[flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
I think I can give you a very good case study that is a perfect match for what you describe. http://www.cynergysystems.com/pages/how/case/crisiscoach.html LifeCoach is an online Behavioral Health portal providing remote clinical care to Fortune 500 companies and is live, in production today. The end result is one of the most sophisticated behavioral health applications ever delivered which allows users to browse vast content, collaborate in open discussions as well as one-on-one peer counseling, initiate live secure chat with crisis counselors, take computer based therapy programs and to track their progress throughout the program. I think this sounds like a good match for what you're looking for. Thr CrisisCoach version of this appliction is actually providing services to Katrina survivors and families. This application was also a finalist for the Macromedia MAX award. We host a sanitized copy of the application on our demos server as well. Please let me know if you need more information. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: FLEX Partnership Opportunity
JesterXL -- that's cool, I want to buy into it -- but just need to be shown the error of my ways. Could you please just provide me with some of the advantages? I'm trying to migrate all my future efforts into a J2EE orientation with Flex and Flash 8 and above as the presentation layer. -rJesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enterprise Services = da Bomb - Original Message - From: Robert Thompson To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: FLEX Partnership Opportunity Except for cases of RemoteObject and better J2EE integration, why wouldn't someone stick to a Flex2 client consuming doc based Web Services or use of HTTPService? I would be interested in general test bed open project types of activities for the J2EE implementations.Alex Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot give pricing info over here.Currently they are not being used at all.Thanks,Alex--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "jperedo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander, give me an idea of what that license usually retails for? and how are you currently using it, is it hosting anything? Thanks. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Alex" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello developers,I own a 4 cpu Flex license which apparently cannot be sold and I am entitled to free upgrade to FLEX 2.0 Enterprise etc...I am looking for serious Flex developers who have a project in mind or on the way! or even ready to partner with or arrange some kind of deal.I will provide the hardware as well.Please contact me if you have anything in mind, even if its not in the above premises. EMAIL: atsoukias @ gmail.comThanks, Alexander Tsoukias Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Dynamic MXML loading
Hi All, I have a requirement to dynamically load mxml at runtime. We use a custom tool to generate MXML code for various screens. The MXML sources thus generated are stored as an XML Objects in the database associated with a screen ID. For. eg. Screen Code | MXML source stored as XML object --- S001 | (XML Object) MXML source code for Screen 1 S002 | (XML Object) MXML source code for Screen 2 The screens will be accessed calling a common servlet and passing the screen ID to it. The servlet is responsible for a) fetching the XML object corresponding to the screen id from the database b) dispatching the request to a JSP with the XML String thus fetched. The called JSP should render the XML String using Flex Tag Libs as shown below, %@ taglib uri=FlexTagLib prefix=mm % % String mxmlString=request.getParameter(mxml); // mxml is the name of the attribute that holds the XML String % mm:mxml %=mxmlString% /mm:mxml The problem we are facing is that the MXML does not get rendered properly. Supposing the MXML source is as shown below, mx:Application xmlns:mx='http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml' mx:Panel height='600' width='600' title='test' id='Panel1' mx:TextInput id='TextInput2' / mx:DataGrid id='DataGrid3' / /mx:Panel mx:TextInput id='TextInput3' / /mx:Application The MXML embedded in the JSP only displays the direct children of the Application. In the above examples, the Panel1 and TextInput3 are displayed while TextInput2 and DataGrid3 are node displayed. (Please note that the mxmlString contains the source code correctly). It will a great help if you can give any suggestion/solution to this problem. Please let me know if there is any alternate way to dynamically display mxml. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Dynamic MXML loading
I think you might want to step back and decide if you really want to use this approach. One of the biggest advantages of a RIA interface is to avoid the request/response style of building web applications. What you are looking to do here is a direct analog to that request/response traditional web style of development and is kind of a step back rather then forward. Worse off, going to a controller servlet which dynamically builds MXML, compiles it, retuns the SWF embedded inside a dynamicaly built JSP etc is IMHO going to be a dog. I can tell you that in production we pre-compile all MXML into swf's. The JIT MXML compiler isnt exactly performant. Roll in that you have to build the MXML dynamically in a servlet, then render it inside a JSP, then have it comiled, downloaded, etc. For a bonus, every screen loaded also now required database I/O, which is always the slowest concern in a web application. Continue on with the fact you likely are much more dependant on an HTTP session object to maintain state, blah blah. I would seriously review your design and decide for yourself if you want to develop a RIA this way. