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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex on the Web
Steven Webster wrote: Also, last I saw posted to this group, there were only about 200 licenses sold to date. I can pretty much certainly state that there have been a *great* deal more than 200 licenses sold to date, perhaps 200 customers was cited, but a single customer might purchase anywhere from 10s or 100s of licenses in many instances. And I've only got visibility of a small proportion of the Flex business that is being done... If this is true... Where are all the applications? Is Flex only used for Intranet purposes?? Michel Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex on the Web
LS, I am looking for Flex application on the Web. Can anynone send me some URL's where i can find them? It looks like most of the RIA's in production on the Web are build with Flash, BackBase and/or Laszlo. Please enlighten me... Michel Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex on the Web
Allen Manning wrote: Hello Michel, The examples on the Macromedia Flex Development centre is a start: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/example_apps.html Thanx. But i am looking for the spectaculars! I thought that Flex enabled the next generation WebApplications but what i have seen up until now isn't that innovating ;-(( Or do the creatives still have to find this technology.. Or is the price too high?? Michel HTH, Allen *Allen Manning*, Technical Director Prismix Ltd *t:* +44 (0)870 749 1100 *f:* +44 (0)870 749 1200 *w:* www.prismix.com http://www.prismix.com *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Michel Jansen *Sent:* 19 May 2005 12:07 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex on the Web LS, I am looking for Flex application on the Web. Can anynone send me some URL's where i can find them? It looks like most of the RIA's in production on the Web are build with Flash, BackBase and/or Laszlo. Please enlighten me... Michel *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Tomcat
LS, Any users running Flex on Tomcat? I am looking for a Flex-Tomcat HOWTO... MJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Mozilla on Linux
Dear Flexcoders, Since i downloaded the latest Mozilla on my Debian Linuxbox flex shows only 20% of the screen... It displays onnly 1 column on the left which is just 20% of the browserscreenwidth ;-( Can anyone help me out here... Regards, Michel Jansen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Benoit Hediard wrote: I don't see the point of this licensing change. I do. The only reasonable explaination is that Flex is selling as fast as lightning! Hire a team of M$ WebProgrammers for a few months and look at the BILLS... You will run to MM and buy Flex! MJ With the old licensing: Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000, Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for more than ~$29 000. Everybody were happy. With the new licensing: Business case A- not anymore...??? Business case B- not anymore...??? Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing) This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, it answers less business cases. The contrary would have been a much clever move: Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 (a real starter kit...). I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many opportunities). Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price. Strange... I don't understand... Ben -Message d'origine- De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price 4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals Michel Jansen wrote: Matt Horn wrote: An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually cheaper for the 4 CPU License with Gold Support but i am loosing a customer here ;-(( Good luck... Michel matt *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129fbir5d/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363230/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129g81obs/M=298184.6018725.7038619.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112363780/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/ *http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 -- -- *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129qurger/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112368894/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time?? Lucian Beebe wrote: There has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex. Let's set the record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex. There are now three different packages for Flex going forward. For most people, the starter kit will provide everything you need for your Flex applications: 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. For the larger Flex applications out there, we will sell per CPU at $15,000 per CPU. Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. In response to some of your comments, over time, we are very interested in offering additional licensing options to broaden the range of projects and developers who can leverage Flex technology. We follow the market very closely, and pay great attention to your constructive feedback. We all have a stake in the success of this marketplace. Why are we changing the price of Flex? We have been building, selling, and supporting Flex for a year now. The marketplace for rich Internet applications is really taking off. Hundreds of applications are being delivered all over the world, and the general interest level is really growing out there. Within this overall marketplace, there are a variety of customer segments and project types with varying requirements. Large enterprise customers and systems integration partners require substantial pre-sales engagement and ongoing assistance from Macromedia commensurate with the value that they intend to derive from the software. Small and medium size customers and individual developers require low up front costs to get started fast and operate within very limited IT budgets. It is important to have great offerings for each type of user. There is no one size fits all approach that both makes everyone successful and is sustainable over the long term. A stratified approach makes the most sense, and that's what we're gradually implementing. We've adjusted our core product pricing to better reflect both the value derived and the costs involved in driving successful projects within large enterprise customers. We've also created a starter package that combines deeply discounted Flex licenses with high quality support designed to address the needs of large customers doing pilot projects or medium size customers doing full deployments. Please talk to us if you have special needs. We will continue to work directly with enterprise customers doing larger deployments or who desire Enterprise Licensing Agreements. We also have specialized offerings for ISVs delivering packaged software solutions based on Flex. If you have a project specifically suited to Flex but need different packaging, please contact your Macromedia sales rep to discuss your project and the pricing options that meet your needs. If you see real value in Flex, there is probably a way to make it work. Lucian Beebe Flex product manager Macromedia *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* ADVERTISEMENT click here http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129j2ujdc/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705007207:HM/EXP=1112230157/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075 *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Authority is now live
Sjors Pals wrote: Eh, nice but there is no content at all at your site. Did I miss something? Don't think so... This is meant to be a good place for flexcoders. I think it is a great initiative! Michel Greets, Sjors Pals -Original Message- From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 2 februari 2005 7:20 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Authority is now live Hello, We are happy to announce that Flex Authority, the new online Developer Resource for Flex Developers, is now officially up and running! We were a little bit over zealous with our goal to be completely finished by today--however, the majority of the sections have been completed with the Sample section and Articles section to be completed by February 5th. We are very pleased with the response we have received so far! Because of the large number of questions we recieved about Flex we are dedicating our Articles section to a FAQ this month. If you have any questions you would like to have answered or included, please submit them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. For March, we will begin posting articles. Please continue to submit your articles for publication to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. As always, being a developer myself, I am thrilled to have the forums live! Please take a minute to answer some posts and post your own questions or comments this week. See you online, Jeff Flex Authority http://www.flexauthority.com
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