The new telnet server has really become nice. It's great to be able
to connect more than just once. :-)
But I don't like the new commands:
view set n display view 'n'
view get return current view index
view current return current view index
Why bloat the interface
Jim Wilson wrote:
Hope I'm not being a pest but it's been a while since the last sound patch.
The gear-lock sound doesn't work on the c310. Nor do the engine[0] sounds.
And the cranking is weird (very short?) on everything. I tried playing around
with the xml some but didn't get any
On Thu 16. May 2002 00:51, you wrote:
..does anyone use metric flight instruments anymore?
The only ones I know of, were the WWII Luftwaffe and the
Warsaw Pact Air Forces and hang-arounds, possibly also
the Communist Chinese AF. AFAIK, none of these were strictly
SI metric.
All Instruments
I'm sure that there exist
SI aircraft panels somewhere, but I have not yet seen photos of any in
general aviation.
look here http://www.musicabona.com/martin/pic/tocna11.jpg
Madr
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C. Hotchkiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
David,
The only place that I know of that manufactures aircraft (or at least did
routinely) with SI based instrumentation was the old Soviet Union. Some of
their aircraft either sold to customers, or operating outside the SU were
involved in at least
Ralph Jones writes:
It would, indeed, be nice to have a vertical velocity model for simulating
soaring flight. I'm still trying to run down stability derivatives for my
sailplane!
It will be easy to allow you to specify up- or down-drafts for
specific areas; it will be much harder to
C. Hotchkiss writes:
The only place that I know of that manufactures aircraft (or at
least did routinely) with SI based instrumentation was the old
Soviet Union. Some of their aircraft either sold to customers, or
operating outside the SU were involved in at least two mid air
Cameron Moore writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A J) [2002.05.16 07:51]:
is there any documentation for FGFS source code?
if there exist any i will be glad to send me its
address.
FlightGear does not use a source documentation system (such as doxygen
or DOC++). What documentation we have
Cameron Moore writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]:
Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main
In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main
Modified Files:
options.cxx
Log Message:
Bernie Bright:
To make MSVC happy it appears we
Erik Hofman writes:
Jim Wilson wrote:
Hope I'm not being a pest but it's been a while since the last sound patch.
The gear-lock sound doesn't work on the c310. Nor do the engine[0] sounds.
And the cranking is weird (very short?) on everything. I tried playing around
with the xml some
Hello,
a while ago I asked about a plotting tool of which I had seen on this
mailing list that it would be integrated into FlightGear. I saw in the
latest news messages that the logging was updated in version 0.7.10 of FG
but I can't find anything that looks like a plotting tool.
If the tool has
So David Megginson says:
[...]
ditto for the Gimli Glider, the Air Canada 767 that ran out of
fuel at altitude and was brought down safely on a drag strip (former
runway) in Gimli, Manitoba:
http://www.frontier.net/~wadenelson/successstories/gimli.html
Air Canada had just switched to
Quint,
Here's an interesting option. Recently, I've been chatting with the
author of the KFlog project (http://www.kflog.org/)
I think it would be really useful and cool if we could get FlightGear
interacting with KFlog.
Regards,
Curt.
Quint Mouthaan writes:
Hello,
a while ago I asked
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thursday 16 May 2002 16:25:
After reading this story I can't help but note another advantage of SI:
easy-to-remember figures. 0 degrees celsius is where water freezes, 100
degrees is where water boils, and a liter of water weighs one kilogram. *)
[...]
*) I know, its
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.05.17 08:43]:
Cameron Moore writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]:
Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main
In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main
Modified Files:
options.cxx
Log
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 16 May 2002 16:35:
... and the SI unit for temperature is Kelvin, no? :-
OK, OK. Degree Celsius is a so-called Derived SI Unit. :-)
m.
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First, let me point out the new telnet server is *very* nice. Bernie
has rewritten it based on the plib net libs. It can handle multiple
concurrent connections. This is a big improvement!
Along with this, Bernie has also provided a demo python script that
shows how you can use the telnet
Melchior FRANZ writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thursday 16 May 2002 16:25:
After reading this story I can't help but note another advantage of SI:
easy-to-remember figures. 0 degrees celsius is where water freezes, 100
degrees is where water boils, and a liter of water weighs one kilogram.
Cameron Moore writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.05.17 08:43]:
Cameron Moore writes:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]:
Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main
In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main
Modified Files:
On Thu, 16 May 2002 09:48:06 -0500 (CDT)
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... and the SI unit for temperature is Kelvin, no?
