[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-18 Thread r.fender
I think Alchemy (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/alchemy/) might just be 
able to take 
me down the path I need. Plus it might force me to learn C/C++. Not sure if I 
am excited 
about that or not though.


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Nate Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even though this is absolutely a preview / research project at the moment.
 Adobe Alchemy (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/alchemy/):
 Welcome the preview release of codename Alchemy. Alchemy is a research
 project that allows users to compile C and C++ code that is targeted to run
 on the open source ActionScript Virtual Machine (AVM2). The purpose of this
 preview is to assess the level of community interest in reusing existing C
 and C++ libraries in Web applications that run on Adobe(R) Flash(R) Player and
 Adobe AIR(R).
 
 Alchemy will allow you to take a c++ SSH library, such as
 http://www.netsieben.com/products/sshlib/.  I haven't tested this, it's just
 a concept.  But it seems like it might work.  It might be able to give you
 the SSH interaction you're looking for within Flash.
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM, r.fender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using AMFPHP
  to
execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to
  configure the
devices.
  
   Are you saying the existing browser-based version executes commands
  locally
   (i.e. the browser and web server (with AMFPHP both live on the device) ?
 
  If I understand your question correctly, the web server (Apache) and AMFPHP
  are running on
  the device itself. The browser is just what the user has on their local
  machine (Firefox, Safari,
  IE, etc). So if I was the user, I would open a browser and navigate to the
  IP address of the
  device. The device would then just serve up the application.
 
  To use a real device as an example let's just say the device is a DVD
  player and you have the
  ability to log into it via it's IP address on your network and do some
  low-level configurations
  on it. Make sense? I confuse myself on this sometimes :)
 
   
 






Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 14 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
 runs in an embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through
 SSL, using AMFPHP to execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix
 scripts to configure the devices.
 The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use
 AIR, and connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I

Why not have your app push the commands up to a web server, and the device 
polls that server for commands ?

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[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread r.fender

 Why not have your app push the commands up to a web server, and the device 
 polls that server for commands ?

Well, we are polling now for command results and they want real-time returns. 
They want 
me to hook into a socket run a command/unix script and wait for the return. 
Some scripts 
run continuously on the server and return multiple times before completing. 
Currently, I 
have to poll to get those multiple lines of return. The webserver on the device 
is currently 
placed at the lowest priority of the processor (if that's the correct way of 
phrasing it). So if 
I can plug into a socket and sit and wait, then I don't have to keep opening 
and closing 
that HTTP socket for every command.


 
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 17 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
 Well, we are polling now for command results and they want real-time
 returns.

COMET or simaler AJAX techniques any help ?

 Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using AMFPHP to 
 execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure the 
 devices. 

Are you saying the existing browser-based version executes commands locally 
(i.e. the browser and web server (with AMFPHP both live on the device) ?

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[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread r.fender
 Could you use the webkit browser in AIR to do the SSL connection?
 I don't think it needs to be visible to work.
 Just an idea, and It's probable I've not understood the reasons the project 
 managers 
want to use AIR.


That's definitely and idea I hadn't thought about. hurlant's as3crypt library 
has a TCL(ssl) 
connection that works great. Might have to look into that. Thanks for the idea.




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 Sent: Fri 14/11/2008 18:55
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?
  
 Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that runs 
 in an 
 embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using 
 AMFPHP to 
 execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure the 
 devices.
 
 The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use AIR, 
 and 
 connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all 
 the root access 
 permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the cat's 
 meow. I 
can 
 currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no 
 security layer 
on 
 it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton tom.chiverton@ wrote:
 
  On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
   Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all know.
  
  SSH is really, really, complicated.
  What are you trying to achieve ?
  
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[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread r.fender
 Could you use ssh tunneling (outside of your air app). It would mean that
 you would need to install an ssh client and set it up first...
 It dependes if your project is for private consumption or public...

Not sure if the upper-ups would be willing to want to require the admins to 
install 
another item to run the application.

 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:55 PM, r.fender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that
  runs in an
  embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using
  AMFPHP to
  execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure
  the devices.
 
  The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use
  AIR, and
  connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all
  the root access
  permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the
  cat's meow. I can
  currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no
  security layer on
  it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom
  Chiverton tom.chiverton@ wrote:
  
   On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all
  know.
  
   SSH is really, really, complicated.
   What are you trying to achieve ?
  
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[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread r.fender
   Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using AMFPHP to 
  execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure 
  the 
  devices. 
 
 Are you saying the existing browser-based version executes commands locally 
 (i.e. the browser and web server (with AMFPHP both live on the device) ?

If I understand your question correctly, the web server (Apache) and AMFPHP are 
running on 
the device itself. The browser is just what the user has on their local machine 
(Firefox, Safari, 
IE, etc). So if I was the user, I would open a browser and navigate to the IP 
address of the 
device. The device would then just serve up the application.

To use a real device as an example let's just say the device is a DVD player 
and you have the 
ability to log into it via it's IP address on your network and do some 
low-level configurations 
on it. Make sense? I confuse myself on this sometimes :)



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread Nate Beck
Even though this is absolutely a preview / research project at the moment.
Adobe Alchemy (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/alchemy/):
Welcome the preview release of codename Alchemy. Alchemy is a research
project that allows users to compile C and C++ code that is targeted to run
on the open source ActionScript Virtual Machine (AVM2). The purpose of this
preview is to assess the level of community interest in reusing existing C
and C++ libraries in Web applications that run on Adobe(R) Flash(R) Player and
Adobe AIR(R).

