Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
On Thursday 01 Mar 2007, Impudent1 wrote: So am I to take this that Apollo will not let me deal with a remote filesystem? If I cannot read/write files from a workstation to a server, or deal with a remote data connection, Apollo suddenly seems really useless for my app :( You can always send the file to the server, same as you can now from Flex. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to augmentatively disintermediate low-risk design-patterns On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Oh yeah, did he say: limited to 2g As in a 2GB POST limit? That doesn't seem like much of a limit. I may question the logic of posting a 2G file! If that's not the current limit, what is? Tom, what's the current method you're referring to, for 'sending' files to server? -Scott On 3/2/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 01 Mar 2007, Impudent1 wrote: So am I to take this that Apollo will not let me deal with a remote filesystem? If I cannot read/write files from a workstation to a server, or deal with a remote data connection, Apollo suddenly seems really useless for my app :( You can always send the file to the server, same as you can now from Flex. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to augmentatively disintermediate low-risk design-patterns On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- : : ) Scott
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
slangeberg wrote: Oh yeah, did he say: limited to 2g As in a 2GB POST limit? That doesn't seem like much of a limit. I may question the logic of posting a 2G file! If that's not the current limit, what is? fwiw , this is an internal video approval system app, and 2g is nothing for even flv files on longer forms Tom, what's the current method you're referring to, for 'sending' files to server? I would be interested in this as well. Impudent1 LeapFrog Productions
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Impudent1 wrote: So am I to take this that Apollo will not let me deal with a remote filesystem? If I cannot read/write files from a workstation to a server, or deal with a remote data connection, Apollo suddenly seems really useless for my app :( There's no reason that you'd even need Apollo to do that. Flash Player 9 already has all you need for building libraries to connect to all sorts of remote filesystems: sockets, binary and otherwise. Sockets are pretty much all you need for implementing whatever remote filesystem protocol that happens to float your boat, be it WebDAV, FTP, SCP or more esoteric protocols like SMB and NFS. From previous work I've done implementing WebDAV for AJAX applications over XMLHTTPRequest, I seriously doubt that'd take more than a day or two of effort. Some of the other protocols might be trickier though, especially if you need to re-implement some heavy lifting in the form of encryption algorithms for authentication or stream protection. Apollo, however, might make remote access in general easier for all of us if Adobe got rid of the crossdomain access restrictions for desktop applications though. Jim Cheng effectiveUI Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Flash Player 9 already has all you need for building libraries to connect to all sorts of remote filesystems: sockets, binary and otherwise. Agreed, I was hoping that Apollo would deal with the heavy lifting on some of this stuff vs giving front end components was the main gist of my original post. Impudent1 LeapFrog Productions Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
fyi ... A sample chapter is available for download: Chapter 4: Using the File System API (PDF Format) http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596513917/chapter/ It is from this book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide A Developer's Reference for Apollo's Alpha Release by Mike Chambers, Rob Dixon, Jeff Swartz http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596513917/ It is a small format book, and only 144 pages. Amazon is taking Pre-Orders: http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Adobe-Developers-Pocket-Guide/dp/0596513917/
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Just taking a quick look and this concerns me: Apollo provides a file I/O API that lets applications read and write files and directories on the user’s computer... The Flex framework for Apollo includes components for working with files and directories, but these are graphical components for navigating the file system and selecting files and directories. They do not pro- vide direct access to the more fundamental file I/O operations Apollo will eventually provide a complete security model for managing access to local resources, such as the file system... So am I to take this that Apollo will not let me deal with a remote filesystem? If I cannot read/write files from a workstation to a server, or deal with a remote data connection, Apollo suddenly seems really useless for my app :( Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Uh, you're still going to have 'at least' all those capabilities (talking to networked service) already existing in Flex.. What kind of functionality / library / language are you comparing this to? -Scott On 3/1/07, Impudent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just taking a quick look and this concerns me: Apollo provides a file I/O API that lets applications read and write files and directories on the user's computer... The Flex framework for Apollo includes components for working with files and directories, but these are graphical components for navigating the file system and selecting files and directories. They do not pro- vide direct access to the more fundamental file I/O operations Apollo will eventually provide a complete security model for managing access to local resources, such as the file system... So am I to take this that Apollo will not let me deal with a remote filesystem? If I cannot read/write files from a workstation to a server, or deal with a remote data connection, Apollo suddenly seems really useless for my app :( -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- : : ) Scott
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
slangeberg wrote: Uh, you're still going to have 'at least' all those capabilities (talking to networked service) already existing in Flex.. What kind of functionality / library / language are you comparing this to? Well I still have not seen how this will dovetail into the offline/online ability shown in say the ebay desktop app. If it can for example hold a users file uploads in the local cache and then on connect it will relogin/sync to the database and upload. And in doing this are we going to be limited to sending files to a remote server ala http post type commands with php etc and limited to 2g because of it and sandbox issues? From the text it seemed that all the flex apollo components would give is file selection and nav, not anything to do with user permissions, finding size of a dir , appending to files, changing attribs etc. Impudent1 LeapFrog Productions
Re: [flexcoders] Apollo Book: Apollo for Adobe Flex Developers Pocket Guide
Binary sockets, for one.. Any other ideas out there? -Scott On 3/1/07, Impudent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slangeberg wrote: Uh, you're still going to have 'at least' all those capabilities (talking to networked service) already existing in Flex.. What kind of functionality / library / language are you comparing this to? Well I still have not seen how this will dovetail into the offline/online ability shown in say the ebay desktop app. If it can for example hold a users file uploads in the local cache and then on connect it will relogin/sync to the database and upload. And in doing this are we going to be limited to sending files to a remote server ala http post type commands with php etc and limited to 2g because of it and sandbox issues? From the text it seemed that all the flex apollo components would give is file selection and nav, not anything to do with user permissions, finding size of a dir , appending to files, changing attribs etc. Impudent1 LeapFrog Productions -- : : ) Scott
