Re: [flexcoders] How to install multiple Flash Player versions?

2005-08-16 Thread John Dowdell
Brett Palmer wrote:
 I'm trying to profile a flex application.  What is the easiest way to
 run and install multiple Flash player versions?  I'm interested in
 running Flash 7, Flash 7 debug, and Flash 8.

Any particular browser and operating system? (I think there's a 
plugin-switching extension for Firefox now... for IE/Win, it's extended 
by system-level extensions which can be trickier to replace on the fly.)

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Re: [flexcoders] flex and third party search engines

2005-09-27 Thread John Dowdell
Nithya R wrote:
 i would like to know if flex supports any third party search engines like 
 mondosearch etc... .net supports mondosearch , likewise what are the search 
 engines that flex supports...

When you say support, what do you mean?

I think Matt may have read this as is static text in a Flex SWF read by 
search engines, and results are mixed here... some engines definitely 
read it, as you can prove at Google by searching on checkout 
filetype:swf or similar terms.

But if you're looking to offer local search within your own work, then a 
lot depends on whether your text is stored in the SWF or in a database 
or web service, what type of interface you'd like to display results in, 
etc.

Or if you're looking to issue a standard web search from within a Flex 
presentation, then that can be as easy as constructing an URL.

When you say support, what do you mean? If you'd like to offer a 
search form within your presentation, then what would you like it to 
search...?

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Re: [flexcoders] flex and third party search engines[john dowdell.. anybody...]

2005-09-29 Thread John Dowdell
Nithya R wrote:
 say i have a flex site for online shopping... i need a search feature for 
 the products... say i type the product name and it should fetch me the 
 details about the product and all the links associated to it... so for this i 
 need a search engine to be integrated with the flex site... how can i do this?

Well, if the details are regular HTML pages then it's usually easy to 
call up a regular websearch engine to get to that page... a button can 
go to http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amystore.com+; with your 
search terms after, for instance.

But if the data you want to return is in a database rather than a series 
of HTML files, then you'd submit a query to your database to get the 
info you're seeking, then display it in whichever way your project desires.

I'm not sure I could answer, because a lot depends on where the data is, 
when it gets turned into a display, how you'd like to search... 
different projects seem like they'd pursue different paths here...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Will browsers support FlashPlayer in the future?

2005-10-09 Thread John Dowdell
Aldo Bucchi wrote:
 Is there a chance that any major browser might simply cut support for
 the Flash Player Plugin at some point?

Anything's possible, but I do know that daily adoption of new Macromedia 
Flash Player greatly outweighs the new adoption of any browser or 
operating system.

Here's the list of current distribution partners:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/partners/

Here's a recent comparison of XP adoption rates:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_XP_Adoption_Rates_Slow/1118943913
 Summary: In June05 WinXP had risen to 38% of enterprise use, 
compared to 48% for Win2000, in the years after XP's release in 2001. 
(In comparison, Macromedia Flash Player has historically hit 80% 
adoption within a year, and will likely quicken in the future with new 
auto-update.)

Being included in default OS and browser installations is great, 
naturally, but consumers update their Flash capabilities much more 
quickly than they update their browsing or system capabilities.

Do you feel that this information will be useful for your client...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Manipulating SVG

2005-10-23 Thread John Dowdell
Dave H wrote:
 Can anyone point me to any useful resources on manipulating SVG from 
 within Flex?  I'd like to be able to highlight different parts of an 
 image at the click of a button.

This is interesting. I was hoping someone else had a better answer than 
what I've currently got, but didn't want to leave it unanswered too.

Let me make sure I'm correctly understanding what you'd like to do... it 
seems like there's some external mapping source which can give you a 
series of irregular polygons, with stroke/fill colors, in SVG format. 
You'd like these to display in the final SWF delivered to the audience, 
and would like to be able to programmatically change stroke/fill colors 
in response to user activity. Am I seeing the problem correctly here?


If so, then I see two other possible paths, in addition to the 
mx:Image/ path you mentioned, but I'm not sure which of these are 
viable paths, and hope that other people can expand on these.

1)  Use a standalone SVG-SWF serverside utility to turn the mapping 
service's output into something very easily usable by the Macromedia 
Flash Player clientside renderer.
 (Some exist, but it would take some research to learn how closely 
current candidates match this project's needs.)

2)  Have the Flex server request and translate the SVG data into the 
final SWF, where each polygon is still individually addressable.
 (Other people on this list know more than me here.)

3)  Have the Macromedia Flash Player request the raw SVG data, and use 
procedural drawing to render and then manipulate the polygons.
 (ActionScript and the Drawing API have been used to render basic 
SVG files before... a search term wahlers triolo svg pulls up citations.)


Are any of the above paths of interest...?

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Re: [flexcoders] AJAX vs Flex whitepaper?? anyone??

2005-10-27 Thread John Dowdell
Aldo Bucchi wrote:
 I'm looking for a business and technical level whitepaper that
 develops on the differences and similarities between flex and AJAX. It
 is for a customer that is evaluating both techs for a series of
 applications.

Whitepapers usually espouse a point of view, so a lot would depend on 
the point of view you'd like to espouse.  ;-)

(I don't recall a Macromedia-authored whitepaper on the subject, and I'd 
be a little leery of one if so... whenever a vendor discusses Someone 
Else's Technology there's usually significant pushback, as the example 
cited here clearly shows:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/10/comparing_web_t.cfm )

Do you know what types of questions the client has, what concerns they 
have? Focusing on their immediate needs may be more targeted than 
looking for one of potentially scores of general papers out there.

(For instance, some good tacks are to see what types of data they'd want 
to transfer without resending the HTML page, whether images, or text, or 
something more... which browsers the audience currently uses and how 
many would have to be either abandoned or persuaded to use a different 
browser... whether it's one-shot development or whether the project 
might have to be maintained and upgraded in the future... these are some 
of the criteria on which technologies can vary.)

Of course, if you've got a CIO who says Let's use X! without first 
analyzing and being able to succinctly describe the problem, then that's 
usually a bit of a mess from the start, eh...?  ;-)

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Re: [flexcoders] Big problems with SBC Yahoo Browser

2005-11-02 Thread John Dowdell
TIP: Hit New Message when you want to start a new message, then paste 
the mailing list address in. (When you hit Reply while reading Matt's 
message, you got hidden within that thread about minutes-long scripting 
routines.)

Robert Thompson wrote:
 Since there are some smart guys from Macrmedia on here
 I wanted to just ask if they've heard any complaints
 about Flash Player 8 not working in SBC Yahoo Browser?

I haven't. I did a quick web search, but the Yahoo help section doesn't 
say which browser it's built upon, nor list anything quickly visible 
about Netscape Plugins (or ActiveX Controls, if based on IE/Win).

Best troubleshooting: Do the usual some-or-all-sites test (if they can 
see other SWF but not your SWF that's a clue)... after that it would be 
researching just what the SBC Yahoo Browser actually is, and what it can do.

(I just expanded my websearches from Yahoo to the net at large, and some 
users report that it is built upon IE/Win, which raises the 
possibilities of XP SP2 controls, popup window controls, or general 
permissions issues for new installs... try the some or all browsers 
test to see if your site works in IE/Win on their machine, etc.)

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Re: [flexcoders] PDA

2005-11-04 Thread John Dowdell
Howard, Dave wrote:
 has anyone successfully depolyed a Flex 2 app to a PDA running Pocket
 PC?  Can this be done?

Not yet. The alpha Flex 2 uses the alpha Macromedia Flash Player 8.5 -- 
even desktop browsers aren't at this level of support yet. Pocket 
devices are usually a few versions back:
http://www.macromedia.com/mobile/supported_devices/pda.html

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Re: [flexcoders] Flash vunerability

2006-03-15 Thread John Dowdell
Jonathan Miranda wrote:
 Anyone know if this affects Flash player 8.5 beta?
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/apsb06-03.html

Beta already has file-locking built in. The release yesterday covered 
8.0 and 7.0 generations (for those on older OS), and the various 
dependencies (Breeze, Shockwave, etc).

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 2 Beta - Wrong Flash Player Version?

2006-03-16 Thread John Dowdell
Jordan Snyder wrote:
 Yeah that's about right!  So have you been able to resolve anything at
 all?  I can obviously compile, so I can move it to another machine or
 something...but this is debilitating really!  I'm super pissed, who
 can I complain to?  OH right, it's BETA.  Damn.

I had read the prior description but wasn't sure what the question was 
and so passed onto other matters. Your post above doesn't help me turn 
the description into an answerable question either.

Maybe it's something like What could happen if I install this week's 
8.0x Player above my 8.5 beta Player? or If I blew away my 8.5 with a 
new 8.0x then how can I get the beta back? One answer along these 
general lines is that the uninstaller is now required to remove the new 
version-locked Player. I'm not sure whether this is the core question 
though.

Have you checked the technotes listed in my original blog entry on the 
subject, particularly the one about unlocking?
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/03/players_v8024_v.cfm
http://www.macromedia.com/go/14157

My apologies if I didn't get the right question out of the descriptions 
though... I might be way offbase.

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Re: [flexcoders] how to install flash player8.5 automatically when flex 2.0 application is running on client system

2006-03-24 Thread John Dowdell
venkat eswar wrote:
 hi,
   i am new user of flex2.0
   flex2.0  requires flash player 8.5 when it runs application.
   it is not realible  to install flash player8.5 on all client systems
   SO ,PLZ GIVE SUGGESTIONS FOR how to install flash player8.5 automatically  
 when flex 2.0 application is running on client system.

I'm not sure of latest specifics, but I do know that in general it's 
best not to saddle consumers with preview or beta bits.

I think your best approach at this point would be to indicate, in text, 
that early client approvals of that beta content would need to 
temporarily install the beta Player, and provide a link to the download 
and its instructions.

Once this generation is locked down and enters general public 
distribution it will be much easier to auto-update their Players. In the 
meantime, each person installing the software needs to know exactly what 
the implications are, so going through the formal beta install gateway 
is best.

