Re: [flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server
Again, to kind of echo what Brendan said, if this guy can't figure out simple remoting to a Coldfusion server, I would question my choice. Coldfusion is by far the simplest, most plug and play remoting to Flex there is, and there is plenty of documentation available showing you exactly how to do it. The one caveat with working with a remote server is that you need to make sure you configure your channelset if you are setting up your remoting in Actionscript as opposed to using the MXML tag. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Brendan Meutzner bmeutz...@gmail.comwrote: ** Do you have a code repository for the ColdFusion content setup? (ie. Subversion, CVS, TeamSite, etc...) I have never debugged against a remote ColdFusion server, but it looks possible: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusionBuilder/Using/WS0ef8c004658c1089-31c11ef1121cdfd6aa0-7fef.html You'll need to have RDS enabled on your remote server... instructions here if you already have CF installed... I am not sure if you need to have included it during the ColdFusion install, or if you can simply enable after the fact. http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/disabling-enabling-coldfusion-rds-production.html If you have a code repository, then you could check out your central CF code to any development or production machine allowing you to keep that common set of files you desire. Then you can have your development versions of ColdFusion using this code, and allowing you to setup the debug environment locally. To my knowledge, you're not going to be able to run MS Access on the Mac environment, however, that's not a big deal... just host the MS Access content on a remote server, and setup your local CF development version to have a datasource pointing to the remote database. I use Mac for my development environment, and target Windows and Linux production servers. Having the code repository allows me to develop locally with my Mac environment, with local CF, database and Flex content... when I'm ready, I simply synchronize with repository and then do the same on my production versions to get the most up to date code. Setting up the local Mac dev environment with CF and Flex is very straight forward. You use the same services-config.xml, remoting-config.mxml files as you have on the production server to define end points for RemoteObject calls, so everything in seamless when the code hits the server. In your Flex project properties, you target your local version of the services-config.xml file (which sits in the .../Coldfusion8/wwwroot/WEB-INF/flex-config directory locally) and when the application compiles, it uses the defined configuration here. Once it is on the server, you have the same version of the file running on your ColdFusion instance and everything is fine. In short, take the time and make the effort to get a proper development version running, and don't try to develop against remote servers. Regardless of Windows or Mac, you want all of your developers to use remote development environments. I've worked on teams with mixed OS environments like this, and it's possible to do. If you're interested, and have the budget, I can spend a couple hours with you to get the right environment setup. All of the Flex development I've done since 2004 is against ColdFusion backends and I'm more than familiar with it. If you think we can solve this with general questions via this forum, then I'm happy to help here as well... but there's only so much you can solve with generalizations vs. actually seeing your setup and being able to help hands on. I hope this helps a bit, and feel free to continue to ask questions... Brendan On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Mark Fuqua m...@availdata.com wrote: be
[flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server
I have hired someone to work on a Flex application. It uses remoteObject to connect to ColdFusion. The gentleman I hired does not know how to set up a local environment and it seems it ought to be easy to set up the remote server to work. I've tried everything I can think of (granted it is a short list). Can anyone help me figure out what to put in the following fields: ColdFusion root folder: Web root: Root URL: Some background information on remote server: It is a vps running ColdFusion 9. The server is located in the default location. When I compile my app locally and ftp it to the server, it works without change. However, when the person I hired goes to set up the project, it says the folder does not exist (which is doesn't...as Flex is looking locally). I would like to be able to set it up so he can compile and debug against the remote application. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark
Re: [flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server
- ColdFusion root would be the base installation folder for ColdFusion (Windows: C:\Coldfusion9 Mac: /Applications/Coldfusion9) - Web Root will be the wwwroot directory within the Coldfusion folder - Root URL is http://localhost:8500 I would seriously question the decision of the individual you hired for Flex if they are unable to get this setup... sorry... i know that sounds very arrogant but I wouldn't want you throwing money away on this... The thing to remember with ColdFusion is that when defining channels and destinations within the various xxx-config.xml files is that they refer to the ColdFusion installation location for web roots, etc... not the IIS locations even if you're serving the web content from your inetpub directory. To get the CF debugging setup, you need to define a server instance inside ColdFusion builder and then define your CF project to use that server... you then Run your CF project in Debug mode to kick off the debugging breakpoints you put into the CF code will get caught as the CF content is called and run from your Flex app. Brendan On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM, jmfamp m...@availdata.com wrote: ** I have hired someone to work on a Flex application. It uses remoteObject to connect to ColdFusion. The gentleman I hired does not know how to set up a local environment and it seems it ought to be easy to set up the remote server to work. I've tried everything I can think of (granted it is a short list). Can anyone help me figure out what to put in the following fields: ColdFusion root folder: Web root: Root URL: Some background information on remote server: It is a vps running ColdFusion 9. The server is located in the default location. When I compile my app locally and ftp it to the server, it works without change. However, when the person I hired goes to set up the project, it says the folder does not exist (which is doesn't...as Flex is looking locally). I would like to be able to set it up so he can compile and debug against the remote application. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark
RE: [flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server
