Re: [flexcoders] Which AIR SDK to use with Flex?

[Mark Jonkman mark.jonk...@comcast.net [flexcoders]]

If you can also add the command line option -useLegacyAOT yes to make sure. The 
issues with new compiler 'fast compiler' seem to be with overridden methods not 
having same number of parameters and using swcs compiled with older versions of 
the compiler. So your mileage may vary from mine or others depending on your 
project.

My project is huge so it would take hours to unwind issues caused by the fast 
compiler. Though my iOS builds which average 30min went down to 15 min with new 
compiler.

Mark

> On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "Dave Glasser dglas...@pobox.com [flexcoders]" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mark, thanks for the reply. 
> 
> I don't use Flex builder, just Apache ant and the Flex and AIR SDKs. I was 
> able to build the Flex/iOS app with both versions of the 15.0.0.302 SDK in 
> their default configurations, so I guess the one with the new compiler uses 
> the old one by default. (At least from the command line.)  I'm going to stick 
> with the SDK without the new compiler though, just to be on the safe side.
> 
> 
> On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:39 AM, "'Mark R. Jonkman' 
> mark.jonk...@comcast.net [flexcoders]"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I’m guessing it mostly has to do with mxml compiling. The old compiler would 
> have to handle both types of input – ActionScript and MXML and generate 
> ActionScript code based on the MXML and then generate the final product. If 
> your Adobe and you no longer support MXML yourself then there is no reason to 
> keep it around in future generations of the compiler – especially where speed 
> becomes an issue.
>  
> I hit a lot of problems this week with the new fast compiler. AIR SDK 15 
> switched from using the legacy compiler to the new fast compiler as its 
> default compiler. My project uses just a small portion of the FLEX framework 
> – just enough stuff to connect with the backend server running BlazeDS and 
> sending stuff over AMF. As a matter of fact we actually put the classes we 
> used into our own project and as far as we knew, no longer linked against any 
> of the Flex framework SWCs. However after the switch to the new AIR SDK 15 
> the project started blowing chunks. It would not find about 8 interfaces and 
> classes from the Flex framework.  Eventually I traced it down to possible 
> being the swc cache that Flash Builder stores in the workspace .metadata 
> folder (I think). I deleted all the files in the swc  cache and the errors 
> finally went away. It took hours to track that down. Then I finally got the 
> project compile into an iOS IPA file and installed it on my iPad – crash 
> after a few seconds of running. AIR simulator no problem, iOS Simulator no 
> problem. But a debug or release runtime and crash.. Then I realized that they 
> had changed the default compiler to the fast, switched back to the legacy AOT 
> compiler and everything worked perfectly.
>  
> Unfortunately if iOS is your target you have almost no choice but to upgrade 
> to AIR SDK 15. Apple changed the requirements for uploading and all the old 
> SDKs will not produce an IPA that will be accepted (unless you experiment 
> with changing the linker and that sounded more like Voodoo then a long term 
> solution). And the AIR SDK must be the one from at least Oct 14, 2014.
>  
> If you did not already know – The AIR SDK is located in two places one is the 
> Flash Builder 4.7/eclipse/plugin folder (Used by ActionScript projects) and 
> the other is in the Flash Builder 4.7/sdks folder. The plugin folder is for 
> ActionScript only projects and the other in the sdk folder is for Flex 
> projects. At least as near as I can determine.
>  
> I would download the default AIR SDK to use with any ActionScript projects – 
> it’s the SDK that gets put into the eclipse/plugin/actionscript compiler…. 
> Location.
>  
> For Flex projects, download the alternative and drop it into the sdks/4.6.0 
> folder in Flash Builder.
>  
> This way you have both compilers setup and useable based on the type of 
> project your working on.
>  
> If you hit the same situation I did with iOS output, then on the project 
> settings, iOS settings – click customize launch button, click add parameter, 
> enter –useLegacyAOT for name and for value enter yes. Then click the before.. 
> radio button and choose –provisioning_profile (or something like that). I 
> don’t have my work computer open so I might be off on a couple of name of the 
> before radio button and the entery in the drop down list – but it’s the only 
> entry with provision profile or similar in the name.
>  
> Sincerely
> Mark R. Jonkman
>  
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:40 PM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Which AIR SDK to use with Flex? [1 Attachment]
>  
> [Attachment(s) from Dave Glasser included below] 
> 
> 
>  
> From the PDF I gather that you can't build Flex apps with the AIR SDK, which 
> makes sense. But the notice o

Re: [flexcoders] Which AIR SDK to use with Flex?

[Dave Glasser dglas...@pobox.com [flexcoders]]

Mark, thanks for the reply. 

I don't use Flex builder, just Apache ant and the Flex and AIR SDKs. I was able 
to build the Flex/iOS app with both versions of the 15.0.0.302 SDK in their 
default configurations, so I guess the one with the new compiler uses the old 
one by default. (At least from the command line.)  I'm going to stick with the 
SDK without the new compiler though, just to be on the safe side.
 