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Re: [flexcoders] New IE Update puts huge Selector Around Flash Movies / Netscape, Opera Nor Firefox do this

2006-04-10 Thread John Dowdell
Robert Thompson wrote:
 I just updated my IE explorer, and unless something else is going on, now 
 Internet Explorer puts a
 huge selector around any FLEX/Flash Movies -- I mean on ANY site and I've 
 been to many already.
 Has anyone else experienced this when updating their IE ???

Macromedia staff have been covering this before it arose in public 
awareness, and had the first human-friendly documentation on it... 
latest versions here:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/

Ongoing news:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mtadmin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=28search=eolas
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Re: [flexcoders] Yahoo! Maps gets satellite hybrid.

2006-04-12 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 Can play with it here:
 http://maps.yahoo.com/beta
 [lots of links snipped]
 Feedback welcome as always.

Great stuff, Clint, thanks for the links... if folks here do Flex 
experimentation on this API it would be great to collect the examples as 
inspiration for others, thanks in advance.

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Re: [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread John Dowdell
Hi, I'm sorry you're not happy, and I'd like to pursue this. But to 
follow up on this internally I'd need to at least know your name and 
business group.

(Staffers here don't usually have the bandwidth to analyze customer 
projects, so I'm assuming there was some type of business relationship 
involved, some type of contractual clause for mutual satisfaction.)

I'm not sure what I can do yet... can you add some functional detail so 
I can try to help...?

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Re: [flexcoders] labs.abobe.com redirect??

2006-04-25 Thread John Dowdell



True. There are *many* redirects being edited each day now, in advance 
of the next phase of adobe.com/mm.com integration. One of the redirects 
in last night's bunch was wrong, and got propagated out to some external 
servers. The cause in this case is fixed, but may take awhile to 
propagate out through all servers. I'd anticipate other little temporary 
oddities over the next few weeks as this massive piece of integration 
work enters its final stages.

One tactic for emergencies, whenever an URL doesn't resolve properly, is 
to hit Google's cache on the subject.

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Re: [flexcoders] SVG as Image source at runtime in Flex 2.0?

2006-04-26 Thread John Dowdell



Summary: Possible lead, but still theoretical today.

Matt Chotin wrote:
 I'd like to be able to set an Image source to an SVG
 URL at runtime.

 No, SVG support unfortunately is only when you embed.

Sidenote: People *have* done work at retrieving, parsing and rendering 
SVG instructions within the Flash Player itself, via a SWF file with 
special drawing instructions. (This is a subset of the SVG spec, like 
all other SVG renderers, but each renderer does a different subset of 
the spec.) I don't know if/how you could integrate this into a 
Flex-authored SWF, but search term triolo wahlers svg brings up 
references, if that's of interest.

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Re: [flexcoders] OpenGL vs DirectX / Vista vs. Flash Player 9 MS comments about Flash re Vista

2006-04-28 Thread John Dowdell



As Jesse noted, the Shockwave Player's 3D engine can take advantage of 
hardware acceleration (if available) for its realtime rendering, and 
over half of all consumers tested already have this ability on their 
machines. SWF files also integrate nicely into Shockwave work.

(The new Acrobat 3D also has a realtime 3D rendering engine, and I 
believe it can take advantage of any available hardware acceleration, 
but I'd have to doublecheck that last detail. SWF integration is 
possible now, but I expect will improve further in the future.)


 yes, but if you can run flash in director, you should be able to run
 director in flash.

No, Shockwave Player has a extensibility mechanism and can accommodate 
additional renderers, but this is part of why the download size is 
larger, adoption rate slower. (Oh, I see, reading more of the thread, 
Jesse covered that too, I need more coffee ;-)


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Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 on Linux?

2006-05-03 Thread John Dowdell



Carlos Rovira wrote:
 Thanks for the link. I saw it when Tinic wrote at the end of the year, 
 and I
 was looking for some more fresh info.

Tinic's post was the last public guidance I recall too. I'll try to 
catch Tinic or Emmy in-cube today, though, see what options we can 
pursue on this here in May.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 on Linux?

2006-05-03 Thread John Dowdell



I got a little more context on this... things seem same as before, with 
Player 9 expected Mac/Win within the next little bit, and the Linux 
Player 9 will take additional time beyond that. Staff are working on it 
now, but I won't expect to see finer-grained guidance until the next 
milestone gets hit... indeterminate for me now. But it's still looking 
like there will be a Player 9 for mainstream Linux just a few months 
after Mac/Win hits.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 on Linux?

2006-05-03 Thread John Dowdell



Carlos Rovira wrote:
 With that info we can give some arguments to our clients saying that we'll
 have the linux player a few months after the win/mac release

Cool... only caveat I'd have would be we *expect* to have it a few 
months later, by all current indications... until stuff actually ships 
I tend to reserve judgment, but from what I myself see and hear now, 
everything does still look good for Linux Player ports within a few 
months of Mac/Win getting finalized.

Best laid plans..., I guess that's my concern here, could be an 
earthquake in San Francisco perish-the-thought

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Apps and Google/Search Engines

2006-05-16 Thread John Dowdell



 On 5/12/06, Simon Fifield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have any information or links about how successful Google and other search engine bots are at crawling Flex Apps?

For crawling I'm guessing this is find the data within a SWF app. 
But much of the data is not in the SWF, and is instead in a database or 
other repository which is called at runtime. I'm not certain what you're 
hoping that the search engines would find.

Search engines do best with locating static things with an URL... for a 
classic ColdFusion-style data merge people often create duplicate static 
pages if they want the database contents to be searchable via the 
standard engines.

The better path is usually to have a number of external resources 
pointing to your hosting document, with anchor text used the search 
terms under which you'd like people to find you. Rephrased, raw body 
text is sometimes useful as search hits, but it's the inbound links 
which really control the ranking.

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Re: [flexcoders] Mac equivalent of ActiveX

2006-07-14 Thread John Dowdell
FineLine wrote:
 Hi, I have a question for the Mac experts. On Windows, I can embed a
 component written in Flex into a host application using the Shockwave Flash
 ActiveX object, and communicate with it using various method calls and
 events. Is there any equivalent mechanism(s) on the Macintosh?

Sorry I'm late to the discussion... here's a couple of things you might 
be seeking:

(Q)  Is there a Mac ActiveX?
(A)  There was, but few used it, and IE/Mac was abandoned by Microsoft 
awhile back.

(Q)  Can I add a browser extension to my native-code Macintosh 
applications?
(A)  Yes, if you can emulate the Netscape Plugin hosting mechanism.

(Q)  Is there a protocol for Netscape Plugins to communicate with their 
host, on Macintosh?
(A)  Yes, the Adobe Flash Player uses a generic externalInterface 
wrapper layer for using various host communication protocols, and for 
the Netscape Plugin protocol you'd be implementing this API:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/npruntime.html

(Q)  How can I render Flash within native-code applications across 
platforms?
(A)  Via the above path, but it's a lot of work to write one native-code 
application, much less multiple ones which integrate platform-neutral 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flash 9/AS3 (speech recognition generation)

2006-07-21 Thread John Dowdell
geminy555 wrote:
 I'm interested in connecting a Flash 9 /AS3 app to a speech
 recognition engine. That is sending audio from the client computer to
 a SR engine at the server and creating the response in flash. Do you
 know of any links source or documentation that would be helpful?

Questions about general Flash Platform abilities usually don't pull well 
on this Flex-specific mailing list, particularly now that everyone's 
talking about Flex 2.0, but this sounds like a great topic for other 
Flash problem-solving lists.

I know there are serverside speech recognition engines. I haven't yet 
studied their implementations, though. I don't know much. But I do know 
that many speech recognition systems are for telephone navigation 
systems, and so should be able to accept input pretty freely, within 
certain digital audio formats. I suspect that the microphone controls 
within Adobe Flash Player should let you send an audio stream from the 
visitor's browser to your media server, and then redirect that to your 
speech-recognition server.

For generation, I wasn't sure I could see what you were visualizing, 
whether you'd generate the machine's reply as an MP3 file on your 
server, or what. There could be different types of solutions, depending 
on the types of answers that might need to be generated.

For a limited command set, you might be able to do it all locally, no 
server... check the pattern of volume in the microphone and determine 
which canned audio snippet to present... mic volume alone can 
distinguish most speakers' back from forward, for instance.
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/as3preview/langref/flash/media/Microphone.html#activityLevel

Sorry you didn't get more replies, but this list is focused more on the 
coding abilities in the new Flex release than in general media issues 
with the Adobe Flash Player. Interesting topic, though, and I wish you 
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Re: [flexcoders] SOT: Flash Player 9 distribution

2006-08-14 Thread John Dowdell
Rick Root wrote:
 I don't want to have to tell my client base *NOT* to download the Yahoo 
 Toolbar, and it annoys the heck out of me that Adobe puts that on their 
 download page and checks it by default.
 
 Are there any other options besides directing people to the adobe page herE:
 http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer

FAQ here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/faq/#item-4-1

Summary, as I recall: Those few IE/Win users who do not use the normal 
ActiveX background installation, but are instead directed to the Adobe 
webpages, are the ones who can see additional download offers on those 
pages. Specifying a minimum version in your OBJECT tag should be enough 
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Re: [flexcoders] Image manipulation on client side

2006-08-15 Thread John Dowdell
Summary: Search term colormatrixfilter flex pulls up details.


edugalvez wrote:
 How can my flex 2 application manipulate images on the client file 
 system?
 Read manipulate as sepia-toning, resizing, rotating, exif-reading and 
 uploading to server. Mainly jpgs.

That's funny... I just replied to a similar question on a ColdFusion 
mailing list... let me paste the links here:

 Subject: Re: OT: Flash or Ajax to Compliment CF Project
 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:29:48 -0700
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 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dakota Burns wrote:
 I have a fairly large CF project coming up with an interactive piece that
 will involve changing colors on car parts (roll mouse over hood for design
 or color, select  post to database or session), possibly an audio greeting
 - that sort of thing.
 
 The audio requirement may resolve the question in itself, although for 
 some presentations it may not matter exactly how each browser invokes 
 the audio file.
 