:-
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly
they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
One of the worst things about metric,
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Originally this was changed to something like:
cout usage:
Nicely formatted text
that will look
exactly like it is entered
here when
it is displayed by the program.
This is very 'pretty' to be able
to do. endl;
* Curtis L. Olson -- Thursday 16 May 2002 16:48:
Melchior FRANZ writes:
... and the SI unit for temperature is Kelvin, no? :-
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly they wouldn't
overload unit names, right? :-)
There's no contradiction, as far as I see: degree comes
Jon S Berndt wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2002 09:48:06 -0500 (CDT)
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... and the SI unit for temperature is Kelvin, no?
:-
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly
they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
One of the
Cameron Moore wrote:
Then I'd like to request that we revert the changes to
options.cxx:fgUsage(). Is this:
cout say endl
what?! endl;
worse than this?:
cout say\n\
what?!\n;
Far be it from me to argue with Bernie about anything C++, but I prefer
to use the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This can be done portably using the standard string concatenation feature of
the language. The above would look like the following and likely work with
any reasonably modern compiler (this string concatenation feature did not
exist in KR C but did beginning with
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly
they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
I recall reading an article several years ago in a flying mag (can't
remember exactly where or when)
on someone's proposal to change the number of degrees on the compass from
360 to
John Wojnaroski writes:
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly
they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
I recall reading an article several years ago in a flying mag (can't
remember exactly where or when)
on someone's proposal to change the number of
John Wojnaroski wrote:
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly
they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
I recall reading an article several years ago in a flying mag (can't
remember exactly where or when)
on someone's proposal to change the number of
Christian Mayer wrote:
Note: You 2nd version does *not* use the string concatenation.
The 2nd version boils down to the very C++ dependant
operator(operator(operator(cout, usage),endl),...);
Yes, it does. What point are you trying to make by saying very C++ dependant?
Nearly all of
John Wojnaroski wrote:
I recall reading an article several years ago in a flying mag (can't
remember exactly where or when)
on someone's proposal to change the number of degrees on the compass from
360 to 400.
...
Have you noticed Deg/Rad/Grad or DRG on every scientific calculator? Those
Julian Foad wrote:
Christian Mayer wrote:
Note: You 2nd version does *not* use the string concatenation.
The 2nd version boils down to the very C++ dependant
operator(operator(operator(cout, usage),endl),...);
Yes, it does. What point are you trying to make by saying very C++
Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with:
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500
which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC, which is
about a day into the future. (The current time now is Thu 16 May 2002 16:38 UTC.)
- Julian
Christian said:
(Note: degrees are still valid as they are *internationally* well known.
slugs aren't)
Yes they are ... each country's definition depends on local climate and fauna,
ranging from one gram, through one ounce to as high as one pound. I don't
know of a slug being one kilogram but
Alex Perry wrote:
Christian said:
(Note: degrees are still valid as they are *internationally* well known.
slugs aren't)
Yes they are ... each country's definition depends on local climate and fauna,
ranging from one gram, through one ounce to as high as one pound. I don't
know of a
My fault partially, sorry.
a while ago I asked about a plotting tool of which I had seen on this
mailing list that it would be integrated into FlightGear. I saw in the
latest news messages that the logging was updated in version 0.7.10 of FG
but I can't find anything that looks like a
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly they
wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-)
Oooh, here's a good one!
There *are* no unit names for angles. Angles are unitless numbers.
So to be strict, the SI unit for heading must be the radian. :)
FWIW,
Christian Mayer wrote:
I wanted to point out the very big (internal) differnce of the ANSI C
style
string1 string2
THat ends up as string1string2 in a normal array of char
vs.
The C++ way:
cout string1 string2
wich uses the operator() method.
Both are valid and have
On Thu, 16 May 2002 18:46:16 +0200
Christian Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian said:
(Note: degrees are still valid as they are
*internationally* well known.
slugs aren't)
Alex responded:
Yes they are ... each country's definition depends on
local climate and fauna,
ranging
Alex Perry wrote:
Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with:
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500
which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC,
which is about a day into the future.
Don;t worry about it; Cameron just likes to have his
On Thu, 16 May 2002 09:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually storing the data to file is already supported in
FGFS, I believe.
FWIW, JSBSim logs its FDM data in a configurable manner.
See the bottom of the X-15 config file, for isntance, as
well as FGOutput.c|h.
* Julian Foad -- Thursday 16 May 2002 18:27:
Have you noticed Deg/Rad/Grad or DRG on every scientific calculator?
