues()
fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method


Thanks!
Hari



 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Gordon Smith

 I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the
public.

I'm on the Flex team, not the Flash team, but I think all the Flash
ActionScript APIs are documented.

In addition to Macromedia documentation, aren't there plenty of Flash books,
ActionScript dictionaries, etc.? For example, ActionScript, The Definitive
Guide by Colin Moock seems comprehensive. If there are missing Player APIs
in that book, I think they're an oversight, not an intentional secret.

- Gordon

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:26 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price



My guess is that you will be back.

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, 

This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing
their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they hold all
the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that
they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
their company's future to flash).

I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they
want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
world to see what they missed.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com



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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying
'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do
with Flex even though we have purchased it.

 Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

 -- Original message -- 

 Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users
to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.

 I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex
and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out
to be.








 From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

 Lucian,

 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
 than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.

 It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!

 Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we
are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so
we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.

 It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
considered expensive by many potential users...

 I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come
back with special discounts, etc.

 Regards,
 Valy

 Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first
Flex
 application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big
 or industrial strength, more than four is required. But this should apply
to
 the small and medium business and be good for those proof of concept
 projects.

 Lucian

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 From: Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:18 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 4CPU? Why on 

RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR

Thanks for the response I did try with statement 
receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it
work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code.



Thanks!
Hari

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From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Hi Hari,


I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before
setting fnameArray array...

See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. 

function setValues()
{

-- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
---



total = scheduleList_do.length;
schedule = scheduleList_do[index];  
reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid;
schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid;
status.text = schedule.schedule_status;
analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id;
reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id;
receivedon.text = schedule.received_date;
schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name;
continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name;
attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name;
fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text;
fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text;
fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text;
Alert.show(schedulefname.text+  +continuationfname.text+
+attachmentfname.text,file names);

receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);


}



-abdul


-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues()
fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method


Thanks!
Hari



 
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RE: [flexcoders] output String from WebService

2005-03-31 Thread Tracy Spratt

Using resultFormat=xml, you do not need to use createXML, the result
is already an XML document.

You can use trace(result.toString()) to see the xmp string.

Tracy

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From: Steiner, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] output String from WebService


 Yes.  I trigger the web service and I put the result like this:

mx:operation name=AddUser resultFormat=xml
result=postResult(event)

In this function is where I have been trying everything.

function postResult(event) {
xmlResult =
mx.utils.XMLUtil.createXML(event.result);

resultText.text =
mx.utils.ArrayUtil.toArray(registration.addUser.result);
}

I know that I am just overlooking something - just can't figure it out.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:24 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] output String from WebService


silly questions, but did you trigger the web service?

At 03:08 PM 3/30/2005, you wrote:
I am seeing an issue that I know has a simple answer - I just keep 
getting undefined as a result.

I have a WebService call to a CFC that returns a String.  Simple so
far?

My result is undefined no matter what I try, when I output it.

Any ideas?

Jeff

cffunction name=AddUser access=remote returnType=string
output=false
 cfset this.success = 'You account has been successfully  created.

You may now Login.'
 cfreturn this.success /
/cffunction
mx:WebService id=registration wsdl=authenticationModule2.cfc?WSDL 
showBusyCursor=true
   mx:operation name=AddUser  /
/mx:WebService



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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Gordon Smith

I'm confused. Are you saying I'm a Bad Guy? All I did was point out that I
think everything you need to program the Flash Player from either a Flex app
or a Laszlo app is documented. This might make my manager mad, but I don't
understand why it would make you mad.

- Gordon


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Merryfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:35 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price



Here come the Black Helicopters.

:)



-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 19:31
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price



 I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the
public.

I'm on the Flex team, not the Flash team, but I think all the Flash
ActionScript APIs are documented.

In addition to Macromedia documentation, aren't there plenty of Flash books,
ActionScript dictionaries, etc.? For example, ActionScript, The Definitive
Guide by Colin Moock seems comprehensive. If there are missing Player APIs
in that book, I think they're an oversight, not an intentional secret.

- Gordon

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:26 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price



My guess is that you will be back.

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, 

This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing
their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they hold all
the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that
they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
their company's future to flash).

I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they
want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
world to see what they missed.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com



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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


 We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying
'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do
with Flex even though we have purchased it.

 Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

 -- Original message -- 

 Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users
to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.

 I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex
and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out
to be.








 From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

 Lucian,

 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
 than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support.

 It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!

 Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we
are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so
we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.

 It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
considered expensive by many potential users...

 

RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

To Matthew below, certainly this is not a joke. But where you have been
working on something great, lets talk. I'll contact you off line.

On Laszlo, I am not going to start a whole Flex vs Laszlo discussion here,
but suffice it to say that there are a lot of benefits for Flash Player 7
*if* you take advantage of them. Simply compiling a Flash Player 5
application for Flash Player 7 won't help a lot. There are values in
accessibility, remote object binary protocols, performance optimizations,
and dozens more, that all require lots of changes to leverage the new
capabilities in Flash Player 7. We have most certainly done those all and
many more in Flex 1.5.

Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists
on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. You may
have seen that in December, we had over 200 customers. As a public company
in the US, we are not allowed to give you specific updates, but suffice it
to say that we are very excited about the success we are seeing and that has
just encouraged us to adjust pricing and commitment in line with that
success.

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:17 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


What about a 2cpu license?  Please answer.  Your 'starter kit' is
overkill for us.  If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
this is no longer a joke at all.  We will have to drop Flex and never
look back.  We will have wasted months of training and actual
development time.  This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.

We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time.  We're a very
small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care
about the little guy at all anymore.

-- Matthew


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jeff Steiner wrote:
 
 Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have
to
 wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
 people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
 capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
 knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
 available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more
complicated
 it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
 developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze,
and
 Flash, 
 
 
 As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..
 
 The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue.  In
 fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:
 
 * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target
 audience.  See the penetration stats:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetra
tion.html
 -- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better
 chance of being viewed
 
 * There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will play a
 v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster
 than the v5 player.
 
 * The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code
 publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way -
 there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In fact,
 you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  There's
 nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few
 tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that
 new player.
 
 When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal
 API calls of Flash Player 7?  If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I
 know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I
 use them and get a *working* .swf file.  As long as it works, that's all
 I care about.  If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool.
 
 Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps?  Not
 really.  Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case
 sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context
 menu, etc,.  The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and
 that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an
 application needs video in it.  FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like
 ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be
 benefitical.  FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5
 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my
 Lazslo markup.  The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding
 easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own
 coding model.
 
 The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the
 SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit.  There's really no reason
 to use SWF7 if everything you 

[flexcoders] Re: Centering Titles in Panels

2005-03-31 Thread Brett Hitzel


Worked perfectly! Thanks!

-Brett

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 Brett,
 This seams to work for me. Can you try and let me know if it works for
 you?
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml;
 !-- To use stylesheet: --
  mx:Style source=myStyleSheet.css/ 
 mx:Panel  styleName=myclass  title=Panel header  width=300
 height=300/mx:Panel
 
 /mx:Application
 
 
 
 myStyleSheet.css:
 .myclass { headerColors:#FF,#FF ;
 textAlign:center}
 
 
 -lin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Hitzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:36 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Centering Titles in Panels
 
 
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are trying to center the text that appears in the title sections of
 Panels, to no avail. I 
 have tried utilizing the 'titleStyleDeclaration' style property, but I
 am not sure that I am 
 doing it right. I referenced a CSS class that was in my included
 stylesheet, and in that class 
 i specified 'text-align:center' and that did not work, however, it does
 effect it in some way 
 because when I do that the text in the panel header is no longer bolded.
 I have tried 
 various styles within the my CSS class and none have had any real
 effect.
 
 Anyone out there tried this before or have any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 -Brett
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup)

2005-03-31 Thread Libby Chantel

I am writing a Flex proof of concept app that accesses
existing Java programs on the back end. When we did
our Flash app, the developers wrote the flash code on
their local machines and when testing made their calls
to the remote java server without deploying any flash
code.

I am having trouble getting this scenario setup with
Flex. Does anyone know how to set this up so that it
is possible (mxml files on local pc, remainder of Flex
on remote Java Server)?

Thanks,
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RE: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects

2005-03-31 Thread Jason Szeto

 Mike,

Add 

listener.onEffectEnd(this);

to the end of your playEffect function. This will tell the Sequence effect
that the effect is finished playing. The Sequence effect sets itself as the
listener of each of its child effects. 

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Mike Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:01 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects



Hi Folks,

Does anyone know why the following custom effect class which I am trying to
use to call various functions in an effect sequence would cause the sequence
to halt after running the called function.

Thanks Mike.

import mx.effects.Effect;

class com.webqem.flex.effects.CallFunctionEffect extends Effect {

private var obj:Object;
private var func:String;
private var args:Array;

function CallFunctionEffect(obj:Object, func:String) {
this.obj = obj;
this.func = func;
arguments.shift();
arguments.shift();
this.args = arguments;
}

public function playEffect():Void { 
if (obj != null  func != null) {
obj[func].apply(obj, args);
}   
}

public function getAffectedProperties():Array {
return new Array();
}
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RE: [flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup)

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Elmore

This is possible and mirrors one of the environments I had to use in the
past.

In the mx:RemoteObject tag there is an attribute called 'endpoint' where
you can point your mxml remote object calls to. Find the server name where
flex is running and do 'servername:port\amfgateway' for java or the servlet
mapping to flash remoting.

If you are going to use the Flex server to call you java classes make sure
the classes are available to the Flex server and that you have the whitelist
configured correctly.

-Original Message-
From: Libby Chantel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Proof of Concept - (help with Flex Setup)



I am writing a Flex proof of concept app that accesses
existing Java programs on the back end. When we did
our Flash app, the developers wrote the flash code on
their local machines and when testing made their calls
to the remote java server without deploying any flash
code.

I am having trouble getting this scenario setup with
Flex. Does anyone know how to set this up so that it
is possible (mxml files on local pc, remainder of Flex
on remote Java Server)?

Thanks,
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RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

So your problem fixed or you still having it?

-abdul 

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From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Thanks for the response I did try with statement 
receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it
work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code.



Thanks!
Hari

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From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Hi Hari,


I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before
setting fnameArray array...