 A more subtle advantage may be in the on-demand coloring... it's 
 possible to use the realtime color matrix filtering in Adobe Flash 
 Player 8 and above to change the coloring of an image without having to 
 download a new file. Docs  example:
 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=2079.html
 http://page.freett.com/isolations_nest/upload/test20.html


The realtime clientside filtering capabilities can be set through the 
Adobe Flash Professional 8 authoring environment, but are also exposed 
to ActionScript control. Lots of good Flex-specific links here too:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ColorMatrixFilter+flex

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: FDS 2.0

2006-08-18 Thread John Dowdell
klumikaze wrote:
 Can anybody define Adobe's definition of a CPU? 
 For example, we just purchased a new server with two dual core
 processors in it. Is a dual core processor considered one CPU? or two?

As João and Tom noted, that  would be counted as one... here's the 
citation from the Adobe site:

  (Q) Does the per-CPU pricing for Flex Data Services pertain to
  per CPU as in server or per CPU as in processor?
  (A) Per CPU as in processor. CPU is defined as a central processing
  unit in a hardware device, including devices accessed by multiple
  users through a network (for example, a server). A dual-core CPU
  is considered a single CPU for licensing purposes.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Tamarin, Adobe open source the Flash player ?

2006-11-07 Thread John Dowdell
Time out! Everybody go into their corner and read the FAQ and the 
previous commentary here before posting!  ;-)
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/faq.html

(Adobe has donated source code used in Adobe Flash Player's scripting 
engine to Mozilla, for use in their own JavaScript engine SpiderMonkey. 
It's not about writing ActionScript in HTML pages or doing anything 
with the rest of the Adobe Flash Player. Future Firefox scripts will 
scream, that's the nut of it.)

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Re: [flexcoders] ActiveX with Flex

2006-11-30 Thread John Dowdell
boy_trike wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestions?  ideas? 

I may have the question wrong... here are some of the things I think you 
might be seeking to answer:

--  How can a SWF in a browser call a particular ActiveX Control?
As Gordon said, it's Internet Explorer for Windows which can use 
ActiveX Controls, and you can have the Adobe Flash Player ask the 
hosting browser to pass a message to another ActiveX Control that 
browser has available via the externalInterface API. Your other 
ActiveX Control would need to be able to talk to the browser too, and we 
can't tell whether your auto-dialer does. But such a path is very possible.

--  If I make an out-of-browser SWF executable (via Flash Projector or 
a third-party shell) then how can I ask an ActiveX Control on the system 
to do something?
This depends on the shell you use, but many have the capability to 
ask the system something.

--  How might interactions in my in-browser Flex app trigger a phone call?
Another approach entirely is to handle the calling through your 
intranet server and remote calls rather than through each local desktop 
and local calls... seems like it would reduce support costs too, 
assuming your telephone system is already equipped with dialing 
capabilities.

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Re: [flexcoders] My flex app's content on google search

2006-11-30 Thread John Dowdell
mrinal wadhwa wrote:
  [If I want to write a weblog and display it in SWF, then how could
   I help the different search engines find each page?]

The search engines have looked inside static SWF for quite some time. I 
don't know whether your weblog will use a database or not, so couldn't 
guess what each engine might see.

But the major search engines recently converged on a sitemap proposal, 
which particularly helps dynamic sites... if you create a map with each 
post's keywords then you can assign parameterized URLs to help invoke 
the desired application state for various types of Flex front ends to a 
weblog database.
http://www.sitemaps.org/faq.html
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/11/swf_seo_rip.cfm

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: My flex app's content on google search

2006-11-30 Thread John Dowdell
slangeberg wrote:
 John Dowdell wrote:
 The search engines have looked inside static SWF for quite some time
 
 You'd have to tell me how that was done.

... it sounds like there's an or else left unsaid there ;-)

For How did search engines look for text inside SWFs? then Google 
handrolled it, while others used Macromedia's kit to make it easy.

For How can I prove to myself they read text inside SWF? then try a 
Google search on address filetype:swf or such.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: IE 7 Vista

2006-11-30 Thread John Dowdell
cluebcke wrote:
 The latest release of FP9 will run in Vista. 
 What I'm more interested to know is if previous versions of FP are
 incompatible with Vista, precisely because most of my customers are in
 a corporate environment with locked down systems and IT groups that
 are reluctant to deploy new configurations without a really good
 reason (one really good reason is that they're existing app won't work
 in Vista... not nice of me to hope for that, I know, but I am).

I don't recall Microsoft compatibility reports stating that they broke 
support for any existing Flash work, although I do know that the current 
Player contains optimizations for the new OS.

If your IT group updates the browser/OS and breaks things, then they 
could update the Player as well to fix it.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 issues on Windows 2005 Tablet PC Edition

2006-12-01 Thread John Dowdell
Steven Toth wrote:
 Has any testing been done of the Flash Player 9 on Windows 2005 Tablet 
 PC edition? When running our application under Flash Player 7 it 
 responded as expected.  However, Flash Player 9 is responding poorly to 
 pen gestures such as textInput focus and double click.  We filed a bug 
 report and the Adobe rep. that contacted us didn't know what Windows 
 2005 Tablet PC edition was and wasn't sure how to help us.  Any help 
 would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

I'm pulling up 18 Google references to search phrase Windows 2005 
Tablet PC... variant phrases don't return good results either. Is there 
another label I should be searching on to find others' experience with 
similar machines...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Embed or Load PDF File

2006-12-01 Thread John Dowdell
mvbaffa wrote:
 How can I load, on the fly, and/or embed a PDF in one of the Flex 2 
 containers or loaders. I have a database of PDF's that should be 
 displayed in my Flex 2 application.
 I am now working with URL's pointing to these documents that are 
 visualized directly in the browser, but I would like to show the them 
 embeded in my flex container.

The Adobe Flash Player does not display the range of PDF files handled 
by the free Adobe Reader and other PDF viewers.

Options for similar effects:

  o  Convert PDF to FlashPaper, which can be displayed in Adobe Flash 
Player, although I'm not sure offhand of invocation via Flex's MXML.

  o  Call up the PDF via Adobe Reader in HTML pages in the usual way.

  o  Possibly surround a PDF viewing area by SWF viewing areas, although 
anything with multiple browsers and iframes and such gets too 
dependency-ridden too quickly.

Your Flex 2 creation can invoke other web resources like PDF files, even 
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Re: [flexcoders] Animated Gif Support, why not yet? - feature request for the Profile Page Gone Bad

2006-12-12 Thread John Dowdell
{reduxdj} wrote:
 I know this seems silly, animated gif support in flex - why not?  

The Adobe Flex Framework, Flex Builder IDE, and Flex Data Services run 
on your machines. What runs on the enduser's machine is the Adobe Flash 
Player.

Adobe Flash Player hasn't worked directly with external animated GIF 
before, mainly because this format is so bulky compared to native SWF 
drawing routines. If they can't see the GIF, we can't use it.

There are various ways to make GIF animations playable in the Adobe 
Flash Player... you can import and convert existing GIF animations in 
the Adobe Flash Professional authoring tool, for instance:
http://www.adobe.com/go/12837

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Re: [flexcoders] Nearly-Off-Topic: Flex Apps on PDAs?

2006-12-13 Thread John Dowdell
Pablo Apanasionek wrote:
 Last night I was planning my incoming self xmas gift and I found
 myself wondering about PDA support for Flex-Built Apps. Is there any
 PDA-browser/plugin that supports FP9/AS3?

As other folks noted already, not yet. The mobile profiles of Adobe 
Flash Player don't yet have the realtime graphics engine of Adobe Flash 
Player 8, or the high-performance scripting engine of Adobe Flash Player 
9. The company is working towards eventual convergence of desktop and 
pocket abilities, but it will still take some time to achieve this and 
get it deployed.

It will be great to combine Flex interfaces and data manipulation with 
mobile deployment, but we've still got a way to go before achieving 
this... here's a summary of current mobile abilities:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/productinfo/features/

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Re: [flexcoders] SEO Compatibility

2006-12-14 Thread John Dowdell
sanjaypmg wrote:
 Is Flex SEO Compatible?
 If yes, How can I my flex application SEC compatible? so that it can 
 be easily available for search engines available.

Work in Adobe Flex produces SWF files. Text within SWF files can be 
found and used by the search engines (contrary to widespread myth). Example:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22contrary+evidence%22+filetype%3Aswf

If your content includes material fed in via database, then the search 
engine would not usually see that you use those words.

As with all SEO tasks, you'd first figure what search terms you have a 
chance to compete on (eg, you will never appear on the first page of 
results for search terms like buy flowers online). Then set up your 
HTML hosting page with TITLE, URL, metadata and reinforcement of the 
targeted text terms. Then make sure you get plenty of inbound links from 
authoritative sources, preferably with your targeted search terms as 
anchor text.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: SEO Compatibility

2006-12-15 Thread John Dowdell
dougmccune wrote:
 While I know Adobe employees don't like to admit this, the answer is
 very simple: It is often impossible, and if not impossible then at
 least extremely difficult, to get your Flex content indexed by search
 engines. That's the straight answer. No more no less.

A particular concrete example might help bring this conversation back to 
ground.

Work using Flex as the creation tool can certainly be found by search 
engines. Identifying your reasonable target search terms is the first step.


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Re: [flexcoders] Re: SEO Compatibility

2006-12-15 Thread John Dowdell
I'm out of this conversation, sorry... if I say start with the search 
terms you're trying to be found on and don't get acknowledgment, I'll 
just bow out now.

(That restaurant sample applet, I have no idea if it's data-fed text or 
internal text, and don't see mentions of E Coli myself, and that's not 
the common type of things people are looking for with search engine 
optimization. Undefined terms make the convo go 'round.)

Recap:
 Work in Adobe Flex produces SWF files. Text within SWF files can be 
 found and used by the search engines (contrary to widespread myth). Example:
 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22contrary+evidence%22+filetype%3Aswf
 
 If your content includes material fed in via database, then the search 
 engine would not usually see that you use those words.
 
 As with all SEO tasks, you'd first figure what search terms you have a 
 chance to compete on (eg, you will never appear on the first page of 
 results for search terms like buy flowers online). Then set up your 
 HTML hosting page with TITLE, URL, metadata and reinforcement of the 
 targeted text terms. Then make sure you get plenty of inbound links from 
 authoritative sources, preferably with your targeted search terms as 
 anchor text.



