Re: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be hired as a Flex Developer

2010-02-18 Thread claudiu ursica
It depends on the company. At Betfair we have dedicated java teams so the UI 
teams only do UI. Doesn;t matter if it is Flex/Flash/HTML/Ajax, we rarely touch 
the java code. You are not screwed you just need to find the right employer :).
C






From: fred44455 fred44...@yahoo.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 12:06:09 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be 
hired as a Flex Developer

   
How much knowledge in Java do they required?? I mean that's ridiculous , last 
year there were just a few companies who were requiring some Java Knowledge now 
80% of the job ads for Flex Developers (on dice.com) require some Knowledge in 
java. I understand that it is probably to connect to back end servers. My 
question is : How much knowledge are we talking about here?? I know nothing 
about Java. so I guess I am screwed?
You end up finishing learning Flex to find out that they require another core 
technology!! That;'s stupid.

Thank you.


 


  

Re: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be hired as a Flex Developer

2010-02-18 Thread Dan Pride
I see the same jobs I interviewed for Months ago go back up on the boards again 
and again. Its getting to the point where a recuriter letter starts sounding 
like a Nigerian scam letter,... just something to waste my time with.
I am not sure if its the language or the depression, but Breaking into this 
langugage is absurdly difficult.

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From: claudiu ursica the_bran...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be 
hired as a Flex Developer
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 5:02 AM







 



  



  
  
  It depends on the company. At Betfair we have dedicated java teams so the 
UI teams only do UI. Doesn;t matter if it is Flex/Flash/HTML/ Ajax, we rarely 
touch the java code. You are not screwed you just need to find the right 
employer :).
C


From: fred44455 fred44...@yahoo. com
To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 12:06:09 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be 
hired as a Flex Developer









 




  
  
  How much knowledge in Java do they required?? I mean that's ridiculous , 
last year there were just a few companies who were requiring some Java 
Knowledge now 80% of the job ads for Flex Developers (on dice.com) require some 
Knowledge in java. I understand that it is probably to connect to back end 
servers. My question is : How much knowledge are we talking about here?? I know 
nothing about Java. so I guess I am screwed?

You end up finishing learning Flex to find out that they require another core 
technology!! That;'s stupid.



Thank you.






 








  


 





 



  






  

[flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be hired as a Flex Developer

2010-02-17 Thread fred44455
How much knowledge in Java do they required?? I mean that's ridiculous , last 
year there were just a few companies who were requiring some Java Knowledge now 
80% of the job ads for Flex Developers (on dice.com) require some Knowledge in 
java. I understand that it is probably to connect to back end servers. My 
question is : How much knowledge are we talking about here?? I know nothing 
about Java. so I guess I am screwed?
You end up finishing learning Flex to find out that they require another core 
technology!! That;'s stupid.

Thank you.



Re: [flexcoders] How much knowledge in Java do you actually need to be hired as a Flex Developer

2010-02-17 Thread Tibor Ballai
Hi Fred,

As the reasons they ask for Java vary, so does the required level of 
knowledge...

If they are looking for an end-to-end developer they require a pretty 
solid knowledge of Java.
If they are looking for a Flex UI developer with Java knowledge (so 
you'll have a basic idea on how to integrate with an existing backend), 
that knowledge can be minimal.

There is a 3rd case though, which is pretty common.
Since experienced flex developers are in high demand, allot of companies 
are willing to hire Java developers with minimal flex skills (or 
beginner Flex developers with Java skills) to train them as Flex 
developers. In this case, knowing Java tells them that you were able 
master a structured language and it should be fairly easy for you to 
learn Flex.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that you are screwed. While learning Java 
would give you an advantage, if you have a solid knowledge of Flex, in 
most cases, the requirement for Java wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Hope this helps,

Tibor.

www.tiborballai.com




fred44455 wrote:

 How much knowledge in Java do they required?? I mean that's ridiculous 
 , last year there were just a few companies who were requiring some 
 Java Knowledge now 80% of the job ads for Flex Developers (on 
 dice.com) require some Knowledge in java. I understand that it is 
 probably to connect to back end servers. My question is : How much 
 knowledge are we talking about here?? I know nothing about Java. so I 
 guess I am screwed?
 You end up finishing learning Flex to find out that they require 
 another core technology!! That;'s stupid.

 Thank you.

 





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