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, varalakshmi_palani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a requirement to dynamically load mxml at runtime. We use a custom tool to generate MXML code for various screens. The MXML sources thus generated are stored as an XML Objects in the database associated with a screen ID. For. eg. Screen Code | MXML source stored as XML object --- S001 | (XML Object) MXML source code for Screen 1 S002 | (XML Object) MXML source code for Screen 2 The screens will be accessed calling a common servlet and passing the screen ID to it. The servlet is responsible for a) fetching the XML object corresponding to the screen id from the database b) dispatching the request to a JSP with the XML String thus fetched. The called JSP should render the XML String using Flex Tag Libs as shown below, %@ taglib uri=FlexTagLib prefix=mm % % String mxmlString=request.getParameter(mxml); // mxml is the name of the attribute that holds the XML String % mm:mxml %=mxmlString% /mm:mxml The problem we are facing is that the MXML does not get rendered properly. Supposing the MXML source is as shown below, mx:Application xmlns:mx='http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml' mx:Panel height='600' width='600' title='test' id='Panel1' mx:TextInput id='TextInput2' / mx:DataGrid id='DataGrid3' / /mx:Panel mx:TextInput id='TextInput3' / /mx:Application The MXML embedded in the JSP only displays the direct children of the Application. In the above examples, the Panel1 and TextInput3 are displayed while TextInput2 and DataGrid3 are node displayed. (Please note that the mxmlString contains the source code correctly). It will a great help if you can give any suggestion/solution to this problem. Please let me know if there is any alternate way to dynamically display mxml. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications
My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the "harmless Flash Player" installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening,I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help.Thanks,Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: FLEX Partnership Opportunity
rob, try getting hold of this MAX presentation. it's the most detailed information I have seen so far on data services. RA004W Next Generation Flex: Data Services Presenter: Christophe Coenraets the files are out there somewhere... On 11/6/05, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JesterXL -- that's cool, I want to buy into it -- but just need to be shown the error of my ways. Could you please just provide me with some of the advantages? I'm trying to migrate all my future efforts into a J2EE orientation with Flex and Flash 8 and above as the presentation layer. -r JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enterprise Services = da Bomb - Original Message - From: Robert Thompson To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: FLEX Partnership Opportunity Except for cases of RemoteObject and better J2EE integration, why wouldn't someone stick to a Flex2 client consuming doc based Web Services or use of HTTPService? I would be interested in general test bed open project types of activities for the J2EE implementations. Alex Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot give pricing info over here. Currently they are not being used at all. Thanks, Alex --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, jperedo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander, give me an idea of what that license usually retails for? and how are you currently using it, is it hosting anything? Thanks. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello developers, I own a 4 cpu Flex license which apparently cannot be sold and I am entitled to free upgrade to FLEX 2.0 Enterprise etc... I am looking for serious Flex developers who have a project in mind or on the way! or even ready to partner with or arrange some kind of deal. I will provide the hardware as well. Please contact me if you have anything in mind, even if its not in the above premises. EMAIL: atsoukias @ gmail.com Thanks, Alexander Tsoukias Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- : Aldo Bucchi : mobile (56) 8 429 8300 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications
I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- : Aldo Bucchi : mobile (56) 8 429 8300 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. And that's all as users they should care about! I'm not sure that makes healthcare users any different from every other user. All the more reason to focus on the user experience first, and use your engineering experience to implement a performant back-end. The RIA world gives you a lot more flexability to do that. On the healthcare side here in the U.S. HIPAA is a huge issue to keep in mind in terms of security and privacy. We did a lot with LifeCoach to manage security and privacy in a HIPAA world. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group,
[flexcoders] File - flexcodersFAQ.txt