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Re: [flexcoders] Flash9 Player Penetration Rates

2006-12-18 Thread John Dowdell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it really only 40%, that's the impression that people here are
 under.  I need a current please so I can fight the good fight for
 flash 9 since I don't want to have to develop for flash 8 in eclipse.

Adobe Flash Player 9 was released on June 27 2006:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/flash_player_9_2.cfm

When Milward Brown conducted a consumer audit 2.5 months later, in 
September, they found about 40% current viewability:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/11/flash_player_st.cfm

Successful daily Player installations remain comfortably above five 
million a day. There was a significant upwards tick in early December, 
likely due to scandals in the movie industry in China (search term 
'zhang yu' video). Last week the auto-update mechanism for the 
fullscreen Adobe Flash Player 9.0.28 was enabled:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/12/player_releases.cfm

Summary: General consumer viewability is likely 'way above majority 
levels today. The consumer audits being conducted this month by Milward 
Brown will be published in the early part of next year. Your particular 
audience may or may not match overall consumer trends.

If you need the faster logic-processing abilities with Adobe Flash 
Player 9 and ActionScript 3, then this should be a sufficient convincer 
for most clients.

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Re: [flexcoders] SEO Compatibility

2006-12-18 Thread John Dowdell
sanjaypmg wrote:
 Is Flex SEO Compatible?
 If yes, How can I my flex application SEC compatible? so that it can 
 be easily available for search engines available.


This was the original question. Other topics came up during discussion. 
I'd like to confirm that I have the correct understanding of the main 
action item here... is the following wishlist item accurate?

I'd like Adobe to provide examples on how to expose user-entered text, 
stored within my database and displayed and entered through a Flex SWF's 
UI, so that any search engine could search for that user text and return 
the address of the interface.

I'm on the right page here for the subsequent discussion, true...?

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Re: [flexcoders] SEO Compatibility

2006-12-19 Thread John Dowdell
hank williams wrote:
 I want to apologize for the stridency of my earlier remarks.

No worries, you've contributed a lot over the years, forget about it. :)

I'm not sure how the various search engines do with query terms in URLs, 
though... some may index and/or rank on it, others may not. I don't know.

I do know that the various search engines explicitly warn against 
cloaking (redirecting search results to different content), but for 
understandable reasons they don't go into much detail on their 
implementations.

It sounds like our core current problem is in figuring out how to get 
search engine results for dynamic user-generated content piped through a 
standard interface... if someone types salmonella into a restaurant 
review, eg. I'm still not sure whether the search engines will support 
such a goal or not... the big thing this year for Google, Yahoo and MSN 
was to support a standard sitemap protocol, but this is again for the 
main static content, rather than the ongoing contributions held within a 
database:
http://www.sitemaps.org/

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Re: [flexcoders] OT:Flex 2 adoption rates so far?

2006-12-19 Thread John Dowdell
pk_wasp wrote:
 Has anyone got info on this?
 The lastest investor webcast didn't mention much about Flex 2
 disappointly:
 http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/06q4analyst/
 (every bit of press helps convince that skeptical client :) )

What type of info are you seeking? I don't think Adobe publicly breaks 
out revenue by product. The Adobe Flex 2 family of technologies has been 
getting some very strong press reviews, as well as earnest 
word-of-mouth, but what types of stats are you seeking...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Passing flash vars to embedded swf doesn't work

2006-12-19 Thread John Dowdell
mikey_wilko wrote:
 I have a flex app that has a swfLoader.  I am loading different swf's 
 in to the swfloader and they're all working fine.  With one particular 
 swf, it requires a flashvar.  I've tried the following format : 
 swfLoader.source=xxx.swf?id=2.  This just doesn't work.  However, 
 running from the HTML wrapper and setting the flashvar in HTML, it 
 does work, so the swf being called is working ok.  Is there any 
 different way of calling it from Flex??  Am I calling it the wrong way?

flashvars per se is an HTML tag. Query terms in URLs are passed by the 
browser. If you're loading one SWF within another then the browser isn't 
involved. You can use localConnect to talk to two different top-level 
SWFs, and direct addressing for a host SWF to talk to a guest SWF, right...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Adobe site extremely slow

2006-12-19 Thread John Dowdell
Ralf Bokelberg wrote:
 Whenever i try to watch some webpage on the Adobe site it is extremely
 slow. Be it the flex documentation, be it the flex exchange or be it
 the new flex cookbook. I mean, how can Google search the whole
 internet in a split of a second, and Adobe needs like 30 seconds to
 open a webpage?
 I wonder, if i'm the only one who encounters that. Or is it a
 german/european problem?

I know that the symptom is real (although intermittent), and that the 
web team is aware of it, but I do not know details of why the site can 
perform at different speeds.

I'll try today to hook up with the web team, and again request that we 
get some type of document/explanation up on why pages sometimes take 
longer than usual to display. I don't know the situation well enough 
myself to be able to venture the context.

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Re: [flexcoders] SEO Compatibility

2006-12-19 Thread John Dowdell
Doug McCune wrote:
 In addition to allowing a search to 
 return the address of the interface I think people also want the 
 capability to allow deep-linking, so the address could make the 
 interface load a particular content item from the database. I'd also 
 like to point out that what we really want in an ideal world is a simple 
 and automatic way for this to work in Flex, without requiring complex 
 additional work. The history manager in Flex is a good example of this. 

URLKit has been getting good word... how is it doing for you?
http://joeberkovitz.com/blog/urlkit/

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?

2007-01-10 Thread John Dowdell
John Kirby wrote:
 After seeing the Steve Jobs MacWorld demo 
 (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event) of the new iPhone 
 which runs a Mac OS X (light)... I can't help but think that flex apps 
 can't be far behind?  I can't wait to start!
 Anyone at Adobe care to comment on a flash/flex mobile version for the 
 iPhone.

No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down 
news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until 
the keynote, myself.

I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some 
good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are 
really up to Apple. I put up an early i dont know up on the weblog 
yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm

Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?

2007-01-16 Thread John Dowdell
Shannon Hicks wrote:
 It seems that Apple has confirmed that Flash  Java will be supported on 
 the iPhone. Now if Adobe or Apple would just tell us what version will 
 be supported.
 http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/15/6632 

For what it's worth, the Macwelt translation of some Apple staffer to 
German, and then the re-translation back to English, is likely not as 
authoritative as what Steve Jobs himself said on the subject last week:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/13/ultimate-iphone-faqs-list-part-2/
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/jobs_on_flash.cfm

Summary: Situation still indeterminate.

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Re: [flexcoders] Do you trust auto-update?

2007-01-19 Thread John Dowdell
ben.clinkinbeard wrote:
 are there any reasons to not target FP9 and therefore rely
 on auto-update for users without it?

For what it's worth, I didn't reply yesterday, because I couldn't think 
of such reasons, but my opinion could be seen as biased.

The majority of consumers are almost certainly running Adobe Flash 
Player 9 by now. It was released on June 30, and ten weeks later, in 
mid-September, over a third of all consumers had already installed it, 
according to a consumer audit by Millward Brown:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

Today we're about thirty weeks into distribution. If your audience 
doesn't already have the latest capabilities, then they soon will. It's 
your decision, of course, but it's hard for me to see reasons to dismiss 
use of Player 9 today.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you trust auto-update?

2007-01-19 Thread John Dowdell
ben.clinkinbeard wrote:
 Thanks for replying John. When can we expect to see results of a new
 audit?

Consumer audits of current web-browser capability are usually held four 
times a year, usually with a 4-8 week processing/publishing cost, but 
holidays intervened this quarter. The December audits could be up any 
time, or it could be a few weeks yet... haven't heard firmer word on 
this quarter's scheduling yet, myself.

Regardless, if Player 9 consumer adoption was not yet in the WinXP range 
as of mid-December, then it should be pretty darn close by Jan 19:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Localizing Press Esc to exit full screen mode?

2007-01-23 Thread John Dowdell
Oleg Filipchuk wrote:
 any of supported languages - you mean English, French, German and Chinese?
 The are a plenty of other languages. I've been testing it on machines, with
 Russian, Czech, Polish, Slovakian, Ukrainian etc and everywhere it is the
 same Press Esc to exit full screen... Is it so hard for such a big 
 company
 to make translation of one simple sentence to at least 50-70 languages?

I'm assuming you have a display of your own Click Here for Fullscreen! 
message, in whichever set of languages you wish... could you toggle it 
to Click Here to Switch Back! when they do so?

The Player is localized into many but not all languages, and its context 
menu can contain fullscreen text, with the screen itself then 
containing escape text. My point here is that these are usually not 
the only interface elements exposed -- usually you'd also have your own 
instructions, which can be in any language you care to write.

(I'm not sure whether anyone from the Flash Player team keeps up-to-date 
with reading all messages on FlexCoders.)

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting

2007-01-24 Thread John Dowdell
Bill Gercken wrote:
 Has anyone been able to get an new license?
 I contacted adobe and opened a ticket back on the 9th of January and I am 
 still waiting...
 After 50 minutes on hold, they took my information and then put me on hold 
 for another 
 30 minutes. They finally came back on the phone and asked me to fax in a 
 letter of 
 destruction for my Windows version, which I did.  They said that they would 
 email the new 
 Mac key within 48 hours. Waited until the 18th and still no key. Another call 
 to Adobe (30 
 minute hold time) and they told me that my original request was missrouted 
 and that I 
 should have the key by the end of the week, worst case by Tuesday (today). 
 Still no key...
 I am a HUGE fan of Macromedia/Adobe/Flex but I am not sure why it has to be 
 this 
 difficult. Thank goodness for the 30 day trials...

I've escalated this internally, but the San Francisco Customer Service 
folks are doing a training today, and I'm not sure when I'll see a reply.

What you and Ethan describe doesn't seem acceptable to me either, but 
let me get some more information on this, and get back to the list when 
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Re: [flexcoders]wmode=transparent kills my remote calls

2007-01-29 Thread John Dowdell
Webdevotion wrote:
  Whenever I set my wmode to transparent, all my remote calls fail.
  No errors, nothing.

