Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-17 Thread Simon HB9DRV
So you're suggesting we cull the old timers? I gave a talk recently about SDR with live demonstrations - they were converted. In my talks I always suggest that every club should have a few SoftRocks to lend to potential SWL's. For me 'real radio' is homebrew, but I do admire the fine contest

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-17 Thread Michael Tondee
You know, I actually thought about cutting and pasting it into a text file at one time when it was going on but then I decided it wasn't worth it to do that anymore than it was worth it for me to keep arguing with the ignorant misinformed people. I just let it go and then I came over here

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread racer
just me. N0FJP -- From: Michael Tondee mat...@netcommander.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 09:12 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR! I was over in the chat that goes along with WA5KUB's

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread k4elo
I was struck by two things at the show yesterday. 1. The average age of the attendees. Most looked like they were around retirement age. - not so good for ham radio's future. Some attitudes never change. 2. How busy the Flex booth was. - very good for Flex. Nice to meet you Tim. 73 Wayne

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Stan
Maybe the young guys are home working DX on their Flex radios!!! :-) Stan (age 70) -- From: k4...@fastmail.fm Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:18 AM To: Flex flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Robert Redmon
How did we come to the point in this country...maybe the world, where it is always just us or them and uninformed opinion carries more weight than lived experience or other forms of empirical evidence? I am reading irrational posturing from all sides on this issue. We are in this hobby because

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Lee Mushel
Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Stan wa2...@taconic.net To: k4...@fastmail.fm; Flex flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR! Maybe the young guys are home working DX on their Flex radios

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Ross Stenberg
There were many other sad comments on the reflector as well. I suppose degreading others makes one feel better about themselves. Also apparent there are many very lonely men out there (poor Lisa). 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Bob McGwier
remains as to where the truth lies! 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Stan wa2...@taconic.net To: k4...@fastmail.fm; Flex flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR! Maybe the young guys

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:25 PM, racer racer5...@q.com wrote: I do not have a Flex YET. I try to soak up any and all information I can before hand and I have ran into some of the same types as you have. There will always be a group that think unless it has tubes it's not a radio. If it's not

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Michael Tondee
Just one further piece of commentary on this since it was my post below that started the discussion. I have no idea how old the critics of SDR that I ran into yesterday were. Who knows? I don't want to imply that this is some sort of old timers vs. new blood thing. At what point does one

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Michael Tondee mat...@netcommander.comwrote: Just one further piece of commentary on this since it was my post below that started the discussion. I have no idea how old the critics of SDR that I ran into yesterday were. Who knows? I don't want to imply that

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Michael Walker
This is a little off topic for this forum, however, the average age of you, the ham operator, is climbing. It needs to be moving the other way. You can make this happen by introducing youth to the hobby and maybe even donating your old rig that is collecting dust to those new operators to

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread Martin Ewing
Each time I check, my average age (over time) is increasing by 1/2 year every year. Average over number (N=1) is 1 year per year. Some folks say that age leads to wisdom. Others say, OFdom. Hams have been complaining about OF's taking over since ~1915. You can read about it in the old QSTs.

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-16 Thread TOM BLACKWELL (nt)
Does anyone have a copy of all or part of the exchange that appeared on the WA5KUB chat screen? (Or is it even possible to copy this to a file, to save it?) I checked in there to see if I could win a prize - - even though I never win anything. Michael Tondee wrote: I was over in the chat

[Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Michael Tondee
I was over in the chat that goes along with WA5KUB's helmet cam at Dayton today and could not believe some of the attitudes I encountered upon mentioning I had recently purchased a Flex 5000A. I was told I didn't have a real ham radio. That using my Flex was no better than being on CQ100 or a

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Tom Brown N4TAB
Golly. Next thing you'll hear is a movement to abolish spark Ya just never know 73, Tom N4TAB Wake Forest, NC ~~ On 5/15/2010 10:12 PM, Michael Tondee wrote: I was over in the chat that goes along with WA5KUB's helmet cam at Dayton today and could not

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Drax Felton
There's a legion of hams mired in the past. The world for them ended in 1978. (When the Wikipedia says Collins went solid state hehe) And judging from some of the vendors I met in the Dayton flea market .. there are some true whackers among us. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Michael Tondee

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Michael Tondee mat...@netcommander.comwrote: I was over in the chat that goes along with WA5KUB's helmet cam at Dayton today and could not believe some of the attitudes I encountered upon mentioning I had recently purchased a Flex 5000A. I was told I didn't

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Steven L Hess
I run in the Panafall mode. I now find a radio without this is not pleasant to use. It's not informative enough and I run at 48k. I have to resist the urge to tell people how badly they are splattering and buckshotting. On 05/15/2010 07:46 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: The interesting thing is,

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Ron Kolarik
Tondee mat...@netcommander.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:12 PM Subject: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR! I was over in the chat that goes along with WA5KUB's helmet cam at Dayton today and could not believe some of the attitudes I

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Ron Kolarik rkola...@neb.rr.com wrote: What pray tell is real ham radio?? CW only Emcomm Public service bicycle chasers Shack on a belt Extra heavy..really hate that one and I am No lids, no kids, no space cadets..if you're old enough to remember

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Drax Felton
I know what I'm about to type is blasphemy to some and I might end up as popular as Kurt Westergaard in Tehran.. but I think hooking a CW key to a Flex Radio is like running wooden spoke wheels on a Ferrari. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.comwrote: That is

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Michael Tondee
Hi HiI'm sure you guys know I meant kill ham radio and not koll it! I definitely take it with a grain of salt and consider the source. I mean some of them are so misinformed it's not even funny. They really have no inkling of what SDR really is nor what it can do for you. I heard the new

Re: [Flexradio] Man I can't believe some attitudes towards SDR!

2010-05-15 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Drax Felton draxfel...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to type is blasphemy to some and I might end up as popular as Kurt Westergaard in Tehran.. but I think hooking a CW key to a Flex Radio is like running wooden spoke wheels on a Ferrari. Hey, I