Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Robert McGwier
I love Willi's practical approach to things. I mean it is not as if we are attempting to preserve the beauty of this black box! I did exactly this on a radio I was having trouble with doing a demo. I do suspect that there are some who would feel uncomfortable removing the stack to drill

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread K6JEK
I started this thread about poor sideband suppression. Just so you all know, this is not a case of poor cable connections, an avenue I diligently explored. I do believe the stereo mini jacks leave something to be desired but they are not the source of my opposite sideband grunk Jon, K6EK

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Barry VE4MA
Barry VE4MA - Original Message - From: K6JEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flexradio flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression I started this thread about poor sideband suppression. Just so you all know

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Jeff Anderson
If there's a Radio Shack nearby, they also sell ground-loop isolators: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062214 - Jeff, K6jca --- A.R.S. - W5AMI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Do you have any stereo 1:1 audio isolation xfmrs laying around? If so, try inserting one

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
Jon, Do you have any stereo 1:1 audio isolation xfmrs laying around? If so, try inserting one between your presonus connections and the line-in jack of the SDR-1000. Make sure whatever xfmr you use, it has a good flat audio curve. I use a Scosche car audio device:

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Mel Whitten
PROTECTED]; K6JEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Flexradio flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression The EBTech Hum Eliminator is good too. It will accept balanced or unbalanced connections and the frequency response id 20

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Tim Ellison
, September 27, 2006 1:39 PM To: FlexRadio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Here is a little blurb on these isolators if you prefer to build your own. They are simple, but some care should be taken when choosing the transformer(s): http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-27 Thread Cecilio Bayona
] On Behalf Of Mel Whitten Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:39 PM To: FlexRadio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Here is a little blurb on these isolators if you prefer to build your own. They are simple, but some care should be taken when choosing the transformer(s): http

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread Willi Reppel
gl SM6OMH Willi - Original Message - From: Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike King - KM0T [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'FlexRadio Mailing List' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi Mike, Thanks

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
] Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:22:16 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi Gerald, I don't think Jon's problem is one of TX Image Rejection. We nulled it down at least 70 dB using the procedure

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread Larry Loen
Willi Reppel wrote: Jeff, One possible cure to avoid said jiggling and twisting of the plugs is to drill larger holes into the backplate of the SDR1000 enclosure. The relatively small holes may prevent certain types of male plugs to reach the bottom of the female connectors. Gold-plated plugs

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread Willi Reppel
PROTECTED] Cc: Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike King - KM0T [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'FlexRadio Mailing List' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Willi Reppel wrote: Jeff, One possible cure to avoid said jiggling

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Naruta
Rather than enlarge the hole, I used a knife to shave the plastic on the plug end. Mike - AA8K Willi Reppel wrote: Larry, To the best of my knowledge, I cannot recall an offi-cial warning from Flex.Radio against the use of gold-plated plugs. In contrary, these were praised many times

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-26 Thread Willi Reppel
Mike, Good suggestion, but less useful for those who use gold-plated plugs in solid brass. Willi - Original Message - From: Mike Naruta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'FlexRadio Mailing List' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor

[Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread K6JEK
Here is an update on the poor sideband suppression from my SDR-1000. It is putting significant energy out on the wrong sideband, visible in the panadapter of a nearby fellow Flexer and audible by not so nearby hams listening on the opposite sideband. Yesterday I took the radio over to Jeff,

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Gerald Capodieci
There is a procedure for Transmit Image Rejection management on the bottom of page 90 of the manual. It worked for me but I'm using a Delta 44. The section was rewritten by Eric but not published yet. Just use another trusted receiver, tune it to the same frequency but the apposite side band

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Jeff Anderson
Hi Gerald, I don't think Jon's problem is one of TX Image Rejection. We nulled it down at least 70 dB using the procedure in the manual. But we're still seeing grunge on the opposite sideband. If I listen to that sideband on another receiver, it doesn't sound like a clear voice (as I would

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Wachsmann
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:32 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression One more thing. The output from the Firebox measures about 1.98V during the audio TEST, nothing like

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Mike King - KM0T
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi Gerald, I don't think Jon's problem is one of TX Image Rejection. We nulled it down at least 70 dB using the procedure in the manual. But we're still seeing grunge on the opposite sideband

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Jeff Anderson
-radio.biz Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi Gerald, I don't think Jon's problem is one of TX Image Rejection. We nulled it down at least 70 dB using the procedure in the manual. But we're still seeing grunge on the opposite

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Cecil Bayona
Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi guys, this may or may not be a solution, and I know it has been beaten to death...but I too experienced this same thing over the weekend while I was helping a fellow with his SDR-1000. He brought his system over and we

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Ross Stenberg
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike King - KM0T Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:10 PM To: 'FlexRadio Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi guys, this may or may not be a solution, and I know it has been beaten to death...but I too experienced this same thing over

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-25 Thread Mel Whitten
: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Hi guys, this may or may not be a solution, and I know it has been beaten to death...but I too experienced this same thing over the weekend while I was helping a fellow with his SDR-1000. He brought his system over and we got it all set up. Going

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-24 Thread Jimmy Jones
I've had this problem several times and the issue has always been cable connection seating or cables in the wrong jack on the firebox. Looking from front to back (on the Firebox) my cable connectors or (left to right) On the top - Grey,Skip/NC,Grey and on the bottom - Red, Skip/NC, Red I've

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-24 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
Soon as my warranty runs out, I plan to hard wire mine. On 9/24/06, Jimmy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had this problem several times and the issue has always been cable connection seating or cables in the wrong jack on the firebox. Looking from front to back (on the Firebox) my cable

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-24 Thread Tim Ellison
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A.R.S. - W5AMI Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:46 AM To: Jimmy Jones Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression Soon as my warranty runs out, I plan to hard wire mine. On 9/24/06, Jimmy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-24 Thread K6JEK
Cables or operator error was my guess. I've checked and rechecked the cables. I've also swapped cables to no avail. I'll do all of this again today. Thanks, Jon On Sep 24, 2006, at 6:22 AM, Jimmy Jones wrote: I've had this problem several times and the issue has always been cable

Re: [Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-24 Thread Jimmy Jones
One more thing. The output from the Firebox measures about 1.98V during the audio TEST, nothing like the 6.93 hardwired into the set-up form. I can remember doing this measurement and getting nearly the same results as you have. I can't remember what the answer was but I think you are ok there.

[Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-23 Thread K6JEK
I'm getting poor opposite sideband suppression.Another Flex owner, Jeff, K6JCA, took a snapshot of my spectrum off the air and there is a significant hump on the opposite sideband. Other listeners have heard the opposite sideband. It's not DSB. It's maybe 30 dB down. The TX image