Matt Chotin wrote:
 The bug still exists, unfortunately we require browser vendor support to
 address some of these issues.

What's the browser dependency on this symptom (brand, OS, version)?


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Re: [flexcoders] Is this possible - SVG to PDF(vector) ?

2007-01-31 Thread John Dowdell
Alexander Tsoukias wrote:
 How is it possible to take a canvas from FLEX and convert it to vector
 PDF?

I'm not sure... when you say FLEX are you thinking of the Flex Builder 
development environment, or the Flex Data Services server, or the Adobe 
Flash Player which is running a SWF which happened to be created using 
the Flex framework?

And where would the resulting PDF file be created... on your development 
machine during development, on your server when a visitor arrives, or 
would a PDF be created and stored on the enduser machine as they 
interact with a SWF?

There could be different paths, depending on where we're starting from, 
where we want to end up...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Adobe.com Servers?

2007-02-01 Thread John Dowdell
purcept wrote:
 Why have the Adobe.com servers been so Slow and Erratic over the last 
 couple months?  Any time I go there for Flex info, I always have to 
 Refresh at least once.  I've asked around, but no one seems to know.

David Hatch of the web team posted a status update a few weeks ago. If 
you're seeing performance which is not satisfactory, could you forward 
it either there or at the feedback widget on each adobe.com webpage, so 
that the info gets directly to those who do the work? Thanks.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/dhatch/archives/2007/01/hi_all_since_th.cfm

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe.com Servers?

2007-02-02 Thread John Dowdell
Janis Radins wrote:
 Oh comon. Adobe.com is slow for you for two minth?
 It's been slow as hell from here (eastern europe) all the time for years
 now, totally unusable.

That's consistent with what David Hatch, of the Adobe web team, 
described... the San Jose servers have already been updated, and the 
Dublin servers are now including these changes.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/dhatch/archives/2007/01/hi_all_since_th.cfm

I suspect that this will be a continual battle, though, as transfer 
rates continue to increase... during late December the Photoshop CS3 
preview alone was responsible for about as much traffic each day as the 
entire US Library of Congress holds, so the architecture has to be 
continually updated:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2006/12/photoshop_cs3_1.html

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Re: [flexcoders] flash 9 and firefox 2.0

2007-02-05 Thread John Dowdell
dantmcgowan wrote:
I have been asked about flash player 9 and support for firefox 2.0.
 I looked here:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/
 and did not see any support for 2.0. Is this an old version, or is
 there no support for 2.0?   Thanks,

That page lists the minimum requirements. (The current Player likely 
runs well in Firefox 1.0x, but that is no longer a tested environment, 
and I think the phrase not supported here means that staffers won't 
accept phonecalls on older versions.)

Unless a new browser removes support it previously offered, then plugins 
should run the same or better in later versions.

Summary: Firefox 2.0? No problem.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: flex and IE 7 problems.

2007-02-15 Thread John Dowdell
mthielman11 wrote:
 When we tracked the logs its as REALLY strange.  a user was loggin in, 
 username and was ferrall.  For some reason the log kept showing he was typing 
 farrell.  we 
 thought it was user error till we tried it and the same thing happened.  Also 
 was changing 
 other things we typed in.  SOme usernam e combos would cause the app to not 
 even send 
 anything to the server.  Again everything works perfectly fine in every other 
 browser we have 
 tried.  Only IE7 is causing the issue.  

I have no idea what's going on in that one situation, but I'm wondering 
whether there might be a keyboard mapping or other encoding issue in 
play. Does ferrall have an accent mark, or is it a straight ASCII 
character? How about when you try other machines using IE7? That could 
be a way to zoom in on the difference.

(And yes, whatever's in Flex itself is insulated from changing 
browsers... the OS still gives the keystrokes to the Player, though, and 
the Player requests network services from the browsers, so there's a 
couple of way environmental changes could get in there, at the edges.)

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Re: [flexcoders] PDF Files

2007-03-09 Thread John Dowdell
Greg Hesla wrote:
 Would anyone like to share their experience with creating some sort  
 of web-based PDF-annotation app? I realize that this may not be  
 something that I can do in Flex, but if I can kick it off from within  
 my Flex app, that would work as well.

I'm not sure I understand your situation correctly, but you're aware 
that Adobe Acrobat already contains a variety of annotation and 
collaboration abilities, right?
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com+acrobat+%28annotate+OR+annotation%29

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Re: [flexcoders] Is there a javascript flashObj.callFunction(), l ike setVariable?

2005-04-28 Thread John Dowdell
I think this is How can the various browsers talk to the Macromedia Flash 
Player?

Here's a weird URL with many screencaptures, but should list or link to the 
Player's inbound API:
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?event=viewid=KC.tn_15683extid=tn_15683dialogID=7481736iterationID=1sessionID=96301dc81d7227e49115stateID=0%200%207485611mode=simple#jtfc

(I don't recall whether these offer external access to root-level or targeted 
in-swf functions, and scanning these documents does not seem to quickly reveal 
the answer as previous versions of these documents did.)

Browsers vary in their support. Netscape and Mozilla browsers were the ones who 
*initiated* this kind of intercommunication. The material on the website 
doesn't 
seem as easy to navigate as in previous years, but current browser support 
should be listed at least in the Release Notes for each Player:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flash/releasenotes.html

Summary: Browser/plugin intercommunication has been noble in theory since 1996, 
but still isn't really all that practical, unless you *know* your audience will 
be in standard configurations of IE/Win, or Java-enabled Firefox, or both. This 
may change in the future as new intercommunication APIs come on line:
http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=4923

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Re: [flexcoders] CSSI Security Issues and Flex

2005-05-05 Thread John Dowdell
The title may be a bit of a misnomer, because Macromedia Flex lives on 
the server, while cross-site scripting exploits would occur on the 
client machines. This seems a sub-class of general security in the 
Macromedia Flash Player rather than the development environment, true...?

Here's general background info on security and privacy in the Macromedia 
Flash Player:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flashplayer/
... and here's background on recent security issues in the Macromedia 
Flash Player:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/#flashplayer

As I understand the post, you're concerned about the possibility of a 
command injection into a textfield of a SWF application. (I could be 
wrong, but it sounded to me more like a script-injection issue than a 
cross-site scripting issue.) Have you been able to see this happen yet? 
have you typed fscommand:() into a textfield in a particular component 
to pop up an alert or such? If there's a recipe that could be reproduced 
in-house then we can work on it.

Or is it more a general curiosity, about whether there might be a way 
that such a thing is possible?

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: More Competition

2005-05-05 Thread John Dowdell
dunwerkin wrote:
 My reason to not look at SnappMX (or Lazlo for that matter) is that
 every XML based implementation for a UI seems to be creating its own
 very different dialect. Not very good if you want to repurpose UI
 later.  If someone wrote a SWF generator that used either XUL
 (Mozilla's dialect) or MXML, I'd be much happier.  At least the
 XAMALON effort is using the M$ dialect, which will have a high uptake.

I like the diversity of markup languages myself... a language is 
oriented directly around a component set, or a timeline model, or some 
other abstraction of a particular experience in SWF.

I can see the desirability of one markup language to rule them all, 
but that seems like it would imply shoehorning a desired novel 
experience into a single pre-existing schema.

That repurposing need you mentions seems like it will be a significant 
one, particularly after a year or two and work needs to be migrated from 
one environment to another. Schema-to-schema translations seem like 
they'd go further than trying to settle on just a few universal schemas 
up front...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: CSSI Security Issues and Flex (Proof of concept exploit)

2005-05-06 Thread John Dowdell
Eric Raymond wrote:
 Here is a sample exploit.  It requires you to trick the user into
 clicking a link. But if you can do that some percent of the time,
 with the aid of a flash decompiler to explore the app, you might be
 able to do all sorts of interesting things.

Thanks, Eric. I suspect one of my partners may already have forwarded 
this along to the Security Center silently, without an acknowledgment to 
the public conversation, so I won't put a lot of time into this here myself.

But it almost sounds like you're describing a situation of evil 
author, rather than evil site visitor, because you listed MXML rather 
than text which a visitor could type into a field for a classic 
script-injection approach. (And even then, asfunction() calls would be 
bounded by the same security sandbox which corrals all ActionScript calls.)

Hmm... or maybe your scenario is closer to I relied on some type of 
web service which went rogue behind my back, that might be it...?

But I'd defer to the Security Team... if you haven't received an offlist 
advisory that someone sent this there for you already, then here's the 
Please alert us entry:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/alertus.html

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Re: [flexcoders] On the topic of Wishlists

2005-05-12 Thread John Dowdell
pk_wasp wrote:
 I know Macromedia has a page where u can submit bugs or feature request
 is there any pages on Macromedia site or livedocs to show what ppl 
 have wished/requested for (thinking of filling out some feature 
 requests for Flex 2.0 but don't really want to repeat what other 
 people might have requested)

Not on the Macromedia site, but you can pick this up from the varied 
mailing lists and weblogs... here's a Google Groups search term to pick 
up relevant threads from the Macromedia forums, for instance:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=wishlist+group%3Amacromedia.*

(Putting the results up on the site faces a series of odd problems... 
this material can't automatically go up there or it will be spammed 
(pagerank from mm.com is desirable)... trying to quantify the requests 
raises scenarios like FeatureY got the most votes! without realizing 
it conflicts with FeatureX... not everything which reaches that mailbox 
is relevant material... the next request is usually for commentary on 
each incoming... we haven't found a sustainable way to complete the 
feedback loop yet.)

That wishlist address is best for making sure that what you want reaches 
the right decisionmakers. For general commentary on possible future 
directions, the public lists like this are the best place.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex on the Web

2005-05-19 Thread John Dowdell
Michel Jansen wrote:
 I am looking for Flex application on the Web. Can anynone send me some 
 URL's where i can find them? 

As David noted, the bulk of Flex sales are made for intranet 
applications, and the open World Wide Web is a slightly different audience.

