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[flexcoders] Flex and AIR on Mobile Platforms

2011-11-12 Thread e_val_soft
I'd like to understand more about Adobe's latest annnouncement that they will 
focus on HTML5 on mobile platforms(rather than Flash).

Obviously a kick in the head for flex/air developers targetting applications 
that need or want a mobile client because mobile platform manufacturers will 
drop Flash (in a flash) from their product plans.

I've seen some mixed messages - Adobe's version which is just a change in focus 
while the industry reads it like a Flash obituary.  Here are two bullets from 
Adobe's announcement:
--from Adobe.com

•Shifting resources to support even greater investment in HTML5, through tools 
like Adobe® Dreamweaver,  Adobe Edge and PhoneGap, recently added through the 
acquisition of  Nitobi
  
•Focusing Flash resources on delivering the most advanced PC web experiences, 
including gaming and premium video, as well as mobile apps
--
I can almost see them sitting around the board room table debating whether to 
stick that , as well as mobile apps on the end of bullet 2 just to leave 
people like us (Flex developers I mean) confused.  Pretend you're a Samsung or 
Motorola executive planning the next release of your latest mobile device.  Do 
we spend $10 million and 40 developers integrating Flash?

Since the vast majority of new, innovative applications involve incorporation 
or embracing of mobile clients, Flash's ubiquity, which is/was its greatest 
selling point, is gone.  I mean when Jobs took a stand to ban Flash from iOS - 
that was a phaser blast to the holodeck, but this...this is a photon torpedo to 
the bridge.

Am I reading this wrong, or should I be starting my new HTML5 career now?  I 
mean once flash is gone from mobile, it is gone as a general web application 
framework so forget those desktop focused applications too, except some 
specialized graphics oriented apps.

I think of what I'm developing now on Flex and it would be years away from 
possible with HTML5 but maybe I should be focusing on HTML5 plus one of the 
better JavaScript frameworks?

I'm really looking for some opinions here about what flex developers think of 
the near term future based on this announcement.  It'd be great to hear some 
Adobe employee perspectives (probably on gag order) but anyone with some 
insight, please do tell.  I'd love to be told I'm exaggerating the consequence 
of the announcement





Re: [flexcoders] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 ?

2011-11-12 Thread Csomák Gábor
it depends on the app. for ex. my app, sharedboard.net runs smooth even on
iPad..

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM, saurabh rawat rawatsaur...@yahoo.co.inwrote:



 y it doesnt work fast??Any thoughts??
 will it be good to use the flex AIR for adobe to build app on it or the
 usual Android.I think it has Honeycomb 3.1 update and even Android is going
 to provide some queit good pretty fast flavors in Rich UI development.Your
 thougths?
 Rgds,
 Saurabh


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 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 ?
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, 11 November, 2011, 9:30 PM




 we did it , it didnt work pretty fast but its just a prototype

 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:32 AM, 
 f...@guitar-learning.comhttp://mc/compose?to=f...@guitar-learning.com
  wrote:



 I just did a prototype app for a galaxy 10.1 and it worked nicely.



 -D



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 i don't have one, but its definitely possible.



 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:02 AM, markflex2007 
 markflex2...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=markflex2...@yahoo.com
 wrote:



 Does any one develop Air app on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 before?

 our client plan to develop tablet app on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 ,I just
 want to make sure it is possble.

 Thanks for help

 Mark





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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and AIR on Mobile Platforms

2011-11-12 Thread DP
The way I read the announcement is that they're pulling back from Flash for the 
web, not Flex or Air.  Flash for the web are flash apps built such that they 
can be included in a web page.  Even though Flex is essentially that, it is 
much different from Flash.  Considering AIR is actually a separate package as 
well, I'm guessing they're not going to pull back from either one of those.

Also, as I read it, AIR Mobile was something they were continuing with.  That 
makes sense to me as AIR is not embedded like Flash is - it's a full blown 
implementation.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, e_val_soft dannyvenier@... wrote:

 I'd like to understand more about Adobe's latest annnouncement that they will 
 focus on HTML5 on mobile platforms(rather than Flash).
 
 Obviously a kick in the head for flex/air developers targetting applications 
 that need or want a mobile client because mobile platform manufacturers will 
 drop Flash (in a flash) from their product plans.
 
 I've seen some mixed messages - Adobe's version which is just a change in 
 focus while the industry reads it like a Flash obituary.  Here are two 
 bullets from Adobe's announcement:
 --from Adobe.com
 
 •Shifting resources to support even greater investment in HTML5, through 
 tools like Adobe® Dreamweaver,  Adobe Edge and PhoneGap, recently added 
 through the acquisition of  Nitobi
   
 •Focusing Flash resources on delivering the most advanced PC web experiences, 
 including gaming and premium video, as well as mobile apps
 --
 I can almost see them sitting around the board room table debating whether to 
 stick that , as well as mobile apps on the end of bullet 2 just to leave 
 people like us (Flex developers I mean) confused.  Pretend you're a Samsung 
 or Motorola executive planning the next release of your latest mobile device. 
  Do we spend $10 million and 40 developers integrating Flash?
 