Thanks for the reply Brendan. However, I think I did a bad job communicating what I was looking for. I can set up the environment locally, but the guy I hired has never used coldfusion or remote objects. I hired him to help with an existing Flex application I did myself (very green). It is running locally, on my dev machine and remotely on two different websites (slightly different code…logos/images/colors etc.). I wanted some help doing some stuff with filtering and sorting listCollectionViews and ArrayCollections…he has never worked with Coldfusion before and setting up Coldfusion is pretty easy, but he has a mac, which I know nothing about…the database is MS ACCESS (I know…) and I was just hoping to avoid getting him to do that and get all the Coldfusion code over to him and get the database working…. Is it possible to just set up the compiler/debugger in Flex builder to use the remote Coldfusion setup I have already? It would seem like that would be a better alternative, especially with more than one person…always compiling and debugging against the same cfc’s and data. I have no real basis for this thought, however, having said that, it would seem I should be able to set this all up for my remote server… do the ColdFusion root (which is the same as my local set up) and WebRoot (which is the same as my local set up) and just somehow change the rootUrl to point to my remote server…and maybe also have to put a cross domain file (can’t remember the right name) on my remote server. However, it seems whatever combination I try, fails… This might not be possible…but it seems it should be. Thanks for your time, Mark From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brendan Meutzner Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:04 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server - ColdFusion root would be the base installation folder for ColdFusion (Windows: C:\Coldfusion9 Mac: /Applications/Coldfusion9) - Web Root will be the wwwroot directory within the Coldfusion folder - Root URL is http://localhost:8500 I would seriously question the decision of the individual you hired for Flex if they are unable to get this setup... sorry... i know that sounds very arrogant but I wouldn't want you throwing money away on this... The thing to remember with ColdFusion is that when defining channels and destinations within the various xxx-config.xml files is that they refer to the ColdFusion installation location for web roots, etc... not the IIS locations even if you're serving the web content from your inetpub directory. To get the CF debugging setup, you need to define a server instance inside ColdFusion builder and then define your CF project to use that server... you then Run your CF project in Debug mode to kick off the debugging breakpoints you put into the CF code will get caught as the CF content is called and run from your Flex app. Brendan On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM, jmfamp m...@availdata.com wrote: I have hired someone to work on a Flex application. It uses remoteObject to connect to ColdFusion. The gentleman I hired does not know how to set up a local environment and it seems it ought to be easy to set up the remote server to work. I've tried everything I can think of (granted it is a short list). Can anyone help me figure out what to put in the following fields: ColdFusion root folder: Web root: Root URL: Some background information on remote server: It is a vps running ColdFusion 9. The server is located in the default location. When I compile my app locally and ftp it to the server, it works without change. However, when the person I hired goes to set up the project, it says the folder does not exist (which is doesn't...as Flex is looking locally). I would like to be able to set it up so he can compile and debug against the remote application. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark
Re: [flexcoders] Compiling and debugging against a remote Coldfusion server
Do you have a code repository for the ColdFusion content setup? (ie. Subversion, CVS, TeamSite, etc...) I have never debugged against a remote ColdFusion server, but it looks possible: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusionBuilder/Using/WS0ef8c004658c1089-31c11ef1121cdfd6aa0-7fef.html You'll need to have RDS enabled on your remote server... instructions here if you already have CF installed... I am not sure if you need to have included it during the ColdFusion install, or if you can simply enable after the fact. http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/disabling-enabling-coldfusion-rds-production.html If you have a code repository, then you could check out your central CF code to any development or production machine allowing you to keep that common set of files you desire. Then you can have your development versions of ColdFusion using this code, and allowing you to setup the debug environment locally. To my knowledge, you're not going to be able to run MS Access on the Mac environment, however, that's not a big deal... just host the MS Access content on a remote server, and setup your local CF development version to have a datasource pointing to the remote database. I use Mac for my development environment, and target Windows and Linux production servers. Having the code repository allows me to develop locally with my Mac environment, with local CF, database and Flex content... when I'm ready, I simply synchronize with repository and then do the same on my production versions to get the most up to date code. Setting up the local Mac dev environment with CF and Flex is very straight forward. You use the same services-config.xml, remoting-config.mxml files as you have on the production server to define end points for RemoteObject calls, so everything in seamless when the code hits the server. In your Flex project properties, you target your local version of the services-config.xml file (which sits in the .../Coldfusion8/wwwroot/WEB-INF/flex-config directory locally) and when the application compiles, it uses the defined configuration here. Once it is on the server, you have the same version of the file running on your ColdFusion instance and everything is fine. In short, take the time and make the effort to get a proper development version running, and don't try to develop against remote servers. Regardless of Windows or Mac, you want all of your developers to use remote development environments. I've worked on teams with mixed OS environments like this, and it's possible to do. If you're interested, and have the budget, I can spend a couple hours with you to get the right environment setup. All of the Flex development I've done since 2004 is against ColdFusion backends and I'm more than familiar with it. If you think we can solve this with general questions via this forum, then I'm happy to help here as well... but there's only so much you can solve with generalizations vs. actually seeing your setup and being able to help hands on. I hope this helps a bit, and feel free to continue to ask questions... Brendan On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Mark Fuqua m...@availdata.com wrote: be