Allen had that good link to the Flex Examples page at DevNet:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/example_apps.html

... and Jeff Tapper pointed to the Sample Apps section at cflex.net, 
while Jeff Battershall had that nice example at Dow Jones:
http://cflex.net/
http://www.djindexes.com/mdsidx/portfolio/index.cfm?event=showPortfolioGlobalRelativeRisk


Another resource is the Macromedia Showcase, filtered on Flex:
(URL is too long... try mm.com/showcase, then click Flex)

For up-to-the-minute citations (although mixed with a variety of other 
materials), try searching the Macromedia weblog aggregator with terms 
like flex example:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/

If you know of a particular type of application that you're seeking 
(banking, business analytics, a particular company, whatever) then there 
are possibilities in a general web search.

But Flex on the Web would only be a small part of Flex in Realworld 
Use... it's a subset of the whole at this time.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex on the Web

2005-05-19 Thread John Dowdell
One more recent gallery is in this quarter's Macromedia financial call, 
on slide 34 of the following Breeze presentation:
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/ir/macr/web_pres/earnings/q405/

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex on the Web

2005-05-19 Thread John Dowdell
jacksodj wrote:
 Also, last I saw posted to this group, there were only about 200 
 licenses sold to date.

I saw that you quoted my whole message in reply. If you had instead 
checked the links provided, you would have seen that number of licensees 
(not just licenses) increased over 50% since the time of whatever 
uncited material you were quoting.
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/ir/macr/web_pres/earnings/q405/
   (Flex material starts at slide 30.)

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Re: [flexcoders] passing variables using getURL?

2005-05-19 Thread John Dowdell
sbyrne_dorado wrote:
 I'm having problems figuring out how to pass variables using getURL. 

Pass info from where, to where...?

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Re: [flexcoders] passing variables using getURL?

2005-05-20 Thread John Dowdell
Abdul Qabiz wrote:
 No we don't get anything back if invoke JavaScript function using
 getURL(..). But you can do something similar, as described below:

For what it's worth, some of the various browsers *did* return 
JavaScript values to plugins after receiving a javascript: pseudo-URL. 
I haven't tested whether any of the current browsers work like this.

But like all that underdocumented stuff, it worked in some browsers, 
didn't work in others, and was subject to side-effects in many cases 
(didn't work with WMODE on, etc).

Some of the browsers *do* offer a documented, tested, and supported 
plugin/browser intercommunication scheme, and where such an ability is 
offered the Macromedia Flash Player has exploited it, under the general 
FSCommand interface. I see lots of people continue to promote 
javascript: pseudo-URLs and this worries me, just because of the great 
variability of browser support for this ability.

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Re: [flexcoders] The Softer Side of On Demand: A Peek at Software and Workflow News

2005-05-27 Thread John Dowdell
Tarik Ahmed wrote:
 http://members.whattheythink.com/home/od05sherburne7.cfm
 
 ...Exstream was showing its brand-new Dialogue Version 5, which, 
 according to Vice President of Marketing Kelley Sloane, has over 250 
 enhancements. With this release, Exstream teamed up with Macromedia to 
 use its* Flex Server* to create Dialogue Anywhere for Marketing, 
 allowing creation of a rich Internet user experience and the ability to 
 create an interface similar to a PC. Sloane claims Exstream is the first 
 company to deploy an application like this, designed for corporations 
 that have marketing staff scattered in various geographic locations. 
 Users can log on to Dialogue, create marketing messages and rules, and 
 send their work for approval under a defined workflow cycle, having them 
 incorporated in documents at run time..

Thanks for bringing that up. I spent some time at exstream.com, but 
didn't see a good explanation of how they were using the technology. 
Anyone find a better citation on this...?

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Re: [flexcoders] RIAs

2005-06-02 Thread John Dowdell
Benjamin Dobler wrote:
 Does anyone remember when the word RIA (Rich Internet Application) first
 appeared. Who invented the term? I think it was someone at MM but i
  can`t remember.

As Jesse noted, the first use of that acronym appeared to be in this 
500K PDF from Macromedia in March 2002:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/whitepapers/richclient.pdf

A year or two back I tried to confirm this through the 
recall.archive.org engine (since deceased), which did textual analysis 
of the archive.org content, and it did confirm that this Macromedia 
document was the first usage of that RIA term. I can't prove that no 
one ever used that phrase before, but I've never seen any evidence to 
counter its original definition being by Macromedia staff.

I got tired of regularly finding an dopening that PDF then clicking 
through pages, so I copied the guts of it over here:
http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/007312.cfm

Paraphrasing and summarizing that crucial aspects of rich client 
technologies section, these were defined as:
(a) use of a high-performance runtime for code, content and communications;
(b) integration of media types (video in the same window, eg);
(c) a common object model for these multimedia services;
(d) ability to use and add components, for development efficiency;
(e) XML data communications with servers;
(f) online/offline transparency (we're all still working on that one!);
(g) friendly to various browsers, operating systems, devices... there's 
explicit mention of beyond the desktop non-PC work here.

The term RIA has been bandied about in much of the AJaX hullaballoo, 
but I'm not sure any current JavaScript examples actually meet the above 
criteria -- modern JavaScript techniques have recently added ongoing XML 
transfers with the server, but they don't seem in the same ballpark on 
the rich aspect of that popular RIA moniker.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex external desktop application communication

2005-07-05 Thread John Dowdell
superabe wrote:
 I know Flex excels at communicating with server-side data sources.
 Is there any way for a flex app to communicate with a desktop application 
 installed on the same machine as where the app is being viewed (in a 
 controlled kiosk environment for e.g.)

Key concept: You may develop a SWF in any of several ways, but this file 
runs within the Macromedia Flash Player, usually (but not necessarily) 
in a browser.

So this becomes: Can plugins in browsers invoke executable code on the 
desktop? The answer to this is Not usually, because of the severe 
security risks this implies -- document browsers are designed to 
promiscuously visit site after site after site, so there is great risk 
in letting things on your hard drive invisibly execute.

I don't know what type of communication you're seeking -- data exchange, 
switch of focus, one-way web service -- there could be ways to achieve 
the goal, depending on just what that goal was.

Sorry I don't have a useful here ya go! answer, but the above is the 
background towards finding it.

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Re: [flexcoders] MM weblogs moved

2005-07-07 Thread John Dowdell
Dave Carabetta wrote:
 Do you know when/if the /go/* feed URLs will be updated? 

These are in the pipeline (gotta do it!), but the older machine was 
physically damaged, while its owners (Mike Chambers  Christian 
Cantrell) are at the FlashForward conference in New York. It will 
probably take a few days to resuscitate it and clean the transfer, but 
the goal is to transparently redirect old links and current RSS readers.

Fastest information will be at the MXNA Weblog (the weblog about the 
aggregator):
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxnaweblog/

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Re: [flexcoders] Load a large swf (13MB)

2005-07-07 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 Can I start playing the movie before it's loaded?

The question is actually harder to answer than it might seem, because 
SWF has added more capabilities and content types since it started.

Here's a good intro to the basic streaming nature of a SWF file, written 
towards Flash 4/5 days:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/how/subjects/Stream1/

For basic SWF a movie will start to display as soon as the first frame 
is loaded... the second frame will display immediately if it has no new 
media, or (if the second frame has new media) after the second frame's 
media has downloaded. Generally, Flash is set up to start playing in a 
Flash.

It gets harder if you're using elements which can be called at any time 
during play (attachMovie, attachSound, etc) because these elements then 
need to be front-loaded, and need to be completely downloaded before the 
*chance* that they might be called in the first frame. Components 
generally fall into this class as well.

The video features add another complication to is it streaming... we 
can set up video to download entirely before playing, to stream from a 
server, more:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flash/articles/flv_download.html

One useful strategy for many cases where a 13-megabyte SWF is considered 
would be to break the presentation into modules which can then be called 
on demand. If everything was in a single 13M SWF then you might have to 
download the bulk of it before seeing anything interesting (depending on 
how it was constructed), but if there's 2M for a map module, another 4M 
for a voice-over and so on, then you can load these assets as they're 
requested and speed the immediate startup of the piece for your audience.


Easier question to ask than to answer, sorry, but does the above provide 
a path for what you wish to achieve...?

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Re: [flexcoders] IBM pushing rich internet client project for Eclipse

2005-07-22 Thread John Dowdell
Tariq Ahmed wrote:
 IBM pushing rich internet client project for Eclipse 
 
 *...* For now *Macromedia* claims a head start, boasting 300 customers 
 for *Flex*. Although *Macromedia* has joined Eclipse to offer a rich *...*

Yup, I saw that syndicated article too... there's certainly an art to 
press placement. ;-)

That 300 figure is old... in the Macromedia Executive Presentation 
this week, Stephen Elop noted that the number of separate Flex licensees 
moved up to 400 last quarter, an increase of 30% over the last three 
months... that's pretty astounding.

Atop that, many of the earlier licensees have expanded their licenses 
this quarter -- their pilot projects were so successful that they bought 
more seats for more workgroups. For me, that tested buy-in is 
significant validation.

For Laszlo, congrats to them on getting the news article... it's good to 
explore different XML abstractions of user experience. It's hard to 
estimate seats or pricing head-to-head, but I note about a 50:1 
difference in mailing list messages in the two tools' main lists this month:
http://openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-dev/2005-July/thread.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

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Re: [flexcoders] OT: Flex Team Macromedia :)

2005-07-27 Thread John Dowdell
Scott Barnes wrote:
 wtf is our FLEX Team Macromedia :) (ie noice no FLEX team macromedians)...


I'm guessing w stands for where this time... otherwise I'm off-track 
in the following reply ;-)

Rey had the main point -- Team Macromedia is oriented around the 
Macromedia newsgroups and webforums. The number of Flex licensees is far 
smaller than the number of people using the visual tools, and a smaller 
fraction of these people seem comfortable with the existing webgroups. 
This Yahoo list here has a higher signal-to-noise ratio than the 
newsgroups anyway.

Summary: TMM is a newsgroup-oriented inner circle, and Flex has a very 
different conversational model online.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex on a SmartPhone?