See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. 

function setValues()
{

-- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
---



total = scheduleList_do.length;
schedule = scheduleList_do[index];  
reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid;
schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid;
status.text = schedule.schedule_status;
analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id;
reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id;
receivedon.text = schedule.received_date;
schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name;
continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name;
attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name;
fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text;
fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text;
fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text;
Alert.show(schedulefname.text+  +continuationfname.text+
+attachmentfname.text,file names);

receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);


}



-abdul


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From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues()
fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method


Thanks!
Hari



 
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RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR

Still have it. I tried diff ways but no success. I forgot to comment this
one. 

Thanks!
Hari

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:35 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


So your problem fixed or you still having it?

-abdul 

-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Thanks for the response I did try with statement 
receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it
work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code.



Thanks!
Hari

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Hi Hari,


I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before
setting fnameArray array...

See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. 

function setValues()
{

-- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
---



total = scheduleList_do.length;
schedule = scheduleList_do[index];  
reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid;
schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid;
status.text = schedule.schedule_status;
analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id;
reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id;
receivedon.text = schedule.received_date;
schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name;
continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name;
attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name;
fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text;
fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text;
fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text;
Alert.show(schedulefname.text+  +continuationfname.text+
+attachmentfname.text,file names);

receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);


}



-abdul


-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here is RemoteObject method syntax from my mxml

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=scheduleList_do=event.result;setValues()
fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method


Thanks!
Hari



 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Pushkar Phatak

damn.
either this is too good for an april fools joke, 
or as russel peters said, 
somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad 
:)
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Matthew Shirey

As I already said this is no joke to me or my department.

-- Matthew

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 damn.
 either this is too good for an april fools joke,
 or as russel peters said,
 somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad
 :)
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread jacksodj


I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have 
never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to 
say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a 
price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is 
only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).

I am trying to remember the first price I payed for Codl Fusion 
Proffesisonal Server.. $199 or $349 I guess I could look it up 
online at archive.org, but my point is, there is nothing you can buy 
at that price now. and you can see the decline in monster postings, 
and books on the topic that have matched the incline in price.

I told people that the price increase was what our sales rep was 
telling us. we got our order in under the wire.

Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer 
customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like 
a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on 
the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it 
is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.

In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base 
of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building 
a 6 month training process into the hire.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To Matthew below, certainly this is not a joke. But where you have 
been
 working on something great, lets talk. I'll contact you off line.
 
 On Laszlo, I am not going to start a whole Flex vs Laszlo 
discussion here,
 but suffice it to say that there are a lot of benefits for Flash 
Player 7
 *if* you take advantage of them. Simply compiling a Flash Player 5
 application for Flash Player 7 won't help a lot. There are values 
in
 accessibility, remote object binary protocols, performance 
optimizations,
 and dozens more, that all require lots of changes to leverage the 
new
 capabilities in Flash Player 7. We have most certainly done those 
all and
 many more in Flex 1.5.
 
 Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The 
economists
 on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers. 
You may
 have seen that in December, we had over 200 customers. As a public 
company
 in the US, we are not allowed to give you specific updates, but 
suffice it
 to say that we are very excited about the success we are seeing 
and that has
 just encouraged us to adjust pricing and commitment in line with 
that
 success.
 
 Lucian 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:17 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
 
 What about a 2cpu license?  Please answer.  Your 'starter kit' is
 overkill for us.  If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, 
then
 this is no longer a joke at all.  We will have to drop Flex and 
never
 look back.  We will have wasted months of training and actual
 development time.  This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.
 
 We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time.  We're a 
very
 small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care
 about the little guy at all anymore.
 
 -- Matthew
 
 
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Jeff Steiner wrote:
  
  Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash 
player 5
  (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things 
where you have
 to
  wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash 
Player.  The
  people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to 
extend the
  capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in 
their
  knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made 
readily
  available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more
 complicated
  it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to 
give
  developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and 
Breeze,
 and
  Flash, 
  
  
  As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..
  
  The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an 
issue.  In
  fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:
  
  * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget 
target
  audience.  See the penetration stats:
 
 
http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_
penetra
 tion.html
  -- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a 
better
  chance of being viewed
  
  * There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will 
play a
  v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself 
is faster
  than the v5 player.
  
  * The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code
  publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any 
way -
  there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In 
fact,
  you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  
There's
  

RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield





My 
clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost 
more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the 
spec.

Now 
that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients 
are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need 
to renew their maintenance license?
Or 
will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or 
does it mean processors?)

Simon


  -Original Message-From: Matthew Shirey 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 
  priceWhat about a 2cpu license? Please 
  answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is 
  based on a minimum 4cpu price, thenthis is no longer a joke at all. 
  We will have to drop Flex and neverlook back. We will have wasted 
  months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I 
  can justify to anyone.We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at 
  this time. We're a verysmall shop and its starting to look like 
  Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all anymore.-- 
  MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. 
  Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Jeff Steiner 
  wrote:  Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still 
  based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It 
  is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo 
  know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are 
  contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities 
  as far as they can, but they are still limited in their 
  knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made 
  readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player 
  gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks 
  into the player to give developers the same functionality that is 
  provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash,  
As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in 
  here..  The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really 
  isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's 
  why:  * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a 
  larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html 
  -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a 
  better chance of being viewed  * There are no "older 
  is slower" arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster 
  than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 
  player.  * The internals are abstracted away. Right now 
  your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash 
  Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your 
  lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write 
  in _javascript_. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a 
  new "player" and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process 
  you could have output for that new player.  When you 
  develop an application, do you really care about the internal API 
  calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I 
  know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I 
  use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's 
  all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then 
  that's cool.  Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit 
  Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in 
  FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions 
  (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change 
  would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for 
  some.. but it's rare that an "application" needs video in it. FP 
  6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how 
  upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also 
  added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - 
  but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 
  style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo 
  doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. 
   The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of 
  the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really 
  no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished 
  in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player 
  is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, 
  maybe legal issues or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java 
  applets or whatever, since the code is all abstracted from the VM and 
  the compilation process handles the dirty work of putting your code 
  into a format the VM can understand.  -d 
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[flexcoders] Databinding to webservice strangeness...

2005-03-31 Thread jacksodj


I dont see where one of our developers posted this, but we have an 
extra bizzare error we are encountering when we databind text boxes 
to webservice arguments that call a remote CFC method.

since only 25% of you according to the poll use CF for the data 
layer, the background that is helpful is that the CFC web services 
require all parameteres to be passed or you get an error.

these are the use cases we tested and the results.

you leave the parameter blank ie wsargument/wsargument.. Flex 
submits a soap call with the field.

you bind the parameter to a textbox 
wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and DONT enter anything... 
flex omits the field and the call fails with a required argument not 
passed.

you bind the parameter to a textbox 
wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and enter anything... Flex 
submits a soap call with the field.

you bind the parameter to a textbox 
wsargumenttextbox.text/wsargument and enter anything, then 
delete what you typed... Flex submits a soap call with the field.

then it gets wierder... to get around the undefined, not submitting 
issue we tried to do a conditional assignment..
ie..
   wsargument{textbox.text == undefined ? `': textbox.text}
/wsargument

now when we leave the box alone and submit, the value is undefined 
and the argument is set to '', which does not get sent in the SOAP 
call.

however..
   wsargument{textbox.text == undefined ? `ANYTHING': textbox.text}
/wsargument

do the same thing, leave the box untouched and submit, NOW the field 
IS DEFINED, and the value is set to it presumably an empty string 
and not a null. and the SOAP call now includes the field in the 
arugments list.

EXTRA WEIRD.. Does this sound like a bug to everyone else too?

Also Kudos to Rick Law and Jason Doyle for working all of this out.





 
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[flexcoders] PrintJob()

2005-03-31 Thread Rich Tretola

I am trying to print an mlmx file at the same level as the one calling
the printjob.  Here is my code:
public function testPrintJob():Void {
var printJob:PrintJob = new PrintJob();
var help:Help = new Help();
mx.core.Application.alert(testProperty : + help.testProperty);
printJob.start();
printJob.addPage(0);
printJob.addPage(help);
printJob.send();
delete printJob;
}

Help.mxml is the object being created in the 2nd lineof the method and
it is being created correctly as I can read the properties of the file
through an alert on the next line, bit I am only getting the 1st page
which is using 0 as the object path (_root).  I have tried using help
with and without the quotes and can never get it added as a page. 
Anyone have any ideas ?

Rich


 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe










Maintenance will be calculated based on
the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think thats
pretty consistent with other software industry norms.



Ill make you the same offer, Simon.
Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to
make this work out.



Lucian 











From: Simon Fifield
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005
11:49 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price







My clients have also stretched themselves
to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor
server they purchased to match the spec.











Now that the license for Flex is either 1
or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double
the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license?





Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole
server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?)











Simon











-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price

What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter
kit' is
overkill for us. If our price is based on a
minimum 4cpu price, then
this is no longer a joke at all. We will
have to drop Flex and never
look back. We will have wasted months of
training and actual
development time. This is NOT a price I can
justify to anyone.

We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this
time. We're a very
small shop and its starting to look like
Macromedia does not care
about the little guy at all anymore.

-- Matthew


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J.
Schall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jeff Steiner wrote:
 
 Lazslo, while the samples look great, is
still based upon Flash player 5
 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It
is one of those things where you have to
 wonder - how does Lazslo know what to
extend of the Flash Player. The
 people that are contributing to it make
guesses and try to extend the
 capabilities as far as they can, but they
are still limited in their
 knowledge. I have never seen an API
to the Flash player made readily
 available to the public. Also - as
the Flash Player gets more complicated
 it will become more difficult to code
hooks into the player to give
 developers the same functionality that is
provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
 Flash, 
 
 
 As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in
here..
 
 The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5
really isn't an issue. In
 fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why:
 
 * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5,
it has a larget target
 audience. See the penetration stats:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
 -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps
created in Laszlo have a better
 chance of being viewed
 
 * There are no older is slower
arguments. The v7 player will play a
 v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the
v7 player itself is faster
 than the v5 player.
 
 * The internals are abstracted away.
Right now your Lazslo code
 publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the
Flash Player in any way -
 there are no MovieClip references, etc in
your lazslo code. In fact,
 you don't even use ActionScript, you write in
_javascript_. There's
 nothing to stop someone from writing a new
player and with a few
 tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you
could have output for that
 new player.
 