 Since the vast majority of new, innovative applications involve incorporation 
 or embracing of mobile clients, Flash's ubiquity, which is/was its greatest 
 selling point, is gone.  I mean when Jobs took a stand to ban Flash from iOS 
 - that was a phaser blast to the holodeck, but this...this is a photon 
 torpedo to the bridge.
 
 Am I reading this wrong, or should I be starting my new HTML5 career now?  I 
 mean once flash is gone from mobile, it is gone as a general web application 
 framework so forget those desktop focused applications too, except some 
 specialized graphics oriented apps.
 
 I think of what I'm developing now on Flex and it would be years away from 
 possible with HTML5 but maybe I should be focusing on HTML5 plus one of the 
 better JavaScript frameworks?
 
 I'm really looking for some opinions here about what flex developers think of 
 the near term future based on this announcement.  It'd be great to hear some 
 Adobe employee perspectives (probably on gag order) but anyone with some 
 insight, please do tell.  I'd love to be told I'm exaggerating the 
 consequence of the announcement





Re: [flexcoders] Flex and AIR on Mobile Platforms

2011-11-12 Thread Guy Morton
I think the only thing you should draw from this announcement is that Adobe has 
given up on trying to support  flash as a browser plugin on mobile devices. I 
think they have seen that a) performance is an issue they may struggle to fix 
while maintaining compatibility and b) there is market resistance to plugins on 
mobile platforms (see the Windows 8 Metro plugin-less IE as the final domino 
to fall there).

Flash is now in decline as a plugin technology. It will continue for a good few 
years yet, but it is trending downwards. Because its life as a plugin is 
drawing to an end, Adobe is seeking to reshape Flash as an app-building tool. 
This makes perfect sense, and if they do it well, they could manage to make an 
army of Flash/flex developers into app developers, which is not all bad.

Adobe has read the writing on the wall and is putting a lot of effort into 
re-shaping themselves as the tool provider for HTML5. Certainly there is a need 
for great tools in this area, so I hope they succeed in doing this.

Also, you might note with interest their purchase of nitobi, who make PhoneGap. 

Guy


On 13/11/2011, at 1:56 AM, e_val_soft wrote:

 I'd like to understand more about Adobe's latest annnouncement that they will 
 focus on HTML5 on mobile platforms(rather than Flash).
 
 Obviously a kick in the head for flex/air developers targetting applications 
 that need or want a mobile client because mobile platform manufacturers will 
 drop Flash (in a flash) from their product plans.
 
 I've seen some mixed messages - Adobe's version which is just a change in 
 focus while the industry reads it like a Flash obituary. Here are two bullets 
 from Adobe's announcement:
 --from Adobe.com
 
 •Shifting resources to support even greater investment in HTML5, through 
 tools like Adobe® Dreamweaver, Adobe Edge and PhoneGap, recently added 
 through the acquisition of Nitobi
 
 •Focusing Flash resources on delivering the most advanced PC web experiences, 
 including gaming and premium video, as well as mobile apps
 --
 I can almost see them sitting around the board room table debating whether to 
 stick that , as well as mobile apps on the end of bullet 2 just to leave 
 people like us (Flex developers I mean) confused. Pretend you're a Samsung or 
 Motorola executive planning the next release of your latest mobile device. Do 
 we spend $10 million and 40 developers integrating Flash?
 
 Since the vast majority of new, innovative applications involve incorporation 
 or embracing of mobile clients, Flash's ubiquity, which is/was its greatest 
 selling point, is gone. I mean when Jobs took a stand to ban Flash from iOS - 
 that was a phaser blast to the holodeck, but this...this is a photon torpedo 
 to the bridge.
 
 Am I reading this wrong, or should I be starting my new HTML5 career now? I 
 mean once flash is gone from mobile, it is gone as a general web application 
 framework so forget those desktop focused applications too, except some 
 specialized graphics oriented apps.
 
 I think of what I'm developing now on Flex and it would be years away from 
 possible with HTML5 but maybe I should be focusing on HTML5 plus one of the 
 better JavaScript frameworks?
 
 I'm really looking for some opinions here about what flex developers think of 
 the near term future based on this announcement. It'd be great to hear some 
 Adobe employee perspectives (probably on gag order) but anyone with some 
 insight, please do tell. I'd love to be told I'm exaggerating the consequence 
 of the announcement