2007-03-29 Thread John Dowdell
Nick Collins wrote:
 Nope, not possible as Flex requires the Flash 9 player with the new VM,
 which doesn't currently run on smartphones.

Thanks, Nick, that's indeed the key. Adobe Flash Lite 2.1 is built 
around the desktop Flash Player 7 engine and ActionScript 2:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/productinfo/faq/#itemA-2

Bringing both Flex and Apollo to mobile is definitely on the agenda, but 
first the mobile runtime needs to become even more capable than the 
current release is.

I haven't seen any dates estimated for delivery. For the forseeable 
future Flex 2 work is limited to fullsized Mac, Win and Linux computers, 
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Re: [flexcoders] using an OCX with Flex

2006-09-25 Thread John Dowdell
boy_trike wrote:
 I am considering re-writing a traditional client-server application in Flex.  
 This will be an 
 INTRANET application and all of the clients have a registered OCX that my app 
 has to 
 communicate with (Interfaces with a phone dialer).

If all of your audience must use an OCX phone-dialer, then it sounds 
like they're all using the Microsoft browser for Windows. (This is the 
only browser family which uses ActiveX as an extension mechanism.)

Flex lives in your development flow and on your server, and it's a SWF 
which is delivered to their browsers to render. SWFs in IE can 
communicate with other ActiveX Controls, with the best communication 
being with those ActiveX Controls which expose a VBScript/JScript 
interface (Microsoft's JavaScript analogues).

Two steps here:
--  First confirm that the OCX dialer supports a suitable JavaScript 
API; then
--  Do a Google search on externalinterface flex to find the range of 
resources on implementing it.

Such work is usually a little trickier than standalone work, because 
you're asking the plugin, the browser, and the third-party control to 
all behave as you expect, but it's definitely an achievable goal.

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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-29 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet?  If not... when?
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm

It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm

The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-29 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 50% in 3 months are you kidding?  That's insane.

I'm glad you share my sense of insanity ;-)

But these early projections seem plausible... Flash Player 8 reached 85% 
consumer viewability in nine months of distribution, and the daily 
installation rates for FP9 are just as high.

High-profile sites moved to FP8 pretty quickly, mostly for the new video 
codec, and now all those upgrade prompts have been pushing people to the 
current Player. The application designers are getting a boost from the 
video houses here.

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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-03 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 I'm totally confused now.  Isn't the only thing requiring a player upgrade
 to 9.0 flex 2?  Without auto-update turned on what is causing such a 
 blazing fast adoption rate?

I think it's the content. While YouTube requires Adobe Flash Player 8 or 
better, anyone still upgrading from v7 or previous will now get the 
current version, Flash Player 9.

Rephrased, a site doesn't *have* to specify FP9... anytime that they 
specify a minimum version greater than what someone has installed, then 
(as of the end of June) they'll be getting FP9.

MySpace going to SWF9 did increase adoption rates, but even if they have 
90 million regular visitors, that's still only about three weeks' worth 
of normal Flash Player distribution... from what I'm told, we've been 
seeing five to six million successful installations per day anyway. 
MySpace *did* have an effect in bunching upgrade requests together, but 
the total Flash Player 9 audience is already far larger than the MySpace 
audience.

There's a virtuous circle going on with Flash work now... the 
application developers benefit from the video sites, from the 
advertisers, from the newspaper infographics, from the personality sites.

More on the different sociology of Adobe Flash Player 9 here:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/08/linux_observati.cfm

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Re: [flexcoders] How does Digital Editions do read/write across the net without a trust file?

2006-10-30 Thread John Dowdell
jeremyrichman wrote:
 If you haven't already, check out Adobe's new Digital Editions beta (at 
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/digitaleditions/install/).
 I believe this was written using Flex; but how do they read and write 
 across the net without needing a trust file? 

This project is a mix of Player and native-code. There isn't yet good 
public documentation on its mechanics, even though the project raises a 
number of intriguing questions. I'm hoping we see more details soon.

 From what I've been able to gather in informal hallway conversations, I 
don't see much that would be transferrable to other projects yet -- my 
first reaction was Wow, are they really reading PDF/A into SWF?, but 
that's apparently not the case either. Their remote retrieval might not 
even be using the Player; we can't tell yet.

It looks to me now more like a one-off project than something we can 
reuse in various ways, but it would be better to wait for authoritative 
information to appear than to rely on the impressions I've been able to 
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Re: [flexcoders] Making the list archives searchable

2005-03-17 Thread John Dowdell
Manish Jethani wrote:
I want to make the list archives searchable in the true sense
(like Google, like Yahoo, like MSN, ...not like Yahoo Groups).
Have you tried adding terms site:groups.yahoo.com inurl:flexcoders to 
any web search? These arguments work in both Google and Yahoo, and 
variants are available in other engines too.

NB: From what I've seen, neither Google nor Yahoo appears to archive all 
messages, but this is a spidering/coverage problem rather than a problem 
of capability on our part. Automating a separate archive still seems 
like it may help, but existing archives are (at least partially) 
available today, through the above search tactic.

For blogwork, it's possible to make an HTML field which accepts a user 
query, and then the Submit button adds site: and inurl arguments 
to this term before submitting it to the chosen search engine. Result: 
Visitors see a Google or Yahoo page, restricted to the FlexCoders 
archives, showing hits on their desired term.


The first step in doing that is to get the archives. I'm not
sure if Yahoo provides these, but I know how to get them otherwise.
The archives are available at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/messages

It's possible to programmatically loop through these to capture them. 
I'm not sure whether Yahoo Groups' Terms of Service allow for groups to 
harvest their own information like this.

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Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)

2005-03-31 Thread John Dowdell

Benjamin Dobler wrote:
 Why no open source Flex?
 I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components,
 creating Actionscript components
 It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex.

That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true.

One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to 
define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and 
databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to 
describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media 
sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there 
have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of 
SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole 
subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people 
tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director 
experience in XML.)

Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to 
construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some 
cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to 
construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at 
author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each 
request at serving time (as Flex usually does).

I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then 
constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have 
its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios.

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Re: [flexcoders] My Apologies

2005-04-01 Thread John Dowdell

Mehdi, Agha wrote:
 I have to set Out of the Office reply for a week while I am out. I
 apologize if it causes any inconvenience. I could unsubscribe from the
 list and re-subscribe but than I'd miss a lot. If anyone does have any
 objections then I will un-subscribe. :-(

Yahoo Groups has a nice way to handle this. Just go to groups.yahoo.com, 
sign in, and hit Edit My Groups. You can then set all your Yahoo email 
groups to no email, while still being able to post, being able to view 
archives, etc.

When you get back to your regular routine, you can then set each group 
to individual emails, digest, web-based reading, whatever you prefer.

(I wouldn't recommend using Digest mode anymore -- this group, in 
particular, has many members who autoquote the full chain of messages 
below each new sentence they may add to the thread, so mailing list 
digests have become pretty much unreadable over the last few years. Good 
while it lasted, though)

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Re: [flexcoders] flex and javascript

2005-04-08 Thread John Dowdell

Duccio Del Ministro wrote:
 Is there a way tocommunicate between flex and javascript?

Not directly, because these (usually) live on different machines.

(You can create MXML files on your development machine... Macromedia 
Flex changes these XML files to SWF on your server... JavaScript 
usually describes something which lives on the different machines of all 
your site's visitors.)

For How can a SWF communicate with the browser hosting it? then there 
is the way browser-makers document, which is addressed inside the 
Macromedia Flash Player through its FSCommand work. This is tricky, 
though, because not all browsers offer such a communication mechanism, 
and those that do require different browser-scripting to make it work. 
It's a lot of testing.

There's also a way the browsermakers tend *not* to document (or test, I 
suspect), and that's one-way messages from plugin to browser via 
javascript: pseudo-URLs. You can see the spotty browser support for 
this in this older survey:
http://www.macromedia.com/go/14159

For How can I offer a file-upload UI for a SWF inside a browser? then 
the most reliable method I've seen is to just put an HTML FORM in the 
page to make such a button visible. It will be outside the SWF, but it 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Technical Consultant Architect roles at Macro media in San Francisco Boston

2005-04-15 Thread John Dowdell

Marcy Kintzele wrote:
 We have some very interesting Flex related openings in Macromedia's
 Consulting group in the SF and Boston areas

Will this get up on the public jobs board, or is it a super-secret offer 
only to members of this list?
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/hr/consulting.html

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Re: [flexcoders] Local data access in Flex

2005-12-14 Thread John Dowdell
weeksie31 wrote:
 I need to evaluate the ability of a flex app to read from xml files 
 stored locally (local disk/network).
 Is this at all possible?  Anyone know of any blog entries etc that 
 discuss offline flex usage?

Currently, Flex lives on the server, perhaps during authoring, but I 
suspect you're asking about how the Macromedia Flash Player, when it 
plays within a browser, can access the local hard drive. This might be 
possible, depending on where the SWF is at the time, what types of 
permissions you set, etc. Much more info is in the total Player security 
overview:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/articles/fplayer8_security.html

Generally, the easiest way is if all your data comes from the same place 
-- if you're only accessing through one of the four sandboxes -- but 
there are ways to handle various types of inter-machine communication 
securely, too.




Clint Modien wrote:
  Can anyone from Macromedia comment on the integration of flex 2.0 with
  Central?  Is it better?

Nick Weekes wrote:
  As well as info on Central + Flex 2 for Offline RIA's, Id like to 
hear from
  the Adobe ppl on Apollo + Flex integration.  Is this going to replace
  Central, or co-exist?

I haven't seen any announcements about Central, particularly since the 
alpha Flex 2.0 announcements were made.

You may have noticed the recent talk about the Apollo project, scant as 
the current data is. Here's an overview of what we know so far:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/12/cahill_on_apoll.cfm

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 for PDAs Mobiles ??

2005-12-14 Thread John Dowdell
Aldo Bucchi wrote:
 Man, I was definitely expecting more interest in this one!!
 so... should I simply presume that Flex is not yet ready to go mobile?

Flex (in its various versions) is a way to produce SWF. It can't go 
mobile itself, so I'm not sure what you're exactly asking...?