Flexcoders Frequently Asked Questions Last Updated: 30th May 2005 Contributors: Matt Chotin, Steven Webster, Alistair McLeod, Tariq Ahmed, Jeff Tapper, Peter Farland, Abdul Qabiz, Tracy Spratt, Jesse Warden, Dan Harfleet, Manish Jethani, Dimitrios Gianninas 1. What is Flexcoders? 2. How does Flexcoders relate to the Macromedia Flex Forum on www.macromedia.com? 3. Who posts to Flexcoders? 4. Resources to check before asking a question 5. Guidelines for effective question-asking 6. FAQ 1. What is Flexcoders? Flexcoders is a forum where developers can ask questions about Flex, FlexBuilder, and Flex-related technologies (like Cairngorm, FlexUnit and SynergyFLEX). The community is made up of everyday Flex developers as well as Macromedia employees. However, this is not an official Macromedia-sponsored forum, it is actually moderated by the folks at iteration::two, a consultancy responsible for authoring the book Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flex. 2. How does Flexcoders relate to the Macromedia Flex Forum on www.macromedia.com? Both the Macromedia Flex Forum and Flexcoders provide help on issues related to Flex, and neither is an official support mechanism. Some people monitor both forums, some only one. It is up to you to decide where you might have a better experience getting a question answered and being able to subsequently help others. 3. Who posts to Flexcoders? Everyone who has a question or an answer. Many members of the Flex development team read and respond to Flexcoders as well as other Macromedia folks who monitor the community. Some recurring Macromedia folks are: David Mendels: EVP and GM, highest-level executive in charge of Flex. Lucian Beebe: Sr. Product Manager, Flex. Matt Chotin, Manish Jethani, Abdul Qabiz, Gordon Smith, Peter Farland and many more: Engineers on Flex. Active community members include: Steven Webster (Technical Director at iteration::two and co-author of Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex), Alistair McLeod (Development Director at iteration::two and co-author of Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex), Jesse Warden (JesterXL - Flash badass playing with Flex), Tracy Spratt (long-time member, holder of all knowledge related to 32K limits), Jeff Steiner (maintainer of www.flexauthority.com), Tariq Ahmed (maintainer of www.cflex.net), Jimmy Gianninas (long-time member, developer at Optimal Payments). And so many more! 4. Resources to check before asking a question The Flexcoders Mail Archive (better searching than YahooGroups): http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com http://www.cflex.net/showfaq.cfm http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/asdocs_en/index.html http://www.macromedia.com/go/flex15_java_livedocs http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm http://www.cflex.net http://www.flexauthority.com http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex http://coenraets.com http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna/ http://www.google.com The Book Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex (check your favorite bookstore) 5. Guidelines to effective question-asking Include a useful subject; this will help people find their own questions and answers later. Explain what you are trying to accomplish. Explain the error (include compilation errors or a description of the runtime behavior). Be prepared to break your problem down into a simpler scenario in case someone wants to try to debug the code themselves. Remember, private web services are inaccessible; you may need to create some dummy data to emulate problems. Phrases to avoid: URGENT (we all have deadlines, no one is intentionally delaying a response to you) Please send code (this is very frustrating to read as it implies you aren't interested in learning anything on your own. Where code is appropriate you can expect someone to provide it, but in many cases you will learn more by doing it on your own with appropriate guidance. It may be that you're on a deadline and just want to finish, but many of those who respond regularly would prefer to teach you to fish so that you can answer your own questions next time and even help out others). 6. Mini-FAQ Q: Can I mail Matt, Manish, Abdul, Pete, Gordon, iteration::two, or anyone else for that matter off-line with my question? A: Please don't! If someone is capable of answering your question on- list please believe that it will be done. Everyone on the list has full-time jobs doing their own work and often answer flexcoders on their own time; mailing them off- list doesnt endear you to them. If no one answers on-list in a reasonable amount of time (24 hours) you can try to rephrase the question and perhaps include more detail (including a version of the problem that someone can run without doing any setup on their own
Re: [flexcoders] File - flexcodersFAQ.txt
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com wrote: Q: Is there a Rich Text Editor? This answer needs to be updated: Flex 2.0 includes a Rich Text Editor, available with the mx:RichTextEditor / tag. Documentation for the component is available here: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/mx/controls/RichTextEditor.html For Flex 1.5, try the FlashTextEditor component: http://www.flashtexteditor.com/in.php Q: How can I make FlexBuilder faster? For Flex Builder 2.0, the best thing you can do is disable the Build Automatically option. Uncheck Project - Build Automatically from the menu and you should see increased performance, especially during save operations. Also, if you're not using a project make sure that you close it to free up memory. Q: Are there frameworks available for Flex? ARP is also a Flex framework, but is not included in the list. http://www.osflash.org/projects/arp/about Yes, I know the trouble/fued/history between Cairngorm and ARP, but.. well a FAQ should be unbiased and list everything available. Also, I prefer ASUnit ( http://www.asunit.org/ ) for unit testing, as opposed to FlexUnit. Q: When will Flex for .NET be available? It looks like this is won't even be available for Flex 2 Enterprise Services right away either. Everything on the labs website seems to point to Flex Enterprise Services as being J2EE only. I would imagine MM wants to get things right on one platform before porting things over to another.. -d Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Tue 8 November Flex 2.0 Overview 12midday on Breeze If you missed the sneak review on the 11 Oct, here's you chance for a second go. This time it's more details are available. To attend, please register on http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=detailid=345942loc=en_xap. The session will go for 1.5 hours Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
