Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 14 Aug 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 You can assume that we have this as an issue on our private contract-based
 forums with them.  I know I've talked to them about it. 

Good to hear Matt.
Feel free to make a song and dance about it when it's all sorted out.

 the replies to work in most email clients by getting rid of the stupid
 [xxx] suffix on each.

What was with that anyway ? I can't think of a single reason to do it.

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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-15 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Matt Chotin wrote:
 You can assume that we have this as an issue on our private contract-based
 forums with them.

I could assume that, but why should I? I have previously assumed that
issues I reported to Adobe were escalated to Jive, based on feedback
from Adobe on my reports. Until I checked with Jive and they said they
never got it: http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/message/234157#234157

So instead of assuming why not just tell us what the issue number on
your private forum is? Then I'll get the public case tagged with that
one too.


 WE at least got the
 replies to work in most email clients by getting rid of the stupid [xxx]
 suffix on each.

If you consider the current situation to work I guess I just have
higher standards.


If everybody in this thread had sent his messages by email to the
Adobe forums email 'feature' instead of Yahoo, 5 messages would be
missing part or all of their content. If you had sent your message to
the forums we would not be reading it the way you sent it, because the
Jive software would have converted your [xxx] to something else.

Jochem


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RE: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Gregor Kiddie
It kind of works...

 

It only mangles some code samples, I've never had problems with the
subject lines (though I know others have), and I get threading via
outlook some of the time (though outlook has the same problem with this
mailing list).

 

It's usable enough for me to prefer it over actually visiting the
forums.

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Chiverton
Sent: 13 August 2009 16:39
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

 

  

On Thursday 13 Aug 2009, Gregor Kiddie wrote:
 It does have to be said, I use the Mailing list functionality of the
 Adobe forums rather than visiting the forum directly...

Last time I checked, this was utterly broken. With mangled bodies,
mangled 
subject lines and the lack of correct headers to allow threading.





Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Purnima S
can anyone help me in problem.
when iam running my flex application which is connected to apache tomcat
server tomcat stops after 3-4 records are inserted or deleted or any
modification is done. I am connecting to tomcat thru struts application.
Please any one help me.

S.Purnima


Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:
 On Thursday 13 Aug 2009, Gregor Kiddie wrote:
 It does have to be said, I use the Mailing list functionality of the
 Adobe forums rather than visiting the forum directly...

 Last time I checked, this was utterly broken. With mangled bodies

The fix is due on August 24th:
http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/46593
Could use some pushing at Adobe to convince them to update their
outdated 2.5.7 to 2.5.16.

 mangled subject lines

Fixed.

 the lack of correct headers to allow threading.

Will be fixed when hell freezes over:
http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/50602

Jochem


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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 14 Aug 2009, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
  the lack of correct headers to allow threading.
 Will be fixed when hell freezes over:
 http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/50602

The hell ... !?!

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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Matt Chotin
You can assume that we have this as an issue on our private contract-based 
forums with them.  I know I've talked to them about it.  WE at least got the 
replies to work in most email clients by getting rid of the stupid [xxx] suffix 
on each.


On 8/14/09 8:43 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:





 On Friday 14 Aug 2009, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
  the lack of correct headers to allow threading.
 Will be fixed when hell freezes over:
 http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/50602

The hell ... !?!


RE: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Gregor Kiddie
I use both, mainly answering questions rather than asking them.

It's obvious that the majority of the new members of the community have
migrated to the forums rather than this list, which generates a lot of
noise, which lowers its usefulness to anyone who surfs for useful
posts.

The mailing list still has the best posters on it (though we appear to
have lost Alex to the forums :-(), has less noise and generally has more
informed questions and answers.

 

Definitely prefer Flexcoders...

Gk.

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Wesley Acheson
Sent: 12 August 2009 16:09
To: flexcoders
Subject: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

 

  

I saw a mail a while ago about new Adobe forums. Those of you who use
both which do you perfer flexcoders or the Adobe forums?  I've an
impression that the community is pretty strong here.  ]

Please only answer If you use both. Its not a real opinion to get the
opinion of someone who only uses the group as they can't compare. 