 When you develop an application, do you
really care about the internal
 API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a
Lazslo developer, I say no.. I
 know what tags I can use in my markup, I know
what the APIs are, and I
 use them and get a *working* .swf file.
As long as it works, that's all
 I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes
to make it work, then that's cool.
 
 Is there anything in v7 SWF that would
benefit Lazslo apps? Not
 really. Some of the new things added in
FP 7 over FP 6 is case
 sensitivty, depth management functions
(getNextHighestDepth..) , context
 menu, etc,. The biggest change would
probably be embedded video, and
 that may be a show stopper for some.. but
it's rare that an
 application needs video in
it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like
 ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to
v6 in that respect would be
 benefitical. FP 6 also added different
event handlers than FP5
 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0
effect on how I code my
 Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers
are meant to make AS coding
 easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that
because it has it's own
 coding model.
 
 The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it
does on an old version of the
 SWF format is not a drawback, it's a
benefit. There's really no reason
 to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can
be accomplished in SWF5.
 The fact that Lazslo separates itself from
the Flash Player is another
 benefit as well.. If something should
ever happen, maybe legal 

RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

2005-03-31 Thread Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR

Hi Abdul,
I am very sure that data is came back as an Array because I am able to set
and see data on my screen and also I have showPrev() and showNext() method
to navigate thru the array and I am seeing the data changing. Do you want me
to send the mxml files? But only problem will be I am prototyping will work
correctly if you have two monitors hooked up to you system.

Thanks!
Hari

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:54 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Ok,

Try to trace the value of total in setValues(..) function...

Or try to find, event.result is an array or not, you can do it like this:

mx:method name=getSchedules
result=if(event.result instanceof Array) {
alert(String(event.result.length)) } else { alert('event.result is not an
Array')}; scheduleList_do=event.result; setValues()

fault=mx.controls.Alert.show(event.fault.faultstring, 'Remote Call
Error')
mx:arguments
arg14/arg1  
/mx:arguments
/mx:method

It should show you an alert showing either array's length or a message
saying event.result is not an array...


Let us know, what do you see?

-abdul



 

-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:09 AM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Still have it. I tried diff ways but no success. I forgot to comment this
one. 

Thanks!
Hari

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:35 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


So your problem fixed or you still having it?

-abdul 

-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:07 AM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Thanks for the response I did try with statement 
receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
at the end of setvalues() function. I was trying different ideas to make it
work and that is one of it. I do apologies for not correcting my tried code.



Thanks!
Hari

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:28 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?


Hi Hari,


I see your calling(sending values) reciever_lc.send(...) method before
setting fnameArray array...

See the first line of setValues() function, Remove it and then try. 

function setValues()
{

-- receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);
---



total = scheduleList_do.length;
schedule = scheduleList_do[index];  
reportersid.text = schedule.reporter_sid;
schedulesid.text = schedule.schedule_sid;
status.text = schedule.schedule_status;
analystid.text = schedule.analyst_id;
reviewerid.text = schedule.reviewer_id;
receivedon.text = schedule.received_date;
schedulefname.text = schedule.schedule_file_name;
continuationfname.text = schedule.continuation_file_name;
attachmentfname.text = schedule.attachment_file_name;
fnameArray[0] = schedulefname.text;
fnameArray[1] = continuationfname.text;
fnameArray[2] = attachmentfname.text;
Alert.show(schedulefname.text+  +continuationfname.text+
+attachmentfname.text,file names);

receiver_lc.send(scheduleViewer, rec_setFileName, fnameArray);


}



-abdul


-Original Message-
From: Doodi, Hari - BLS CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:02 PM
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [flexcoders] making synchronous method calls ?

Hi,
I have a situation where in I have to make function call in sequence
(synchronous method calls). I am getting image file names along with product
information by making RemoteObject call. I am making a function call on
result event. Inside that function I am setting individual data to
corresponding textinputs and then at the end I am constructing an array to
hold image file names ( more than one value). After creating the array I
have to pass this array as an argument to a function call which passes the
array to other browser window already opened.

What I found was the method is called before completion of data setting,
means array is blank and the image browser window is not displaying any
images. If I hard code values in array then I can see images on the image
browser window. Please help me out in How to make synchronous method calls
in flex? In the following file you can see I tried different way but no
successes.

 ScheduleProcessor.as 
Here 

RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.

2005-03-31 Thread Omar Ramos
Title: Message





Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what was 
the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so far.

Omar Ramos
Itacon Corporation
Technology Manager


From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
Question.

The 
way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires 
eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique name. 
Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater and using 
the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers 
thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error.

One 
approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its 
methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. 

For 
example (in code babble).

MyMainView.mxml

mx:script
 public activeChild : MovieClip = null;

 function parentHandleMethod(evt)
 {
 // store current child view to 
local var
 
activeChild = 
evt.target'

// do server 
call

 }
/ms:script

mx:repeater
 me:mychildView 
 

/mx:repeater
...

MyChildView.mxml

mx:Metadata
 [Event("onCustomEvent1")]
 
[Event("onCustomEvent2")]
/mx:Metadata


mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', 
otherAttributes=''})"


In 
this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself 
(communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 
'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views to 
get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the 
target in which the event was dispatch from.

This 
is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or more 
correct then this approach.

Ben



-Original Message-From: Omar 
Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 
PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] 
Cairngorm Question.

  Anyone?
  
  Omar Ramos
  Itacon Corporation
  Technology Manager
  
  
  From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
  Question.
  
  Hi 
  all,
  
  I am using the 
  Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper 
  technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component 
  and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater and 
  5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of those 5 
  reference will it give me? Any help would be apreaciated.
  
  
  
  Omar 
  Ramos
  Itacon 
  Corporation
  Technology 
  Manager







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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Matthew Shirey

I am more than a little frustrated about this... why don't we discuss
it right here publically?

Why is there a pricing scheme that is private interview based?

I just want to know:

Is there a 1CPU price? If so, what is it?
Is there a 2CPU price? If so, what is it?

These are not difficult questions.  If there are no purchasing options
available that are smaller than this 'starter kit'.  Please just say
so.  As I already said in my private email.  I need to know the answer
to these questions.  I have a lot of damage control to attend to.

-- Matthew


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:16:43 -0800, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you
 go that route. . I think that's pretty consistent with other software
 industry norms.
 
  
 
 I'll make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects
 running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out.
 
  
 
 Lucian 
 
  
 
 
 
 From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
  
 
 
 My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license,
 which cost more than the Dual Processor server they purchased to match the
 spec. 
 
 
  
 
 
 Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my
 clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price
 when they need to renew their maintenance license?
 
 
 Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server
 or does it mean processors?)
 
 
  
 
 
 Simon
 
 
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
 What about a 2cpu license?  Please answer.  Your 'starter kit' is
 overkill for us.  If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
 this is no longer a joke at all.  We will have to drop Flex and never
 look back.  We will have wasted months of training and actual
 development time.  This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.
 
 We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time.  We're a very
 small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care
 about the little guy at all anymore.
 
 -- Matthew
 
 
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Jeff Steiner wrote:
  
  Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
  (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have
 to
  wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
  people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
  capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
  knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
  available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more
 complicated
  it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
  developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze,
 and
  Flash, 
  
  
  As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..
  
  The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue.  In
  fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:
  
  * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target
  audience.  See the penetration stats:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
  -- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better
  chance of being viewed
  
  * There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will play a
  v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster
  than the v5 player.
  
  * The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code
  publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way -
  there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In fact,
  you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  There's
  nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few
  tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that
  new player.
  
  When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal
  API calls of Flash Player 7?  If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I
  know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I
  use them and get a *working* .swf file.  As long as it works, that's all
  I care about.  If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool.
  
  Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps?  Not
  really.  Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case
  sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context
  menu, etc,.  The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and
  that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that 

[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread mlaudrup1987


In case you don't find your company listed on NYSE then forget about 
Flex :)) It's sad, but true... Flex was successfully adopted by big 
financial companies and MM feels that can push the price a little bit 
higher to increase their  revenue... and unfortunately make it more 
prohibitive for small-medium shops.

The weird thing is that we tend to overlook the serious 
problems/limitations this product has. I've seen dozens of issues 
peoples had with this product some of them really put me in 
perspective... Keep in mind that not all the apps are datagrids, 
flash animations, etc... and the lack of  multilingual support, very 
limited charting engine,  memory issues are only a few of the things 
that people should consider before buying this product or being so 
excited about it

In fact is just a presentation layer that stays on top of your 
application... Flex is not a standalone product, we still need an 
application servers, database, etc.. and the cost adds up... I don't 
want this product for free but the way MM treated us disrespectfully  
makes me sick... 

Another drawback is the complexity that has been added to development 
cycle. All of the sudden, we are talking about controllers, views, 
commands, value objects, data type mapping... on the presentation 
side... It's a lot of redundancy and in my view that should make this 
product less desirable

Yes, Flex is nice, nice features for flashy  projects but is too 
early to say it's a reliable tool for production, because too few 
people really deployed or used the application in prod for a decent 
period of time... Have you ever find a log when the browser crashes? 
or when the loader is taking so long to render a page...

It's premature to say that Flex will be a successand I really do 
want so... but in the same proportion those project might fail 
miserably regarding their stability MM products scalability it 
something I wouldn't rely too much

In conclusion, I think this is a list for people who really have 
technical difficulties and need help and less for IT managers that 
would want to buy... In fact is MM business how they'll manage to 
sell Flex and convince IT architects that this is a valid option.

I'm less concern about MM revenue numbers, just concern on the impact 
the prices might have on my clients.

Regards,
Michael

PS: DO NOT intend to contact MM people off list for favors... 





 
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RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Elmore
Title: Message





Well. 
My thought is 'Who would know what child needed the work done?' The view 
locator's need to have the view helper name be unique is so that it can locate 
the view. A command has to be 100% sure what view towork with to get the 
data to properly make the call out to the server. Therefore my thought is that 
the safer bet would be to have the command talk to the parent to either a) get 
the data or b) get the name of the child.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts to why I would approach the situation 
the way I outlined. My judgment of clean has a lot to do with the ability to 
maintain the application and as much as possible keeping the interdepancy 
between my view files as possible. Loose coupling.

Ben



-Original Message-From: Omar 
Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:18 
PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] 
Cairngorm Question.

  Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what 
  was the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so far.
  
  Omar Ramos
  Itacon Corporation
  Technology Manager
  
  
  From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
  Question.
  
  The 
  way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that itrequires 
  eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator under a unique 
  name. Therefore if you are attaching theview dynamically in a repeater 
  and using the samevalue in the 'name' attributefor the ViewHelpers 
  thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an error.
  
  One 
  approach to your solution is to have the each of your views bubble up its 
  methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. 
  
  For 
  example (in code babble).
  
  MyMainView.mxml
  
  mx:script
   public activeChild : MovieClip = 
null;
  
   function parentHandleMethod(evt)
   {
   // store current child view 
  to local var
   
  activeChild = 
  evt.target'
  
  // do server 
  call
  
   }
  /ms:script
  
  mx:repeater
   me:mychildView 
   
  
  /mx:repeater
  ...
  
  MyChildView.mxml
  
  mx:Metadata
   [Event("onCustomEvent1")]
   
  [Event("onCustomEvent2")]
  /mx:Metadata
  
  
  mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', 
  otherAttributes=''})"
  
  
  In 
  this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself 
  (communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly says 
  'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child views 
  to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps track of the 
  target in which the event was dispatch from.
  
  This 
  is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps better or 
  more correct then this approach.
  
  Ben
  
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Omar 
  Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:53 
  PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
  
Anyone?

Omar Ramos
Itacon Corporation
Technology Manager


From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
Question.

Hi 
all,

I am using the 
Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper 
technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml component 
and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a repeater 
and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method which of 
those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be 
apreaciated.



Omar 
Ramos
Itacon 
Corporation
Technology 
Manager







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RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Elmore
Title: Message





That 
is 'keeping the interdepancy between my view files as few as 
possible'.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ben Elmore 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:07 
  PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
  Well. My thought is 'Who would know what child needed the work done?' 
  The view locator's need to have the view helper name be unique is so that it 
  can locate the view. A command has to be 100% sure what view towork with 
  to get the data to properly make the call out to the server. Therefore my 
  thought is that the safer bet would be to have the command talk to the parent 
  to either a) get the data or b) get the name of the child.
  
  Anyway, those are just my thoughts to why I would approach the 
  situation the way I outlined. My judgment of clean has a lot to do with the 
  ability to maintain the application and as much as possible keeping the 
  interdepancy between my view files as possible. Loose 
  coupling.
  
  Ben
  
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Omar 
  Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:18 
  PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.
  
Yes I had tho of that idea ben. But was wondering what 
was the clean way to do it. Thanks for the reply's so 
far.

Omar Ramos
Itacon Corporation
Technology Manager


From: Ben Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:17 PMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
Question.

The way Cairngorm current architects the ViewHelper is that 
itrequires eachViewHelper to register itself to the ViewLocator 
under a unique name. Therefore if you are attaching theview 
dynamically in a repeater and using the samevalue in the 'name' 
attributefor the ViewHelpers thenthe ViewLoactor will throw an 
error.

One approach to your solution is to have the each of your views 
bubble up its methods to the parent view that the repeater exists in. 


For example (in code babble).

MyMainView.mxml

mx:script
 public activeChild : MovieClip = 
null;

 function 
parentHandleMethod(evt)
 {
 // store current child 
view to local var
 activeChild = 
evt.target'

// do server 
call

 }
/ms:script

mx:repeater
 me:mychildView 
 

/mx:repeater
...

MyChildView.mxml

mx:Metadata
 [Event("onCustomEvent1")]
 
[Event("onCustomEvent2")]
/mx:Metadata


mx:Button click="this.dispatchEvent({type='onCustomEvent1', 
otherAttributes=''})"


In 
this example instead of having the child view handle the logic itself 
(communicating to the server) it tells the parent too. Or more correctly 
says 'someone please do this for me' the parent will know which of the child 
views to get the data from since the dispatch event automatically keeps 
track of the target in which the event was dispatch 
from.

This is just a suggestion. There are other options out there, perhaps 
better or more correct then this approach.

Ben



-Original Message-From: 
Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 
2005 12:53 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Question.

  Anyone?
  
  Omar Ramos
  Itacon Corporation
  Technology Manager
  
  
  From: Omar Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:18 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm 
  Question.
  
  Hi 
  all,
  
  I am using the 
  Cairngorm plataform but had a small question. How can I use the viewhelper 
  technique when I attach view dynamicaly? For example I have a mxml 
  component and put a view helper attached to it and use this component on a 
  repeater and 5 instances are made. When I call the getViewHelper method 
  which of those 5 reference will it give me? Any help would be 
  apreaciated.
  
  
  
  Omar 
  Ramos
  Itacon 
  Corporation
  Technology 
  Manager







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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield





Hi 
Lucian,

I will 
need to speak to my clients ( I can't remember if they purchased the Flex 
License at v1 or v1.5 ).

I'm 
sure that there is an amicable agreement that can be reached - price increases 
are an ongoing problem for everyone around the world but particularly for the 
small to medium whoever/whatever. Although larger companies must be careful to 
count the pennies (therefore looking after the pounds) they are in a much better 
position to find the cash to make larger purchases if it makes sense in the 
bigger picture.

I 
imagine ( and I may be wrong ) that most of us are a little disturbed by not 
being able to see a price on a tag. Hardly anyone in the UK is used to haggling, 
and personally I'm not keen on squeezing as much out of someone as I can. I am 
not the one who authorises purchases, and I imagine that most of us here are in 
the same boat.

It 
just feels very uncomfortable seeing a price tag for a small bag of sweets, a 
price tag for a large bag of sweets, but for medium and jumbo bags you have to 
haggle with the shop keeper. I'm not saying its wrong - I just think that lots 
of developers like me have a hard time having to go back to the people who make 
the purchasing decisions and trying to get them to pay an unknown but 
considerable amount of money for something that they are not sure that they 
want, and we are the ones that have to persuade them that they want 
it.

For my 
part, I sold Flex based on the knowledge that my clients wanted to develop their 
webapps using the Flash Player. My experience of creating webapps in the Flash 
environment was most unpleasant(especially when having to work with 
designers that can't program and aren't at all tidy!) so I pushed the fact that 
the webapps would be developed much much faster using Flex thanwith Flash. 
Yes, there has been a bigger learning curve than I thought, but if I had tried 
to do this using Flash only - well I think that I would be in a hospital room 
with nice padded walls to dampen the sound of my screaming!

I love 
Flex. And I'm gladsomeone else has bought it for me to work 
with.

Kind 
Regards,
Simon 
Fifield


  -Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 
  21:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
  
  Maintenance will be 
  calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I 
  think thats pretty consistent with other software industry 
  norms.
  
  Ill make you the 
  same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly 
  and find a way to make this work out.
  
  Lucian 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Simon 
  Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 
  AMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 
  price
  
  
  My clients have also 
  stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than 
  theDual Processor server they purchased to match the 
  spec.
  
  
  
  Now that the license 
  for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have 
  to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their 
  maintenance license?
  
  Or will the 1 cpu 
  license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean 
  processors?)
  
  
  
  Simon
  
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 
price
What about a 2cpu license? Please 
answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 
4cpu price, thenthis is no 
longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and 
neverlook back. We will 
have wasted months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I can justify 
to anyone.We're seriously 
disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a 
verysmall shop and its starting 
to look like Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all 
anymore.-- 
MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 
2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
 Jeff Steiner 
wrote: 
 Lazslo, while the 
samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 
5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is 
player 6). It is one of those things where you have 
to wonder - how does 
Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. 
The people that are 
contributing to it make guesses and try to extend 
the capabilities as far 
as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the 
Flash player made readily 
available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more 
complicated it will 
become more difficult to code hooks into the player to 
give developers the 
same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, 
and Flash, 
   

[flexcoders] Scrollbars in a VBox

2005-03-31 Thread Matthew Shirey

With all these pricing things up in the air its hard to think about
coding, but I do have a bit of a problem I'm trying to work out.

I have a layout that has multiple nested VBox components with a
repeater on the inside.  For my application this repeater is going to
be repeating a custom component based on a dataProvider.  My problem
is that Flex wants to put the scroll bars on the outer most VBox
instead of the innermost one thats closest to the repeater.  I have
tried many variations of vScrollPolicy settings, but the problem seems
to be somewhere else.  Is there a way other than setting a specific
size for the VBoxes that I can tell the inner most VBox to be the one
that has a scroll bar?  I have included some sample code to show my
problem. In this example the scroll bars are actually going on the
application control.  This is a very simple example that is similar to
the layout in my application and still shows the problem.  I know I
could use a List or a Datagrid with a custom renderer but both have
behaviors I don't want.  I was hoping to just be able to use a
repeater and have scrollbars on the parent vbox.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

-- Matthew


?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml;

mx:Script
![CDATA[
var list:Array = [a, b, c, d, e, f, 
g, h, i, 
j, k, l, 
m, n, o, 
p, q, r, 
s, t, u, 
v, w, x, 
y, z
];
]]
/mx:Script

mx:VBox id=outer width=100% height=100%
backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5
borderColor=#FF
mx:VBox id=middle width=100% height=100%
backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5
borderColor=#FF
!-- Scrollbars Need to be on this VBox \/ \/ \/ --
mx:VBox id=inner width=100% height=100%
backgroundColor=#FF borderStyle=solid borderThickness=5
borderColor=#00FF00
mx:Repeater id=rpList dataProvider={list}
mx:Label text={rpList.currentItem} /
/mx:Repeater
mx:Label text=Item Count: {list.length} /
/mx:VBox
/mx:VBox
/mx:VBox
 
/mx:Application


 
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AW: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Benjamin Dobler










Why no open source Flex?

I mean the swf format is
open. The tools are their. Merging components, creating Actionscript components

It`s all doable and there
is nothing magical about flex. In fact I think that a flex like system is just
the

next logical step for
flash development. All this we need to get the enterprise developers
on board is

just shareholder talk.
Flash developers have for a long time pushed the limits of flash and i`m sure
that

it`s possible to built
something like flex as open source. You would say there is Laszlo but for me 

it`s not an alternative. I
want something compatible to flex and that uses actionscript and that
recognizes my

components built  in flash.
So I want flex for free!

Don`t get me wrong. I
love Flex. It`s a great product but in my opinion there is enough space for an
open source

Project that fits for
smaller (budget wise) projects.