Those are Grads. I've heard that the military use them ... but I haven't
seen any evidence of it.
Infantery and artillery use 0-6400 mil (called Strich over here), NBC also
uses
Christian Mayer wrote:
(Note: degrees are still valid as they are *internationally* well
known. slugs aren't)
Actually, there's a very good reason why we use a 360 degree circle.
This number has loads of small integer divisors. What's the inner
angle between the walls of a 4-sided room? 90
So in the end, I'm not sure which is better. They each have their
pluses ...
Lets move it over to an XML file ...
Erik
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David Megginson wrote:
Ralph Jones writes:
It would, indeed, be nice to have a vertical velocity model for simulating
soaring flight. I'm still trying to run down stability derivatives for my
sailplane!
It will be easy to allow you to specify up- or down-drafts for
specific areas; it
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Here's an interesting option. Recently, I've been chatting with the
author of the KFlog project (http://www.kflog.org/)
What an unfortunate name. Am I the only one who read that and thought
Hm... I wouldn't really have though KDE needed a flogging application
on the
David Megginson wrote:
C. Hotchkiss writes:
The only place... Maybe
somebody can recall these instances with better accuracy. Either
way, history condemned us to English units.
Yes, ditto for the Gimli Glider, the Air Canada 767 that ran out of
fuel at altitude and was brought
Alex Perry writes:
Actually storing the data to file is already supported in FGFS, I believe.
Yes, it is. See docs-mini/README.logging in the FlightGear source
distribution.
All the best,
David
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Alex Perry writes:
Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with:
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500
which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC,
which is about a day into the future.
Don;t worry about it; Cameron just likes to have his
C. Hotchkiss writes:
Ah, yes. I recall that now. A very interesting incident. Amusing that a
low tech solution like dip sticks is still being used. Also instructive to
efforts to convert the aircraft industry over to SI. It should be done,
but with great care.
Yes, I agree, on both
Andy Ross wrote:
Christian Mayer wrote:
(Note: degrees are still valid as they are *internationally* well
known. slugs aren't)
Actually, there's a very good reason why we use a 360 degree circle.
This number has loads of small integer divisors. ...In the days before
calculators, this
C. Hotchkiss writes:
IIRC, 360 degrees is Babylonian in origin. For some reason
multiples of 12 and the number 360 was very important to them.
I read that it's how they counted on their fingers. Using your thumb,
touch the top third (near the tip) of each finger for 1-4, the middle
third
David Megginson wrote:
Yech. (By the way, in Ontario [at least] we abbreviate kilometers
per hour to clicks, i.e. You won't average better than 70 or 80
clicks with all the construction. I wonder if that will ever become
standard usage anywhere else.)
I'm sure I've heard about that
David Megginson wrote:
C. Hotchkiss writes:
IIRC, 360 degrees is Babylonian in origin. For some reason
multiples of 12 and the number 360 was very important to them.
I read that it's how they counted on their fingers. Using your thumb,
touch the top third (near the tip) of each
I read that it's how they counted on their fingers. Using your thumb,
touch the top third (near the tip) of each finger for 1-4, the middle
third (between the two knuckles) of each finger for 5-8, and the
bottom third for 9-12. I'm not sure how they combined the second hand
with that, but
On Thu, 16 May 2002 18:17:00 +0100,
Julian Foad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Arnt, your mail clock seems to be two hours in the past. Your message
which I think you wrote just a few minutes ago says Date: Thu, 16 May
2002 17:12:41 +0200 but the time now is about
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Foad) [2002.05.17 11:43]:
Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with:
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500
which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC, which is
about a day into the future. (The current time now is Thu
MSVC does not like the size of the string constant in options.cxx
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1143) : error C2026: string too big,
trailing characters truncated
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1181) : error C2026: string too big,
trailing characters truncated
Jonathan Polley writes:
MSVC does not like the size of the string constant in options.cxx
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1143) : error C2026: string too big,
trailing characters truncated
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1181) : error C2026: string too big,
trailing characters
I fixed the problem by breaking the option strings into logical chunks. I.
e., Each major section gets its own string and print statement. While
this probably is not a good long term solution, it did get me up and
running.
Jonathan Polley
On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 09:56 PM, Curtis L.
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Jonathan Polley writes:
MSVC does not like the size of the string constant in options.cxx
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1143) : error C2026: string too big,
trailing characters truncated
C:\FlightGear\src\Main\options.cxx(1181) : error C2026: string too
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