[flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread arieljake
Turn off Build Automatically.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "dbronk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
> classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into smaller
> classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
> gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
> experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet.  Also with
> that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
> workspace build just because I make a small change to a class.  I've
> even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
> build.  To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
> I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now.  My single
> greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90 seconds
> everytime I save a file.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Fore"  wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi gyus
> > > i have around 16000 line of code
> > > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Howard Fore, howard.fore@
> > "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
Atwood
> >
>




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Varun Shetty
i usually switch off autobuild on save... and only build when i am ready..
also breaking up into swc files seem to have helped.

Flex is definitely slow for me on a 4 GB RAM + 4 Core
(Quadro/Xeon)Processor.. i wish there was some tweaks that would make flex
use all the processors.

regards,
Varun

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Maybe someone from Adobe could shed light on this?
>
> On 19/08/2008, at 11:00 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>
>
> I'd assume the DTD gets cached in Eclipse though.  It does in other Eclipse
> tools at least.
>
>
> DK
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Ah. That would make sense.
>>
>> On 19/08/2008, at 10:13 AM, Howard Fore wrote:
>>
>>
>> Maybe it's using the URL in the xmlns attribute to get a DTD?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm on a
>>> lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing some http
>>> connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network licence checking
>>> perhaps?).
>>> __,_._,__
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Knudsen
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Guy Morton

Maybe someone from Adobe could shed light on this?

On 19/08/2008, at 11:00 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:



I'd assume the DTD gets cached in Eclipse though.  It does in other  
Eclipse tools at least.



DK

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Ah. That would make sense.


On 19/08/2008, at 10:13 AM, Howard Fore wrote:



Maybe it's using the URL in the xmlns attribute to get a DTD?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:
In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm  
on a lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing  
some http connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network  
licence checking perhaps?).

__,_._,__


--
Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff  
Atwood







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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Douglas Knudsen
I'd assume the DTD gets cached in Eclipse though.  It does in other Eclipse
tools at least.


DK

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Ah. That would make sense.
>
> On 19/08/2008, at 10:13 AM, Howard Fore wrote:
>
>
> Maybe it's using the URL in the xmlns attribute to get a DTD?
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm on a
>> lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing some http
>> connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network licence checking
>> perhaps?).
>> __,_._,__
>>
>
>
> --
> Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
>
>
>  




-- 
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http://www.cubicleman.com
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread dbronk
We currently use maven which does cut it down to a lightning fast
40-45 seconds.  We've also used ant with not much better results. 
Java compiler with far more classes and code is generally around 8-10
seconds.  Also, by running via ant, don't you lose some of the nice
IDE features like flagging the files/lines that are bad, giving a list
of compile errors in the IDE which then allow you simple double click
them and take you right there?  Not to mention not having to run an
ant script every time I change a file vs simply saving and getting
instant (well instant once Flex 4 comes) feedback on syntax.

Don't get me wrong...  We only use IDE compiles during development. 
All of are builds are done via maven scripts as well as continuous
integration builds.  Not "from developer box to prod" here.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "JWOpitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into gear and come out
> with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my experience, the absolute
> slowest compiler on the planet."
> 
> If you haven't already, learn to use the command-line compiler and an
> ANT script then.  I don't think it is nearly as slow as the Flex
> Builder compiler.  3-7 seconds to compile via ANT is pretty fast to me.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "dbronk"  wrote:
> >
> > Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
> > classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into smaller
> > classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
> > gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
> > experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet.  Also with
> > that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
> > workspace build just because I make a small change to a class.  I've
> > even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
> > build.  To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
> > I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now.  My single
> > greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90 seconds
> > everytime I save a file.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Fore"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi gyus
> > > > i have around 16000 line of code
> > > > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Howard Fore, howard.fore@
> > > "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
> Atwood
> > >
> >
>




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Guy Morton

Ah. That would make sense.

On 19/08/2008, at 10:13 AM, Howard Fore wrote:



Maybe it's using the URL in the xmlns attribute to get a DTD?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:
In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm  
on a lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing  
some http connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network  
licence checking perhaps?).

__,_._,__


--
Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff  
Atwood







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Howard Fore
Maybe it's using the URL in the xmlns attribute to get a DTD?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm on a
> lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing some http
> connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network licence checking
> perhaps?).
> __,_._,__
>


-- 
Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Guy Morton
In my experience, Flex sometimes takes forever to compile when I'm on  
a lousy network. I've always wondered if it was due to it doing some  
http connections or DNS lookups, for reasons unknown (network licence  
checking perhaps?).



On 19/08/2008, at 1:23 AM, JWOpitz wrote:


"I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into gear and come out
with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my experience, the absolute
slowest compiler on the planet."

If you haven't already, learn to use the command-line compiler and an
ANT script then. I don't think it is nearly as slow as the Flex
Builder compiler. 3-7 seconds to compile via ANT is pretty fast to me.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "dbronk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
> classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into  
smaller
> classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it  
into

> gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
> experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet. Also with
> that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
> workspace build just because I make a small change to a class. I've
> even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
> build. To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
> I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now. My single
> greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90  
seconds

> everytime I save a file.
>
>
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Fore"   
wrote:

> >
> > Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi gyus
> > > i have around 16000 line of code
> > > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard Fore, howard.fore@
> > "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
Atwood
> >
>







[flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread JWOpitz
"I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into gear and come out
with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my experience, the absolute
slowest compiler on the planet."

If you haven't already, learn to use the command-line compiler and an
ANT script then.  I don't think it is nearly as slow as the Flex
Builder compiler.  3-7 seconds to compile via ANT is pretty fast to me.



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "dbronk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
> classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into smaller
> classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
> gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
> experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet.  Also with
> that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
> workspace build just because I make a small change to a class.  I've
> even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
> build.  To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
> I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now.  My single
> greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90 seconds
> everytime I save a file.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Fore"  wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi gyus
> > > i have around 16000 line of code
> > > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Howard Fore, howard.fore@
> > "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
Atwood
> >
>




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread Johannes Nel
>>I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet.
you never used flash then. mx2004 anyone...

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, dbronk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
> classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into smaller
> classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
> gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
> experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet. Also with
> that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
> workspace build just because I make a small change to a class. I've
> even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
> build. To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
> I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now. My single
> greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90 seconds
> everytime I save a file.
>
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com , "Howard
> Fore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi gyus
> > > i have around 16000 line of code
> > > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
> >
>
>  
>



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[flexcoders] Re: Flex is time consuming

2008-08-18 Thread dbronk
Although I agree that 16000 lines of code broken between only 7
classes certainly seems like a further break down of code into smaller
classes is necessary, I also believe that Adobe needs to kick it into
gear and come out with a patch ASAP that addresses the, from my
experience, the absolute slowest compiler on the planet.  Also with
that, they need to get a patch out that doesn't go into a full
workspace build just because I make a small change to a class.  I've
even simply added a space and saved which caused a full workspace
build.  To me, placing this as a top priority for Flex 4 is great and
I thank them for that, but that doesn't help me now.  My single
greatest productivity killer right now is having to wait 60-90 seconds
everytime I save a file.



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Fore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like you need to break it down further...
> 
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, litesh_b321 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi gyus
> > i have around 16000 line of code
> > which is already broke up in two mxml file and five class file
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
>