For my final thesis i`m
working on such a project. I have successfully built a Linker/Loader System and
an

MXML parser.  (I will
post about the progression here www.richapps.de
)



I think a real open
source Flex alternative would be great even for Flex itself. It is the only

way to win against the
xaml, xul whatever rivals.



My2Cents



Benz













Von:
Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März
2005 23:15
An: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price







Hi Lucian,











I will need to speak to
my clients ( I can't remember if they purchased the Flex License at v1 or v1.5
).











I'm sure that there is an
amicable agreement that can be reached - price increases are an ongoing problem
for everyone around the world but particularly for the small to medium
whoever/whatever. Although larger companies must be careful to count the
pennies (therefore looking after the pounds) they are in a much better position
to find the cash to make larger purchases if it makes sense in the bigger
picture.











I imagine ( and I may be
wrong ) that most of us are a little disturbed by not being able to see a price
on a tag. Hardly anyone in the UK
is used to haggling, and personally I'm not keen on squeezing as much out of
someone as I can. I am not the one who authorises purchases, and I imagine that
most of us here are in the same boat.











It just feels very
uncomfortable seeing a price tag for a small bag of sweets, a price tag for a
large bag of sweets, but for medium and jumbo bags you have to haggle with the
shop keeper. I'm not saying its wrong - I just think that lots of developers
like me have a hard time having to go back to the people who make the
purchasing decisions and trying to get them to pay an unknown but considerable
amount of money for something that they are not sure that they want, and we are
the ones that have to persuade them that they want it.











For my part, I sold Flex
based on the knowledge that my clients wanted to develop their webapps using
the Flash Player. My experience of creating webapps in the Flash environment
was most unpleasant(especially when having to work with designers that
can't program and aren't at all tidy!) so I pushed the fact that the webapps
would be developed much much faster using Flex thanwith Flash. Yes, there
has been a bigger learning curve than I thought, but if I had tried to do this
using Flash only - well I think that I would be in a hospital room with nice padded
walls to dampen the sound of my screaming!











I love Flex. And I'm
gladsomeone else has bought it for me to work with.











Kind Regards,





Simon Fifield











-Original
Message-
From: Lucian Beebe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 21:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price

Maintenance will be
calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I
think thats pretty consistent with other software industry norms.



Ill make you the same
offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and
find a way to make this work out.



Lucian 











From:
Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005
11:49 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price







My clients have also
stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than
theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec.











Now that the license for
Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to
more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their
maintenance license?





Or will the 1 cpu license
cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?)











Simon











-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Shirey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price

What about a 2cpu
license? 

RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

2005-03-31 Thread Gordon Smith
Title: Message





Is the 
problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a 
label?

- 
Gordon

  
  -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 
  12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: 
  [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
  Hi 
  Flexers,
  
  I've just noticed 
  an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When 
  there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank 
  label.
  
  Does anyone know 
  if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
  (How do I register 
  bugs again?)
  Has anyone a work 
  around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying 
  TextField?
  
  
  Kind Regards,
  
  Simon Fifield
  







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RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield
Title: Message





I 
tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move 
your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there 
checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see 
that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when 
there is no text. 
I 
think that it should.

Simon 
Fifield


  -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 
  00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
  Is 
  the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a 
  label?
  
  - 
  Gordon
  

-Original Message-From: Simon Fifield 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 
2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: 
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Hi 
Flexers,

I've just 
noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. 
When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank 
label.

Does anyone know 
if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
(How do I 
register bugs again?)
Has anyone a 
work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying 
TextField?


Kind Regards,

Simon Fifield








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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

The prices I gave below. They are $15,000 per CPU if you buy per CPU. If you
want to get a package price on more than one CPU, we have the four CPU
bundle called the Quick Start at $29,000. We don't have any 2-CPU pricing. 

Now having said that, where you are working on a Flex application that
requires different deployment options, let us know. We are flexible to work
with you. Please don't mistake us being flexible with wanting to keep the
pricing private. The pricing is clearly stated. If you need something we
don't provide, let us know because we want to work with you.

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:27 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


I am more than a little frustrated about this... why don't we discuss
it right here publically?

Why is there a pricing scheme that is private interview based?

I just want to know:

Is there a 1CPU price? If so, what is it?
Is there a 2CPU price? If so, what is it?

These are not difficult questions.  If there are no purchasing options
available that are smaller than this 'starter kit'.  Please just say
so.  As I already said in my private email.  I need to know the answer
to these questions.  I have a lot of damage control to attend to.

-- Matthew


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:16:43 -0800, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 
 Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if
you
 go that route. . I think that's pretty consistent with other software
 industry norms.
 
  
 
 I'll make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects
 running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out.
 
  
 
 Lucian 
 
  
 
 
 
 From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
  
 
 
 My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license,
 which cost more than the Dual Processor server they purchased to match the
 spec. 
 
 
  
 
 
 Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my
 clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price
 when they need to renew their maintenance license?
 
 
 Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean
server
 or does it mean processors?)
 
 
  
 
 
 Simon
 
 
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
 What about a 2cpu license?  Please answer.  Your 'starter kit' is
 overkill for us.  If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
 this is no longer a joke at all.  We will have to drop Flex and never
 look back.  We will have wasted months of training and actual
 development time.  This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.
 
 We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time.  We're a very
 small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care
 about the little guy at all anymore.
 
 -- Matthew
 
 
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Jeff Steiner wrote:
  
  Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player
5
  (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you
have
 to
  wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
  people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
  capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
  knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
  available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more
 complicated
  it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
  developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze,
 and
  Flash, 
  
  
  As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here..
  
  The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue.  In
  fact, I'd say it's a bonus!  Here's why:
  
  * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target
  audience.  See the penetration stats:
 

http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetra
tion.html
  -- FP 5 is 97%.  FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better
  chance of being viewed
  
  * There are no older is slower arguments.  The v7 player will play a
  v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster
  than the v5 player.
  
  * The internals are abstracted away.  Right now your Lazslo code
  publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way -
  there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.  In fact,
  you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript.  There's
  nothing to stop someone from writing a new player and with a few
  tweaks to the Laszlo 

RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

2005-03-31 Thread Joan Tan
Title: Message





You are right, this is a bug. I believe there is a 
workaround, however. You can have

mx:CheckBox label="" /

instead of just mx:CheckBox 
/

and you shouldn't have that 
problem.

Thanks,
Joan



From: Simon Fifield 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 
3:27 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

I 
tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move 
your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there 
checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see 
that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when 
there is no text. 
I 
think that it should.

Simon 
Fifield


  -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 
  00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
  Is 
  the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a 
  label?
  
  - 
  Gordon
  

-Original Message-From: Simon Fifield 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 
2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: 
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Hi 
Flexers,

I've just 
noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. 
When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank 
label.

Does anyone know 
if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
(How do I 
register bugs again?)
Has anyone a 
work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying 
TextField?


Kind Regards,

Simon Fifield








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RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Hi,
 
It seems to be an issue to meI will verify again and file it if its not
filed already...
 
Problem:
 
Where you have a checkbox without label attribute, checkBox seems to take
some default width and click on right (un)checks Checkbox.
 
mx:CheckBox id=cb1 /
 
 
Workaround:
 
Add label attribute with empty string...
 
mx:CheckBox label= /
 
 
Thanks for bringing up this issue...
 
-abdul



From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:57 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity


I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you
move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight,
clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label
property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it
doesn't get turned off when there is no text. 
I think that it should.
 
Simon Fifield
 

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20
To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity


Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it
doesn't have a label?
 
- Gordon

-Original Message-
From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com
Subject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity


Hi Flexers,
 
I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't
know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still
trigger over the blank label.
 
Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
(How do I register bugs again?)
Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of
turning off the underlying TextField?
 
 
Kind Regards,
 
Simon Fifield
 




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RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield
Title: Message





Joan,

That 
works like a dream!

Thank 
you,
Simon 
Fifield

  -Original Message-From: Joan Tan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:46To: 
  'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox 
  oddity
  You are right, this is a bug. I believe there is a 
  workaround, however. You can have
  
  mx:CheckBox label="" /
  
  instead of just mx:CheckBox 
  /
  
  and you shouldn't have that 
  problem.
  
  Thanks,
  Joan
  
  
  
  From: Simon Fifield 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 
  3:27 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
  
  I 
  tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you 
  move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, 
  clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label 
  property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it 
  doesn't get turned off when there is no text. 
  I 
  think that it should.
  
  Simon Fifield
  
  
-Original Message-From: Gordon Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 
00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: 
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Is 
the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a 
label?

- 
Gordon

  
  -Original Message-From: Simon 
  Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
  Hi 
  Flexers,
  
  I've just 
  noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it 
  before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the 
  blank label.
  
  Does anyone 
  know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
  (How do I 
  register bugs again?)
  Has anyone a 
  work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying 
  TextField?
  
  
  Kind Regards,
  
  Simon Fifield
  







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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

 
 I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have
 never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to
 say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a
 price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is
 only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).

That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yet
to see any software really get lower in price with increase in
features...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early then
once they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack -
well it would explain a lot - just an analogy.
 
 
 Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer
 customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like
 a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on
 the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it
 is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.

You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @
$12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300
customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits -
but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into the
product based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what IT
Manager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX,
(even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to the
powers that be and go yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going to
buy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I know
i'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem to
read where people go Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc

We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it was
more out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'm
in different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to play
in. Yet if the whole its priced for enterprise companies is just
plain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia in
some pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively about
their spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX because
they see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops we
are no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..see
our products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-k
in products

hehe. that was his exact words btw.
 
 In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base
 of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building
 a 6 month training process into the hire.

Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read:

http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs.

I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX for
one of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet,
again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying power
we have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end up
caving in on price.

Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it down
to what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it could
just fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or it
could ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money and
investment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can use
Flex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is its
background? what's its community like? what's its capabilities in
terms of integration with your legacy systems or current technology
etc..

I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made my
first tier give me this eh, please explain - he straight away saw
why it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to code
DHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power,
testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made.

I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs more
time in the oven.

Flex is the sleeping giant.


