RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Jason Hawryluk
+5 fro Sqlite absolutely. Why MySQL? It's a server product not a embedded
db.

jason



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  SQLite ;-)
  http://www.sqlite.org/

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  I vote for MySQL.
  



  


RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Jason Hawryluk
My bad, there is an embedded version of MySQL.

Still think SQLLite is the best contender here.

jason


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  +5 fro Sqlite absolutely. Why MySQL? It's a server product not a embedded
db.

  jason



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SQLite ;-)
http://www.sqlite.org/

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I vote for MySQL.





  


RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Samuel R. Neff

Definitely +1 to SQLite.  It makes the most sense as it's the smallest
footprint and requires zero administration.

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I vote for MySQL.




Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 07 Mar 2007, hank williams wrote:
 +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the
 country.

Depends how it works.
Maybe there's an 
apollo:Database /
tag, with a 'type' parameter :-)

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RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Jason Hawryluk
I think that if we could talk to a dll (Mac equivalent, Linux equivalent)
like via a local remote call type thing, then that would be the ultimate. I
don't think distributing the dll (etc..) would be a big deal. With that you'
d basically use any DB you like. Plus allot of other crazy stuff you could
do.

Anyway, guess we'll have to wait and see :°

jason

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On Wednesday 07 Mar 2007, hank williams wrote:
 +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the
 country.

Depends how it works.
Maybe there's an
apollo:Database /
tag, with a 'type' parameter :-)

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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread hank williams
Apollo is not supporting any DLL stuff at this time for security reasons.

Hank

On 3/7/07, Jason Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think that if we could talk to a dll (Mac equivalent, Linux equivalent)
 like via a local remote call type thing, then that would be the ultimate. I
 don't think distributing the dll (etc..) would be a big deal. With that you'
 d basically use any DB you like. Plus allot of other crazy stuff you could
 do.

 Anyway, guess we'll have to wait and see :°

 jason

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 On Wednesday 07 Mar 2007, hank williams wrote:
  +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the
  country.

 Depends how it works.
 Maybe there's an
 apollo:Database /
 tag, with a 'type' parameter :-)

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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Impudent1
hank williams wrote:
 +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the country.


Hmm, well considering Adobe already does it with bridge I disagree :) (using 
libmysqld and storing data in Adobe Bridge/db_support/data).

so besides that Adobe already uses,distributes it as its own embedded db, its 
cross platform, and cost effective. It would also easily dovetail into my 
existing php/mysql app structures

That said I have never played with sqlite and will have to take look at it. 
From 
the faqs, I did see that only one process can write to the db at a time vs 
mysql 
being able to do multiple processes, so depending on what type of apps your 
creating if concurrency matters I would think mysql a better choice. I do love 
the simplicity of the sqlite concept tho :)

Impudent1
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RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Samuel R. Neff

Adobe also uses SQLite.  

The concurrency stuff in the FAQ is extremely misleading.  Only one process
can write to a database file at a time, but sql is processed in cache and
writes happen in nanoseconds so in reality SQLite supports high concurrency.
In our testing we found SQLite to perform most queries in one quarter the
time required for MSSQL (we didn't test MySQL).
 
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hank williams wrote:
 +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the
country.


Hmm, well considering Adobe already does it with bridge I disagree :) (using

libmysqld and storing data in Adobe Bridge/db_support/data).

so besides that Adobe already uses,distributes it as its own embedded db,
its 
cross platform, and cost effective. It would also easily dovetail into my 
existing php/mysql app structures

That said I have never played with sqlite and will have to take look at it.
From 
the faqs, I did see that only one process can write to the db at a time vs
mysql 
being able to do multiple processes, so depending on what type of apps your 
creating if concurrency matters I would think mysql a better choice. I do
love 
the simplicity of the sqlite concept tho :)

Impudent1
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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread hank williams
On 3/7/07, Impudent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hank williams wrote:
  +1 sqlite. MySQL is impractical to put on everyones computer in the country.


 Hmm, well considering Adobe already does it with bridge I disagree :)

hmm... I dont have bridge on my computer. Dont even know what it is.
So I guess I would have to disagree that it is on every computer,
whereas flash and therefore apollo almost certainly will be :)

 That said I have never played with sqlite and will have to take look at it. 
 From
 the faqs, I did see that only one process can write to the db at a time vs 
 mysql
 being able to do multiple processes, so depending on what type of apps your
 creating if concurrency matters I would think mysql a better choice. I do love
 the simplicity of the sqlite concept tho :)

mysql is clearly more robust - and complex - than sqlite, which is
exactly the point. Its overkill, with the single benefit of being
familiar. But you will not be able to port code since sql is always
tied into the language that is used to access it, like php, or java or
whatever. AS3 will be a new language environment for accessing
databases, so there will not be much portability other than data
files, which isnt much of a benefit.

Regards,
Hank


Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread Abdul Qabiz

Great.

eLearning applications and occasionally connected clients would benefit from
it.

Some projects in India, for rural-internet-connectivity, can be done faster.

Where some computers in different villages get connected to Internet (via
WIFI access-point setup on moving school bus) for an hour or so, during that
time they download data for all requested queries. People benefit from it
even after latency of one-day.

With Apollo I can imagine a kiosk, which would allow to do such things. I
would love to contribute for this good cause.

Please let me know, if any of you are already working on something like
that.

-abdul


On 3/3/07, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   The Apollo team is considering integrating a SQL database into the
Apollo runtime.

- Gordon

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  Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers… There's no
reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the Apollo
application.

Shan

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  I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]rsprague%40infusion-studios.com
wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ



  



Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread Impudent1
Russell Sprague wrote:
 I vote for MySQL.

Agreed

Impudent1
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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread Muzak
SQLite ;-)
http://www.sqlite.org/


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I vote for MySQL.





RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-05 Thread David Mendels
Hi,
 
Some version of this will happen.  The question is when.  It certainly
will not be in the first public developer betas of Apollo.  And I can't
guarantee when it will be in Apollo (later beta? 1.0? 1.X?), but we all
agree it should and will happen. 
 
:)
 
-David
Apollo



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This is what I am hoping for.

Rich


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The Apollo team is considering integrating a SQL database into
the Apollo runtime.
 
- Gordon



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Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers...
There's no reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to
the Apollo application.



Shan



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I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rsprague%40infusion-studios.com  wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local
database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that
will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of
desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It
would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because
of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it
when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ
















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RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-05 Thread Shannon Hicks
That would make offline features very easy to implement. I'd love to see
this!

 

Shan

 

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Behalf Of Rich Tretola
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This is what I am hoping for.

Rich

On 3/2/07, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The Apollo team is considering integrating a SQL database into the Apollo
runtime.

 

- Gordon

 

  _  

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Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:00 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers. There's no
reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the Apollo
application.

Shan

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Abdul Qabiz
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:20 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rsprague%40infusion-studios.com  wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ






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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-05 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Sunday 04 Mar 2007, David Mendels wrote:
 agree it should and will happen.

\o/

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Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-03 Thread Rich Tretola

This is what I am hoping for.

Rich

On 3/2/07, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   The Apollo team is considering integrating a SQL database into the
Apollo runtime.

- Gordon

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*From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
Behalf Of *Shannon Hicks
*Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2007 7:00 AM
*To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

  Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers… There's no
reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the Apollo
application.

Shan

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Behalf Of *Abdul Qabiz
*Sent:* Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:20 PM
*To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
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  I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]rsprague%40infusion-studios.com
wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ



  





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RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-02 Thread Shannon Hicks
Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers. There's no
reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the Apollo
application.

 

Shan

 

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Behalf Of Abdul Qabiz
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:20 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

 

I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rsprague%40infusion-studios.com  wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ



 



RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-02 Thread Gordon Smith
The Apollo team is considering integrating a SQL database into the
Apollo runtime.
 
- Gordon



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Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:00 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo



Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers... There's
no reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the
Apollo application.

Shan

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Abdul Qabiz
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:20 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rsprague%40infusion-studios.com  wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list. Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution? It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL. It would be
a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue. Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ



 


[flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-01 Thread Russell Sprague
I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database 
access in Apollos feature list.  Is this something that will/has 
changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community 
contribution?  It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop 
apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL.  It would be a 
shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this 
issue.  Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe 
added this to the feature list. 

Russ



Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo

2007-03-01 Thread Abdul Qabiz
I can imagine of doing that with Apollo. I would post soon .

On 3/1/07, Russell Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I noticed a while back that there wasn't any kind of local database
 access in Apollos feature list.  Is this something that will/has
 changed, or are the devs thinking this will be a community
 contribution?  It seems to me that DB access is a big part of desktop
 apps, I have built a couple using Flash, Zinc, and MySQL.  It would be a
 shame to not be able to use Apollo for some projects because of this
 issue.  Hopefully someone can tell me that I just missed it when Adobe
 added this to the feature list.

 Russ