Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: I just committed a new stall horn sample (finally) but I have a question. Is it supposed to be a continuous tone or is it cyclical? It is a continuous tone, for as long as the angle of attack is too high. There is no warble or anything else exciting

RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Ki
fgfs --aircraft=x15 altitude=6 --mach=2 This option worked well (start in altitude and on speed is OK) You need to start the engine. Is there a startup manual out there? I really didn't find a manual how to start C172 machine. Its magnetos won't work... Richard

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim

2001-11-28 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S. Berndt writes: Next there is probably some bug in RESET menu option function, FG crashes always then. This does not yet work with JSBSim. But it used too :-) Cheers Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: Ah.. Thats good. Then I can make a *short* sample. BTW... this is kind of replying to myself but According to the doco for SL (probably out of date but): --- class slSample: Allows you to read sound samples from disk in a range of standard formats, and to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Atlas source requires modification in the Makefilewrt sg libraries.

2001-11-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ross Golder writes: On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 17:20, Alex Perry wrote: Well, I always do an automake and autoconf before the configure, so maybe the versions of the Makefile.in that are provided in the cvs tree are old ? Surely they should be removed from the CVS tree! Yes, surely, but

RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
This does not yet work with JSBSim. But it used too :-) When? I've tried it over the years many times and never had it work for me. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim

2001-11-28 Thread D Luff
Richard Kis writes: I really didn't find a manual how to start C172 machine. Its magnetos won't work... You need a middle mouse button to turn the starter on :-( The attached keyboard.xml uses the 's' key to turn the starter (after using the left mouse button to move the magnetos to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread John Check
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 4:54 am, you wrote: John Check wrote: - In the constructor for FGSoundMgr: FGSoundMgr::FGSoundMgr() { audio_sched = new slScheduler( 8000 ); .. } Which, if I understand it right, is setting the playback rate to 8Khz. So even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread John Check
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 7:48 am, you wrote: Alex Perry writes: I just committed a new stall horn sample (finally) but I have a question. Is it supposed to be a continuous tone or is it cyclical? It is a continuous tone, for as long as the angle of attack is too

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread John Check
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 10:28 am, you wrote: John Check writes: Ah.. Thats good. Then I can make a *short* sample. BTW... this is kind of replying to myself but According to the doco for SL (probably out of date but): --- class slSample: Allows you to read sound

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Alex Perry wrote: Many Cessnas have a small metal tab that sticks out of the front of the wing, at the stagnant airflow point for the desired angle of attack. Do you have to turn it off manually when you're sitting on the tarmac or taxiing slowly? It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread David Megginson
John Check writes: Ah, hence the slow attack. Can plib put an attack envelope when the sound starts to play? We've talked about reporting stall as a double rather than a bool -- i.e. there'd be a transition zone where the stall is between 0 and 100%. When JSBSim supports that, we can rig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: On the ground, gravity holds it down (open), so the horn is off. Now there's a good practical joke -- stick the horn tab on with a bit of duct tape. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Andy Ross writes: On the ground, gravity holds it down (open), so the horn is off. Now there's a good practical joke -- stick the horn tab on with a bit of duct tape. As long as they remember their pilot training and don't hurt themselves ... Curt. -- Curtis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread Ross Golder
OK, blonde moment. -- Ross On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 21:09, Ross Golder wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 17:51, Ross Golder wrote: I'm just making sure the Makefile.linux system works, then I'll get back onto the GNU auto* stuff, as long as everyone's happy that it'll be wanted. OK.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread Tony Peden
--- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Check writes: Ah, hence the slow attack. Can plib put an attack envelope when the sound starts to play? We've talked about reporting stall as a double rather than a bool -- i.e. there'd be a transition zone where the stall is

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
contributions are just being ignored (my improved cp2fg script still hasn't made it into CVS yet!!!). Yes, it has. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
OK. Started with a fresh JSBSim checkout. The Makefile.linux is pretty out-of-date, and basically, broken. The attached patch gets things moving a bit further, but basically, I don't think this system is anywhere near as flexible as automake, so I'll be concentrating on that from now on.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread Ross Golder
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 21:20, BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM) wrote: contributions are just being ignored (my improved cp2fg script still hasn't made it into CVS yet!!!). Yes, it has. Sorry, you're right, it has. My bad. Thanks for committing the Makefile.linux, and here's a fresh

