From my POV, a more profitable approach would be a modular license
where features could be added as needed. For our current application we
don't need anything related to LC or PDF generation or even Edge
servers, however we do need real-time data messaging and the new
reliable messaging. The
Ugh, actually that sounds to me like their lawyers just mailed in the
effort. I'm no lawyer but I would not accept that license agreement as it
is one of the most anti-competitive things I've seen in a while. It
essentially means you cannot use the fds.swc to build an a.b relationship
in your
Jeff,
Back in the days (about 2 years ago) we (Midnight Coders) approached Adobe with
an idea to create a data management implementation similar to the one in LCDS
in our .NET product. What we heard back was a big storm of very loud NO-NOs -
you guys cannot do that, it will be against our
I took a look at the FB4 Beta 2 License Agreement, and here's what I found:
2.4.7 Flash (R) Builder(R) with LiveCycle(R) Data Services(LCDS) Data
Management Library. Your rights to this Software are limited. In order to (a)
utilize the file called fds.swc (the LCDS Library) to develop
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:11 PM, busitech wrote:
João, would you (and others) mind heading over to Anil Channappa's blog post
about this to voice your concern? There's a long string of comments which
are calling for lower pricing so LCDS can be successful. We are very
passionate about
Successful and available for everyone are two very different thingsI
am more concerned with Adobe making enough money of LCDS Hi Jochem, I
agree 100%, it should not be given away. A lower price does make it
available to a larger market. For example, if a copy of LCDS were: -
$1,000 for every
Good to hear from you, Jeff! We are saddened too. We are quite
passionate about LCDS, and always have been. We built somewhere in the
neighborhood of 14 test cases for LCDS 3.0 during the most recent
alpha/beta, so just in the last 6 months our investment has remained
quite significant even
João, would you (and others) mind heading over to Anil Channappa's
blog post http://anilchannappa.org/2009/11/20/lcds-3-0-released/
about this to voice your concern? There's a long string of comments
which are calling for lower pricing so LCDS can be successful. We are
very passionate about
Hi Tom, in the same vein, Adobe downgraded ColdFusion 9 to include BlazeDS
instead of LCDS.
Dunno about price, but have you looked at ColdFusion? Comes with LCDS and a
bunch of other stuff.
Tom, even with CF8 bundle with LCDS, you have to pay for a Departmental /
enterprise license if your CFLCDS instance uses more than 1 CPU. You could
always use them in separated instances, cf with all available resources and
only LCDS restricted to 1 CPU.
João Fernandes
--- In
That statement about fds.swc certainly was true before, but the DataService
apis are used to power the rpc based data tools in the new Flex Builder. In
the beta at least, it was the exact same file shipped in LCDS as in FB, so
presumably use of that file would be covered by the FB4 license.
Wouldn't BlazeDS be the upgrade path for the 'no charge' versions?
I'm on unclear on the exact differences, but I thought LCDS had more advanced
push / real time capabilities. Apps that truly need that are rare in my
experience.
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No Jeff, BlazeDS is the 'downgrade' path ... LCDS provides data
management which is not available on BlazeDS.
Indeed people using Free or Departmental will end up with a locked
product. I wish that LCDS would become more affordable somehow and
become more mainstream.
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João Fernandes
Adobe
check this out
http://www.insideria.com/2010/01/getting-real-with-graniteds.html
2010/1/21 João Fernandes joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com
No Jeff, BlazeDS is the 'downgrade' path ... LCDS provides data
management which is not available on BlazeDS.
Indeed people using Free or
It might be a good opportunity to loosely couple things and apply a more
Service Oriented Architecture approach. Using SOA principles, changing out the
business logic layer ie BlazeDS or LiveCycle wouldn't require a massive rewrite
of the data or client layer. Just in how the data and
It might be a good opportunity to loosely couple things and apply a more
Service Oriented Architecture approach. Using SOA principles, changing out the
business logic layer ie BlazeDS or LiveCycle wouldn't require a massive rewrite
of the data or client layer. Just in how the data and
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