[flexcoders] Re: How do they do that (Flex video)
No it's not OK ;) When a company has different file formats then it's really sad and unfortunate to have to rely on third party tools for conversion between those formats - if for no other reason then integration and overall better experience. My laymen understanding is that FLV is a streamable video format and like you said SWF is like an exe. Well actually it's more like Java byte code in that it is a stream of byte code that is only understandable by the Flash Player. If you look back through some of the responses or maybe they are on my other post, you will see that at least one person on this forum has suggested using SnagIt or some other screen capturing tools. No, indeed it is not OK if folks who are evidently at least dabbling with Flex and there they are suggesting third party screen capture tools. Not only is it not OK but it is quite sad that Adobe, who is smack deep in this space, has left even one developer thinking of resorting to such band aids. I for one am disgusted by it and only because they know the best how to play a SWF file and how to capture the video stream that comes out of it. Enough said on my part. P.S. However, your reply is not only OK but it's also much appreciated as well. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Fotis Chatzinikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: flex and video are different things... Flex can play video easily, the same applies to Silverlight. Silverlight is not video , it can play video... Trying to convert an swf to flv is similar to converting an exe to flv ok?
[flexcoders] Re: How do they do that (Flex video) ?
have been more constructive by pointing me towards creation of FLV files which are uploadable onto YouTube. I did. I must have missed it in the rest of your non sense ;) Surely Adobe would not allow us to find ourselves in a situation that would require third party conversion utilities just to convert between Adobe SWF and FLV formats. If there are good free tools to do it, why should Adobe bother compeating unless it can make a killer advantage. Is integration and a resulting much, much better experience not enough of a reason? As a matter of fact, good part of what Adobe does so well is already done in pieces elsewhere. The reason why Adobe does it well is in great part due to nothing more than better integration and a resulting better experience. If Adobe wrote such a SWF to FLV converter then they could offer it to YouTube and other sites so that they could accept uploading of SWF files, on which they would then do PERFECT conversion into FLV or some other format. There is another thing Tom that you totally fail to recognize and that is the quite poor quality of most of the videos that are currently up on YouTube. A lot of quality is lost in the process of using various settings of frames per second and Kb or Mb per second, that may or may not match what YouTube uses and then one's video ends up going through yet another conversion, resulting in yet another decrease in quality. Giving YouTube a perfectly beautiful looking SWF presentation and letting them convert it to FLV with whatever settings suit them the best, would most likely result in the best possible video quality. When all is said and done Tom, be assured that most of the folks out there (most of them not being technical) can not tell nor figure out why ADOBE FLASH MOVIES look so bad on YouTube. Most of them know how to right click on one that they are watching and BINGO, we know what they see will UNFORTUNATELY in most cases cause them to erroneously think that FLASH IS CRAP FOR VIDEO. Surely they would do that, if for no other reason than to keep us off the slippery slope of even contemplating exploring what MS and Silverlight might be capable of and from calculating just how long it might take, either way, before MS ends up eating everyone's lunch. ;) If people want to go in the direction of spending more money, as opposed to less money, they should feel free to do so. We'll see them back again in a few years :-) Sorry Tom but since (with a statement like that) you seem to know very little about how Microsoft operates, I will explain it to you. Time is the only thing that is on Adobe's side. Eventually, Microsoft will end up eating everyone's lunch, at least on the desktop. It causes me a lot of pain to say just that but it is true. While they have a lot of catching up to do, within a couple of years they WILL catch up to Adobe - technically speaking. With another 2-3 years, they will catch up in the field as well - in terms of deployments. Tom, like it or not, there will not be anything that will be more beatiful then an end-to-end .NET code (C#, VB, take your pick) that stretches from the clients/devices and all the way through the servers and into the database itself (stored procedures). Unfortunately, they WILL end up eating everyone's lunch because of the beauty and a much, much better developer experience due to such an end-to-end integration. Just the type of lousy integration, a small piece of which I suggested earlier. P.S. You just happened to be the closest official one on my path of frustration. Please take my comments constructively and not at all personally, even though that might end up being hard to do, at least from a first reading. And thanks for replying.