I was definitely worried about the HIPAA stuff. They beat that into our heads in medical school to the point of paranoia but it becomes even more important in this context. Mani On 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. And that's all as users they should care about! I'm not sure that makes healthcare users any different from every other user. All the more reason to focus on the user experience first, and use your engineering experience to implement a performant back-end. The RIA world gives you a lot more flexability to do that. On the healthcare side here in the U.S. HIPAA is a huge issue to keep in mind in terms of security and privacy. We did a lot with LifeCoach to manage security and privacy in a HIPAA world. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your
Re: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications
I guess that's where I come in handy. For the last two years I've been on sabbatical learning to develop web apps so that I can be one of the physicians who do know what the developers are talking about. Although I know that I don't have the experience to build a large scale application I won't get all glazed over and confused when the programmers are describing different aspects to me. I was frustrated trying to push medicine forward as far as computers and not really knowing what I was pushing for.Hey- it's not hardheadedness- it's posed confidence -and fear of doing anything differently. I think a large part of medical training is- do this exactly like this or the sky will fall- Evidence based medicine is moving away from that thankfully. I think the rule about young female nurses applies in all aspects of medical practice but that's an entirely different discussion for another forum. ManiOn 11/6/05, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
Dave,Would it be possible for me to provide my attending with access to that sanitized demo. I think he would enjoy seeing that in action.Thanks,ManiOn 11/6/05, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was definitely worried about the HIPAA stuff. They beat that into our heads in medical school to the point of paranoia but it becomes even more important in this context. Mani On 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. And that's all as users they should care about! I'm not sure that makes healthcare users any different from every other user. All the more reason to focus on the user experience first, and use your engineering experience to implement a performant back-end. The RIA world gives you a lot more flexability to do that. On the healthcare side here in the U.S. HIPAA is a huge issue to keep in mind in terms of security and privacy. We did a lot with LifeCoach to manage security and privacy in a HIPAA world. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual clinic environment. The part that has me nervous is that although I have ideas and see the many ways that Flex can be used in the delivery of remote care I have no hardcore experience or anecdotes of what hurdles developers have come across in implementing true healthcare delivery tools. Any stories of successes or failed attempts or known specific pitfalls would really help. Thanks, Mani -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
[flexcoders] Brocade Case Study
Can anyone give me an idea how long it would take and what budget you would need to have an app like the Brocade link below developed? http://flexapps.macromedia.com/flex/brocade/app.mxml I realise that its a difficult question but I just want to get a gut feeling for the size of cash you would guys think it would need. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
Absolutely. Contact me via email and I will get that setup. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Would it be possible for me to provide my attending with access to that sanitized demo. I think he would enjoy seeing that in action. Thanks, Mani On 11/6/05, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was definitely worried about the HIPAA stuff. They beat that into our heads in medical school to the point of paranoia but it becomes even more important in this context. Mani On 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. And that's all as users they should care about! I'm not sure that makes healthcare users any different from every other user. All the more reason to focus on the user experience first, and use your engineering experience to implement a performant back-end. The RIA world gives you a lot more flexability to do that. On the healthcare side here in the U.S. HIPAA is a huge issue to keep in mind in terms of security and privacy. We did a lot with LifeCoach to manage security and privacy in a HIPAA world. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm aware that UNC Chapel Hill has a Flex based application but am not aware of the details of what functionality it provides. I am in the process of writing a proposal for one of my attendings to suggest Flex as the tool for the development of a virtual
[flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container??