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
Also, automake is getting confused between JSBSim.cpp (which contains main()), and JSBSim.cxx (the FDM interface). At link time, it creates the JSBSim.o, then overwrites it when it compiles the next one. Could one or other of these files be renamed for clarity? No chance. First (but not the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: Apparently you missed my post, I made that change several weeks ago. The JSBSim Aircraft::GetStallWarn still returns a bool, and JSBSim.cxx still treats the stall as a boolean property in some places. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ross Golder writes: OK, that certainly makes things easier. Here's an updated top-level Makefile.am. BTW, you can rename without losing history. You just have to move the RCS file in the CVS repository. coughSourceForge/cough And if theres no need to even *look* at anything with a .cxx

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
In the past, we've talked about removing JSBSim.cxx from the JSBSim distro completely, especially since it cannot be compiled there (much less tested). Yep. Right now we are in sort of a Mexican standoff situation. JSBSim.cxx exists only to support JSBSim. However, JSBSim.cxx is not compiled

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Middle mouse button / win32

2001-11-28 Thread Christian Mayer
Richard KiĀ¹ wrote: Hi, Windows drivers are not familiar with the middle mouse button unfortunately. I don't know what driver you are using, but it works perfectly for my old Logitech Pilot (PS/2) and IntelliOptical (USB; both at the same time connected and working). And it doesn't make

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread John Wojnaroski
This file is the interface between flightgear and JSBSim so it is used only when compiling flightgear and JSBSim together. It can be directly affected changes in JSBsim and directly affected by changes in FlightGear so which side should own the official master copy has been lightly

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
Sorry :-) JSBSim.cxx is the interface (a.k.a. The Bus) that acts as the conduit for data trasnfer between JSBSim and FlightGear. It is not used in teh standalone version of JSBSim. JSBSim.cpp is the driver program that instantiates and runs JSBSim standalone. It is not used with FlightGear. Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread John Wojnaroski
Sorry :-) No problem, it was kind of a weird evening from the start.. plus had a disc failure the day before and I don't think my backup was fully in sync with a few of the files I could retrieve. Looking back through all the source in .cpp and .cxx the diff is clearer with the new

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread Jon S. Berndt
So then, to migrate changes in JSBSim.cpp to JSBSim.cxx is a manual process?? This is not something one would normally do. JSBSim.cpp is sort of a driver program that initializes an instance of FGFDMExec and then reads a script or an initialization file and just runs (calls a FGFDMExec::Run()

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: JSBSim cp2fg script and Makefile

2001-11-28 Thread Tony Peden
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 04:45 pm, you wrote: So then, to migrate changes in JSBSim.cpp to JSBSim.cxx is a manual process?? This is not something one would normally do. JSBSim.cpp is sort of a driver program that initializes an instance of FGFDMExec and then reads a script or an

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Stall horn question

2001-11-28 Thread donald . baker
It isn't gravity. It is simply that only at high angle of attack conditions is there enough air to shove it upward. On another note, on the other Cessnas which have a stall horn. As the stagnation point moves upward past the horn, the horn is subjected to a low pressure area. You don't blow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding airport buildings and runways to fgfs

2001-11-28 Thread Jeff
In regards to the fgfs.log: I also have just started to learn how to place static 3d objects in FlightGear and have the same kind of problem (I think). After following the instruction in FAQ 6.5 I get the fgfs.log file but no where in this file is the reference to loading tile. Jeff

[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: GLAF 1.0 Released

2001-11-28 Thread Erik Hofman
I actually don't know if this is usable for FlightGear but it has some nice features. Erik GLAF 1.0 -- OpenGL Advanced Functionality - The first version of GLAF, a small library for accessing OpenGL advanced functionality in a compatible way from

[Flightgear-devel] Training requirements for a sim

2001-11-28 Thread Alex Perry
Mentor, the monthly magazine of the National Association of Flight Instructors, recently ran an article that describes how a PCATD might be used to conduct 10 hours of basic instrument training. It's interesting to note what aspects can, and cannot, currently be performed using

[Flightgear-devel] Competition - SGI binary only [slightly OT]

2001-11-28 Thread Alex Perry
The SGI-based developers of FlightGear might be interested in this ... If we submit a team entry, do we all get free passes to the conference ? 8-) Subject: SGI Developer Edge - FLASH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D E V E L O P E RE D G E