[flexcoders] Re: How do they do that (Flex video) ?
Folks, One of the reasons why I mention Flex is that there is a need for a simple end user tool with which they assemble such slideshows/presentations. Instead of smart a** answers, Tom could have been more constructive by pointing me towards creation of FLV files which are uploadable onto YouTube. Surely Adobe would not allow us to find ourselves in a situation that would require third party conversion utilities just to convert between Adobe SWF and FLV formats. Surely Adobe would give us an ability to generate FLV files from wherever we are able to produce SWF files. Surely they would do that, if for no other reason than to keep us off the slippery slope of even contemplating exploring what MS and Silverlight might be capable of and from calculating just how long it might take, either way, before MS ends up eating everyone's lunch. ;) Regards and thanks. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, valdhor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were to do what you want, I would use a combination of ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org) and FFMPEG (http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/) server side. ImageMagick can take a set of images and create a slideshow. FFMPEG can then be used to add audio. A quick tutorial is available at http://www.linux.com/articles/60722 Of course, I use PHP - There is a PHP wrapper for ImageMagick (http://us.php.net/manual/en/book.imagick.php) and one for FFMPEG (http://ffmpeg-php.sourceforge.net/). You would need to find wrappers for your own server side language. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, comfederation comfederation@ wrote: Hi Folks, I am able to create a slideshow which uses either external or internally embeded images and music. This is the easy part. Now I need to create a stand alone movie. That is, I need to capture the slideshow that the user sees and then I need to encode it in some format (mp2/4 ?) so that it can be uploaded to YouTube. This is the hard part. So, how is this done within Premiere Express (the ReMixer that is on Photobucket, MTV and used to be on YouTube) ? To start with, I am looking for a good explanation of what is involved. This is the fun learning part. ;) Thanks a take care.
[flexcoders] How do they do that (Flex video) ?
Hi Folks, I am able to create a slideshow which uses either external or internally embeded images and music. This is the easy part. Now I need to create a stand alone movie. That is, I need to capture the slideshow that the user sees and then I need to encode it in some format (mp2/4 ?) so that it can be uploaded to YouTube. This is the hard part. So, how is this done within Premiere Express (the ReMixer that is on Photobucket, MTV and used to be on YouTube) ? To start with, I am looking for a good explanation of what is involved. This is the fun learning part. ;) Thanks a take care.
[flexcoders] Re: Serbian FlexCoders
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[flexcoders] Re: How do they do that (Flex video) ?
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First idea: upload all the assets (or asset IDs) up to a server, and have it generate the movie, then serve it back. Thanks Tom ... but what Flex related piece would I use on the server to assemble the slideshow so that it looks at least similar to my Flex application - including various start/end points, timing, transitins and other effects ?
[flexcoders] Cloning Adobe Premiere Express
Folks, If I create a slide-show in Flex, how do I capture and record the output that the user sees ? In other words, how do I go about cloning the Save/Render portion of Adobe Premiere Express ? Thanks.
[flexcoders] YouTube AS3 Support
Believe it or not, YouTube hacked together an AS2 implementation of a chromeless player. AS3 support is nowhere to be seen. Please help all of us by clicking on this link and then voting for this issue by clicking on the star, to the left of Isse 416:. http://code.google.com/p/you-issues/issues/detail?id=416 Regards, Zdravko
[flexcoders] Re: YouTube AS3 Support
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, comfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe it or not, YouTube hacked together an AS2 implementation of a chromeless player. AS3 support is nowhere to be seen. Please help all of us by clicking on this link and then voting for this issue by clicking on the star, to the left of Isse 416:. http://code.google.com/p/you-issues/issues/detail?id=416 Regards, Zdravko I've cut pasted the URL so I have no idea why it's not working or how in the URL .../gdata-issues/... got changed to .../you-issues/... ttp://code.google.com/p/gdata-issues/issues/detail?id=416 While you are there, could you also take a look at and support issue 641 tat http://code.google.com/p/gdata-issues/issues/detail?id=641
[flexcoders] Chromeless YouTube Player
If you have managed to use the new chromeless YouTube player from within Flex 3, could you please post an example. Thanks.