-- 
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com
http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)


 
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fifield





Hey 
Scott,

I love 
the disclaimer at the bottom of your mossyblog.com site:


  We own this crap (Any 
  hacking, copying, spaming, etc will result in headbutts) All trademarks 
  property of their owners. blah blah.. . We also reserve the right to use poor 
  spelling, terrible gramma and at times are not required to make sense. We are 
  NOT Macromedia worshipers, we are infact Monkeys at a 
  keyboard...OooO.OoO.oo 
Nice.

Simon

  -Original Message-From: Scott Barnes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 
  00:57To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
  [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price  I have 
  been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once 
  seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the 
  typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase 
  a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 
  Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).That goes with inflation, technology 
  increases and what not. I'm yetto see any software really get lower in 
  price with increase infeatures...its like crack, give it cheaply away for 
  free early thenonce they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke 
  crack -well it would explain a lot - just an analogy.  
  Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers 
  paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, 
  which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the 
  install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is 
  new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.You *could* 
  argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @$12k(2xCPU) or 500 
  customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300customers could of 
  bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits -but reality dictates 
  that those 300 customers could bought into theproduct based on price. I'm 
  also a little fuzzy as to the what ITManager in what Enterprise 
  corporation looks at a product like FLEX,(even without knowing it) gives 
  it a test run and simply turns to thepowers that be and go "yeah, i think 
  its too cheap so i'm not going tobuy it now...if it were double the price, 
  well then maybe ..) I knowi'm fueling an argument here but that is a 
  consistent reply i seem toread where people go "Enterprise buy big, its 
  too cheap etc"We bought the product without thinking of the price at 
  all, it wasmore out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats 
  why i'min different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to 
  playin. Yet if the whole "its priced for enterprise" companies is 
  justplain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia 
  insome pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively 
  abouttheir spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX 
  becausethey see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops 
  "weare no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now 
  enterprise..seeour products have the word enterprise in them now...carn 
  gimme fiddy-kin products"hehe. that was his exact words 
  btw. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a 
  small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on 
  building a 6 month training process into the hire.Yes, I did a 
  costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read:http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm 
  - Flex The Hidden Costs.I as a personal developer hate the price tag 
  as i want to use FLEX forone of my get rich quick apps floating around in 
  my head hehehe. Yet,again as an employee for the company i work with and 
  the buying powerwe have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats 
  where i end upcaving in on price.Lazlo needs more work, compare as 
  much as you want and strip it downto what it can offer today. Tommorow is 
  another debate and it couldjust fade away (like many Open Source projects 
  before it) - or itcould ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how 
  much money andinvestment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which 
  you can useFlex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is 
  itsbackground? what's its community like? what's its capabilities 
  interms of integration with your legacy systems or current 
  technologyetc..I did this little audit a while back for here, and 
  while $15k made myfirst tier give me this "eh, please explain" - he 
  straight away sawwhy it was beneficial as all i had to go with was 
  DHTML...15k to codeDHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in 
  terms man power,testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile 
  apps are made.I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature 
  and needs moretime in the oven.Flex is the sleeping 
  giant.-- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.comhttp://www.flexcoder.com (Coming 
  Soon)







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[flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Krueger










Sorry if this is an obvious one, but I cant find in
any documentation that confirms what I am finding. My question is does the
variable in the actionScript class have to be the same name as the variable in
the java class that it is mapping to. From what I am seeing it does. Can
anyone confirm that?



Thanks



Jeff 













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Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)

2005-03-31 Thread John Dowdell

Benjamin Dobler wrote:
 Why no open source Flex?
 I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components,
 creating Actionscript components
 It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex.

That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true.

One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to 
define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and 
databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to 
describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media 
sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there 
have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of 
SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole 
subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people 
tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director 
experience in XML.)

Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to 
construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some 
cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to 
construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at 
author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each 
request at serving time (as Flex usually does).

I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then 
constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have 
its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios.

jd



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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

:)

its what i do best.. ramble... i am so ready for politics i swear...



On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:12:00 +0100, Simon Fifield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hey Scott, 
   
 I love the disclaimer at the bottom of your mossyblog.com site: 
  
  
 We own this crap (Any hacking, copying, spaming, etc will result in
 headbutts) All trademarks property of their owners. blah blah.. . We also
 reserve the right to use poor spelling, terrible gramma and at times are not
 required to make sense. We are NOT Macromedia worshipers, we are infact
 Monkeys at a keyboard...OooO.OoO.oo 
 Nice. 
   
 Simon 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 April 2005 00:57
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
 
  
  I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have
  never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to
  say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a
  price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is
  only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).
 
 That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yet
 to see any software really get lower in price with increase in
 features...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early then
 once they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack -
 well it would explain a lot - just an analogy.
 
  
  Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer
  customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like
  a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on
  the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it
  is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.
 
 You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @
 $12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300
 customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits -
 but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into the
 product based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what IT
 Manager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX,
 (even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to the
 powers that be and go yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going to
 buy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I know
 i'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem to
 read where people go Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc
 
 We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it was
 more out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'm
 in different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to play
 in. Yet if the whole its priced for enterprise companies is just
 plain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia in
 some pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively about
 their spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX because
 they see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops we
 are no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..see
 our products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-k
 in products
 
 hehe. that was his exact words btw.
 
  In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base
  of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building
  a 6 month training process into the hire.
 
 Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read:
 
 http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs.
 
 I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX for
 one of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet,
 again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying power
 we have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end up
 caving in on price.
 
 Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it down
 to what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it could
 just fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or it
 could ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money and
 investment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can use
 Flex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is its
 background? what's its community like? what's its capabilities in
 terms of integration with your legacy systems or current technology
 etc..
 
 I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made my
 first tier give me this eh, please explain - he straight away saw
 why it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to code
 DHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power,
 testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made.
 
 I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs more
 time in the oven.
 
 Flex is the sleeping giant.
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Scott Barnes
 

Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

Oh and then theres that small little umm requirement

time.

I agree, I remember back in the day i stupidly had this idea of using
XML and Flash 6 together to describe my UI... Libby then invited me to
this product called Royale and said check that out... it blew my mind
as to how damn powerful it was and dwarfed any concept i had floating
around in my head.

At the same time Claus released DENG and again i was blown away by XML
and FLASH together (sure his was more about XHTML etc).

Point is this, the products been ready for the past couple of years
yet the people who have tried it are either held back by time or loose
interest.



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:47:55 -0800, John Dowdell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Benjamin Dobler wrote:
  Why no open source Flex?
  I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components,
  creating Actionscript components
  It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex.
 
 That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true.
 
 One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to
 define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and
 databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to
 describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media
 sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there
 have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of
 SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole
 subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people
 tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director
 experience in XML.)
 
 Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to
 construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some
 cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to
 construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at
 author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each
 request at serving time (as Flex usually does).
 
 I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then
 constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have
 its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios.
 
 jd
 
 --
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 Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd
 Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs
 Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

The price for maintenance is based on the price you paid, not any new prices
for new packaging that might be in place at a future date. 

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:00 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale


I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on 
 the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 
 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.



 
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Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

It should rever to the this scope by default.

I'm not sure where Ketan was going with where this rating - to me it
sounded like it was done in flex but wanted to be used in flash or
vice versa. Now i can see Ketan wants it done soley in Flash - which
by looking at the code seems to hold up ok. I've not cut and pasted to
test it, but i think it sounds like something isn't either named
correctly inside the FLA that or like you said maybe the change events
getting ignored.

1) Make sure your linkage names are correct
2) Debug your change to make sure it infact is getting a fired (via trace)
3) Make sure you as jess points out, import your mx.framework
correctly (to cheat, I've often simply dragged a label onto stage - it
seems to have the smallest payload in terms of the v2 framework and it
brings with it generally the core ingredients) - or was it button..one
of the two anyway.




On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:42:00 -0500, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Not sure why your change event isn't getting fired; try doing 2 things:
 - in Flash, when you associate the ActionScript class to a movie clip, put a
 copy of the UIComponent on frame 2 with a stop(); action on frame 1 to
 prevent it from ever getting to frame 2.
 - change your code from:
 
 dispatchEvent({type: change});
 
 to:
 
 dispatchEvent({type: change, target: this});
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Using Components in Flash
 
 Let me put my question in a different way.
 
 The code that I posted in earlier mail doesnt fire the change event
 On the change event of the component in the flash app nothing happens.
 
 I am able to capture the value on the click of a button but I want
 to capture that value on the click of the component.
 
 Any idea ??
 
 Regards,
 
 Ketan Bengali.
 
 Scott Barnes wrote:
 
 I can't see anything below that will prevent you from using it inside FLASH
 IDE.
 
 You can do one of two things.
 
 1) You can copy your assets/code into FLASH IDE, and make a component
 that way by cutting and pasting + importing assets. That based on what
 i've seen below  would work out ok as the mx.framework is very
 similiar in its design with FLASH IDE... i'd only flag things if you
 used flex specific components like Panel etc...
 
 2) Take your FLEX MXML and using the compc compile it to a SWC file,
 then copy it to your Flash IDE Program Files - again since your using
 the basics of the framework you should be right. I think when you use
 your component, FLASH IDE will tell its compiler to load the FLASH MX
 2004 framewor as opposed to the FLEX version (thats if you have
 FlexForFlash installed inside your ide...if you haven't then ignore
 the above and just compile your mxml to a swc and use it like that)
 
 Under the Flash Docs, do a serach for Creating SWC files it will
 give you a step by step how to.
 
 Other than that, I'm not sure what else is doable.
 