Yes you can. We've run it on about 4 different containers. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dudu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I run my flex application under any container(tomcat, jboss, websphere) for free??? Just putting the flex.jar in my lib folder ??? I think yes, because the examples.war that come with flex framework installer, I can deploy on any j2ee container... because it has a .jar with the classes needed in lib folder. thanks ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis: Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Brocade Case Study
It can be difficult because the devil is often in the details. What we do with our clients is what we refer to as a Model Design. In the MD we develop the entire user interface, bind to static data, include a functional spec, data model, test plan and a project plan. Its the project plan you really need to figure out the engire cost. We've done quite a few of these and they are very popular. Thats because you not only have a price, but every pre-cursor you need to kick off developing the application the next morning. I will tell you that until you work through all the validations, data requirements, flow, security, etc all your estimates will me moot. Take Brocade as an example. Where is the data coming from? How real time is it? How much EAI is involved. Is the data model existing? How about the SOA? What platform? How stringent is the security, etc. In any case, I wish I could give you a side of the barn estimate. This is why we push so hard for folks to push through the front-to-back LookFirst Model Design kind of approach to developing RIA's. We know they work and can point to real proof. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, michael457728 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me an idea how long it would take and what budget you would need to have an app like the Brocade link below developed? http://flexapps.macromedia.com/flex/brocade/app.mxml I realise that its a difficult question but I just want to get a gut feeling for the size of cash you would guys think it would need. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container??
You sure can't run it for free as he asked. ;) C Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89 Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:10 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container?? Yes you can. We've run it on about 4 different containers. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dudu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I run my flex application under any container(tomcat, jboss, websphere) for free??? Just putting the flex.jar in my lib folder ??? I think yes, because the examples.war that come with flex framework installer, I can deploy on any j2ee container... because it has a .jar with the classes needed in lib folder. thanks ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis: Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container??
Oh, yeah, missed that part wink. It works on free containers (Tomcat, JBoss, etc), but you need to pay Macromedia to deploy! -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Carson Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure can't run it for free as he asked. ;) C Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89 Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:10 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container?? Yes you can. We've run it on about 4 different containers. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dudu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I run my flex application under any container(tomcat, jboss, websphere) for free??? Just putting the flex.jar in my lib folder ??? I think yes, because the examples.war that come with flex framework installer, I can deploy on any j2ee container... because it has a .jar with the classes needed in lib folder. thanks ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis: Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare
Dave,Thanks again for the feedback. I'm trying to collect some live examples and some fodder to keep the interview going well when I pitch this whole package in a few weeks. I would love a link to provide my Attending. ManiOn 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely. Contact me via email and I will get that setup. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Would it be possible for me to provide my attending with access to that sanitized demo. I think he would enjoy seeing that in action. Thanks, Mani On 11/6/05, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was definitely worried about the HIPAA stuff. They beat that into our heads in medical school to the point of paranoia but it becomes even more important in this context. Mani On 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. And that's all as users they should care about! I'm not sure that makes healthcare users any different from every other user. All the more reason to focus on the user experience first, and use your engineering experience to implement a performant back-end. The RIA world gives you a lot more flexability to do that. On the healthcare side here in the U.S. HIPAA is a huge issue to keep in mind in terms of security and privacy. We did a lot with LifeCoach to manage security and privacy in a HIPAA world. