RE: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate
Awesome! Thanks so much!! I believe that were on the cusp of an irreversible internet revolution ..! Free SDK . 3rd Party IDE Unparalleled web experience .. I can see it now Yes kids, believe it or not when I was a coder, websites didnt hardly move at all and everytime you wanted something to happen, the WHOLE PAGE had to load again! :^) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate Evan Gifford wrote: What's curious to me is that flash player 8 was not markedly faster due to new in-context upgrade (which I have had some trouble with). http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannu/148867953/ It may be hard to see on that graph, but I do know that the Flash Player 8 adoption rate exceeded that of v7 and prior... new records were definitely set on this round, both before and after the auto-update kicked in. (When I look closely at that chart it seems to be showing beta adoption as well... Flash Player 8 was released to the general public in the last few days of August 2005... I think that chart is a rough estimate, given that we've only seen two NPD audit periods so far, and that December 2006 has not quite arrived yet. ;-) Does anyone have a way to project the Flash player 9 adoption rate with the new in context upgrade? Also, I've called adobe last week and after some probing, got an updated couple week Flex 2.0 time estimate! can I trust this? It's hard for me to predict the future. I see no reason to expect that the trends would reverse. The increasing acceptance of web video over the psat three months seems like it would offer even more update spurs. But then again, in March NPD found that above 70% of consumers tested already had the 8.0 Player, which will suffice for most video sites for awhile. If you're trying to make a case to a client, I might suggest saying it will be darn fast... that historical graph bears this out. Beyond that, looking carefully at the client's particular audience may help... if users do not have installation privileges on the machines they use, for instance, then the general consumer adoption rate may not matter so much as the IT staffing for a particular audience. (That Flex 2.0 Really Soon Now estimate matches the guidance I've seen on this list, as well as elsewhere... I don't know the date, but we're close.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate
I like this guy ;-) This is what I have seen also, the Internet and it's experience is going to be irreversible. Just from all the other techs, another dot com boom is in the midst but, play your cards right tihis time folks. Patients always wins in the ling run and man the last 5 years has been just that. My son will laugh at the things I thought were kewl. Peace, MikeOn 6/14/06, Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome! Thanks so much!! I believe that we're on the cusp of an irreversible internet revolution …..! Free SDK …. 3rd Party IDE … Unparalleled web experience .. I can see it now … "Yes kids, believe it or not when I was a coder, websites didn't hardly move at all … and everytime you wanted something to happen, the WHOLE PAGE had to load again!" :^) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate Evan Gifford wrote: What's curious to me is that flash player 8 was not markedly faster due to new in-context upgrade (which I have had some trouble with). http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannu/148867953/ It may be hard to see on that graph, but I do know that the Flash Player 8 adoption rate exceeded that of v7 and prior... new records were definitely set on this round, both before and after the auto-update kicked in. (When I look closely at that chart it seems to be showing beta adoption as well... Flash Player 8 was released to the general public in the last few days of August 2005... I think that chart is a rough estimate, given that we've only seen two NPD audit periods so far, and that December 2006 has not quite arrived yet. ;-) Does anyone have a way to project the Flash player 9 adoption rate with the new in context upgrade? Also, I've called adobe last week and after some probing, got an updated couple week Flex 2.0 time estimate! can I trust this? It's hard for me to predict the future. I see no reason to expect that the trends would reverse. The increasing acceptance of web video over the psat three months seems like it would offer even more update spurs. But then again, in March NPD found that above 70% of consumers tested already had the 8.0 Player, which will suffice for most video sites for awhile. If you're trying to make a case to a client, I might suggest saying it will be darn fast... that historical graph bears this out. Beyond that, looking carefully at the client's particular audience may help... if users do not have installation privileges on the machines they use, for instance, then the general consumer adoption rate may not matter so much as the IT staffing for a particular audience. (That Flex 2.0 Really Soon Now estimate matches the guidance I've seen on this list, as well as elsewhere... I don't know the date, but we're close.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. -- What goes up, does come down. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate
I am not too old but I too have observed great things, I would probably stop believing (after some years) how web used to be in back 1998-2001 :)-abdulOn 6/15/06, Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this guy ;-) This is what I have seen also, the Internet and it's experience is going to be irreversible. Just from all the other techs, another dot com boom is in the midst but, play your cards right tihis time folks. Patients always wins in the ling run and man the last 5 years has been just that. My son will laugh at the things I thought were kewl. Peace, MikeOn 6/14/06, Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome! Thanks so much!! I believe that we're on the cusp of an irreversible internet revolution …..! Free SDK …. 3rd Party IDE … Unparalleled web experience .. I can see it now … Yes kids, believe it or not when I was a coder, websites didn't hardly move at all … and everytime you wanted something to happen, the WHOLE PAGE had to load again! :^) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate Evan Gifford wrote: What's curious to me is that flash player 8 was not markedly faster due to new in-context upgrade (which I have had some trouble with). http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannu/148867953/ It may be hard to see on that graph, but I do know that the Flash Player 8 adoption rate exceeded that of v7 and prior... new records were definitely set on this round, both before and after the auto-update kicked in. (When I look closely at that chart it seems to be showing beta adoption as well... Flash Player 8 was released to the general public in the last few days of August 2005... I think that chart is a rough estimate, given that we've only seen two NPD audit periods so far, and that December 2006 has not quite arrived yet. ;-) Does anyone have a way to project the Flash player 9 adoption rate with the new in context upgrade? Also, I've called adobe last week and after some probing, got an updated couple week Flex 2.0 time estimate! can I trust this? It's hard for me to predict the future. I see no reason to expect that the trends would reverse. The increasing acceptance of web video over the psat three months seems like it would offer even more update spurs. But then again, in March NPD found that above 70% of consumers tested already had the 8.0 Player, which will suffice for most video sites for awhile. If you're trying to make a case to a client, I might suggest saying it will be darn fast... that historical graph bears this out. Beyond that, looking carefully at the client's particular audience may help... if users do not have installation privileges on the machines they use, for instance, then the general consumer adoption rate may not matter so much as the IT staffing for a particular audience. (That Flex 2.0 Really Soon Now estimate matches the guidance I've seen on this list, as well as elsewhere... I don't know the date, but we're close.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. -- What goes up, does come down. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate
I found this interesting graph from Manish Jethani which shows flash player adoption rates. What's curious to me is that flash player 8 was not markedly faster due to new in-context upgrade (which I have had some trouble with). http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannu/148867953/ Does anyone have a way to project the Flash player 9 adoption rate with the new in context upgrade? Also, I've called adobe last week and after some probing, got an updated couple week Flex 2.0 time estimate! can I trust this? Thanks, Evan Gifford Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flash Player 9 Projected Adoption rate
Evan Gifford wrote: What's curious to me is that flash player 8 was not markedly faster due to new in-context upgrade (which I have had some trouble with). http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannu/148867953/ It may be hard to see on that graph, but I do know that the Flash Player 8 adoption rate exceeded that of v7 and prior... new records were definitely set on this round, both before and after the auto-update kicked in. (When I look closely at that chart it seems to be showing beta adoption as well... Flash Player 8 was released to the general public in the last few days of August 2005... I think that chart is a rough estimate, given that we've only seen two NPD audit periods so far, and that December 2006 has not quite arrived yet. ;-) Does anyone have a way to project the Flash player 9 adoption rate with the new in context upgrade? Also, I've called adobe last week and after some probing, got an updated couple week Flex 2.0 time estimate! can I trust this? It's hard for me to predict the future. I see no reason to expect that the trends would reverse. The increasing acceptance of web video over the psat three months seems like it would offer even more update spurs. But then again, in March NPD found that above 70% of consumers tested already had the 8.0 Player, which will suffice for most video sites for awhile. If you're trying to make a case to a client, I might suggest saying it will be darn fast... that historical graph bears this out. Beyond that, looking carefully at the client's particular audience may help... if users do not have installation privileges on the machines they use, for instance, then the general consumer adoption rate may not matter so much as the IT staffing for a particular audience. (That Flex 2.0 Really Soon Now estimate matches the guidance I've seen on this list, as well as elsewhere... I don't know the date, but we're close.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