Regards,
Wes





Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Andriy Panas
Hi all,

   Adobe Forums are definitely the future for the main communication
medium for Adobe Flex experts.

   Forums in general are way superior to mailing lists to exchange the
knowledge on the Internet.

   Things that jump into my mind first - Adobe Forums have better text
and code formatting support, pretty good search functionality, Adobe
forums are hosted and supported by vendor technology (Adobe), thus you
are more likely to receive the response from Adobe's engineers over
there. Last, but not the least - most active member of Adobe Forums
are promoted with points score, pretty good stuff for your individual
ego.

  Of course, Adobe Forums still have a room to improve, because
StackOverFlow web-site is even better :P
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/flex

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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 13 Aug 2009, Andriy Panas wrote:
Adobe Forums are definitely the future for the main communication
 medium for Adobe Flex experts.

I have to disagree.

Things that jump into my mind first - Adobe Forums have better text
 and code formatting support, 

Not needed.

 pretty good search functionality, 

Google searches both, so any built-in system is pointless.

 Adobe  
 forums are hosted and supported by vendor technology (Adobe), thus you
 are more likely to receive the response from Adobe's engineers over
 there. 

You know the forum software isn't Adobes, right ? And do you look at who posts 
here with @adobe address ?

 Last, but not the least - most active member of Adobe Forums 
 are promoted with points score,

So what ? 

 pretty good stuff for your individual
 ego.

If you are in it for your ego, I have bad news for you :-)

   Of course, Adobe Forums still have a room to improve,

Because they suck ?
There's no point me reposting the complaints I've posted on it since it's 
relaunch, I'm sure you'll be able to locate them easily with the forums 
search engine...

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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Ian Thomas
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Andriy Panasa.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forums in general are way superior to mailing lists to exchange the
 knowledge on the Internet.

My main issue with that is:
  Mailing lists are push. Forums are pull.

I'm on 6 or 7 different mailing lists. There's no way I'd get round to
visiting 6 or 7 different forums to see what's updated several times a
day; therefore I wouldn't ever read anything or answer anyone.

Ian


RE: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Gregor Kiddie
It does have to be said, I use the Mailing list functionality of the
Adobe forums rather than visiting the forum directly...

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: 13 August 2009 14:02
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

 

  

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Andriy Panasa.pa...@gmail.com
mailto:a.panas%40gmail.com  wrote:

 Forums in general are way superior to mailing lists to exchange the
 knowledge on the Internet.

My main issue with that is:
Mailing lists are push. Forums are pull.

I'm on 6 or 7 different mailing lists. There's no way I'd get round to
visiting 6 or 7 different forums to see what's updated several times a
day; therefore I wouldn't ever read anything or answer anyone.

Ian





Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Paul Andrews
Ian Thomas wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Andriy Panasa.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 Forums in general are way superior to mailing lists to exchange the
 knowledge on the Internet.
 

 My main issue with that is:
   Mailing lists are push. Forums are pull.

 I'm on 6 or 7 different mailing lists. There's no way I'd get round to
 visiting 6 or 7 different forums to see what's updated several times a
 day; therefore I wouldn't ever read anything or answer anyone.

 Ian

   
+1


Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 13 Aug 2009, Gregor Kiddie wrote:
 It does have to be said, I use the Mailing list functionality of the
 Adobe forums rather than visiting the forum directly...

Last time I checked, this was utterly broken. With mangled bodies, mangled 
subject lines and the lack of correct headers to allow threading.

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Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-13 Thread Wesley Acheson
I don't think I'm going to bother joining the forums then.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
 wrote:



 On Thursday 13 Aug 2009, Gregor Kiddie wrote:
  It does have to be said, I use the Mailing list functionality of the
  Adobe forums rather than visiting the forum directly...

 Last time I checked, this was utterly broken. With mangled bodies, mangled
 subject lines and the lack of correct headers to allow threading.

 --
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 clusters
 as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08

 

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