 On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:39 AM, "'Mark R. Jonkman' 
mark.jonk...@comcast.net [flexcoders]"  wrote:
   

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I’m guessing it mostly has to do with mxml compiling. The old compiler would 
have to handle both types of input – ActionScript and MXML and generate 
ActionScript code based on the MXML and then generate the final product. If 
your Adobe and you no longer support MXML yourself then there is no reason to 
keep it around in future generations of the compiler – especially where speed 
becomes an issue.   I hit a lot of problems this week with the new fast 
compiler. AIR SDK 15 switched from using the legacy compiler to the new fast 
compiler as its default compiler. My project uses just a small portion of the 
FLEX framework – just enough stuff to connect with the backend server running 
BlazeDS and sending stuff over AMF. As a matter of fact we actually put the 
classes we used into our own project and as far as we knew, no longer linked 
against any of the Flex framework SWCs. However after the switch to the new AIR 
SDK 15 the project started blowing chunks. It would not find about 8 interfaces 
and classes from the Flex framework.  Eventually I traced it down to possible 
being the swc cache that Flash Builder stores in the workspace .metadata folder 
(I think). I deleted all the files in the swc  cache and the errors finally 
went away. It took hours to track that down. Then I finally got the project 
compile into an iOS IPA file and installed it on my iPad – crash after a few 
seconds of running. AIR simulator no problem, iOS Simulator no problem. But a 
debug or release runtime and crash.. Then I realized that they had changed the 
default compiler to the fast, switched back to the legacy AOT compiler

RE: [flexcoders] Which AIR SDK to use with Flex?

['Mark R. Jonkman' mark.jonk...@comcast.net [flexcoders]]

I’m guessing it mostly has to do with mxml compiling. The old compiler would 
have to handle both types of input – ActionScript and MXML and generate 
ActionScript code based on the MXML and then generate the final product. If 
your Adobe and you no longer support MXML yourself then there is no reason to 
keep it around in future generations of the compiler – especially where speed 
becomes an issue. 

 

I hit a lot of problems this week with the new fast compiler. AIR SDK 15 
switched from using the legacy compiler to the new fast compiler as its default 
compiler. My project uses just a small portion of the FLEX framework – just 
enough stuff to connect with the backend server running BlazeDS and sending 
stuff over AMF. As a matter of fact we actually put the classes we used into 
our own project and as far as we knew, no longer linked against any of the Flex 
framework SWCs. However after the switch to the new AIR SDK 15 the project 
started blowing chunks. It would not find about 8 interfaces and classes from 
the Flex framework.  Eventually I traced it down to possible being the swc 
cache that Flash Builder stores in the workspace .metadata folder (I think). I 
deleted all the files in the swc  cache and the errors finally went away. It 
took hours to track that down. Then I finally got the project compile into an 
iOS IPA file and installed it on my iPad – crash after a few seconds of 
running. AIR simulator no problem, iOS Simulator no problem. But a debug or 
release runtime and crash.. Then I realized that they had changed the default 
compiler to the fast, switched back to the legacy AOT compiler and everything 
worked perfectly. 

 

Unfortunately if iOS is your target you have almost no choice but to upgrade to 
AIR SDK 15. Apple changed the requirements for uploading and all the old SDKs 
will not produce an IPA that will be accepted (unless you experiment with 
changing the linker and that sounded more like Voodoo then a long term 
solution). And the AIR SDK must be the one from at least Oct 14, 2014. 

 

If you did not already know – The AIR SDK is located in two places one is the 
Flash Builder 4.7/eclipse/plugin folder (Used by ActionScript projects) and the 
other is in the Flash Builder 4.7/sdks folder. The plugin folder is for 
ActionScript only projects and the other in the sdk folder is for Flex 
projects. At least as near as I can determine.

 

I would download the default AIR SDK to use with any ActionScript projects – 
it’s the SDK that gets put into the eclipse/plugin/actionscript compiler…. 
Location.

 

For Flex projects, download the alternative and drop it into the sdks/4.6.0 
folder in Flash Builder. 

 

This way you have both compilers setup and useable based on the type of project 
your working on.

 

If you hit the same situation I did with iOS output, then on the project 
settings, iOS settings – click customize launch button, click add parameter, 
enter –useLegacyAOT for name and for value enter yes. Then click the before.. 
radio button and choose –provisioning_profile (or something like that). I don’t 
have my work computer open so I might be off on a couple of name of the before 
radio button and the entery in the drop down list – but it’s the only entry 
with provision profile or similar in the name.

 

Sincerely
Mark R. Jonkman

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:40 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Which AIR SDK to use with Flex? [1 Attachment]

 

[Attachment(s) from Dave Glasser included below] 




 

>From the PDF I gather that you can't build Flex apps with the AIR SDK, which 
>makes sense. But the notice on the page suggests that you should not package 
>Flex Apps as AIR apps using the full AIR SDK, but rather the stripped down AIR 
>SDK. I tried using the ADT from the full AIR SDK to package my Flex app for 
>iOS and it works. So I'm wondering why Adobe has a separate AIR SDK for Flex 
>apps. I wouldn't think the minor difference in download file sizes would be 
>the sole reason.

 

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:20 PM, "John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk 
[flexcoders]"  wrote:

 

[  
Attachment(s) from John McCormack included below] 

The link "Read the ActionScript Compiler 2.0 (PDF, 20Kb) 

 file"
explains that "... it does not support 

mxmlc

compc

compiling Flex applications"

Maybe its because some of Flex code is now run by Apache Foundation.

John

On 23/10/2014 16:26, Dave Glasser dglas...@pobox.com [flexcoders] wrote:

On the download page for the AIR SDK:

 

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air-sdk-download.html

 

 

It says:

 

Note: Flex users will need to download the original AIR SDK without the new 
compiler.

 

and provides separate li