Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)

2005-03-31 Thread John Dowdell

Benjamin Dobler wrote:
 Why no open source Flex?
 I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components,
 creating Actionscript components
 It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex.

That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true.

One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to 
define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and 
databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to 
describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media 
sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there 
have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of 
SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole 
subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people 
tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director 
experience in XML.)

Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to 
construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some 
cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to 
construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at 
author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each 
request at serving time (as Flex usually does).

I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then 
constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have 
its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios.

jd



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Re: [flexcoders] Open Source Flex? (was: pricing)

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes

Oh and then theres that small little umm requirement

time.

I agree, I remember back in the day i stupidly had this idea of using
XML and Flash 6 together to describe my UI... Libby then invited me to
this product called Royale and said check that out... it blew my mind
as to how damn powerful it was and dwarfed any concept i had floating
around in my head.

At the same time Claus released DENG and again i was blown away by XML
and FLASH together (sure his was more about XHTML etc).

Point is this, the products been ready for the past couple of years
yet the people who have tried it are either held back by time or loose
interest.



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:47:55 -0800, John Dowdell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Benjamin Dobler wrote:
  Why no open source Flex?
  I mean the swf format is open. The tools are their. Merging components,
  creating Actionscript components
  It`s all doable and there is nothing magical about flex.
 
 That's true. It's not a trivial undertaking, but it's certainly true.
 
 One of the first things to consider is the XML language you'll use to
 define the final SWF experience. Flex's MXML handles layout and
 databinding of a particular component set. This isn't the only way to
 describe a SWF experience in XML... SMIL has defined layout and media
 sequencing in XML, SVG has described vector graphics in XML, and there
 have been a few projects over the years which describe various types of
 SWF experiences in XML. (One of the first discussions on this whole
 subject was when XML was first introduced in the late 1990s, and people
 tried to figure out useful ways to describe a Macromedia Director
 experience in XML.)
 
 Once you figure out your XML abstraction, then the next step would be to
 construct a SWF by those instructions. This could be done in-SWF in some
 cases (an HTML page holding a SWF which then requests an XML file to
 construct slideshow sequences, for instance), or once in production at
 author-time (those static SWFs that Flex can make), or fresh for each
 request at serving time (as Flex usually does).
 
 I think there's lots of room for various XML languages, which are then
 constructed as SWFs at various times. Each combination would likely have
 its own set of advantages, its own set of best-use scenarios.
 
 jd
 
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