[flexcoders] WHERE is ActionScript 3 Documentation HIDING ?
I am looking for ActionScript 3 reference and other manuals, in PDF format, and I can not find them? Why are these PDF reference manuals hidden well enough that even dummies (like my self) can not easily find them ? It certainly does not seem to be one of Adobe's brightest moves that will help them in the Silverlight battle !
[flexcoders] Ordering printed ActionScript 3.0 pdf's
I see that Flex 3 pdf's can be ordered in hard print, but I do not see that ActionScript 3.00 documentation can be ordered in printed format. Is this correct and if not, where do I order them?
[flexcoders] Re: Praise for the Flex 3 Documentation
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just ordered the printed Flex 3 documentation. Yay! How much does it cost and how did you order ?
[flexcoders] Re: Converting ynamic XML slide-shows to FLV files for YouTube hosting ?
What I have is a simple media player that uses XML files to tell it what mp3 audio and jpg images to play. What I believe I need to be able to convert to an FLV file is the output and not the media player itself. It is the Adobe Premiere Express (BETA on YouTube, MTV, etc) and having read that it was developed by Adobe using Flex, that makes me believe that it is possible without using their media server. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, comfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am creating a dynamic XML driven slide-show that PLAYS mp3 files with jpg images. Now, how do I take a single slide-show and COMPILE it into an FLV file so that it can be uploaded and hosted on YouTube ?
[flexcoders] Converting ynamic XML slide-shows to FLV files for YouTube hosting ?
I am creating a dynamic XML driven slide-show that PLAYS mp3 files with jpg images. Now, how do I take a single slide-show and COMPILE it into an FLV file so that it can be uploaded and hosted on YouTube ?
[flexcoders] Re: Flex2, ActionScript3, Cairngorm Flash
Greg, Thanks a whole million because your summary is precisely what I got so far out of learning this new and amazing environment but I just needed to confirm that I was on the right track as to what was happening under the hood and only to make sure that I understood it all correctly. I have absolutely no Flash background and the closest that my knowledge comes to anything web-ish is from some .NET self learning. I have done tons of business applications with tons of database accessing but in an old and outdated 4GL environment with a fair amount of desktop GUI type of stuff. However, all of that has me thinking about a generic GUI desktop that would sort of do to business database records what browsers do to html pages - navigate them ;) Such a desktop would very much be dynamic and data driven. The repository would be in a database or simply an XML document on a webserver and the desktop would be driven by it and would act accordingly. The old programmer in me says that I should simply read the repository and code generate the required MXML and then compile it on the server. However, the new porgramer in me says that all of the GUI should be dynamically generated. What do you say ;?) Thanks again. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex2, ActionScript3, Cairngorm Flash9
I have yet to get into all of this, beyond some basic point and clicking within FlexBuilder. So, I would be greatful if someone could please summarize the interaction between the various compoments in my subject line. From what I have read, I am under an impression that the Flex2 part basically converts MXML into ActionScript3 code; which then gets compiled into a SWF file. Is this correct and can one accomplish with straigt AS3 code whatever can be done with Flex/MXML ? What about the MX UI cotrols or rather can they be used straight from AS3 ? Thanks a lot and take care. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex2, ActionScript3, Cairngorm Flash9
I have yet to get into all of this, beyond some basic point and clicking within FlexBuilder. So, I would be greatful if someone could please summarize the interaction between the various compoments in my subject line. From what I have read, I am under an impression that the Flex2 part basically converts MXML into ActionScript3 code; which then gets compiled into a SWF file. Is this correct and can one accomplish with straigt AS3 code whatever can be done with Flex/MXML ? What about the MX UI cotrols or rather can they be used straight from AS3 ? Thanks a lot and take care. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