 
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:13:26 +0530, Ketan Bengali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 Heres the code i have in my as file:
 
 import mx.controls.*
 import mx.core.UIObject
 import mx.events.EventDispatcher
 [Event(change)]
 [Event(click)]
 
 class CineRating extends mx.core.UIObject {
 
 static var symbolName:String = CineRating;
 static var symbolOwner:Object = CineRating;
 var className:String = CineRating;
 
 private var _rating:Number;
 
 private var starsCount:Number = 5;
 var movieRS:MovieClip;
 var _starNumber:Number;
 
 function CineRating() {}
 
 function init() {
 super.init();
 movieRS._visible = true;
 }
 
 public function set rating(nRating:Number):Void {
 if(nRating%2 != 0 || nRating%2 != 1) {
 if(nRating - Math.floor(nRating)  0  nRating -
 Math.floor(nRating)  0.5) {
 nRating = Math.floor(nRating)
 } else {
 nRating = Math.ceil(nRating);
 }
 }
 
 this._rating = nRating;
 invalidate();
 //draw();
 dispatchEvent({type: change});
 }
 
 public function draw() {
 
 if(!_parent[star+(starsCount-1)]) {
 
 for(var i:Number = 0; i  starsCount;i++) {
 this.movieRS.duplicateMovieClip(star+i, i+1);
 this[star+i]._x = i * this[star+i]._width/0.95;
 this[star+i].starNumber = i;
 
 if(i  _rating) {
 this[star+i].gotoAndStop(select);
 }
 else {
 this[star+i].gotoAndStop(default);
 }
 
 /*RollOver Event Declaration*/
 
 this[star+i].onRollOver = function() {
 
 //mx.controls.Alert.show(Inside RollOver)
 
 var tname:Number;
 tname = this._name.charAt(this._name.length - 1);
 
 

[flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
something to tap into the PDA.

Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
points here in terms of that style approach...


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Tarik Ahmed






Ya apparently I need to be sending out my resume to companies that can
afford this stuff! :)

Scott Barnes wrote:

  On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:02:32 +0200, Michel Jansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down...  Laszo/BackBase time??

  
  
heh good luck with those, I'm not belittling th..actually I am. Think
long-term, post FLEX 1.5 and what then. How far behind do you forsee
products like Breeze, FlashCom, Flash Lite and even ye ol Central get
intertwined with Flex in a more powerful approach.

Its time in many ways to choose a technology and lets face it we are
highly likely at a level in our projects that what we decide today
will be our legacy for the next 2-5 years at the most? Laszlo is Flash
5.0 at the moment (or was it 6.0) and well yeah..always going to be
close but no cigar with that product imho.

I dunno, maybe i am in a company thats spoiling me but all said and
done price models have shifted yes but not entirely convinced its a
dramatically bad thing. Not saying i'd happilly wait for the day when
its like 5k or something ;)




  










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RE: [flexcoders] Ok, I am over defending the price hike now...her es why.

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

A lot of stuff here, so let me hit the highlights. 

Scott, and dozens more of you, we love the fact that you love Flex. We have
tens of thousands of hours of development time into this product and it's a
wonderful validation of our work that you love it. And don't think we take
that lightly. Working directly with all of you is the only way we got Flex
to the loving shape its in. We will continue to work with you. Continue to
listen to every word you write. We may not respond to every message (we
don't) and we may not react as fast as you would like, but you will see us
react. 

Enough preamble, though it is all true. 

I read a couple of things here. On the OEM discussion. Our OEM licensing is
very open and flexible. We really do recognize that companies are in all
different sizes and places in their development. We want to get paid for the
value OEMs will get from using our software, but sometimes we can't get paid
until you do. This is exactly why I keep saying where you have a compelling
model and there's something in it for everyone, let's talk. You'd be
surprised to see the breadth of deals we do in that fashion, some would even
work for your brilliant idea that didn't fly.

To the broad discussion of transparency. We hear you. And others out there
asking for the same thing. There are a few reasons to be concerned about
giving away lots of details: US public company regulations, competition,
rampant expectations, etc. But all of those are workable, of course. Over
the coming months, I hope we can respond to your needs here with lots more
openness. Over the past 6 months, you've seen more from Macromedia than in
the past. You saw live demos of the Flash Player 8 a long time before its to
be shipped which included feature descriptions, etc. While we'll never show
everything, of course, we have more work to do and have lagged with Flex on
this, admittedly, but we hope to make up for that over the next six months.
Valid criticism.  I appreciate that your mail gives us some broad directions
to make sure we have covered. We'll be asking a LOT of people in the next
few months what you need to know. 

I hope this helps you feel better about the immediate. For the long term,
the only way to make you more comfortable is if our actions meet my words
and your requests.  

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:50 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Ok, I am over defending the price hike now...heres
why.


Ok, I've always wondered about a few issue and i'm in a broody mood so
i'll air it here: (heh)

I'm a developer who would like to make productX, lets just say my
productX is a great idea  for me to believe in. Now if i am stupid
enough right now to attack my dream with Flex as a front-end tier and
lets assume it all comes together and works a treat.

I then go to market with my idea, i look around and eventually I find
5 customers willing to buy that said product.

What are my options in terms of approaching Macromedia? Do i go down
the OEM route? last i heard it was like 12% of the total price tag (i
sell at) and you had to commit to x-number of UNITS in purchase.

That for me is THE number one question I get asked when people probe
me for insight into why flex is great and is always followed up with a
yeah but how can i sell it to my clients.

(I've been freely giving away advice / consultancy on FLEX and its
power because i want more people using it to justify my personal
investment in learning the product. Brisbane apparently has a few
factions using it and i want more!)

Now this could range from medoke web-site apps, CMS systems or into
one big eBusiness  off the shelf self deploy intranet system for a
company to buy and then EXTEND outward. I know my company did just
that, bought an intranet system and now they are extending outward to
suite.

Where is the innovation incubator - *I* know if i come up with a good
idea, proove its working,  i can then approach my local MM Sales team
with it and they will give me an open honest answer - but thats me, i
know that and the reason i know that as i've built up a relationship
with them over the years. What i'm stating is wheres that
encouragement in full public view, case studies and what not. Its like
its one big secret and i have to ask why? its extremly harder for
people like me to walk in and pitch it to people with buying power.

MXDU 2005 by all reports had people shocked and excited that one
vendor from Straker was able to get an apparent sweet deal on
CFMX+FLEX in OEM? I heard more people talking about that then the
freakin conference - which showed one thing, MM you have peoples
attention with flex.

I am not trying to be a pain in the butt and critical of the evil
empire that which is Macromedia, just really curious as to why FLEX
needs to be thise constant closed book and isn't as transparent as
everyone seems to think.

Where is its roadmap for the 

RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the
futures for Flex. 

As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based
interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones
and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will
continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices
as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash
Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet. 

Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is
absolutely a direction we are heading. 

Lucian 

-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?


I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
something to tap into the PDA.

Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
points here in terms of that style approach...


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Tarik Ahmed

Financially, obviously they ran their cost/market/etc analysis and came 
up with those numbers.

I think one thing that is a risk play for MM is the intangible value of 
the critical mass when it comes to community knowledge. Eg there are so 
many Coldfusion guys that you have city level user groups all over the 
world. Flex has -1- for the entire planet. :) If I were buying into a 
brand new technology, and it's the greatest thing the world has ever 
seen, but as far as you know you're the only one into it - then your 
only source of support is the vendor. In terms of Flex dedicated sites 
you've got a couple of blogs, CFlex and Flex Authority. There's a long 
way to go!

Community support is critical to technology adoption. It was the second 
thing my manager asked about (the first was the price), because they 
didn't want to invest in a technology that hardly anyone knows - puts 
too much dependence on one or two people. So to compensate for this, MM 
has been providing a lot of developer support for free in this forum - 
that's a huge cost when you have premium developer time spent doing a 
ton of emails.

So by increasing the price, you're reducing the amount of potential 
developers, knowledge sharers, activitists, evangelists, resource sites, 
etc...  which will result in MM  having to continue dedicating heavy 
amounts of resources towards keeping the community floating along. It'll 
be interesting to see how things play out.

Here's some ideas :)
 - LoanMX to help companies pay for Flex
 - Work For Licenses Program. Dedicate your coding time towards 
Macromedia projects in exchange for points that you can redeem for 
discounts on s/w.

...sigh



Benoit Hediard wrote:

I don't see the point of this licensing change.

With the old licensing:
Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000,
Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000,
Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it
for more than ~$29 000.

Everybody were happy.

With the new licensing:
Business case A- not anymore...???
Business case B- not anymore...???
Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold
support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing)

This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it
answers less business cases.
The contrary would have been a much clever move:
Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a
real starter kit...).

I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to
confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many
opportunities).

Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price.

Strange... I don't understand...

Ben

-Message d'origine-
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Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18
À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?

Regards,

Sjors Pals


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Tarik Ahmed






I think a more serious contender is Xamlon. Previewing on April 6th.

http://news.com.com/Software+turns+.Net+to+Flash/2100-1032_3-5647420.html


Jeff Steiner wrote:

  My guess is that you will be back.

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, 

This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing
their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they hold all
the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that
they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
their company's future to flash).

I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they
want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
world to see what they missed.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


  
  
We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying

  
  'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do
with Flex even though we have purchased it.
  
  
Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

-- Original message -- 

Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well

  
  (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users
to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.
  
  
I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex

  
  and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out
to be.
  
  







From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

Lucian,

"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus

  
  SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!
  
  
"Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their

  
  applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we
are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so
we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.
"
  
  
It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs

  
  like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
considered expensive by many potential users...
  
  
I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come

  
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread Tarik Ahmed




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Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists
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Thanx for the compliment. Although i am no economist, i'm not stupid.
Just like you guys. Who is going to pull prices up if the product aint
selling. The CFO that does this is the real moron!

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[flexcoders] Flex license

2005-03-31 Thread Valy Sivec

Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy
multiple apps using the same license number on the
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex license

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would
like to run on the CPUs licensed. 

Lucian 

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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price

2005-03-31 Thread jacksodj


I have had Some Shares for much longer, its about break even for 
me. :(

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 I've owned MACR shares since Sept. It's one of my best performing 
stocks!
 
 
 
 JesterXL wrote:
 
 Forbes recommended that investors do so.
 
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 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
 
 
 
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 Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The 
economists
 on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers.
 
 
 
 Thanx for the compliment. Although i am no economist, i'm not 
stupid.
 Just like you guys. Who is going to pull prices up if the product 
aint
 selling. The CFO that does this is the real moron!
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex license

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

If you buy a 2CPU you can deploy on 2 Servers (each having 1 cpu) right?


On Apr 1, 2005 12:56 PM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you would
 like to run on the CPUs licensed.
 
 Lucian
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its
refreshing..but mostly annoying.

Thanks for confirming that :)

That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in
that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX
and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use
flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever.

Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ
PDA's and where do i start kind of thing.

The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel
Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its
lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency
request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
they next get a free moment.

That's the angle in which I want to approach.

On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on the
 futures for Flex.
 
 As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash based
 interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones
 and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We will
 continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those devices
 as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash
 Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet.
 
 Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is
 absolutely a direction we are heading.
 