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I built a dental clinic diagnose and image/mmedia management software once. the only things I could really say are quite obvious: - get to know the biz and the users. you will have to learn the processes involved to a good detail if you want to be a valid interlocutor. there's lots of new words... - release early and gather feedback ( go and get it, don't expect a written summary from a doctor ) - don't take feedback as-is, try to guide and educate users into accepting your ideas. health related professionals are quite hard headed and have been taught to do things in a very particular way ( I used to [almost] be one ), but if you get them to see the advantage they will understand... and all they look for is speed, clarity and ease of use. this might sound similar to dealing with eingeneering or business pros, but I must emphasize the particular way part. they are really different! most of them don't have a solid eingeneering foundation and miss some concepts that are obvious to most of us. so don't be afraid to presume that they don't know what they are talking about when they come and propose a database schema or some UI changes for the app. OTOH, they have strong communicational skills, so you can easily gather valuable use case stories if you know how to question them... - try and work with female, young nurses. I'm not sure why, but work becomes more fun. dont know if it helped but you sure brought back some memories. best, aldo On 11/6/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My learned lesson: plan for an alpha/beta site early. Building an internet deployed app is stupid if only 5% of hospitals in the country have internet access, and that 5% will not compensate for your development costs. Also, you can get away with things that are fluff; although the nurses who typically use healthcare like it for about a day, and then ask for it out of their way, they aren't the ones going to HIMMS, and writing the million dollar checks to purchase software. When competing with the likes of Kaiser Permente and others; many have the same functionality. To stand apart, you have to differentiate yourself, and Flex/Flash allows you to do that. It's easier to get the harmless Flash Player installed on a 6 month-to-build-client-box for a hospital than it is for the likes of .NET runtime, where you're likely be told to f'off. Use that to your advantage. - Original Message - From: Manuel Saint-Victor To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Requesting feedback from Flex developers with experience building healthcare applications Good evening, I'm looking for some feedback from some of the developers here. I'm curious about some of the ways that you have seen Flex used thus far in the development of applications for use in healthcare. I'm
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container??
aloha, in the remote case that you are just blogging your app... or the timeframe of your project is big enough, then consider using flex2 and it's serverless deployment model. cheaper, easier, nicer. best, aldo On 11/6/05, Dave Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, yeah, missed that part wink. It works on free containers (Tomcat, JBoss, etc), but you need to pay Macromedia to deploy! -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Carson Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure can't run it for free as he asked. ;) C Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89 Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:10 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Can I run flex on any container?? Yes you can. We've run it on about 4 different containers. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dudu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I run my flex application under any container(tomcat, jboss, websphere) for free??? Just putting the flex.jar in my lib folder ??? I think yes, because the examples.war that come with flex framework installer, I can deploy on any j2ee container... because it has a .jar with the classes needed in lib folder. thanks ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis: Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- : Aldo Bucchi : mobile (56) 8 429 8300 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy
I just participated a Micosoft SQL Server 2005 introduction by Microsoft and they clearly emphasizes that Microsoft counts a dual core processor as a single processor on licenses. So that paragraph is outdated. -Mika From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of João Fernandes Sent: 4. marraskuuta 2005 13:00 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy I must be missunderstanding it but the Licensing paragraph says and I quote: However, the trend seems to be counting dual-core chips as a single processor as Microsoft, IBM, Intel, and AMD support this view. Oracle was counting each core as a processor but came up with a formula that is a compromise. IBM and Microsoft count a multi-chip-module as multiple processors. If multi-chip-modules counted as one processor then CPU makers would have an incentive to make large expensive multi-chip-modules so their customers saved on software licensing. So it seems like the industry is heading towards counting each die as a processor, no matter how many cores each die has ... What I can understand from this paragraph is that companies are targeting the number of dies and not the n of cores inside them. João Fernandes Secção de Desenvolvimento Departamento de Informática From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 16:25 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy I disagree... for all interpretations of thedefinitionat wikipediait results in the same conclusion... a dual-core cpu is 2 cpu's/processors. That's the point. A mobo with one dual core processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 separate processors. All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one die. It's 2 cpu's. On 11/3/05, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clint, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core Its seems that it depends on the point of view. What are we counting? the chip? or independent cores inside a chip? It seems that many are counting the chip himself no matter how many individual cores they have. It's up to Macromedia what's their point of view. João Fernandes Secção de Desenvolvimento Departamento de Informática From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 15:47 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two virutal processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would consider dual core as 2 processors. On 11/3/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ? I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure that Macromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical* processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just be one processor. Regards, Dave. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex
