[flexcoders] FlexBuilder 2 Mac Beta Expired!
I just started up FlexBuilder 2 on my Mac and I received a message that the trial period has expired. My only options are to purchase FlexBuilder 2 or exit. Since FlexBuilder 2 isn't available for purchase yet, what can I do to get the Mac beta running again? Thanks for any help! Paul
RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Hi, To be clear, we intend to support Flex Builder on the Mac. However, we don't have a schedule for this yet---it will be after the 1.0 Windows version ships. But we will get there. -David From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob RusherSent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:28 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on aMac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but Iwouldn't hold your breath.Rob RusherRIA ConsultantMacromedia Certified Flex Instructore:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher-Original Message-From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of tobiaspattonSent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on MacAnyone get this to work?I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins,etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will notopen the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165)A couple things I've noticed: in the "About Eclipse" dialog (under the Helpmenu), the "Flex" logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also,under "installed features", none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst ofall, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top:os="win32"ws="win32"Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac?Thanks.Tobias.--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Title: Re: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Ah sorry... Just read all the preceding emails in the thread... I guess its been cover ;-) On 1/26/06 10:31 PM, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, To be clear, we intend to support Flex Builder on the Mac. However, we don't have a schedule for this yet---it will be after the 1.0 Windows version ships. But we will get there. -David From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Rusher Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on a Mac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Web+site+design+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=L-4QTvxB_quFDtMyhrQa Computer software development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Computer+software+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=lvQjSRfQDfWudJSe1l Software design and development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+design+and+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=1pMBCdo3DsJbuU9A Macromedia flex http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=OO6nPIrz7_EpZI36cYzBjw Software development best practice http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+development+best+practicew1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=f89quyyulIDsn YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . / \ PETER BAIRD 888/ \888 User Experience Consultant 88/ / \88 Adobe Consulting | Adobe Systems, Inc 8/ /8\ \8 275 Grove St. Newton, MA / /888\ \ Office: 617.219.2126 | Cell: 617.803.6804 \8\ AIM: pbaird00 | Y!IM: pbaird00 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups
Re: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Title: Re: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Also to note, just because Flex Builder for the Mac isnt yet available, that doesnt mean you cant develop for flex on a mac. You can develop and compile for flex 2.0 today on a mac. Several resources have explained how... http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_Framework:tutorials:mac_development http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh/archives/2006/01/resources_for_c.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh/archives/2005/12/compiling_actio.cfm And the eclipse platform, the underpinnings for FlexBuilder 2.0 is also readily available for the mac, ( http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/) along with some plugins for MXML ... Its by no stretch of the imagination FlexBuilder 2.0 as far as features are concerned, but it should hold Mac developers off until it is available. -p On 1/26/06 10:31 PM, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, To be clear, we intend to support Flex Builder on the Mac. However, we don't have a schedule for this yet---it will be after the 1.0 Windows version ships. But we will get there. -David From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Rusher Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on a Mac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Web+site+design+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=L-4QTvxB_quFDtMyhrQa Computer software development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Computer+software+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=lvQjSRfQDfWudJSe1l Software design and development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+design+and+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=1pMBCdo3DsJbuU9A Macromedia flex http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=OO6nPIrz7_EpZI36cYzBjw Software development best practice http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+development+best+practicew1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=f89quyyulIDsn YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . / \ PETER BAIRD 888/ \888 User Experience Consultant 88/ / \88 Adobe Consulting | Adobe Systems, Inc 8/ /8\ \8 275 Grove St. Newton, MA / /888\ \ Office: 617.219.2126 | Cell: 617.803.6804 \8\ AIM: pbaird00 | Y!IM: pbaird00 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http
RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
I guess the dont hold your breath was taken wrong. J Its going to be a few months before you see a Mac version (I for one, cant hold my breath that long). Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:32 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Hi, To be clear, we intend to support Flex Builder on the Mac. However, we don't have a schedule for this yet---it will be after the 1.0 Windows version ships. But we will get there. -David From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rusher Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on a Mac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Ever? Yes. Now? No. We had to prioritize our engineering schedule and the Windows version has to come first. We will be trying to get the Mac version out soon after (don't ask how soon, we don't know how long it will take). Matt -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on a Mac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Hi folks. I think don't hold your breath is a bit strong... We're planning on releasing a Mac version of Flex Builder. Just not simultaneously with the Windows release. Thanks, -Sho -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Rusher Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:28 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Neither the current version nor the upcoming Flex Builder 2 will work on a Mac. There is talk about maybe supporting a Mac in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rob Rusher RIA Consultant Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tobiaspatton Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac Anyone get this to work? I installed Eclipse 3.1 on my Mac and copied over the features, plugins, etc. from a Windows install of FlexBuilder. The IDE launches but will not open the MXML editor. The following exception is logged to console: java.lang.NullPointerException at zorn.editors.mxml.MXMLEditor.init(MXMLEditor.java:165) A couple things I've noticed: in the About Eclipse dialog (under the Help menu), the Flex logo does not appear alongside the Eclipse logo. Also, under installed features, none of the zorn.* features appear. Worst of all, the zorn features xml files have the following lines at the top: os=win32 ws=win32 Anyone know if it will ever be possible to run FlexBuilder on a Mac? Thanks. Tobias. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] FlexBuilder on Mac
Hi! Is anybody running FlexBuilder on Mac OS X? I mean with sth like VirtualPC or sth else? Is this possible? How fast / useable is this? I'm going for a new notebook and it will get a mac and so I want to know how to code my flex apps in future. Is there another IDE for coding flex? When will Zorn be released? Thanks for your help! Bye, Fritz -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
