Re: [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread John Dowdell 
Hi, I'm sorry you're not happy, and I'd like to pursue this. But to 
follow up on this internally I'd need to at least know your name and 
business group.

(Staffers here don't usually have the bandwidth to analyze customer 
projects, so I'm assuming there was some type of business relationship 
involved, some type of contractual clause for mutual satisfaction.)

I'm not sure what I can do yet... can you add some functional detail so 
I can try to help...?

tx,
jd





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Re: [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread Faisal Abid 
t_msreddy wrote:
> I wanted to share this aweful story to this group.
>
> Over months we have been trying to get a Flex expert from Adobe to
> do a code review of our application as a part of our partnership
> building process. They agreed to do it in person and finally on the
> day, they sent out an email saying they cannot come and will do this
> over breeze presentation. This was not ok for us but we had no other
> option and we oked it. BTW the guys were Brian O'Connor, Adobe
> Consulting, John Bennet, Architect.
>
> Finally during the presentation, we went through the agenda for the
> meeting and basically we wanted to get some useful tips for the
> problem we were having in flex app and things that we could not
> implement. Over the presentation, they were treating themselves as
> gods and us as no good developers. And at times it
> went like "OK we got it, next... next", I was very offended while
> driving the presentation. At one point I was showing them a slide
> with cairngorm and i said "we are using viewhelpers and value
> objects and ..", one of the guys said quickly "viewhelpers are
> not values objects".  They were very disrespectful all over the
> meeting. Also he mentioned that Cairngorm is not the bible. So he
> thinks we dont know this?
>
> I mean this is total lack of professionalism by Adobe guys. They
> should treat the flex developer community with respect and show some
> sensitivity when they talk to people and treat them as experts
> rather than "dont-know-even-this-guys".
>
> On top of that they did not give one single useful tip for us. They
> were blabbering like inexperienced developers.
>
>
> All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note this aweful story
>
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You cant call everyone at adobe idiots, becuase of two people , Im sure 
that they didnt want to offend you and it was just in there nature like 
the way they talk , but im sure they didnt want to offend you


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Re: **SL-JUNK** [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread Sreejith Unnikrishnan 





What was the purpose of this mail?
 
> I mean this is 
total lack of professionalism 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  t_msreddy 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:14 
PM
  Subject: **SL-JUNK** [flexcoders] All the 
  bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!
  I wanted to share this aweful story to this 
  group.Over months we have been trying to get a Flex expert from Adobe 
  to do a code review of our application as a part of our partnership 
  building process. They agreed to do it in person and finally on the 
  day, they sent out an email saying they cannot come and will do this 
  over breeze presentation. This was not ok for us but we had no other 
  option and we oked it. BTW the guys were Brian O'Connor, Adobe 
  Consulting, John Bennet, Architect.Finally during the 
  presentation, we went through the agenda for the meeting and basically we 
  wanted to get some useful tips for the problem we were having in flex app 
  and things that we could not implement. Over the presentation, they were 
  treating themselves as gods and us as no good developers. And at times it 
  went like "OK we got it, next... next", I was very offended while 
  driving the presentation. At one point I was showing them a slide with 
  cairngorm and i said "we are using viewhelpers and value objects and ..", 
  one of the guys said quickly "viewhelpers are not values objects".  
  They were very disrespectful all over the meeting. Also he mentioned that 
  Cairngorm is not the bible. So he thinks we dont know this?I mean 
  this is total lack of professionalism by Adobe guys. They should treat the 
  flex developer community with respect and show some sensitivity when they 
  talk to people and treat them as experts rather than 
  "dont-know-even-this-guys".On top of that they did not give one single 
  useful tip for us. They were blabbering like inexperienced 
  developers.All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note this 
  aweful story





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[flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread t_msreddy 
I wanted to share this aweful story to this group.

Over months we have been trying to get a Flex expert from Adobe to 
do a code review of our application as a part of our partnership 
building process. They agreed to do it in person and finally on the 
day, they sent out an email saying they cannot come and will do this 
over breeze presentation. This was not ok for us but we had no other 
option and we oked it. BTW the guys were Brian O'Connor, Adobe 
Consulting, John Bennet, Architect.

Finally during the presentation, we went through the agenda for the 
meeting and basically we wanted to get some useful tips for the 
problem we were having in flex app and things that we could not 
implement. Over the presentation, they were treating themselves as 
gods and us as no good developers. And at times it 
went like "OK we got it, next... next", I was very offended while 
driving the presentation. At one point I was showing them a slide 
with cairngorm and i said "we are using viewhelpers and value 
objects and ..", one of the guys said quickly "viewhelpers are 
not values objects".  They were very disrespectful all over the 
meeting. Also he mentioned that Cairngorm is not the bible. So he 
thinks we dont know this?

I mean this is total lack of professionalism by Adobe guys. They 
should treat the flex developer community with respect and show some 
sensitivity when they talk to people and treat them as experts 
rather than "dont-know-even-this-guys".

On top of that they did not give one single useful tip for us. They 
were blabbering like inexperienced developers.


All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note this aweful story







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