My best guess is that the actual question is something like I've got to 
  make a data-managing SWF for deployment to a certain class of PocketPC 
devices, and I'd like to use a Flex workflow to do so -- what are my 
options? and (if that's the question) then the Macromedia Flex 1.x 
workflow targets FP7 and above, while PocketPC has FP6, which does not 
leave room for much maneuvering:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/

But I'm not certain I pulled the complete-yet-concise question from the 
discussion...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Question about a book written by Steven Webster and Allistair McCloud

2006-01-16 Thread John Dowdell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Webster and Allistair McCloud and I am trying to find what is the best 
 chapter to 
 read about security. I want to learn how to put information on a server and 
 have 
 it be kept secure? The information would be things like passwords and money 
 amounts etc etc.

I don't have the book's index in front of me, but I know a good web 
resource for such topics:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/

It sounds like you'd have a serverside database in there somewhere, 
which would then provide values to either your Flex app, or your 
audience's Macromedia Flash Player, or both, so that general techniques 
of securing a serverside database would all apply... am I seeing the 
situation correctly...?

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Re: [flexcoders] Yahoo Maps questions

2006-01-19 Thread John Dowdell
Tom Fitzpatrick wrote:
 Any input or pointers to other Flex/Yahoo Maps code examples much appreciated.

I haven't been able to dig as deeply as I'd like, and so can't answer 
the questions, but I do know a riper venue for such discussions:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yws-maps/

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Re: [flexcoders] FlashPlayer 8.5 for Windows Mobile PocketPc ?

2006-02-06 Thread John Dowdell
rossanovazzoler wrote:
 Are there any plans for making flex 2 apps available on pocketpc?

Not immediate, but that's definitely a long-term desire, assuming the 
hardware and subsequent markets permit. Right now, as work on Flash 
Player 8.5 enters Beta, the PocketPC engine handles the SWF6 format
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/pocketpc/2002.html

Last week Bill Perry started up some conversation on his blog about the 
needs for SWF7 for PPC, and he's specifically seeking which SWF7 
features make the most difference to you in your own work:
http://www.flashdevices.net/2006/02/interested-in-flash-player-7-for.html

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Re: [flexcoders] Benefits of Flash Security Model and crossdomain.xml

2006-02-14 Thread John Dowdell
Eric Raymond wrote:
 My main question is who is this model intended to protect?

Other folks had good info... another way I've seen to get the idea 
across is that this same domain sandboxing is a necessity because the 
clientside Macromedia Flash Player can execute behind a firewall, so 
arbitrary servers behind that same firewall must not be invisibly tapped.

But you raise a larger issue here, in that this objection/query comes up 
about every two weeks on this list and in other discussions talking 
about Player mechanics. I see that the top link for search term why 
crossdomain.xml shows a Macromedia technote which explains why as 
because of security reasons... maybe we need to do a better job of 
getting the actual understandable rationale inside each document which 
discusses the issue, to put the subsequent details in context? Your 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: SWF Object/Embed tags (Flex/Flex 2/Flash 7+)

2006-02-27 Thread John Dowdell
Darin Kohles wrote:
 As I mentioned, my
 colleague had read an article about dropping the Embed tag, so I
 thought I'd ask for the Official word on the subject.

Yes, Drew McLellan's Flash Satay article has been highly linked. Drew 
was seeking to make pages which make the validators happy by not 
including EMBED. He tested for simple visibility of SWF with only OBJECT 
in some undetermined browsers... I think he later named some of the 
browsers where he saw the SWF.

But to my knowledge no one has done ongoing work against the various 
browser brands, in their various versions on the various platforms, in 
various HTML environments (inside DIV, with certain alignments, etc), 
with the full range of browser-dependent features (printing, JavaScript 
communication, data-passing etc).

The best list I've seen about various browser differences when invoking 
plugins through OBJECT rather than their documented EMBED was at Geoff 
Stearn's place last spring... link and synopsis here:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/06/browser_object.cfm

Summary: Until the browser vendors say they take responsibility for 
correctly invoking plugins via OBJECT, I'd have to urge staying with 
their documented EMBED. There are tricks to keep the validators happy 
when using that tag (dynamic JS writes, etc), but the core problem of 
the HTML 4.0 de jure spec disallowing the de facto standard of the day 
still has repercussions, even here in 2006.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 Hotfix

2006-03-02 Thread John Dowdell
Eric Raymond wrote:
 The url had very little information on the particulars of the hot fix. 
 Two questions that arise are:
 
 1) What is the exact behavior our customers will see if we do not
 apply this hot fix?  (One assumes the behavior will be the same as
 unpatched IE after the hotfix?)
 
 2) What does the generated html now look like (for those of us who do
 not use the proxy and have to create it manually)?

I understand that there will soon be a link in that Flex-only technote 
to the larger Active Content Developer Center, which does contain 
background on user experience, Microsoft source documents, more:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/

(I'm not sure whether they show the generated markup from the various 
JavaScript solutions, but I do recall a user-experience article there.)

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Re: [flexcoders] IE Update disables Flash

2006-03-03 Thread John Dowdell
For what it's worth, I figure we're in for a few weeks of 
less-than-fully-accurate reporting out there, as new people learn of the 
browser change.

If you could spread the word of the Adobe Active Content Developer 
Center, which links to the Flex technote and other resources, then that 
would be great, thanks:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/

For fastest updates, I've been following each twist and turn of this 
case on my weblog... a search term of activex there will pull up these 
issues (along with a couple of unrelated hits).
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Re: [flexcoders] PDF aware Flash Player ???

2006-05-24 Thread John Dowdell



vvasireddyflex wrote:
 I am wondering is Flash player is PDF aware like browser?

No, not really... the Adobe Flash Player is popular because it is small, 
and import filters add to filesize. There is not even basic PDF reading 
in Flash Player, much less full PDF reading.

I know of a few ways to merge these technologies today:
-- Print the PDF to FlashPaper and display in Flash Player.
-- Invoke Flash Player from Adobe Reader (works with ActiveX, and I'm 
not sure at the moment of Netscape Plugins).
-- Have the two extensions side-by-side in the browser (subject to 
browser intercommunication abilities, Flex-Ajax Bridge-ishly).

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Re: [flexcoders] PDF aware Flash Player ???

2006-05-24 Thread John Dowdell



Carlos Rovira wrote:
 2006/5/24, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I know of a few ways to merge these technologies today:
 -- Print the PDF to FlashPaper and display in Flash Player.
 -- Invoke Flash Player from Adobe Reader (works with ActiveX, and I'm
 not sure at the moment of Netscape Plugins).
 -- Have the two extensions side-by-side in the browser (subject to
 browser intercommunication abilities, Flex-Ajax Bridge-ishly).
 
 Approach four:
 - Use blazepdf : see it at http://www.blazepdf.com/

Good point, thanks for the catch. Gregg Wygonik's BlazePDF is a SWF file 
which reads, parses, and then renders PDF content. Like all non-Adobe 
PDF readers it doesn't support everything the file format can do, but 
from all I've heard it's a good approach if its functionality fits your 
job's needs.

(btw, I really like these approaches to render PDF within a SWF file, or 
render SVG within a SWF file, or render XAML within a SWF file, and so 
on... new web technology like the Safari/Firefox CANVAS tag shouldn't be 
held in a little ghetto just because all the browsermakers haven't used 
it yet... I think SWF can play a big role here, as a universal renderer 
of many types of web content.)

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Re: [flexcoders] PDF aware Flash Player ???

2006-05-24 Thread John Dowdell



Gareth Edwards wrote:
 The company I work for are interested in methods we can use to communicate to 
 the parent document. (ie HTML document where the PDF is embedded).
 Could you elaborate on how it is currently possible to Invoke flash player from 
 Adobe Reader? Is this done via _javascript_ in the pdf document as well as the 
 browser?
 Are there examples of this in the Acrobat SDK? or in any public facing documents?

Just to check, we're talking about using the variety of WWW browsers 
your audience may have, and putting in SWF and PDF elements in the same 
HTML page, and having them all intercommunicate... is that the goal?

If so, I know that there was LiveConnect support in past versions of 
Acrobat Reader, but I don't know offhand if the current Adobe Reader 
7.0x has yet implemented the NPRuntime communication spec in recent 
browsers.

(Background: Netscape/Mozilla have had three different 
intercommunication schemes, with the most recent one also adopted by 
Opera and Safari... Microsoft's Windows browsers have had a parallel 
scheme... in plugins these differing approaches have generally been 
papered-over with externalEvent or FSCommand or ExternalInterface 
types of calls. In addition to these browser-provided intercommunication 
methods people have hacked around browsers for years, whether through 
_javascript_: pseudo-URLs or refreshing a small DIV or whatever. Lots of 
 browser difference here.)

A lot would depend on which browsers your audience uses (brand, version 
and platform), and which ways you need communication to flow. That's the 
base restriction.

The Apollo project will focus on making it easier for HTML, SWF and PDF 
to intercommunicate with a minimum of hassle, but right now you've got 
to lock down the biggest variable, and that's the browsers your audience 
has chosen. After that you can research communication methods those 
browsers support. Not an easy answer, I'm afraid. :(

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Re: [flexcoders] AJAX versus Flex

2006-05-25 Thread John Dowdell



Stacy Young wrote:
 We should also be aware of the impact of flash video. Its use is skyrocketing right now ...and anywhere you have the flash player for video you open a door to flex technologies.

Good point... we'll see audiences pull new Flex capabilities rapidly 
into their browsers, even if only through the video world. That's part 
of what got Flash 8 to 70% consumer viewability in its first half year, 
and adoption of Flash Video has sort of exploded since then.

At the Ajax Experience conference in San Francisco this month, several 
speakers said that their audiences will contain significant IE6 presence 
for a very long time to come -- only a minority have switched browsers 
on their current machines, and many computers will have to be replaced 
before the eventual Vista is adopted. _javascript_ audience advancement 
will likely, over the next few years, be tied to hardware replacement 
rates.

Two very different speeds of evolution here

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in hopes of simplifying the interface and user choices, might be some 
other reason. I'll flag your post here for the production team, though.

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