Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem - Solved!

2007-01-24 Thread Brian Kassel
Folks: I have finally been able to completely eliminate the short term frequency drift of 20 -30 Hz. when returning to RX after transmitting for just a few seconds. In the last few weeks I have operated several digital contests, and am happy to report that there is no measurable drift as

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-10 Thread Ken N9VV
I hooked up MixW <--> VAC <--> vCOM <--> FA-66 and everything in PSK31, Olivia, and MFSK16 work without any shift in frequency. I will continue to test. de ken Brian Kassel wrote: > Hello Peter: > > I have never heard or worked with this device, so your explanation > really helped me understa

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-07 Thread Brian Kassel
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Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
6OMH Willi > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Brian Kassel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem > > > >I am not sure where the p

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-07 Thread Brian Kassel
SM6OMH Willi > > - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Brian Kassel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem > > >> I am not sure w

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-07 Thread petervn
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Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-07 Thread Willi Reppel
rian Kassel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem >I am not sure where the power for the heater on the 200MHz oscilator come >from > > power to the 200MHz oscilator: > PIOboard [AVD

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-06 Thread Brian Kassel
Hello Ahti : I didn't realize that the thermister was powered directly from the raw DC input. I am using a commercial power supply, an SEC 1223 switcher. The drift is the same regardless of TX power levels, even down at the 5 Watt level. Wouldn't the drift be more severe at the highe

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-06 Thread Ahti Aintila
Brian, This is just my guess: The thermistor heating the oscillator takes its power directly from the 13.8 V source. Switching from RX to TX will change the total current and possibly causes a minor voltage change. That would disturb shortly the temperature equilibrium of the thermistor/oscillato

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-06 Thread petervn
07 22:16 Aan: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem Folks: Can someone tell me where the regulated voltage for the 200 MHz. oscillator comes from? It isn't clear to me in the schematic. I am investigating a 22 HZ oscillator frequency cha

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-06 Thread Brian Kassel
Folks: Can someone tell me where the regulated voltage for the 200 MHz. oscillator comes from? It isn't clear to me in the schematic. I am investigating a 22 HZ oscillator frequency change from TX to RX that occurs in the first 10 seconds, then stabilizes to less than 1 Hz change. . Temp

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-02 Thread John Basilotto
DZ Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim Lux Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem Hi Maarten: Thanks for the information. More and more it is looking like a hardware problem, but hopefully it will be easy to solve. Tomorrow I will attempt to measure the 20

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-02 Thread Brian Kassel
Hi Maarten: Thanks for the information. More and more it is looking like a hardware problem, but hopefully it will be easy to solve. Tomorrow I will attempt to measure the 200 MHz. oscillator frequency. Got to be getting pretty close to the culprit that is causing the short term drift. B

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-02 Thread Maarten N1DZ
The same drift you described I encountered once in my 2m transverter. I had stabilized the transverter with a thermistor soldered to the crystal. Everytime I transmitted the voltage would sag a little causing a temparature change that caused the oscilator to drift a little. It would only occur in

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-01 Thread Jerry
Brian Just remembered something. Sound card out and in ports may not be on the same frequency! Had this problem years ago when doing SSTV. MMTTY has in the "MISC" Tab the ability to correct for "TX Offset" in HZ. If one operates using AFSK, and monitoring your xmit signal, the A

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-01 Thread Brian Kassel
Hi Jim: This is an excellent idea. I actually thought of it, but without a schematic, I was a little hesitant to open the case and probe around. I'll open up the cabinet and try it tomorrow. I'll let the reflector know what I find too, Someday, someone else just may experience these sym

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-01 Thread Jim Lux
At 08:06 PM 12/31/2006, Brian Kassel wrote: Have you tried using your frequency counter to count the 200 MHz reference oscillator. A small loop of wire near the DDS should pick it up. As I recall, there's some jumper pins that carry the 200 MHz, so you could take a small piece of (insulated) w

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2007-01-01 Thread José Dumoulin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Kassel >> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:35 AM >> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem >> >> Folks: >> >&g

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
;From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Kassel >Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:35 AM >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem > >Folks: > > I have been told that with t

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Larry Loen
Brian Kassel wrote: > Hi Larry: > > Thanks for your message and suggestions. I changed out the PS with > another SEC 22 A version, and the symptoms persist. Please keep in > mind that the symptoms also persist when running only 5W. I do > appreciate the input as to the fact that a heavie

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
Hi Larry: Thanks for your message and suggestions. I changed out the PS with another SEC 22 A version, and the symptoms persist. Please keep in mind that the symptoms also persist when running only 5W. I do appreciate the input as to the fact that a heavier PS is required than the typic

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Larry Loen
Brian Kassel wrote: >Hi Jim: > >Thanks for the note. Let's see if I can describe to you what I >see. After even a short transmission of, say, 5 seconds, running >something like 5W, the frequency of the received PSK-31 signal slowly >moves to the left on the waterfall display of my MixW pr

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
> > > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Jim Lux > Verzonden: zo 31-12-2006 22:18 > Aan: Brian Kassel; Ross Stenberg > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] More

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
Hi Jim: Thanks for the note. Let's see if I can describe to you what I see. After even a short transmission of, say, 5 seconds, running something like 5W, the frequency of the received PSK-31 signal slowly moves to the left on the waterfall display of my MixW program traveling about the

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread John Basilotto
bject: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem Folks: I have been told that with the newer SDR's (mine is only a few weeks old), no turn on drift should be experienced with the thermistor modification. However I see drift of probably 100 HZ or so immediately after turn on, for about

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread petervn
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Jim Lux Verzonden: zo 31-12-2006 22:18 Aan: Brian Kassel; Ross Stenberg CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem At 12:22 PM 12/31/2006, Brian Kassel wrote: >Hi Ross: > > As I had m

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Jim Lux
At 12:22 PM 12/31/2006, Brian Kassel wrote: >Hi Ross: > > As I had mentioned in 2 messages to Tim: > > "I also got a reply from Ken, N9VV. He basically agrees with you, and >I gladly accept the turn on drift, no problem. I stand informed and >educated by you both, thanks! > >What does bo

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
>>www.itsco.com >> >>"Si fractum non sit, id reficere" >>-Unknown Roman consultant >> >>-----Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Kassel >>Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
"Si fractum non sit, id reficere" >-Unknown Roman consultant > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Kassel >Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:35 PM >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subjec

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Ross Stenberg
here could be a problem. 73 Ross K9COX - Original Message - From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Kassel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequen

Re: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Tim Ellison
2006 1:35 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem Folks: I have been told that with the newer SDR's (mine is only a few weeks old), no turn on drift should be experienced with the thermistor modification. However I see drift of p

[Flexradio] More Strange Frequency Drift Problem

2006-12-31 Thread Brian Kassel
Folks: I have been told that with the newer SDR's (mine is only a few weeks old), no turn on drift should be experienced with the thermistor modification. However I see drift of probably 100 HZ or so immediately after turn on, for about 10 minutes or so. I have the feeling that the thermist