Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread Jim Lux
At 05:53 PM 9/6/2005, ecellison wrote: Jim I knew i could bait you! (smile). I am sort of ‘gobbled up’ by this precision thing! I do have my GPS receiver and am ready for the 1 part to the -13 (give or take a couple of exponents!). Can we take the 200 mhz standard out of the SDR 1000 as is?

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread Jim Lux
At 07:12 PM 9/6/2005, Tom Clark, W3IWI wrote: Eric wrote: Tom et al… Youse guys are going to get Jim Lux into this again! (REALLY do love your comments Jim). This is probably a do-able topic for early next year. Hey! Why not long term aging, and Loran. Not kidding. Anything is possible in

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tim Ellison wrote: Reflock II info: http://gref.cfn.ist.utl.pt/cupido/reflock.html Cost is going to be near $1000 http://www.tapr.org/products.php You caught us... the Reflock II is going to fund the next TAPR board retreat in the Bahamas. :-) Actually, the prices are placeholders

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread Jim Lux
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:08 AM To: Jim Lux Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit All -- Just FYI, TAPR is working not only on the Reflock II, which can phase

[Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread Ray J
What about the pll locking systems from velalq ? Is this any use? http://ve1alq.com/clpd_pll/clpd_pll.htm W9RAY

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-07 Thread Ignacio Cembreros
Jim Lux escribió: No.. you really don't want an oscillator that can be adjusted... What you want is a very finely programmable divider that gets adjusted so that it tracks the oscillator's frequency. For instance, if you have a DDS that puts out 10 MHz from a 200 MHz output, the notional

[Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Tim Ellison
Title: Ext. Reference clock kit I was wondering if anyone is using a GPS to generate the 10 or 20 MHz frequency reference used with the external reference clock kit? If so, how did you do it? I have a GPS receiver (hockey puck, NEMA output) that I'd like to use for this if it is possible.

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Tom Clark, W3IWI
richard allen wrote: Message (snip) It provides accuracy of better that 1 part in 10**(-10) or 1 Hz at 10 GHz. Its 10 MHz output will drive the little conversion kit for the sdr1k available from FlexRadio. One word of caution. When 10 MHz is fed into the same socket as the present

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread ecellison
, September 06, 2005 7:46 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit richard allen wrote: (snip) It provides accuracy of better that 1 part in 10**(-10) or 1 Hz at 10 GHz. Its 10 MHz output will drive the little conversion kit for the sdr1k available from

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Lux
are NOT going for 10 mhz multiplied, but 1 cycle or so at 200 mhz! Eric2 – AA4SW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Clark, W3IWI Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:46 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit richard allen wrote

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread ecellison
PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit I would just echo Tom's comments... you're much better off using the GPS to discipline a 200 MHz source. An even easier way is to put your (quiet) 200 MHz oscillator in a separate box (pref ovenized

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Lyle Johnson
Philosophically, if you can avoid needing to steer your oscillator, that has two advantages: 1) The tuning pin doesn't provide an additional noise-frequency change path 2) The crystal can be higher Q, because it doesn't need to be adjustable. Sounds like an application for the Huff'n'Puff

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread ecellison
: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit Philosophically, if you can avoid needing to steer your oscillator, that has two advantages: 1) The tuning pin doesn't provide an additional noise-frequency change path 2) The crystal can be higher Q, because it doesn't need to be adjustable. Sounds like

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Lyle Johnson
Been out of it for a while. Maybe I'm being duped, but what the heck I s a Huff'n'Puff? !!! It is a means of gently stabilizing an oscillator. It requires the oscillator to be reasonably stable already. There are several examples of this sort of circuit, pioneered by PA0KSB back in the early

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread ecellison
Lyle Tnanks ... Readin Eric2 -Original Message- From: Lyle Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:11 PM To: ecellison Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit Been out of it for a while. Maybe I'm being duped

Re: [Flexradio] Ext. Reference clock kit

2005-09-06 Thread Tom Clark, W3IWI
Eric wrote: Message Tom et al Youse guys are going to get Jim Lux into this again! (REALLY do love your comments Jim). This is probably a do-able topic for early next year. Hey! Why not long term aging, and Loran. Not kidding. Anything is possible in software with a