Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
but how will we deal with mouse events for multiple mice (fingers)? On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:34 AM, Shannon Hicks wrote: It runs OS X, it runs Safari It even runs widgets... surely it is capable of running Flash Player 9. If Apple intends on letting 3rd party developers in on the phone, then I bet it'll be included. If Apple/Cingular plan on selling more optional applications for the phone, perhaps they won't. On a similar but off-topic note... what of PDF's on the iPhone? Shan
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
The same way Safari does. (but are you sure there are multiple simutaneous mouse events in the iPhone?) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Tuminello Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:01 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ? but how will we deal with mouse events for multiple mice (fingers)? On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:34 AM, Shannon Hicks wrote: It runs OS X, it runs Safari It even runs widgets... surely it is capable of running Flash Player 9. If Apple intends on letting 3rd party developers in on the phone, then I bet it'll be included. If Apple/Cingular plan on selling more option! al applications for the phone, perhaps they won't. On a similar but off-topic note... what of PDF's on the iPhone? Shan
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
Pretty sure. Watch the 'image zoom' movie - putting two fingers on the screen and moving them apart zooms the image... Ian On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same way Safari does. (but are you sure there are multiple simutaneous mouse events in the iPhone?) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
Cool. Either way, I bet the mouse event for the Flash player would be the same one that comes from Safari - unless they are pushing a special version of Safari for the iPhone which has two mouse events. Even if there were two, I'm sure there's a primary and secondary, and they wouldn't change the API for the primary because they know it would break too many web apps. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:26 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ? Pretty sure. Watch the 'image zoom' movie - putting two fingers on the screen and moving them apart zooms the image... Ian On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same way Safari does. (but are you sure there are multiple simutaneous mouse events in the iPhone?) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 05:28, John Kirby wrote: After seeing the Steve Jobs MacWorld demo (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event) of the new iPhone which runs a Mac OS X (light)... I can't help but think that flex apps can't be far behind? I can't wait to start! Running the Flash player is a lot more work than running just JavaScript (that is what is the Dashboard widgits are written in, no ?). AFAIK there are no specs for the hardware yet in terms of CPU or RAM, so you can't say for sure. I agree it would be a shame if it couldn't. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to revolutionarily bully enterprise design-patterns This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
All that is, as far as Safari goes, is the ability to zoom in and out. Do you have dual mouse events when someone uses User Accessibility to zoom in on XP or OS X? :) Through Safari, the flash movie wouldn't see anything special. Now, if they opened up widgets to use FP9, then I'm sure there's going to be some new mouse events. Shan Ian Thomas wrote: Pretty sure. Watch the 'image zoom' movie - putting two fingers on the screen and moving them apart zooms the image... Ian On 1/10/07, *Merrill, Jason * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same way Safari does. (but are you sure there are multiple simutaneous mouse events in the iPhone?) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
I think they have no choice but to introduce something new here. there is currently no way to track the position of 2 or more pointers in relation to each other (at least not that I am aware of). Michael On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Cool. Either way, I bet the mouse event for the Flash player would be the same one that comes from Safari - unless they are pushing a special version of Safari for the iPhone which has two mouse events. Even if there were two, I'm sure there's a primary and secondary, and they wouldn't change the API for the primary because they know it would break too many web apps. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
If y'all haven't seen this you should. The iPhone is not the first interface to show this kind of multiple gesture behavior... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhMVNdplJc -Andy On 1/10/07, Michael Tuminello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they have no choice but to introduce something new here. there is currently no way to track the position of 2 or more pointers in relation to each other (at least not that I am aware of). Michael On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Cool. Either way, I bet the mouse event for the Flash player would be the same one that comes from Safari - unless they are pushing a special version of Safari for the iPhone which has two mouse events. Even if there were two, I'm sure there's a primary and secondary, and they wouldn't change the API for the primary because they know it would break too many web apps. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I saw a bunch of tiling going on when Jobs was zooming in and out. I also noticed the compression changes when the zoom-in finished from low quality to high. All that makes me wonder if there isn't some faking-it going on for the zoom feature. Almost like a mapping program for a web-page, where the iPhone Safari browser renders the web-page into a buffer off screen and then clones it to a bitmap and uses that to display and scale up/down on the phone. IF that is the case that will cause huge problems with motion graphics on a web-page displayed in the iPhone (ie, they will not animate). I tried to look for animations on his demo's of NYT and Amazon but I wasn't able to spot any, Maybe someone else did? Thoughts / other observations? -Andy On 1/10/07, Shannon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that is, as far as Safari goes, is the ability to zoom in and out. Do you have dual mouse events when someone uses User Accessibility to zoom in on XP or OS X? :) Through Safari, the flash movie wouldn't see anything special. Now, if they opened up widgets to use FP9, then I'm sure there's going to be some new mouse events. Shan Ian Thomas wrote: Pretty sure. Watch the 'image zoom' movie - putting two fingers on the screen and moving them apart zooms the image... Ian On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same way Safari does. (but are you sure there are multiple simutaneous mouse events in the iPhone?) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
John Kirby wrote: After seeing the Steve Jobs MacWorld demo (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event) of the new iPhone which runs a Mac OS X (light)... I can't help but think that flex apps can't be far behind? I can't wait to start! Anyone at Adobe care to comment on a flash/flex mobile version for the iPhone. No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until the keynote, myself. I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are really up to Apple. I put up an early i dont know up on the weblog yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm Summary: No info yet, but ASAP. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
It runs OS X, it runs Safari It even runs widgets... surely it is capable of running Flash Player 9. If Apple intends on letting 3rd party developers in on the phone, then I bet it'll be included. If Apple/Cingular plan on selling more optional applications for the phone, perhaps they won't. On a similar but off-topic note... what of PDF's on the iPhone? Shan John Kirby wrote: After seeing the Steve Jobs MacWorld demo (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event) of the new iPhone which runs a Mac OS X (light)... I can't help but think that flex apps can't be far behind? I can't wait to start! Anyone at Adobe care to comment on a flash/flex mobile version for the iPhone. This is one very cool device/platform! .j -- /Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right./ - Henry Ford
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/Flash on The iPhone ?
I guess the next greatest question is will we be able to deploy apollo apps on the iphone? That would rock regards, Bjorn On 10/01/2007, at 5:34 PM, Shannon Hicks wrote: It runs OS X, it runs Safari It even runs widgets... surely it is capable of running Flash Player 9. If Apple intends on letting 3rd party developers in on the phone, then I bet it'll be included. If Apple/Cingular plan on selling more optional applications for the phone, perhaps they won't. On a similar but off-topic note... what of PDF's on the iPhone? Shan John Kirby wrote: After seeing the Steve Jobs MacWorld demo (http:// events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event) of the new iPhone which runs a Mac OS X (light)... I can't help but think that flex apps can't be far behind? I can't wait to start! Anyone at Adobe care to comment on a flash/flex mobile version for the iPhone. This is one very cool device/platform! .j -- Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right. - Henry Ford