Alchemy will allow you to take a c++ SSH library, such as
http://www.netsieben.com/products/sshlib/.  I haven't tested this, it's just
a concept.  But it seems like it might work.  It might be able to give you
the SSH interaction you're looking for within Flash.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM, r.fender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using AMFPHP
 to
   execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to
 configure the
   devices.
 
  Are you saying the existing browser-based version executes commands
 locally
  (i.e. the browser and web server (with AMFPHP both live on the device) ?

 If I understand your question correctly, the web server (Apache) and AMFPHP
 are running on
 the device itself. The browser is just what the user has on their local
 machine (Firefox, Safari,
 IE, etc). So if I was the user, I would open a browser and navigate to the
 IP address of the
 device. The device would then just serve up the application.

 To use a real device as an example let's just say the device is a DVD
 player and you have the
 ability to log into it via it's IP address on your network and do some
 low-level configurations
 on it. Make sense? I confuse myself on this sometimes :)

  



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-17 Thread Johannes Nel
Alchemy is sweeet! this weekend - dedicated to XSLT and some new compiler
:)

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Nate Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Even though this is absolutely a preview / research project at the
 moment.

 Adobe Alchemy (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/alchemy/):
 Welcome the preview release of codename Alchemy. Alchemy is a research
 project that allows users to compile C and C++ code that is targeted to run
 on the open source ActionScript Virtual Machine (AVM2). The purpose of this
 preview is to assess the level of community interest in reusing existing C
 and C++ libraries in Web applications that run on Adobe(R) Flash(R) Player and
 Adobe AIR(R).

 Alchemy will allow you to take a c++ SSH library, such as
 http://www.netsieben.com/products/sshlib/.  I haven't tested this, it's
 just a concept.  But it seems like it might work.  It might be able to give
 you the SSH interaction you're looking for within Flash.
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM, r.fender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using AMFPHP
 to
   execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to
 configure the
   devices.
 
  Are you saying the existing browser-based version executes commands
 locally
  (i.e. the browser and web server (with AMFPHP both live on the device) ?

 If I understand your question correctly, the web server (Apache) and
 AMFPHP are running on
 the device itself. The browser is just what the user has on their local
 machine (Firefox, Safari,
 IE, etc). So if I was the user, I would open a browser and navigate to the
 IP address of the
 device. The device would then just serve up the application.

 To use a real device as an example let's just say the device is a DVD
 player and you have the
 ability to log into it via it's IP address on your network and do some
 low-level configurations
 on it. Make sense? I confuse myself on this sometimes :)


  




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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-16 Thread Johannes Nel
or take a look at merapi with Air

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Jim Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Could you use the webkit browser in AIR to do the SSL connection?
 I don't think it needs to be visible to work.
 Just an idea, and It's probable I've not understood the reasons the project
 managers want to use AIR.


 -Original Message-
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com on behalf
 of r.fender
 Sent: Fri 14/11/2008 18:55
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

 Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that
 runs in an
 embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using
 AMFPHP to
 execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure
 the devices.

 The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use
 AIR, and
 connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all
 the root access
 permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the
 cat's meow. I can
 currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no
 security layer on
 it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom
 Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
   Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all
 know.
 
  SSH is really, really, complicated.
  What are you trying to achieve ?
 
  --
  Tom Chiverton
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[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-14 Thread r.fender
Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that runs in 
an 
embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using 
AMFPHP to 
execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure the 
devices.

The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use AIR, 
and 
connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all the 
root access 
permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the cat's 
meow. I can 
currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no 
security layer on 
it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
  Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all know.
 
 SSH is really, really, complicated.
 What are you trying to achieve ?
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-14 Thread Fotis Chatzinikos
Could you use ssh tunneling (outside of your air app). It would mean that
you would need to install an ssh client and set it up first...
It dependes if your project is for private consumption or public...

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:55 PM, r.fender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that
 runs in an
 embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using
 AMFPHP to
 execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure
 the devices.

 The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use
 AIR, and
 connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all
 the root access
 permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the
 cat's meow. I can
 currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no
 security layer on
 it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom
 Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
   Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all
 know.
 
  SSH is really, really, complicated.
  What are you trying to achieve ?
 
  --
  Tom Chiverton
  Helping to synergistically enhance functionalities
 
 
 
  
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?

2008-11-14 Thread Jim Hayes
Could you use the webkit browser in AIR to do the SSL connection?
I don't think it needs to be visible to work.
Just an idea, and It's probable I've not understood the reasons the project 
managers want to use AIR.


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of r.fender
Sent: Fri 14/11/2008 18:55
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Actionscript SSH Library..heard of any?
 
Yep, that's the complication that scares me. I have an application that runs in 
an 
embedded device. Currently, it is browser based, running through SSL, using 
AMFPHP to 
execute shell_exec() commands to run low-level Unix scripts to configure the 
devices.

The project managers now want to remove the app from the browser and use AIR, 
and 
connect via a binary socket to call and run those UNIX scripts. I have all the 
root access 
permissions I need. But using a secure connection like SSH would be the cat's 
meow. I can 
currently do everything I need through sockets with Telnet but there is no 
security layer on 
it (that I know of) and that just isn't gonna fly with the execs.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 13 Nov 2008, r.fender wrote:
  Just thought I'd throw that question out there to see what you all know.
 
 SSH is really, really, complicated.
 What are you trying to achieve ?
 
 -- 
 Tom Chiverton
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