 Lucian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
 I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
 by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
 noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
 instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
 time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
 something to tap into the PDA.
 
 Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
 FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
 I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
 points here in terms of that style approach...
 
 --
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 http://www.mossyblog.com
 http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Custom AS2 Effects

2005-03-31 Thread Mike Shaw





Thanks Jason,

that nailed it. I had played around with the event but not 
got it right. It's so obvious when I see your solution. 

Cheers Mike.


From: Jason Szeto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 April 2005 5:21 AMTo: 
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Effects
Mike,Add listener.onEffectEnd(this);to 
the end of your playEffect function. This will tell the Sequence effectthat 
the effect is finished playing. The Sequence effect sets itself as 
thelistener of each of its child effects. Jason-Original 
Message-From: Mike Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 30, 2005 11:01 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
[flexcoders] Custom AS2 EffectsHi Folks,Does anyone know 
why the following custom effect class which I am trying touse to call 
various functions in an effect sequence would cause the sequenceto halt 
after running the called function.Thanks Mike.import 
mx.effects.Effect;class com.webqem.flex.effects.CallFunctionEffect 
extends Effect { 
 private var 
obj:Object; private var 
func:String; private var 
args:Array;  
 function CallFunctionEffect(obj:Object, 
func:String) {  
this.obj = obj;  
this.func = func; 
 
arguments.shift(); 
 
arguments.shift(); 
 this.args = 
arguments; } 
 public function playEffect():Void 
{  
  if (obj != 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application
running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such
apps...

We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :) 

 I want to push out an emergency
 request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
 quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
 they next get a free moment.

Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do this
for you...

-abdul

-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?


heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its
refreshing..but mostly annoying.

Thanks for confirming that :)

That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in
that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX
and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use
flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever.

Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ
PDA's and where do i start kind of thing.

The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel
Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its
lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency
request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
they next get a free moment.

That's the angle in which I want to approach.

On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on
the
 futures for Flex.
 
 As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash
based
 interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones
 and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We
will
 continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those
devices
 as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash
 Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet.
 
 Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is
 absolutely a direction we are heading.
 
 Lucian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
 I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
 by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
 noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
 instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
 time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
 something to tap into the PDA.
 
 Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
 FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
 I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
 points here in terms of that style approach...
 
 --
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 Scott Barnes
 http://www.mossyblog.com
 http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

where do you start though? got any URLS for a kickstart or something
along those lines. Atm the PDA's used are iPAQ ones *latest* not sure
on exact model. They have talked about wireless lans being installed
in the office etc... just thought i would be a big ol star if i turn
around in a month and go - yeah this is flex phase 01..nice isn't
it..oh who has their PDA here...now check your inbox... ;)

I could get a payrise then ;) hehehe.

On Apr 1, 2005 2:20 PM, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application
 running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such
 apps...
 
 We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :)
 
  I want to push out an emergency
  request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
  quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
  they next get a free moment.
 
 Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do this
 for you...
 
 -abdul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
 heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its
 refreshing..but mostly annoying.
 
 Thanks for confirming that :)
 
 That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in
 that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX
 and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use
 flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever.
 
 Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ
 PDA's and where do i start kind of thing.
 
 The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel
 Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its
 lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency
 request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
 quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
 they next get a free moment.
 
 That's the angle in which I want to approach.
 
 On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on
 the
  futures for Flex.
 
  As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash
 based
  interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell phones
  and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We
 will
  continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those
 devices
  as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash
  Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet.
 
  Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is
  absolutely a direction we are heading.
 
  Lucian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
  I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
  by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
  noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
  instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
  time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
  something to tap into the PDA.
 
  Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
  FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
  I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
  points here in terms of that style approach...
 
  --
  Regards,
  Scott Barnes
  http://www.mossyblog.com
  http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
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[flexcoders] Flex Pricing: Relax!

2005-03-31 Thread Vinny Timmermans





I have started many discussions on Flex pricing, and 
contributed heavily to each and every other previous Flex pricing post, because 
I was convinced that Flex pricing killed my and other Flex lovers' 
opportunities. The reason why I did not contribute until so far is simple. I 
have experienced that for hot opportunities Macromedia is willing to work out 
the right deal for you and your customer. They don't kill your opportunities. 
This is a proven fact. So if you think Flex may be the right solution for your 
customer's business problem, don't let the pricetag intimidate you. Contact 
Macromedia and work it out!

The real threat, however, comes from a different corner. 
High price tags might frighten developers to seriously invest in Flex. Return on 
investment may seem far lower than frominvesting in any other 
platform.The number of experienced, professional Flex developers is low at 
the moment and may not rise fast enough to realize all Flex opportunities that 
pop-up in the market in the coming years.Therefore it is absolutely 
necessary that Macromedia will provide a range of other Flex packages soon. 
Fromlow-cost (stripped down server-based versions) to no-cost (just mxml 
compilation without server-based features; the developer-centered Flash 
alternative).The critical success factor in the next period is not 
the Flex price tag, but the number of experienced, highly qualified developers 
out there that master MXML and AS2 and can rapidly create the killer 
applications Flex can offer. Don't make it a second ColdFusion:powerful 
platform, excellent programming language, not enough 
developers.

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RE: [flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Hi,

 My question is does the variable in the actionScript class have to be the
same name as
 the variable in the java class that it is mapping to. 

YesIf you want to map an ActionScript class to a typed java class on
server, you need to have following things:
 
- Your ActionScript class should have same name as Java class has.
- Property name in ActionScript class should match with property/getter
names in Java class.
- You need to register your class using Object.registerClass(com.Product,
com.Product); Assuming com.Product is java class on server and also in AS..
- Your ActionScript class cannot use properties that are declared as
getter/setter properties using the get and set keywords; the properties must
be real variables. 



For more info, see this page:

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/flex_docs_en/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/w
whelp.htm?href=2246.htm

And this page:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/flex_docs_en/0778.htm


Hope that helps... 
 
 
-abdul



From: Jeff Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:10 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Remote object mapping properties



Sorry if this is an obvious one, but I can't find in any documentation that
confirms what I am finding.  My question is does the variable in the
actionScript class have to be the same name as the variable in the java
class that it is mapping to.  From what I am seeing it does.  Can anyone
confirm that?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex license

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Steiner

So then what is stopping an ISP from using that methodology?

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com

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 The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you
would
 like to run on the CPUs licensed.

 Lucian

 -Original Message-
 From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license


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[flexcoders] Flex on a PDA - Beta?

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Steiner

Lucian,

Any way I could be considered for a beta on that?

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex license

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

Well your then reselling flex over and over in smaller pieces...

in that your buying the server as you company X to use as many times
as you want provided you don't resell that server to company Y unless
authorized?



On Apr 1, 2005 2:39 PM, Jeff Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So then what is stopping an ISP from using that methodology?
 
 Jeff
 http://www.flexauthority.com
 
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 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:56 PM
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex license
 
 
  The Flex license allows you to deploy as many Flex applications as you
 would
  like to run on the CPUs licensed.
 
  Lucian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:53 PM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Flex license
 
 
  Is flex license per web application? Can I deploy
  multiple apps using the same license number on the
  same server?
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex PDA?

2005-03-31 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Hi Scott,

You can find some tutorials on macromedia.compocket_pcdevnet..

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/devices/pocket_pc.html

Hope that helps...

-abdul 

PS: Payrise, hmm,  all the best for that

-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:56 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?


where do you start though? got any URLS for a kickstart or something
along those lines. Atm the PDA's used are iPAQ ones *latest* not sure
on exact model. They have talked about wireless lans being installed
in the office etc... just thought i would be a big ol star if i turn
around in a month and go - yeah this is flex phase 01..nice isn't
it..oh who has their PDA here...now check your inbox... ;)

I could get a payrise then ;) hehehe.

On Apr 1, 2005 2:20 PM, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nothing stops us making such small app in Flash, since an application
 running in PDA won't be large, I see Flash can be used to develop such
 apps...
 
 We should not forget, Flash(our old friend) is also around :)
 
  I want to push out an emergency
  request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
  quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
  they next get a free moment.
 
 Flex-Intranet App + XMLSocket/FlashComm + Flash PDA/Mobile app, can do
this
 for you...
 
 -abdul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:41 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
 heh i have a way of probing ...some say its annoying others say its
 refreshing..but mostly annoying.
 
 Thanks for confirming that :)
 
 That being said (cool! as it is) i'm wondering if anyones done much in
 that way. Like I have a bunch of workflows being built here via FLEX
 and I'd like to sort of tap into the PDA technology (whether I use
 flex to run it and it pushes to a 3rd party technology) or whatever.
 
 Has anyone integrated (surely there are some) an intranet with iPAQ
 PDA's and where do i start kind of thing.
 
 The way I see it, is that if say someone fills out a Travel
 Authorization Request here via the Flex-Intranet, i then do its
 lifecyle but if its critical request, I want to push out an emergency
 request to the management via PDA/Mobile device so that they can
 quickly authorize it there on faith and come back to that task when
 they next get a free moment.
 
 That's the angle in which I want to approach.
 
 On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Lucian Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is one part of your message where you asked for more definition on
 the
  futures for Flex.
 
  As you know, Macromedia has a substantial investment in getting Flash
 based
  interfaces to mobile devices. PDAs are a part of that, as are cell
phones
  and other devices. We have made a series of announcement about that. We
 will
  continue to work on that to bring the latest Flash Players to those
 devices
  as they become powerful enough to run the Players. Currently, the Flash
  Players for PDAs and cell phones are not Flash Player 7 yet.
 
  Clearly Flex has a ways to go to run on those devices, but that is
  absolutely a direction we are heading.
 
  Lucian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 PM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Flex  PDA?
 
  I notice my boss runs around daily holding his PDA and i guess lives
  by it (needs to schedule in toilet breaks). I then looked around and
  noticed others here do the same, and it got me thinking that maybe
  instead of requesting meetings here internally for 5mins of their
  time, I can shoot off a request or something along those lines -
  something to tap into the PDA.
 
  Has anyone had much experience with this and hopefully combined with
  FLEX? Can PDA's work with Flash Player 7 as yet? anyone got something
  I can go down this path with on? as i'd love to win some brownie
  points here in terms of that style approach...
 
  --
  Regards,
  Scott Barnes
  http://www.mossyblog.com
  http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)
 
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